Re: DebianWiki migrated

2009-03-16 Thread Ben Finney
Paul Wise writes: > I'm making an uneducated guess that allowing editing by people we > cannot contact will be bad for licencing the wiki since we need to > contact people to be able to give pages a license. The current > authentication mechanism requires an email address so there is a > decent c

Re: DebianWiki migrated

2009-03-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > I don't see how the use of a different authentication system > intersects with that bug at all. Can you elaborate what you think the > issue is? I'm making an uneducated guess that allowing editing by people we cannot contact will be bad for l

Re: DebianWiki migrated

2009-03-16 Thread Ben Finney
Paul Wise writes: > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Ben Finney > wrote: > > > One of the new features announced in MoinMoin 1.7 is OpenID > > authentication. Could this please be enabled on the Debian wiki? > > That would likely make it much harder to fix #385797 - Wiki does not > have a lic

Re: DebianWiki migrated

2009-03-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Ben Finney wrote: > One of the new features announced in MoinMoin 1.7 is OpenID > authentication. Could this please be enabled on the Debian wiki? That would likely make it much harder to fix #385797 - Wiki does not have a license. I think once we've sorted tha

Re: Bug#520053: ITP: jkmeter -- Jkmeter is a horizontal or vertical audio bargraph level meter

2009-03-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 03:31 +0100, Jaromír Mikeš wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: "Jaromír Mikeš" > > * Package name: jkmeter > Version : 0.4.0-1 > Upstream Author : Fons Adriaensen > * URL : http://www.kokkinizita.net/linuxaudio/downloads/index.ht

Bug#520053: ITP: jkmeter -- Jkmeter is a horizontal or vertical audio bargraph level meter

2009-03-16 Thread Jaromír Mikeš
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Jaromír Mikeš" * Package name: jkmeter Version : 0.4.0-1 Upstream Author : Fons Adriaensen * URL : http://www.kokkinizita.net/linuxaudio/downloads/index.html * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : J

group nvram

2009-03-16 Thread Marco d'Itri
Unless somebody will have persuasive objections I will change it to group kmem in a future udev upgrade. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 22:25 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 01:08:04PM +0100, Bjørn Mork wrote: [...] > > I fail to see the value of removing mii-tool. I'd rather see just the > > non-working features removed in favour of an ethtool recommendation. > > It doesn't recognis

Bug#520045: ITP: libapache2-mod-openpgp -- Apache module to enhance HTTP with OpenPGP features

2009-03-16 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jonathan Wiltshire * Package name: libapache2-mod-openpgp Version : 0.5.0 Upstream Author : Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman * URL : http://wiki.buanzo.org/index.php?n=Main.ModOpenpgp * License : Apache 2.0 Programming Lang:

Bug#520043: ITP: enigform -- Iceweasel/Firefox extension to digitally sign HTTP requests

2009-03-16 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jonathan Wiltshire * Package name: enigform Version : 0.8.1 Upstream Author : Artruro 'Buanzo' Busleiman * URL : http://enigform.mozdev.org/ * License : MPL Programming Lang: Javascript Description : Iceweasel/Fi

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-16 Thread Raphael Geissert
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > ... and pretty please, do not choose a solution that will require > adding an "-include" to 15'000 thousands debian/rules; we will finish > doing that by Lenny+50, the earliest. It would take some time, yes; but packages using cdbs would only require a binNMU once cd

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-16 Thread Raphael Geissert
Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:17:28PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: >> Wouldn't it be better to remove the packages from testing? this way if >> the library and other packages are ready to go they could easily migrate >> without any special hack, if my understanding of the si

libcairo has two different versions in Lenny?

2009-03-16 Thread Michelle Konzack
Fellow Developers, last Friday I have downloaded the fist Debian install DVD fro Lenny and for some mintes trie to install a new Workstation and gotten this: [ STDIN ]--- [r...@michelle1:~ ] apt-get install fvwm Reading package lists...

