Re: webbit...

2003-04-30 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
Il mer, 2003-04-30 alle 14:38, Enrico Zini ha scritto: On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 11:57:29AM +0200, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: Ho notato che c'e' una 'seconda puntata' anche a Napoli... Ma in cosa consiste e soprattutto chi ci va? sono i soli seminari (neanche tutti). per ora non ci va

Re: webbit...

2003-04-30 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 02:38:24PM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 11:57:29AM +0200, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: Ho notato che c'e' una 'seconda puntata' anche a Napoli... Ma in cosa consiste e soprattutto chi ci va? sono i soli seminari (neanche tutti). per ora non ci

Re: aag - wrapper for apt-get with support for recommend and suggests field

2003-04-30 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 12:59:17AM +0200, Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 05:23:52PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 03:58:34PM +0200, Alexander Wirt [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Its interactive, I don't want to launch

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-30 Thread Martin v. Lwis
Arnd Bergmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It would surely be nice to see performance numbers from actual applications. After all, the applications are normally doing some things besides low level atomic operations. Indeed, it would be interesting to find out how often applications invoke these

Re: libstdc++... Help please

2003-04-30 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 02:08:33PM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote: Woody was effectively frozen around Jan 2002, no major changes to packages were permitted, etc. I'm sorry, but you're still wrong. No major changes to subsystems were allowed -- like switching to KDE 3, or new Qt, or new Gnome, or

fixed libstdc++5 package

2003-04-30 Thread Matthias Klose
A fixed libstdc++ package (0pre7) has been uploaded to incoming. You can get it from http://ftp-master.debian.org/~doko/gcc-3.3/ for i386 as well. Another workaround is to keep or reinstall the 0pre5 package (it's currently in sarge/testing). Sorry for messing up unstable, I did the

Re: New virtual package: festival-voice (bug#112565)

2003-04-30 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Thu, Apr 17, 2003 at 05:15:44PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: The festival speech syntesizer needs at least one voice file. I'd like to use a virtual package named festival-voice so that people cannot install it without one, which is a problem (see the above bug). Last time I looked, the

Re: /run/, resolvconf and read-only root

2003-04-30 Thread Thomas Hood
Whether we end up with /run/, resolvconf and read-only root depends a lot on whether the maintainers of the affected packages support the project. So far the response has not been positive. Here is a quick summary for the packages that were on my TODO list. Creating /run/ base-files Change

Re: aag - wrapper for apt-get with support for recommend and suggests field

2003-04-30 Thread Joshua Kwan
On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 11:43:38PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: Try running apt in an up-to-date unstable. (this isn't apt's fault, of course) Ah, yeah, I downgraded and put libstdc++5 on hold the second shit started flowing downhill (ie with menu) :) Regards Josh -- New PGP public key:

Re: fixed libstdc++5 package

2003-04-30 Thread Peter Makholm
Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Btw, looking at the reports, I see 30 submitted from i386 architectures, one from a powerpc machine, none from other architectures, although all architectures are affected. Conclusions? ;-) The general i386-user is so stupid that they can't handle

Re: New virtual package: festival-voice (bug#112565)

2003-04-30 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Andrew Pollock [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-04-30 17:26]: On Thu, Apr 17, 2003 at 05:15:44PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: The festival speech syntesizer needs at least one voice file. I'd like to use a virtual package named festival-voice so that people cannot install it without one, which

Re: Backporting a package from unstable to stable

2003-04-30 Thread Andreas Metzler
Junichi Uekawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Backporting] Is it as simple as using something like pbuilder and tweaking the Build-Depends to match the versions of the packages that are in stable? To answer the question, the answer is 'no, not always'. You need some try-and-error, and usually

Re: Announcing Debian Package Tags

2003-04-30 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, (sorry to respond) On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 07:35:47PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: On Tue, 2003-04-29 at 14:32, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 12:24:19 -0400, David Roundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: To be precise, you said Maybe novices should only be shown gui

