It has come to my attention that recent decisions made by the Linux
Standard Base body (I hesitate to say "committee" as I have never been
party to any of their internal discussions and am unaware of their
internal organizational structrure) are possibly unwise and have been
determined by at least
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On 19-Jan-99 Anthony Towns wrote:
> "Agreeing" with the DFSG in a fairly important part of that -- our major
> aim is to produce a free system, and if we can't even agree on what that
> means then we're not going to get *anywhere*.
>
Not necessarily. Agreeing
On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 06:09:45AM -, Robert Woodcock wrote:
> Indeed. I thought LSB was going to be an Application Environment
> specification - so that apps developed on one distribution would run on all
> the others.
>
> If that's still the case, I wanna know WTF they are thinking/smoking,
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On 19-Jan-99 Ossama Othman wrote:
> My concern is that Debian is becoming (almost) elitist. Some people are
> flat out saying "conform or get out," in a sense. Is this really a
> healthy attitude for Debian to have? I am not trying to create some sort
> of De
Chris Lawrence wrote:
>Nice to see the Open Group and X/Open are going to send us chasing our
>tails trying to get this stuff together (so we can call our Linux
>implementations "Linux" :-p) instead of pursuing Unix branding.
Indeed. I thought LSB was going to be an Application Environment
specifi
On Sat, Jan 16, 1999 at 10:26:06PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 16, 1999 at 02:36:47AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 16, 1999 at 06:10:09PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > > Well, maybe. I find config menus to be infuriating. elm's config files
> > > don't seem to hav
On Jan 18, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> It contains many interesting things that I know we disagree with. Someone
> should look at it perhaps?
Among the interesting things:
> The closing date for comments is January 11th 1999.
Nice that it was announced today then :-)
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> Reference 3.4-2(A)
> The
Hey all,
I just noticed that there was a LSB test spec on freshmeat,
ftp://ftp.xopen.org/pub/lsb/test/
and in particular
ftp://ftp.xopen.org/pub/lsb/test/LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0
It contains many interesting things that I know we disagree with. Someone
should look at it perhaps?
Jason
Havoc Pennington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Stephen Crowley wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 09:14:14AM -0500, Brian Almeida wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 03:03:26PM +0100, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> > > > and how the unfortunate of us who already have upgraded to 1.
I ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > With all due respect, if you think that there is no diversity of
> > opinion in Debian, then you haven't been around here for very long.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ossama Othman) responded:
> I was referring to the fact that many of the developers strongly felt
> that I
Hi,
I wrote:
> I was referring specifically to Craig. Rather I was referring to some of
Sorry, that should have been "I was NOT referring specifically to Craig."
Boy am I going to hear it for this foul up! :)
Hi Brian,
> > If used properly, diversity of opinion should only help Debian.
>
> With all due respect, if you think that there is no diversity of opinion
> in Debian, then you haven't been around here for very long.
I was referring to the fact that many of the developers strongly felt that
I sh
While the pine license is evil, true. I have a suggestion for the way pine
packages are currently made. The process of installing pine currently is,
apt-get install pine396-src
apt-get install pine396-diffs
cd /usr/src/pine
read the README
dpkg-source -x pine*dsc
cd pine*;debian/rules binary
see w
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ossama Othman) wrote:
> If used properly, diversity of opinion should only help Debian.
With all due respect, if you think that there is no diversity of opinion
in Debian, then you haven't been around here for very long.
> Those with opinions that differ from the mainstream sh
Hi Anthony,
> But you should agree with our social contract, right? That is, after all,
> what the point of a social contract /is/, isn't it? That we'll all abide
> by it?
Agreeing and abiding aren't the same thing. A developer may not agree
with the social contract but s/he should certainly abi
On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 06:19:46PM -0600, Ossama Othman wrote:
> I get the impression that my objectivity is being misinterpreted again.
> IMHO, the idea that developer's should agree with the DSFG and/or the
> social contract in their entirety is dangerous and will only hinder
> Debian. I don't ag
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> -- Forwarded message from Jonathan Buzzard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
> Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 11:49:13 +
> From: Jonathan Buzzard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RMS and Debian on his Toshiba
[snip]
> JAB.
>
>
> PS. Gtk-devel is broken in Hamm/Slink and P
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> -- Forwarded message from Jonathan Buzzard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
> Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 11:49:13 +
> From: Jonathan Buzzard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RMS and Debian on his Toshiba
[snip]
> JAB.
>
>
> PS. Gtk-devel is broken in Hamm/Slink and P
Previously Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> The largest German Linux user show. In fact, it is probably the
> largest Linux event in Europe. (If there is a larger one, we haven't
> heard of it.) Last year there were an estimated 1500 visitors.
> http://www.linuxtag.org/>.
End of June.. sounds like I'
On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Stephen Crowley wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 09:14:14AM -0500, Brian Almeida wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 03:03:26PM +0100, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> > > and how the unfortunate of us who already have upgraded to 1.0.2 can
> > > downgrade,
> > > i see the 1.0.1 package
Previously Brian Almeida wrote:
> Stephen Crowley (aka Crow-) is.
Euh, isn't Jim Pick going to package the new GNOME as well?
Wichert.
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Hi Craig,
I get the impression that my objectivity is being misinterpreted again.
IMHO, the idea that developer's should agree with the DSFG and/or the
social contract in their entirety is dangerous and will only hinder
Debian. I don't agree with all of Debian's policies, nor should I have to.
How
On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 11:29:40PM +0100, Gregor Hoffleit wrote:
> Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> > Because we, the organizers of LinuxTag '99, would like to invite the
> > Debian project to set up a booth at this year's event. Several major
> > Linux distributions will be there: SuSE, DLD, re
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