Re: DebianWiki migrated

2009-03-16 Thread Ben Finney
Frank Lin PIAT writes: > Wiki engine migrated > > > The DebianWiki team is pleased to announce that the wiki is now > running moinmoin 1.7, which brings many new features (see [1] and > [2]). Thanks very much! One of the new features announced in MoinMoin 1.7 is OpenID aut

Re: Mass bugfiling in preparation for multiarch

2009-03-16 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 03:40:53PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Aurelien Jarno writes: > > > If you want to get some more multiarch ennemies, this is clearly the way > > to go. > > > > The alternate method is to post a list to debian-devel, and when we have > > a basic multiarch support, you may

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-16 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 06:41:14PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > * nameif: can be replaced by "ip link", not sure if it's worth the > > effort (does anybody actually use it?) > > Never heard of it, and it seems redundant with udev now. There's also > ifrename. I think udev can now do everyth

Re: DebianWiki migrated

2009-03-16 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 23:33 +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Wiki engine migrated > > > > Thanks for the work! > > > Also, the GUI editor is now disabled, because moinmoin 1.7 use an old > > version of fckeditor which would have been a

Re: Mass bugfiling in preparation for multiarch

2009-03-16 Thread Russ Allbery
Aurelien Jarno writes: > If you want to get some more multiarch ennemies, this is clearly the way > to go. > > The alternate method is to post a list to debian-devel, and when we have > a basic multiarch support, you may start thinking about filling bugs. > Not before. Well, regardless of the be

Re: DebianWiki migrated

2009-03-16 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > Hi all, > > Wiki engine migrated > Thanks for the work! > Also, the GUI editor is now disabled, because moinmoin 1.7 use an old > version of fckeditor which would have been a security problem. We are > working to find a solution. If I remember right

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 01:08:04PM +0100, Bjørn Mork wrote: > Martín Ferrari writes: > > > Problematic tools: > > * mii-tool: it could be dropped and replaced by a pointer to ethtool as > > it's not meant to be used automatically by scripts. On the other hand, > > it's distributed as a stand-alo

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-16 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Adeodato Simó wrote: > As said above, failures to build against the new library are RC from > day 0, and the intention is not to do transitions while those are > open, other constraints permitting. Cool. > As for packages that are rebuilt in unstable but not migrated, I > do

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:45:32PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Mar 16, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > > I think it would be very helpful if somebody could summarize why a > > > multiarch system is useful, except for the obvious case of installing > > > proprietary i386 software on amd64 systems. >

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:17:28PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:48:22AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > >> [I'm personally slightly concerned about relaxing britney allowing > >> testing to get into unreleasable states; a flag to re-enable th

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-16 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Mar 16, Mike Hommey wrote: > > I think it would be very helpful if somebody could summarize why a > > multiarch system is useful, except for the obvious case of installing > > proprietary i386 software on amd64 systems. > s/proprietary// ; there you have your obvious case. Not really, because

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-16 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Hertzog writes: > I think we all mostly agree on that. I see only two remarks: > - the package can either fully override the default settings or > filter the provided build options: i.e. add/remove/replace build > options. (and I think that the "filter" option should be the recommende

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-16 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Tollef Fog Heen said: > ]] Stephen Gran > > | Put another way, I can't think of a valid use for an amd64 binary > | depending on a ppc32 binary. > > Package: foo > Depends: sed > > (sed is Essential: yes, but I think you get the point.) I don't see what the archite

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-16 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 02:36:17PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Aurelien Jarno writes: > > > Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : > >> Aurelien Jarno writes: > >> > >>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 09:55:33PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:16:47PM +0100, Tollef Fog

Re: Mass bugfiling in preparation for multiarch

2009-03-16 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:11:35PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Hi, > > over the weekend I did some work on multiarch again and did notice > some new and old problems when adding more libraries to my test set. > > Given that the problems are quite easily detectable I'm considering > scann

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-16 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Stephen Gran | Put another way, I can't think of a valid use for an amd64 binary | depending on a ppc32 binary. Package: foo Depends: sed (sed is Essential: yes, but I think you get the point.) -- Tollef Fog Heen Redpill Linpro -- Changing the game! t: +47 21 54 41 73 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > And you are missing the point that making people type stuff on > the command line for site specific stuff looses out to being able to > edit a conffile instead. Who said the command line was for site-specific stuff? In my proposition the h

Re: DebianWiki migrated

2009-03-16 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 21:29 +0100, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > > Wiki engine migrated > I completely forgot to thanks and give credits to Valessio Brito for his DebianWiki logo. http://wiki.debian.org/htdocs/WikiDebianLogo_B.png This is now fixed. Regards, Franklin -- To