Re: fixed libstdc++5 package

2003-04-30 Thread Jérôme Marant
En réponse à Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Btw, looking at the reports, I see 30 submitted from i386 architectures, one from a powerpc machine, none from other architectures, although all architectures are affected. Conclusions? ;-) Let's drop the others? };- -- Jérôme Marant [EMAIL

Re: New virtual package: festival-voice (bug#112565)

2003-04-30 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 07:26:11 +, Andrew Pollock wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2003 at 05:15:44PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: The festival speech syntesizer needs at least one voice file. I'd like to use a virtual package named festival-voice so that people cannot install it without one,

Re: New virtual package: festival-voice (bug#112565)

2003-04-30 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, On Fri, 18 Apr 2003 04:16:42 +, Matthew Palmer wrote: Policy requires discussing new virtual packages on d-d... Unless the virtual package is only to be used amongst a group of cooperating packages (Policy section 2.3.5). I think this would qualify. I don't know whether the voice

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-30 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 12:52:11PM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: On Sat, 2003-04-26 at 03:56, Chris Cheney wrote: I also find it hard to believe that the majority of our users do not have or can not purchase a system that is less than 7 years old. I have a brand new 486-class system

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Re: libstdc++... Help please

2003-04-30 Thread Jesus Climent
On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 12:45:32PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Nope. We need ourselves to play with unstable - but unstable is not up for testing. That's what *testing* is for! :-) Ideally, Sid should stay as a developer testbed. In fact, when I started using it, I got disappointed because

Re: fixed libstdc++5 package

2003-04-30 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 09:23:39AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Btw, looking at the reports, I see 30 submitted from i386 architectures, one from a powerpc machine, none from other architectures, although all architectures are affected. Conclusions? ;-) Users of non-i386 architectures are

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How to upgrade package which changed syntax (new programs)

2003-04-30 Thread Ondrej Sury
Hello, I am packaging relay-ctrl package which is tool how to make pop3be4smtp for qmail based systems. Versions before 2.53 worked by compiling tcp.smtp.cdb database each time new IP was authorized and no modification of smtp service was neccessary. From version 3.0 you need to modify all

Re: libstdc++... Help please

2003-04-30 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:22:33 +, Jesus Climent wrote: I had the idea that stopping the upgrades, rebuilding *all* the packages with the new version of the compilers and reinitiating the upgrades could solve the problem which otherwise has caused a great deal of delay. If I understood

Re: fixed libstdc++5 package

2003-04-30 Thread James Troup
Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Btw, looking at the reports, I see 30 submitted from i386 architectures, one from a powerpc machine, none from other architectures, although all architectures are affected. Conclusions? ;-) Well, duh, let's see. Several architectures' build were

Re: libstdc++... Help please

2003-04-30 Thread Björn Stenberg
Matthias Urlichs wrote: If I understood correctly, part of the problem is/was that some of the rebuilds simply didn't work because of problems with the new compilers. The current tools don't allow programs of arch X into testing if they fail to build on arch Y. I think that in general this

Re: Announcing Debian Package Tags

2003-04-30 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 08:38:30 +, Emile van Bergen wrote: people tend to have a lot larger memory for words than for images and unpronounceable hieroglyphs (icons, and -- shudder -- tool bars). Not to nitpick, but people, and indeed entire cultures, for which this isn't true -- because

RFA: sbuild -- Tool for building Debian binary packages from Debian sources

2003-04-30 Thread Rick Younie
Missing X-Debbugs-CC? - Forwarded message from Rick Younie [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Rick Younie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:00:39 -0700 To: Debian Bug Tracking System [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RFA: sbuild -- Tool for building Debian binary packages from Debian

Re: /run/, resolvconf and read-only root

2003-04-30 Thread Arthur de Jong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't know what it will take to convince you, but I would like you to answer these questions: I also have a problem with adding another toplevel directory and I suspect there are some more. I haven't read the complete thread (I also have other

