Re: Keysigning without physically meeting ... thoughts?

On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 11:17:21PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > What are we setting out to achieve? > > - To verify that the person so identified controls a specific email address What does 'control' mean here? Given this: > Many people consider all of options a), b), and c) to be inappropri

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

Andreas Gredler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 07:58:11PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: >> Andreas Gredler wrote: >> > Is there a way to handle this? Could a kernel be patched to read data >> > from multiple floppy disks? I know that this question sounds a little >> > bit stupid,

Re: Keysigning without physically meeting ... thoughts?

On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 11:49:29AM +1000, Brian May wrote: > Can I please ask the blindingly obvious question that is so obvious > nobody has asked? > What is the point of keysigning? > What are we setting out to achieve? - To authenticate a person's real-world identity - To verify that the per

Re: Why target Debian developers with Windows worms?

Am Sonntag 12 Juni 2005 02:19 schrieb Joe Smith: > What is interesting is that this worm will not send to addresses that > contain: > berkeley > bugs > bsd > fsf. > gnu > kernel > linux > mozilla > unix > the.bat > root > sendmail > listserv > > So it looks like the worm tries to avoid open source

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

On Sunday 12 June 2005 09:14, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some older BIOSes don't allow booting from CD-ROM, let alone netbooting or It's easy to solve the problem of a BIOS that doesn't support booting from CD-ROM. You have a boot loader on a floppy disk that loads the kernel and in

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

On Sunday 12 June 2005 08:38, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2005 00:24, Russell Coker wrote: > > New laptops tend to ship without floppy drives and desktop machines > > will surely follow soon. Plans for future hardware support should not > > involve floppy disks. > > Pl

Re: Keysigning without physically meeting ... thoughts?

> "Wesley" == Wesley J Landaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Wesley> I wrote this up to someone. I thought I'd share it, and Wesley> get your thoughts. (e.g. anybody see any weaknesses in Wesley> #1-#3 that *aren't* present in the typical meet, check ID, Wesley> get GPG fingerp

Re: cogito no longer conflicts with git or cgvg

"Joe Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The upstream folks are planning to split cogito and git into two separate > > packages. I requested (and they seemed to agree) that they change the > > package name from git to something else before then. Hopefully they'll > > see the light and try to pl

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

Brian May wrote: > Yaird appears to be newer and better then mkinitrd d-i images are not created with mkinitrd. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

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Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

> "Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joey> Since d-i currently puts the initrd that reads the second Joey> floppy (or other USB media) on the boot floppy with the Joey> kernel, we either have to shoehorn that initrd, which is Joey> currently 644k, onto the same flo

Re: Why target Debian developers with Windows worms?

What is interesting is that this worm will not send to addresses that contain: berkeley bugs bsd fsf. gnu kernel linux mozilla unix the.bat root sendmail listserv So it looks like the worm tries to avoid open source or free software sites. The worm contains may other no-sends, in categogories l

Upgrading to Debian sarge

Hello, I am attempting to upgrade a powerpc based system to sarge. It was previously on testing, but hasn't been updated for months. I left the download going overnight (over 600Meg downloads according to aptitude), but it doesn't seem to like anything it downloads. No errors, no warnings, but no

Re: cogito no longer conflicts with git or cgvg

The upstream folks are planning to split cogito and git into two separate packages. I requested (and they seemed to agree) that they change the package name from git to something else before then. Hopefully they'll see the light and try to play nice with the rest of the world. Hmm... It look

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

On Sunday 12 June 2005 00:51, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jun 12, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have a very nice Pentium I (my internet gateway) that has a broken > > CD-drive and no USB (and certainly wouldn't boot from USB even if it > > had) but that installs perfectly from floppy. > Y

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

On Jun 12, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a very nice Pentium I (my internet gateway) that has a broken > CD-drive and no USB (and certainly wouldn't boot from USB even if it had) > but that installs perfectly from floppy. You said it: it's *broken*. Expecting to support some old

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

On Jun 12, Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why not use a USB flash device for booting? All the recent machines I've > tried have booted from a 64M USB device which gives plenty of space for such > things. Older machines would be restricted to booting from CD-ROM. Agreed. While it wo

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

On Sunday 12 June 2005 00:24, Russell Coker wrote: > New laptops tend to ship without floppy drives and desktop machines > will surely follow soon. Plans for future hardware support should not > involve floppy disks. Please, we do not only support new hardware. I have a very nice Pentium I (my in

Re: cogito no longer conflicts with git or cgvg

On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > The new cogito package (0.11.3+20050610-1) is on its way into sid. > It does not install /usr/bin/git or /usr/bin/cg, and so it does not > conflict with git or with cgvg. > > I made a note about this in /usr/share/doc/cogito/README.Debian, and I >

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

On Tuesday 07 June 2005 19:12, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 01:47:12AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > On Jun 07, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > - _No_ bugs in base packages (well, at least no old bugs). Base system > > > sho

Re: Bug#312669: /sbin/ifconfig: Add ifconfig to user path

On Sat, 11 Jun 2005, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 12:42:21PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > I don't understand what would be wrong with having a symlink in /bin ... > > Because this applies to most of the programs in /sbin. It would be easier > to just merge both directorie

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

On Tuesday 07 June 2005 19:31, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about switching from getty to mingetty? Is there any reason to use > getty by default? Is there any reason to change? -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://ww

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

On Friday 10 June 2005 09:58, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since d-i currently puts the initrd that reads the second floppy (or > other USB media) on the boot floppy with the kernel, we either have to > shoehorn that initrd, which is currently 644k, onto the same floppy, > reducing its si

Re: TODO for etch ?