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > The advantage of the snippet approach is where packages might > break if the builtin defaults are changed will not be broken by the > snippet approach, since the change is opt-in. Once a package relies on values provided by a Makefile snippe

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
> I think it's clearly mandatory to implement a hierarchy of settings: > > * Debian defaults > * Local distribution overrides > * Local package overrides > * User settings > > where each overrides the previous ones. I think we all mostly agree on that. I see only two remarks: - the package can e

DebianWiki migrated

2009-03-16 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
Hi all, Wiki engine migrated The DebianWiki team is pleased to announce that the wiki is now running moinmoin 1.7, which brings many new features (see [1] and [2]). The syntax on how to make links and use attachments have changed in moinmoin 1.6, see: http://wiki.debian.org

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Mar 16 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: > Raphael Hertzog writes: > >> You're not trying very hard to look from both sides: whether the default >> value comes from the environment or from an included Makefile, in both >> cases the user can override it with command-line arguments. >> >> Granted i

Re: Bug#518494: ITP: pythm -- media players (e.g. mpd, gstreamer, mplayer) GUI frontend

2009-03-16 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
I am sorry Luca that I have missed your email. Looking at it now I realize that it came at the hottest time -- I was about to submit my PhD dissertation, so my mind was fully occupied with other things ;) > On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:25:16 +0100, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > > * Package name: pyth

Re: generating man pages from docbook

2009-03-16 Thread Hilmar Preusse
On 16.03.09 Adeodato Simó (d...@net.com.org.es) wrote: > * Norbert Preining [Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:24:15 +0100]: > > On Mo, 16 Mär 2009, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > On Mar 16, Hilmar Preusse wrote: Hi, > > > > Hmm, weird. jadetex is architecture all and haven't changed for a > > > > while. Could you

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Mar 16 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> > However, if the caller really wish that his build options prevail in >> > all cases, he can use "make -e" (and dpkg-buildpackage has the -R >> > option that let him call "debian/rules" as "make -e -f de

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-16 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Hertzog writes: > You're not trying very hard to look from both sides: whether the default > value comes from the environment or from an included Makefile, in both > cases the user can override it with command-line arguments. > > Granted it means that dpkg-buildpackage would have to pass

Bug#519993: ITP: wbar -- a light and fast launch bar

2009-03-16 Thread Krzysztof Burghardt
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Krzysztof Burghardt * Package name: wbar Version : 1.3.3 Upstream Author : Rodolfo Granata * URL : http://code.google.com/p/wbar/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : a light and fast launch bar w

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-16 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 09:14:32AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sun, 15 Mar 2009, Stephen Gran wrote: > > This one time, at band camp, Raphael Hertzog said: > > > Care to elaborate what kind of flexibility you need in this specific case > > > ? > > > > I don't. I'm imagining that some of o

Re: toolame: remove from unstable, update in stable

2009-03-16 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Fabian Greffrath (16/03/2009): > Unfortunately IANADD, so I cannot modify the wiki page on my own. Yes, you can! Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-16 Thread Raphael Geissert
Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:48:22AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > >> [I'm personally slightly concerned about relaxing britney allowing >> testing to get into unreleasable states; a flag to re-enable the old >> behavoir late in release would probably be good.] > > In pract

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-16 Thread James Vega
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 06:37:40PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Suppose you have "FOO ?= bar" in the Makefile, write me the rest of the > Makefile so that I have this: > $ FOO=foo make > FOO was set in the environment > $ make FOO=foo > FOO was set on the command-line > $ make > FOO was set in t

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Mar 16 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> In the non-snippet method proposed, there is no way for the >> package maintainer to override project defaults yet cater user set >> variable settings, since the information is lost. > > You're

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > However, if the caller really wish that his build options prevail in > > all cases, he can use "make -e" (and dpkg-buildpackage has the -R > > option that let him call "debian/rules" as "make -e -f debian/rules" > > instead). > > We do not w

Re: generating man pages from docbook

2009-03-16 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mo, 16 Mär 2009, Adeodato Simó wrote: > jadetex is uninstallable on arches where texlive-bin is not available > yet rebuilt against libpoppler4. Which is only s390, which is waiting > for an upload. Ok, I can live with that. If there are more fundamental problems with s390 please ask again. B

