Bug#975075: tech-ctte: Should maintainers be able to block init compatibility changes?

2020-11-18 Thread Josh Triplett
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 17:33:26 + Matthew Vernon wrote: > This bug report relates specifically to bugs in the network-manager > package (#921012, #964139) but has broader implications, particularly > around what it means to "support the efforts of developers"[0] working > on support for

Bug#975075: tech-ctte: Should maintainers be able to block init compatibility changes?

2020-11-18 Thread Philipp Kern
On 18.11.20 18:33, Matthew Vernon wrote: > Package: tech-ctte > Control: block 921012 by -1 > Control: block 964139 by -1 > X-Debbugs-CC: debian-init-divers...@chiark.greenend.org.uk > > Dear Technical Committee, > > This bug report relates specifically to bugs in the network-manager > package

Bug#975075: tech-ctte: Should maintainers be able to block init compatibility changes?

2020-11-18 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi, On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 10:21 AM Matthew Vernon wrote: > > I invite the technical committee to rule that: What a great read! This message must be among the best prepared, and most polite, to come before the committee. Kind regards, Felix Lechner

Today's meeting

2020-11-18 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, Just to note that we had a meeting today: http://meetbot.debian.net/debian-ctte/2020/debian-ctte.2020-11-18-17.58.html -- Sean Whitton signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Bug#971515: Status as of last tech-ctte meeting

2020-11-18 Thread Russ Allbery
This is an excellent discussion and a good summary. Thank you, Gunnar! Gunnar Wolf writes: > There is a course of action that's unlikely to leave everybody happy, > but is worth considering: Phil said: > Phil> > that makes it seem like what we actually need is a decent way of >

Bug#971515: Status as of last tech-ctte meeting

2020-11-18 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello all, On Wed 18 Nov 2020 at 11:36AM -06, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > So... It's not like we reached a conclusion, but I do feel the meeting > was interesting and the discussion very much worthy. Yes, this will > surely end up in reinforcing the notion that the Technical Committee > is a slow and

Bug#975075: tech-ctte: Should maintainers be able to block init compatibility changes?

2020-11-18 Thread Matthew Vernon
Package: tech-ctte Control: block 921012 by -1 Control: block 964139 by -1 X-Debbugs-CC: debian-init-divers...@chiark.greenend.org.uk Dear Technical Committee, This bug report relates specifically to bugs in the network-manager package (#921012, #964139) but has broader implications,

Processed: tech-ctte: Should maintainers be able to block init compatibility changes?

2020-11-18 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: > block 921012 by -1 Bug #921012 [network-manager] network-manager: change dependency on libpam-systemd to libpam-systemd or libpam-elogind Bug #960780 [network-manager] Network-manager: please Depend on libpam-systemd | logind 921012 was not blocked by any bugs.

Bug#971515: Status as of last tech-ctte meeting

2020-11-18 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Hello world, When we had our last tech-ctte meeting, 2020.10.21ยน, I volunteered to write up a summary of our positions regarding this bug. Then... Well, life happened, and I have not had the time to sit down and write until today -- A couple of hours before our next meeting. Several other