On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 10:44:14PM +0200, Joerg Friedrich wrote: > - improved menu system: > > I'd like to have the possibilty to hide some programs from the users > menu, or from groups of users. > > present them a 'smaller default' > > and let them easily adjust their person

Re: Why target Debian developers with Windows worms?

Florian Weimer wrote: > The string "Debian" was simply copied from your email address (and > capitalized). The worm doesn't target Debian specifically. That's far more sensical than expecting Debian developers to be using MS Outlook. -- Kevin Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, em

Re: Why target Debian developers with Windows worms?

* Kevin Rosenberg: > Florian Weimer wrote: >> The string "Debian" was simply copied from your email address (and >> capitalized). The worm doesn't target Debian specifically. > > That's far more sensical than expecting Debian developers to be > using MS Outlook. By the way, this isn't mere specu

Re: TODO for etch ?

Nikita V. Youshchenko schrieb am Freitag, 10. Juni 2005 um 23:39:16 +0400: > - My wishlist as a user: - Finer graded task selection while installation like Javier already wrote in "And now for something..." :-) as a sysadmin: - debtags support in the package system, since I often spen

Re: Why target Debian developers with Windows worms?

* Kevin Rosenberg: > I receieved a windows worm in a zip file with a message about my > Debian account being suspended[1]. It seems odd that someone would > bother targetting Debian developers with a Windows worm. The string "Debian" was simply copied from your email address (and capitalized). T

Why target Debian developers with Windows worms?

I receieved a windows worm in a zip file with a message about my Debian account being suspended[1]. It seems odd that someone would bother targetting Debian developers with a Windows worm. -- Kevin Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] Dear user kmr, It has come to our attention that your Debian

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

Hi, On Tuesday, 07 Jun 2005, you wrote: > Feel free to add some new items or add (hopefully new) information to the > ones I list below: > - A lot of programms use tcpwrapper which I appreciate a lot. However, it is quite often not too easy to find out what to write in hosts.allow to allow

Structured (XML-like) input/output for shell apps?

Hi, Many shell apps/scripts output data in tables, for example ls -l, ps aux, top, netstat, etc. At the moment, most of these apps use fixed-width columns with a variable-width last-column. This results in (unnecessary) truncation, for example: Debian- 11918 0.0 0.1 4428 1464 ?Ss

Re: cogito no longer conflicts with git or cgvg

Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 2005-06-10 23:21:54, schrieb Sebastian Kuzminsky: > > The new cogito package (0.11.3+20050610-1) is on its way into sid. > > It does not install /usr/bin/git or /usr/bin/cg, and so it does not > > conflict with git or with cgvg. > > I think, this is

Re: Bug#312669: /sbin/ifconfig: Add ifconfig to user path

*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* Adrian von Bidder wrote: >On Friday 10 June 2005 10.40, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > >>Hello Olaf, >> >>On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 02:58:21PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: >> >> >>>ifconfig is in /sbin and only in root's

Re: namespace conflict != package Conflict?

Adam Majer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > >Hi folks, I have a noob question for you. I maintain the Cogito package > >(my first), and it wants to install an executable as /usr/bin/git. The > >GNU Interactive Tools package (git) also wants to install an executable > >as

Re: namespace conflict != package Conflict?

Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 07:50:58PM -0600, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > > Hi folks, I have a noob question for you. I maintain the Cogito package > > (my first), and it wants to install an executable as /usr/bin/git. The > > GNU Interactive Tools package (gi

Re: Canonical and Debian

* Steve Langasek: >> how powerfull would a machine need to be to be of any help here? would >> an ultra 10 or a netra x1 be sufficient? > > The current buildd is an UltraSPARC II 300MHz with 512MB of RAM, and is not > sufficient. A Netra X1 typically feature a 400 MHz or 500 MHz UltraSPARC IIe CP

Re: TODO for etch ?

Hallo Adrian, * Adrian von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-11 17:23]: > On Friday 10 June 2005 21.39, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > Hello. > > > > Is the TODO list for etch available anywhere? > > It is now. > > > > Please help updating it. Because

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 07:58:11PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Andreas Gredler wrote: > > Is there a way to handle this? Could a kernel be patched to read data > > from multiple floppy disks? I know that this question sounds a little > > bit stupid, but floppies still seem to be the most reliable way

Re: TODO for etch ?

Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: Since I can't find such a list, I'll try to write (a beginning of) one. Shouldn't such a list be maintained in a Wiki or at least on a web page? 100+ different posts with a few entries don't make sense. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: TODO for etch ?

On Friday 10 June 2005 21.39, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > Hello. > > Is the TODO list for etch available anywhere? It is now. Please help updating it. Because I really mean it, I repeat here the guidelines that I feel can keep this list useful instead

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 12:20:14AM +0200, Giuseppe Sacco wrote: > Il giorno gio, 09-06-2005 alle 19:06 +0200, Frans Pop ha scritto: > > On Thursday 09 June 2005 18:45, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > On Jun 09, Adrian von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Dropping 2.4 can easily be done on relati

Re: Bug#312669: /sbin/ifconfig: Add ifconfig to user path

On Friday 10 June 2005 10.40, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > Hello Olaf, > > On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 02:58:21PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > > ifconfig is in /sbin and only in root's path. But ifconfig is runnable > > and useful for normal users, so it'd be nice if it could be added to > > the path

Re: Canonical and Debian

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 04:50:31PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 05:52:08PM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote: > > Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >>> accusing people of being members of a Canonical-controlled cabal when > > >>> they > > >>> do you the

Re: TODO for etch ?

On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 11:39:16PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > Hello. > > Is the TODO list for etch available anywhere? - multi level configuration for poplular services and some other unpopular ones (needed for cdds) - change policy to allow for automatic reconfiguration of packag

Re: Release team for etch?

* Sebastian Ley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050611 12:17]: > Am Samstag, 11. Juni 2005 07:43 schrieb Steve Langasek: > > > I'm also not really convinced that a 12-month release cycle is actually a > > good idea at this point -- in terms of either setting believable > > expectations, or what users of stab

Re: launchd and lookupd

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2 May 2005, at 9:14 am, martin f krafft wrote: Apple has just released launchd, a init/cron/watchdog/etc. replacement. Has anyone looked at it? It seems like a bit of work to port it to Linux, but then it's also possibly a great tool which could

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

On Jun 11, Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not all packages use/support this. Then they should be fixed. Udev has good reasons to work differently, and the chroot case was fixed a long time ago. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

> "Grzegorz" == Grzegorz B Prokopski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Grzegorz> On Tue, 2005-07-06 at 01:03 +0200, Javier Grzegorz> Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: >> [ Installation improvements ] - Firewall configuration during >> installation (ala Fedora Core or SuSE): module for

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

> "Matthew" == Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Add to the list of daemon related features the "not start >> daemons by default" and wait for the admin to define which ones >> to start from /etc/defaults or whatever. Matthew> Jesus, meet policy-rc.d. Not all pack

Re: cogito no longer conflicts with git or cgvg

Am 2005-06-10 23:21:54, schrieb Sebastian Kuzminsky: > The new cogito package (0.11.3+20050610-1) is on its way into sid. > It does not install /usr/bin/git or /usr/bin/cg, and so it does not > conflict with git or with cgvg. > > I made a note about this in /usr/share/doc/cogito/README.Debian, and

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:35:41 -0500 (CDT), Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > >> Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:38:13 -0500 (CDT), >> Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> > >> >> On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 05:

Re: Architecture restrictions and arch: all binary packages

Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 07:49:25AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> >> For buildds there are 3 mechanisms in place: >> >> 1. no auto list of the buildd >> >> Per buildd setting to avoid packages not suitable for a specific >> buildd (e.g. needs m

Re: cogito no longer conflicts with git or cgvg

On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 11:21:54PM -0600, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > The new cogito package (0.11.3+20050610-1) is on its way into sid. > It does not install /usr/bin/git or /usr/bin/cg, and so it does not > conflict with git or with cgvg. > > I made a note about this in /usr/share/doc/cogito/RE

Re: Architecture restrictions and arch: all binary packages

On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 07:49:25AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > For buildds there are 3 mechanisms in place: > > 1. no auto list of the buildd > > Per buildd setting to avoid packages not suitable for a specific > buildd (e.g. needs more ram/disk than this buildd has). > > 2. not-for

Re: Bug#312669: /sbin/ifconfig: Add ifconfig to user path

Josh Lauricha wrote: > Not that I support replace ifconfig, but: > $ ip -s link > > lists (in a different, but sane, format) everything, but the > non-physical addresses of the links (now thats a dumb omission). The output of ifconfig -a is a unison of ip -s addr and ip -s link, unfortunately

Re: TODO for etch ?

[Nikita V. Youshchenko] > Is the TODO list for etch available anywhere? I'm not aware of any. > - - Improve hardware detection, make sure excluded kernel modules only need to be listed one place. - Replace default syslog-daemon to one capable to storing severity/facility in the log fil

Re: namespace conflict != package Conflict?

On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 07:50:58PM -0600, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > Hi folks, I have a noob question for you. I maintain the Cogito package > (my first), and it wants to install an executable as /usr/bin/git. The > GNU Interactive Tools package (git) also wants to install an executable > as /u