Re: aag - wrapper for apt-get with support for recommend and suggests field

2003-04-30 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 04:08:14AM -0700, David Nusinow wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 06:13:38AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: i have written a small wrapper for apt-get that makes it possible to install all recommended and/or suggested Packages for a Package too. Why not just use

Re: Announcing Debian Package Tags

2003-04-30 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 02:27:35PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Hi, On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 08:38:30 +, Emile van Bergen wrote: people tend to have a lot larger memory for words than for images and unpronounceable hieroglyphs (icons, and -- shudder -- tool bars). Not to nitpick, but

OpenOffice in other menu?

2003-04-30 Thread Carl B. Constantine
Why is OpenOffice in the Other menu in Gnome (2.2) instead of in the Office menu where it should be? -- .''`. Carl B. Constantine : :' : [EMAIL PROTECTED] `. `'GnuPG: 135F FC30 7A02 B0EB 61DB 34E3 3AF1 DC6C 9F7A 3FF8 `- Debian GNU/Linux -- The power of freedom

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-30 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Anthony DeRobertis | On Sat, 2003-04-26 at 03:56, Chris Cheney wrote: | | I also find it hard to believe that the majority of our users do not | have or can not purchase a system that is less than 7 years old. | | I have a brand new 486-class system with 32MB of RAM. It's less than 6 |

Re: Backporting a package from unstable to stable

2003-04-30 Thread Steve Greenland
On 29-Apr-03, 19:11 (CDT), James D Strandboge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are going to backport packages from sid, you will most likely need to backport debhelper, debconf, automake*, et al so that the package will build properly (though it may *compile* correctly). Instead of backporting

Re: Announcing Debian Package Tags

2003-04-30 Thread Mike Dresser
On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: Maybe that's intuitive to some people but to me it just looks wierd. On the other hand if it simply had the letters bash or just sh it's meaning would have been immediatly apparent. Indeed. There's a Windows tool I use at times, called

ITP: gnome-velocity -- A light file manager for GNOME2

2003-04-30 Thread Leo \Costela\ Antunes
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-04-30 Severity: wishlist * Package name: gnome-velocity Version : 0.1alpha Upstream Author : Kyle Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://velocity.sf.net * License : GPL Description : A light file manager

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2003-04-30 Thread friend
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Re: /run/, resolvconf and read-only root

2003-04-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 03:13:43PM +0200, Arthur de Jong wrote: Do you think having programs write to /etc is a bad thing? I think creating /run is worse. I think it should be possible for any program that writes to /etc (it it cannot use /var) either to be configurable to store it's data

Re: libstdc++... Help please

2003-04-30 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:06:11 +, Björn Stenberg wrote: Matthias Urlichs wrote: The current tools don't allow programs of arch X into testing if they fail to build on arch Y. I think that in general this is a good idea. I disagree. The net effect is that the program gets less testing,

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-30 Thread Arnd Bergmann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 30 April 2003 16:29, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Anthony DeRobertis | Please explain how I can get a similar system, running on a similar | amount of power, and with no moving parts (i.e., no fans) using, even a | P-II.

Re: Bug#190038: libgtkdatabox_1:0.2.3.0-1(m68k/unstable/thing2): FTBFS on m68k

2003-04-30 Thread Martin Schulze
Junichi Uekawa wrote: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/m68k-linux/3.2.3/../../../libgdk-x11-2.0.so: undefined reference to `Xine ramaIsActive' /usr/lib/gcc-lib/m68k-linux/3.2.3/../../../libgdk-x11-2.0.so: undefined reference to `Xine ramaQueryScreens' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

RE: ITP: gnome-velocity -- A light file manager for GNOME2

2003-04-30 Thread Leo \Costela\ Antunes
severity #191420 wishlist thanks I don't know why it was filled as Normal... it didn't recognize wishlist as a valid value for the Severity pseudo-header... Any hints? Cheers PS.: CC me, I'm not on d-devel -- Leo Costela [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key

