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Bug#862051: Refer #862051 to ctte
How about this: 1. The CTTE decision in from 2012-07-12 in bug #614907 is repealed. 2. The nodejs package shall be free to provide /usr/bin/node. Eventually, packages which use node.js will use /usr/bin/node, and the nodejs-legacy package will become obsolete, and be removed. 3. All of this should be managed according to Debian's usual backwards-compatibility arrangements, and without needlessly breaking anything. 4. /usr/bin/nodejs should continue to exist indefinitely. Ian.
Re: Bug#862051: Refer #862051 to ctte
Ian Jackson writes:
> Anthony DeRobertis writes ("Re: Bug#862051: Refer #862051 to ctte"):
>> On 07/14/2017 12:57 PM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
>> > Fair point.
>> >
>> >3. Once a new nodejs package providing /usr/bin/node is in the
>> > archive, other packages in the archive are free to depend on the
>> > nodejs package and use /usr/bin/node .
>>
>> That should probably be a versioned Depends, at least until a stable
>> release includes /usr/bin/node in nodejs. Otherwise upgrades may break.
>>
>> OTOH, is this paragraph (or 2, for that matter) really needed? They're
>> just restating (somewhat imperfectly) Policy and/or normal practice in
>> Debian, which presumably come back into effect anyway once the
>> 2012-07-12 decision is repealed.
>
> It would be better to simply say "following Debian's existing backward
> compatibility practices" or something, than trying to restate it all.
Quite -- I think we just need to have clause 1 in the resolution itself.
We could have some suggestions as additional notes to describe the
consequences of the revocation.
Like mentioning that where a versioned depends on nodejs is deemed
necessary, the Depends: should probably also allow nodejs-legacy as an
alternative option, since that also provides /usr/bin/node.
Cheers, Phil.
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Re: Bug#862051: Refer #862051 to ctte
Anthony DeRobertis writes ("Re: Bug#862051: Refer #862051 to ctte"):
> On 07/14/2017 12:57 PM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > Fair point.
> >
> >3. Once a new nodejs package providing /usr/bin/node is in the
> > archive, other packages in the archive are free to depend on the
> > nodejs package and use /usr/bin/node .
>
> That should probably be a versioned Depends, at least until a stable
> release includes /usr/bin/node in nodejs. Otherwise upgrades may break.
>
> OTOH, is this paragraph (or 2, for that matter) really needed? They're
> just restating (somewhat imperfectly) Policy and/or normal practice in
> Debian, which presumably come back into effect anyway once the
> 2012-07-12 decision is repealed.
It would be better to simply say "following Debian's existing backward
compatibility practices" or something, than trying to restate it all.
Ian.
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