Re: generating man pages from docbook

2009-03-16 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Norbert Preining [Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:24:15 +0100]: > On Mo, 16 Mär 2009, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > On Mar 16, Hilmar Preusse wrote: > > > Hmm, weird. jadetex is architecture all and haven't changed for a > > > while. Could you find out, why it can't be installed? > > I hoped that somebody here w

Re: generating man pages from docbook

2009-03-16 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mo, 16 Mär 2009, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Mar 16, Hilmar Preusse wrote: > > Hmm, weird. jadetex is architecture all and haven't changed for a > > while. Could you find out, why it can't be installed? > I hoped that somebody here would tell me... Aehm sorry I lost this track completely. Can som

Re: generating man pages from docbook

2009-03-16 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Mar 16, Hilmar Preusse wrote: > Hmm, weird. jadetex is architecture all and haven't changed for a > while. Could you find out, why it can't be installed? I hoped that somebody here would tell me... -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > In the non-snippet method proposed, there is no way for the > package maintainer to override project defaults yet cater user set > variable settings, since the information is lost. You're not trying very hard to look from both sides: whether

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Mar 16 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Bdale Garbee wrote: >> >> > I think he ment that you can not know wether the setting comes from >> > dpkg-buildpackage or the user. If it comes from dpkg-buildpackage then >> > debian/rules should be free to override it as needed.

Re: Bug#466550: Pristine source from upstream VCS repository

2009-03-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Mar 16 2009, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > In a sense, while uscan offers an implementation, the policy offer its > API. The two are complementary and I don't see why I should loose one > because of the other. > > Also, having an API, offers exactly encapsulation, in the sense that > you ca

Re: generating man pages from docbook

2009-03-16 Thread Hilmar Preusse
On 16.03.09 Marco d'Itri (m...@linux.it) wrote: Hi, > I never received an answer from the docbook-to-man maintainers, so > I switched to docbook-utils which works correctly but I found out is > uninstallable on four architectures. What should I do? > Hmm, weird. jadetex is architecture all and h

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-16 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Goswin von Brederlow said: > 1) How to specify an arch in sources.list? Don't. Specify it in apt.conf > Suggestion: > deb [arch=i386,amd64] http://ftp.debian.org sid main APT::Arches "i386,amd64" Or something. > 2) How to specify a package including the architectu

Processed: Re: Processed: Re: Bug#519902: Dist-upgrade to lenny broke cvs and apt, cannot recover.

2009-03-16 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 519902 upgrade-reports Bug#519902: Dist-upgrade to lenny broke cvs and apt, cannot recover. Bug reassigned from package `general' to `upgrade-reports'. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Debian

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Mar 16 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sun, 15 Mar 2009, Bill Allombert wrote: >> There is no documented semantic for CFLAGS et. al. in Debian policy. While >> some Makefile handle it in a certain way, this is not mandatory in >> any way. For example some configure scripts append option

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Roger Leigh writes: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 02:36:17PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Aurelien Jarno writes: >> >> > Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : >> >> Aurelien Jarno writes: >> >> >> >>> One of the goal of multiarch is to avoid having packages containing >> >>> binaries of a diffe

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes: > On Mar 16, Simon Richter wrote: > >> Well, it would get i386/amd64 in line with sparc/sparc64, powerpc/powerpc64 >> and s390/s390x. That would allow us to get rid of a lot of specianl cases, >> including the hack for libc6-386. I don't see sparc/sparc64, po

Re: generating man pages from docbook

2009-03-16 Thread Marco d'Itri
I never received an answer from the docbook-to-man maintainers, so I switched to docbook-utils which works correctly but I found out is uninstallable on four architectures. What should I do? Maybe the jadetex dependency should be downgraded to Recommends since it's only needed for some output forma

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-16 Thread Ian Campbell
On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 14:36 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Note that libc6 and libc6-i386/amd64 will neccessarily always conflict > due to the dynamic linker Really? I thought the i386 dynamic linker was /lib/ld-linux.so.2 and the 64 bit one was /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2. Ian. -- Ian Ca

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-16 Thread Michael Poole
m...@linux.it writes: > On Mar 16, Simon Richter wrote: > >> Well, it would get i386/amd64 in line with sparc/sparc64, powerpc/powerpc64 >> and s390/s390x. That would allow us to get rid of a lot of specianl cases, >> including the hack for libc6-386. > I think it would be very helpful if somebod