Bug#191434: ITP: libcgi-session-perl -- Persistent session data in CGI applications

2003-04-30 Thread Julien Danjou
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-04-30 Severity: wishlist * Package name: libcgi-session-perl Version : 3.93 Upstream Author : Sherzod Ruzmetov [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.cpan.org * License : as Perl itself Description :

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2003-04-30 Thread friend
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Re: fixed libstdc++5 package

2003-04-30 Thread Matthias Klose
James Troup writes: Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Btw, looking at the reports, I see 30 submitted from i386 architectures, one from a powerpc machine, none from other architectures, although all architectures are affected. Conclusions? ;-) Well, duh, let's see. Several

Re: Bug#191420: ITP: gnome-velocity -- A light file manager for GNOME2

2003-04-30 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 05:13:13PM -0300, Leo Costela Antunes wrote: severity #191420 wishlist thanks I don't know why it was filled as Normal... it didn't recognize wishlist as a valid value for the Severity pseudo-header... Any hints? A temporary BTS glitch. Please ignore it, it's been

Re: debian.org machine with pbuilder/debootstrap?

2003-04-30 Thread Martin Schulze
Neil Roeth wrote: On Apr 28, Martin Schulze ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hamish Moffatt wrote: Many have chroots but don't tend to have the relevant build-deps installed. You can always send a mail into the direction of [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask for the packages which are missing.

Re: Dropping/splitting (proper) i386 support

2003-04-30 Thread Matthias Klose
Hamish Moffatt writes: On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 04:32:37PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: This is an attempt to summarize some points. 1. Why do we have a problem, other than performance issues? * To maintain binary compatibility with other distributions for C++ packages, Debian needs

Re: Dropping/splitting (proper) i386 support

2003-04-30 Thread Matthias Klose
Neil Roeth writes: Nice summary. * Drop i386 support mostly. 'i386' architecture becomes 'i486'. Start a 'Debian-real-i386' subproject, with a 'real-i386' architecture, but don't require that any packages build on it in order to go into testing or to release Debian; it would be a bonus

Re: ITP: gnome-velocity -- A light file manager for GNOME2

2003-04-30 Thread Adam Heath
On 30 Apr 2003, Leo Costela Antunes wrote: Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-04-30 Severity: wishlist * Package name: gnome-velocity Version : 0.1alpha Upstream Author : Kyle Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://velocity.sf.net * License

Re: /run/, resolvconf and read-only root

2003-04-30 Thread Thomas Hood
On Wed, 2003-04-30 at 15:13, Arthur de Jong wrote: I think it should be possible for any program that writes to /etc (it it cannot use /var) either to be configurable to store it's data somewhere else or use a symlink to store the data somwhere else (e.g. /proc/flashrom or

About standard 'c' structures in header files.

2003-04-30 Thread Halil Demirezen
Hi, As writing a network based program, does debian forces i should use standard structures in headers files? for example: struct iphdr i can construct this structure my own. However, does debian want to see there __standard__ structures in .deb packages? sincerely. --halil

Re: Accepted arcboot 0.3.6 (mips source)

2003-04-30 Thread Alastair McKinstry
Hi, I'm looking at what needs to be be done for mips support in debian-installer, and it appears we probably need arcboot support. Currently the installers prepare the disk image, then present a menu option to run lilo, or grub (which get run in a chroot of the target). Would the same work for

Re: RFA: sbuild -- Tool for building Debian binary packages from Debian sources

2003-04-30 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 05:44:06AM -0700, Rick Younie wrote: I request an adopter for the sbuild package. Roger Leigh packages buildd (which includes sbuild) locally, so he might be the right guy for this. Michael

Re: Announcing Debian Package Tags

2003-04-30 Thread Jacob Hallén
Other usefulpackage tags would be source language (C, C++, Python, Perl, Ruby etc.) and platform (KDE, GNOME...). Jacob Hallén

