On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 08:03:35PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 06:09:10PM +0200, Moss wrote:
Mandatory here.
Here too. Not sure when it became that way.
Here in the United States, it was 1967, in part due to the exposure of
car safety issues and political
On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 08:03:35PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 06:09:10PM +0200, Moss wrote:
Huh? I'm driving a (somewhat aged, by now ;-) Saab 900i, which has
the engine in front. Same with the newer 9^3 and 9^5 models. Do
they have completely different Saabs
On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 08:21:33PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 07:26:14PM +0100, Pigeon wrote:
Not only crazy, but more complicated to make than a separate turn
signal. Never seen on this side of the pond!
I have heard claims that it is simple to do, but I can't
Lennart Sorensen [2004-04-05 9.46 -0400]:
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 12:03:00PM -0400, David Brown wrote:
essentially he wanted to:
put safety glass in the windsheild (which the big 3 automakers
didnt
want to do because of cost)
Mandatory here.
Seems to be the same excuse for still making the
On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 09:46:58AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 12:03:00PM -0400, David Brown wrote:
essentially he wanted to:
put safety glass in the windsheild (which the big 3 automakers didnt
want to do because of cost)
Seems to be the same excuse for still
On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 06:09:10PM +0200, Moss wrote:
Mandatory here.
Here too. Not sure when it became that way. Way too many design
decisions are based on cost in north america for cars, and not enough on
safe sensible design.
I always thought that to be mandatory in the US - that's one of
On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 07:26:14PM +0100, Pigeon wrote:
Not only crazy, but more complicated to make than a separate turn
signal. Never seen on this side of the pond!
I have heard claims that it is simple to do, but I can't imagine how.
The DS. I think someone else did it as well but I can't
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 20:03:35 -0400, Lennart wrote in message
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On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 06:09:10PM +0200, Moss wrote:
Mandatory here.
Here too. Not sure when it became that way. Way too many design
decisions are based on cost in north america for cars, and not enough
on
Tucker was the subject of a movie that had Jeff Bridges playing Preston
Tucker-an inventor that wants to make a new improved auto..
find it here at imdb.com: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096316/
(if this list doesnt let the link go thru then just do a search at imdb.
com on jeff bridges)
seeing
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 07:28, Pigeon wrote:
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 01:47:42AM +1000, bob parker wrote:
xf86config is a text based
configurer that generates a XF86Config file that will need to be renamed
afterward to XF86Config-4 if using XFree86 version 4.1 the default for
Woody.
...why?
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 12:03:00 -0400, David wrote:
create a headlamp system that would turn in the direction that you
were turning for improved vision ( a feature unused but comming out
now in some 2005/2006 autos)
Note that the Citroën DS in later models (from 1969 forward I think;
the DS was
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 01:47:42AM +1000, bob parker wrote:
Speaking from limited experience. The graphical configurator xf86cfg that is
used in Woody is such a useless heap of shit that I suspect that it must have
been donated by Microsoft. By useless heap of shit I mean that it actually
Robert == Robert Waldner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Robert Yeah, that'll happen instead of the rising of Windows Media and
Robert other DRMed crap we see now.
Robert I'd rather say, get an MP3-player w/o DRM as long as you still
Robert can.
Believe it or not, there are already MP3 players that
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 01:50:17PM -0500, David Brown wrote:
just remember if the 'BETTER' product won all the time we would all have
Beta machines in our dens
...make that V2000 :-)
and Tucker's parked in our driveways...
what's a Tucker?
--
Pigeon
Be kind to pigeons
Get my GPG key
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 09:32:10PM +0200, Ulrich Fürst wrote:
Hubert Chan wrote:
I wonder if that isn't a general GNU/Linux problem, and not just
Debian. e.g. I wonder if RedHat would be different.
O.K. I must admit that I never installed another distribution. (I tried
to install RedHat but
yes...it is all relative
personally i find calculus to be challenging..however i have a surfer
friend who cant keep 2 dimes in checking account but can do quadratic
equations in his head..(we believe him to have 'Rainman' syndrome...the
more drugs he takes, the smarter he gets...its really
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 09:12:19PM +0200, Alexander Duscheleit said:
Well, there is at least one *really* hard question:
Please choose a network name for your host.
A friend of mine wrote an entire RFC about this difficulty.
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2100.html
--
Shawn McMahon
Andreas von Heydwolff wrote:
Ulrich Fürst wrote:
complete. For example scanning: it lasted several weeks to get it going.
Guten Abend,
ich kann Ihnen nachfühlen, daß es nicht ganz trivial war, Debian zu
installieren - wäre aber vielleicht mit anderen Distributionen ähnlich
gewesen. Ich lerne
Hubert Chan wrote:
Ulrich But much harder than installing is to get the system
Ulrich working. I'm working on the system for nearly half a year and I
Ulrich ain't got my system complete. For example scanning: it lasted
Ulrich several weeks to get it going.
I wonder if that isn't a general
unacceptable
world domination will include all beings and lifeforms...
their combined beings and resources will be added to the collective..
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.
later
DAVE
why are highways in Hawaii called interstates? - anon
On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 08:04:02AM -0500, David Brown
Debian is hard to install. I am not an 80 year old grandmother and I never
expected to get it going in two hours. There are a whole lot of people
somewhere between the grandmother and the person who is proficient in linux.
However, at least I knew what I was getting into; most references to
Billie == Billie Mulcahy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Billie Debian is hard to install. ...
