Re: Resigning from the TC

2014-12-04 Thread Anthony Towns
On 5 December 2014 at 03:15, Colin Watson wrote: > I confess to having lost track of what effect my resignation would have > on things like the TC term limit GR, especially given Ian's and Russ's > resignations. ​Only effect I can see is that if Lucas's 2-R proposal is the one that's chosen, th

Bug#766708: counterfeiting the summary of the bootstrap sprint

2014-12-04 Thread YunQiang Su
On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 20:41:57 +0100 Matthias Klose wrote: > So in the last email Wookey enumerates a lot of things what he did during the > last months. Maybe he should have mentioned his ballerina lessons used for > his > performances during the DebConf talks too. However ever all of these have

Bug#762194: Automatic switch to systemd on wheezy->jessie upgrades (thoughts)

2014-12-04 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Christian Seiler > Am 2014-12-04 18:21, schrieb Adam Borowski: > > > * some configurations of encrypted lvm > > Could you point me to a bug report on this? I'd like to help out with > that. I have systemd running on my home computer with an encrypted > LVM, and it does work, so what you are r

Bug#766708: counterfeiting the summary of the bootstrap sprint

2014-12-04 Thread Wookey
+++ Matthias Klose [2014-12-04 20:41 +0100]: > So in the last email Wookey enumerates a lot of things what he did > during the last months. Maybe he should have mentioned his > ballerina lessons used for his performances during the DebConf talks > too. However ever all of these have in common, th

Re: Next CTTE Meeting date -d 'Thu Dec 4 18:00:00 UTC 2014'

2014-12-04 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, Don Armstrong wrote: > > The next CTTE Meeting is at date -d 'Thu Dec 4 18:00:00 UTC 2014' in > > #debian-ctte on irc.debian.org. > > Just a reminder that our next meeting is in under 12 hours in > #debian-ctte on irc.debian.org. ==

Bug#766708: counterfeiting the summary of the bootstrap sprint

2014-12-04 Thread Matthias Klose
So in the last email Wookey enumerates a lot of things what he did during the last months. Maybe he should have mentioned his ballerina lessons used for his performances during the DebConf talks too. However ever all of these have in common, that this has nothing to do at all with the work he

Bug#762194: Automatic switch to systemd on wheezy->jessie upgrades (thoughts)

2014-12-04 Thread Christian Seiler
Sorry, stupid webmail, sent my email to early... and only to the mailing list, not the bugtracker... :( To make sure it's recorded in the bug, and I also added something to the end: Am 2014-12-04 19:31, schrieb Christian Seiler: Am 2014-12-04 18:21, schrieb Adam Borowski: On Thu, Dec 04, 2014

Re: Bug#762194: Automatic switch to systemd on wheezy->jessie upgrades (thoughts)

2014-12-04 Thread Christian Seiler
Am 2014-12-04 18:21, schrieb Adam Borowski: On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 05:25:26PM +0100, Christian Seiler wrote: - Switchig depends order of init [1] (sysvinit-core before systemd-sysv) -> won't work, because init is Essential, but systemd-sysv isn't, so this change would default

Bug#766708: status of cross gcc/jessie?

2014-12-04 Thread Helmut Grohne
I am wondering what the status of this bug is. It seems to me that currently there are no viable option to choose from, because getting the changes resulting from a decision into jessie seems to run counter the freeze policy. Either a decision is made and implemented within less than half a day or

Bug#762194: Automatic switch to systemd on wheezy->jessie upgrades (thoughts)

2014-12-04 Thread Sam Hartman
Thanks. I found this post of your to be really thought-provoking and useful and an example of the sort of discourse we should strive to when discussing these issues. I think the discussion of switching default inits in the future is something to particularly consider. --Sam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Bug#762194: Automatic switch to systemd on wheezy->jessie upgrades (thoughts)

2014-12-04 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 05:25:26PM +0100, Christian Seiler wrote: > - Switchig depends order of init [1] >(sysvinit-core before systemd-sysv) > > -> won't work, because init is Essential, but systemd-sysv isn't, >so this change would default the init system to sysvinit for >

Bug#766708: experience report on the default method

2014-12-04 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:35:50AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > cross builds supporting multiarch exists and works. claiming otherwise is just > populistic and/or marketing. This claim and its counterclaim has been made repeatedly throughout the discussion. It is long overdue to fill it with fac

Re: Resigning from the TC

2014-12-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 11:28:04AM -0700, Bdale Garbee wrote: > Colin Watson writes: > > I hereby declare my intent to resign from the Debian Technical > > Committee. The Constitution doesn't really have a clear procedure for > > handling resignations here; I expect the TC will want to appoint a

Bug#762194: Automatic switch to systemd on wheezy->jessie upgrades (thoughts)

2014-12-04 Thread Christian Seiler
Dear ctte, after having watched this discussion from the sidelines a bit, I'd like to offer a few thoughts on this topic. First of all, as for the technical issue of how to NOT cause the init system to be switched when updating from wheezy to jessie: all proposed solution I've seen in this threa

Bug#762194: Summary:Re: Bug#762194: Proposal for upgrades to jessie

2014-12-04 Thread Svante Signell
On Fri, 2014-11-28 at 12:56 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: > Hello, > In summary: > a) Upgrades should _not_ change init: whatever is installed should be > kept. > b) New installs should get systemd-sysv as default init with a debconf > message about alternative init systems. > > More detailed: > 1