SPAM to BTS

2003-04-30 Thread Brian May
I can only presume this was SPAM? Fortunately bug #91791 is already closed and archived. -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- Erase your email record here. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: fixed libstdc++5 package

2003-04-30 Thread Alex Romosan
Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A fixed libstdc++ package (0pre7) has been uploaded to incoming. You can get it from http://ftp-master.debian.org/~doko/gcc-3.3/ i've asked in the bug report i filed against the broken libstdc++ and previously on the debian-gcc mailing list but

Re: debian.org machine with pbuilder/debootstrap?

2003-04-30 Thread Neil Roeth
On Apr 30, Martin Schulze ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Neil Roeth wrote: On Apr 28, Martin Schulze ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hamish Moffatt wrote: Many have chroots but don't tend to have the relevant build-deps installed. You can always send a mail into the direction of

Re: About standard 'c' structures in header files.

2003-04-30 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 11:53:14PM +0300, Halil Demirezen wrote: Hi, As writing a network based program, does debian forces i should use standard structures in headers files? for example: struct iphdr i can construct this structure my own. However, does debian want to see there

Re: debian.org machine with pbuilder/debootstrap?

2003-04-30 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 10:16:11PM -0400, Neil Roeth wrote: On Apr 30, Martin Schulze ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Neil Roeth wrote: On Apr 28, Martin Schulze ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hamish Moffatt wrote: Many have chroots but don't tend to have the relevant build-deps

Re: Como armar un cd de instalaci'on de debian

2003-04-30 Thread Juantomás García
Hola Ignacio, hay bastante información que te puede ir bien en http://metadistros.hispalinux.es/ Saludos juantomás/ El mar, 29 de 04 de 2003 a las 23:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Por un trabajo tengo que armar un cd de instalaci'on de debian a medida, con los paquetes default modificados,

no sé qué de informática en la Fèria de València

2003-04-30 Thread Jordi Mallach
Hola gentola, Me han llegado unos 3 correos sobre una feria de informática que hacen en Feria Valencia la semana que viene, del 6 al 8. Se ve que hay cosas linuxeras y eso. Alguien de por aquí va a ir? Pregunto por si me va a valer la pena acercarme a ver un par de jetos o tres :) Si no, pues

Re: no sé qué de informática en la Fèria de València

2003-04-30 Thread Ignacio García Fernández
On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 03:47:58PM +0200, Jordi Mallach wrote: Hola gentola, Me han llegado unos 3 correos sobre una feria de informática que hacen en Feria Valencia la semana que viene, del 6 al 8. Se ve que hay cosas linuxeras y eso. Alguien de por aquí va a ir? Yo voy a ir, creo. Tal vez

Re: no sé qué de informática en la Fèria de València

2003-04-30 Thread Sergio Talens-Oliag
El Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 05:06:01PM +0200, Ignacio García Fernández escribió: On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 03:47:58PM +0200, Jordi Mallach wrote: Hola gentola, Me han llegado unos 3 correos sobre una feria de informática que hacen en Feria Valencia la semana que viene, del 6 al 8. Se ve que

Re: no sé qué de informática en la Fèria de València

2003-04-30 Thread Eric Van Buggenhaut
Al mié 30 de abr de 2003 a las 05:06 +0200, Ignacio García Fernández escribió: On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 03:47:58PM +0200, Jordi Mallach wrote: Hola gentola, Me han llegado unos 3 correos sobre una feria de informática que hacen en Feria Valencia la semana que viene, del 6 al 8. Se ve que

Re: pacote libc-client2003debian-dev

2003-04-30 Thread caio ferreira
On Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:39:11 +0200 Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Estou tentando portar o pacote libc-client2003debian-dev do unstable para o stable. Estou precisando portar esse [acote para também portar o php4-dev do unstable para o stable. mas quando eu