Could you tell us what you found hard about the install?
Personally, I have never found it hard to install. The only thing I
found was that you had to know what hardware you had, to pick out the
right
Hallo Hubert,
* Hubert Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [29-03-04 12:58]:
Billie == Billie Mulcahy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Billie Debian is hard to install. ...
[...]
So I am wondering what exactly it is that people find hard about the
Debian installer.
Well, there is at least one *really*
On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 09:15:11 -0800
William Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 11:53:57AM -0500, Billie Mulcahy wrote:
Billie
Reality is for those who lack imagination.
Reality is a crutch for people who can't cope with drugs.
Lily Tomlin
Reality?
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 08:12:13AM +1200, criggie wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 09:15:11 -0800
William Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 11:53:57AM -0500, Billie Mulcahy wrote:
Billie
Reality is for those who lack imagination.
Reality is a crutch for people who
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 09:12:19PM +0200, Alexander Duscheleit wrote:
Hallo Hubert,
* Hubert Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [29-03-04 12:58]:
Billie == Billie Mulcahy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Billie Debian is hard to install. ...
[...]
So I am wondering what exactly it is that
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 10:20:02PM +0100, Pigeon wrote:
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 09:12:19PM +0200, Alexander Duscheleit wrote:
Hallo Hubert,
* Hubert Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [29-03-04 12:58]:
Billie == Billie Mulcahy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Billie Debian is hard to install. ...
Hubert Chan wrote:
Billie == Billie Mulcahy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Billie Debian is hard to install. ...
Could you tell us what you found hard about the install?
Personally, I have never found it hard to install. The only thing I
found was that you had to know what hardware you had, to pick
Ulrich == Ulrich Fürst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
Ulrich But much harder than installing is to get the system
Ulrich working. I'm working on the system for nearly half a year and I
Ulrich ain't got my system complete. For example scanning: it lasted
Ulrich several weeks to get it going.
I
On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 17:53, Martin_J Carter wrote:
Have you ever tried to install RedHat onto a system which
contained an overnew video card? an enriching experience
I would unreservedly recommend, from personal experience
(at least half a dozen rebuilds from scratch, followed by hand-
On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 09:37:16AM +, Ross Burton said:
Type linux text just like the boot prompt tells you too, instead of
hitting return.
Just to expand on what Ross said, it is undoubtedly too much to expect
of any distribution that it automatically detect whether or not the
person
hey there...
the question to ask yourself is could my 80 yearold grandmother pick up
a cd and get this O.S. running AND on the internet within 2hrs.
that is the crowd that M$ is aiming for...tbe home user...
MANY times have i been in 'Best Buy' and have seen 40,50, 80 year old
On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 08:04:02AM -0500, David Brown said:
hey there...
the question to ask yourself is could my 80 yearold grandmother pick up
a cd and get this O.S. running AND on the internet within 2hrs.
that is the crowd that M$ is aiming for...tbe home user...
Who says that's the
Shawn McMahon [2004-03-26 6.24 -0500]:
On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 09:37:16AM +, Ross Burton said:
Type linux text just like the boot prompt tells you too, instead
of
hitting return.
Just to expand on what Ross said, it is undoubtedly too much to
expect
of any distribution that it
Martin_J Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
begin quote vasudeva [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2004-03-22 14:21:49:
I realize I must be in the minority, and that Red Hat's installer
*is* pretty, but I just don't see Debian's installer as the
egregious UI disaster some make it out to be.
Have you ever
I just snapped your debian Cd in two. Normally, i don't do such a thing, but i felt it necessary since i have already waisted so much time just "trying" to install your program. I bought it on eBay for kicks and thought i'd play with it to see what it's about. It never let me in after i
David Moreno Garza wrote:
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 19:18:16 +1200, criggie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Dear Sir
We[1] are dreadfully sorry to hear about your experience with our
product. We do hope that your experiences with Debian CDs have not
hurt you or your hand.
Just remember that life is about
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 08:55:57AM -0500, Bill White wrote:
I think Debian is hard to install. The magazine reviewers all
say Debian is too hard to install, and the lists see a huge
number of people saying it's too hard to install. Now you have
a user who says it's too hard to install, and
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:21:49AM -0500, vasudeva wrote:
I realize I must be in the minority, and that Red Hat's installer
*is* pretty, but I just don't see Debian's installer as the
egregious UI disaster some make it out to be.
The stuff I'm talking about the Debian installer doesn't
I would not say Red Hat's is any better. I'm not thinking that
pretty helps, though it doesn't actively hurt. I'm thinking that
the underlying mental model of dselect is not obvious. At least
it isn't obvious to me, and I've screwed it up on more than one
case. (I have to admit that I haven't
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:38:17AM -0500, Bill White wrote:
pretty helps, though it doesn't actively hurt. I'm thinking that
the underlying mental model of dselect is not obvious. At least
it isn't obvious to me, and I've screwed it up on more than one
case. (I have to admit that I haven't
I would not say Red Hat's is any better. I'm not thinking
that pretty helps, though it doesn't actively hurt. I'm
thinking that the underlying mental model of dselect is not
obvious. At least it isn't obvious to me, and I've screwed
it up on more than one case. (I have to admit that I
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 08:55:57AM -0500, Bill White wrote:
am a Ph.D. Computer Scientist, with 30 or so years of programming
..
I think Debian is hard to install. The magazine reviewers all
Hm. When I installed Debian for the first time, it was in bo era.
I was dumb (that doesn't mean now
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