Re: [herbert@gondor.apana.org.au: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]

2002-10-25 Thread Herbert Xu
On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 11:11:42PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Herbert Xu writes ("Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Bug#161931: > kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]"): > ... > > Who is supposed to make these decisions about how many people are > > interested? Should I ask you every time th

Re: [herbert@gondor.apana.org.au: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]

2002-10-25 Thread Ian Jackson
Herbert Xu writes ("Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]"): ... > Who is supposed to make these decisions about how many people are > interested? Should I ask you every time this comes up? If you end up getting into a serious enough dispute about

Re: [herbert@gondor.apana.org.au: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]

2002-10-25 Thread Herbert Xu
On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 07:49:56PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > So let me see if I can summarise what the pros and cons are, that have > been mentioned so far: > > Pro: > > * Some laptop users and certain others who wish to use the console >in better video modes have an easier life, as they c

Re: [herbert@gondor.apana.org.au: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]

2002-10-25 Thread Raul Miller
> >>">>" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> * Some laptop users and certain others who wish to use the console > >>in better video modes have an easier life, as they can do so with > >>the stock Debian kernel. How many people would benefit seems to be > >>disputed, bu

Re: [herbert@gondor.apana.org.au: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]

2002-10-25 Thread Ian Jackson
Manoj Srivastava writes ("Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]"): > I am not sure the latter follows. Certainly, there is a (small) > vocal set of users, but popularity is still in question. Well, certainly it's not decisive, but we're un

Re: [herbert@gondor.apana.org.au: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]

2002-10-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>">>" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> So let me see if I can summarise what the pros and cons are, that have >> been mentioned so far: >> Pro: >> * Some laptop users and certain others who wish to use the console >>in better video modes have an easier life, as they can d

Re: [herbert@gondor.apana.org.au: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]

2002-10-25 Thread Ian Jackson
So let me see if I can summarise what the pros and cons are, that have been mentioned so far: Pro: * Some laptop users and certain others who wish to use the console in better video modes have an easier life, as they can do so with the stock Debian kernel. How many people would benefit se

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2002-10-25 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > reassign 104101 tech-ctte Bug#104101: VESA fb Bug#123987: Vesa and Framebuffer Bug#134220: kernel-image-2.4.17-k7: framebuffer by default disabled Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console Bug reassigned from package `kernel' to `tech-

Re: [herbert@gondor.apana.org.au: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]

2002-10-25 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Herbert Xu [Fri, Oct 25 2002, 10:00:20PM]: > > > Firstly I argue that VESA FB is only needed by a very small proportion > > > of our i386 users. This stems from the fact that the great majority of > > > > I strongly object to this attitude. Shall we start argumenting for > > What att

Re: [herbert@gondor.apana.org.au: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]

2002-10-25 Thread Herbert Xu
On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 01:31:24PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > > Firstly I argue that VESA FB is only needed by a very small proportion > > of our i386 users. This stems from the fact that the great majority of > > I strongly object to this attitude. Shall we start argumenting for What attitu

Re: [herbert@gondor.apana.org.au: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]

2002-10-25 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Herbert Xu [Fri, Oct 25 2002, 06:50:08PM]: > This is indeed a serious bug, and it has been fixed in 2.4.19-3 where > the kernel will ignore the vga setting if VESA is not compiled in. > > So the remaining issue is whether we should compile VESA support in. > My position is no and let

Re: [herbert@gondor.apana.org.au: Re: Bug#161931: kernel-image-2.4.19-k7: VESA driver for console]

2002-10-25 Thread Herbert Xu
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 05:30:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Good. Now if we hear from Herbert on this issue, perhaps we > can proceed. Thank you for bringing this to my attention, I was not aware that this matter is being discussed here. Firstly, let me answer this point. > E