Re: Mass bugfiling in preparation for multiarch

2009-03-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Josselin Mouette writes: > Le lundi 16 mars 2009 à 12:11 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : >> Example: libgtk2.0-0 contains /etc/gtk-2.0/im-multipress.conf >> >> For this I want to file bugs (on top of violations of the MUST >> directive) requesting that either the conffile is split into a >

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-16 Thread David Bremner
Mike Hommey wrote: >On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 03:21:44PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: >> I think it would be very helpful if somebody could summarize why a >> multiarch system is useful, except for the obvious case of installing >> proprietary i386 software on amd64 systems. >s/proprietary// ; ther

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 03:21:44PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Mar 16, Simon Richter wrote: > > > Well, it would get i386/amd64 in line with sparc/sparc64, powerpc/powerpc64 > > and s390/s390x. That would allow us to get rid of a lot of specianl cases, > > including the hack for libc6-386. >

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-16 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Mar 16, Simon Richter wrote: > Well, it would get i386/amd64 in line with sparc/sparc64, powerpc/powerpc64 > and s390/s390x. That would allow us to get rid of a lot of specianl cases, > including the hack for libc6-386. I think it would be very helpful if somebody could summarize why a multiar

Re: Bug#519957: ITP: amap -- Next-generation tool for assisting network penetration testing

2009-03-16 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:58:11PM +1100, Nima Talebi a écrit : > > * Package name: amap > Version : 5.2 > Upstream Author : van Hauser , Dj RevMoon > > * URL : http://freeworld.thc.org/thc-amap/ > * License : GPL2 > Programming Lang: C > Description :

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 01:55:40PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > > > We are not using multiarch paths in Debian, so this has never happens. > > > When using standard /usr/lib paths, people are expecting that the paths > > > collide. When using multiarch they do not expect that, as it the goal of > >

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-16 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 02:36:17PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Aurelien Jarno writes: > > > Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : > >> Aurelien Jarno writes: > >> > >>> One of the goal of multiarch is to avoid having packages containing > >>> binaries of a different architecture than the one

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Aurelien Jarno writes: > Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : >> Aurelien Jarno writes: >> >>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 09:55:33PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:16:47PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Clint Adams > | It may be time to change packages installi

Re: Grid tasks

2009-03-16 Thread Steffen Moeller
Hi Chris, Chris Walker wrote: > I propose we (Debian-science) create two grid tasks packages: > > Grid-client: This would contain the packages a user workstation needs to > submit jobs to the grid. > > Grid-server: Packages for running a grid cluster. > > The globus packages recently proposed

Bug#519957: ITP: amap -- Next-generation tool for assisting network penetration testing

2009-03-16 Thread Nima Talebi
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Nima Talebi * Package name: amap Version : 5.2 Upstream Author : van Hauser , Dj RevMoon * URL : http://freeworld.thc.org/thc-amap/ * License : GPL2 Programming Lang: C Description : Next-generation tool for assi

Re: Splitting of the gnome-python* source packages - MBF

2009-03-16 Thread Adeodato Simó
> Clement Lorteau >gtkvncviewer I filed #518000 a while ago about this, heh. But the bug report needs updating to say that python-gconf exists on its own, and that gtkvncviewer should depend on that instead of python-gnome2. Cheers, -- - Are you sure we're good? - Always. -- Rory a

Splitting of the gnome-python* source packages - MBF

2009-03-16 Thread Josselin Mouette
Hi, the gnome-python, gnome-python-desktop and gnome-python-extras packages are collections of Python modules that are not necessarily related. It was more and more requested to split them more logically, and this is what I have done now that upstream plans are a bit clearer. According to the cha

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-16 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 09:04:30PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > * either we modify policy to mandate the set of environment variables that > dpkg-buildpackage sets > In terms of efforts, the first solution is the easiest. But we aim > at the _right_ solution so feel free to design something t

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-16 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:27:47PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 05:57:32PM +0100, Simon Richter wrote: > > That is actually beneficial if we wanted to merge both architectures into > > one, which would IMO be the sanest thing to do, > IMO that's not a sane thing to

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-16 Thread Richard Atterer
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:48:22AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > [I'm personally slightly concerned about relaxing britney allowing > testing to get into unreleasable states; a flag to re-enable the old > behavoir late in release would probably be good.] Adeodato's proposal makes a lot of sense,

Re: Mass bugfiling in preparation for multiarch

2009-03-16 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 16 mars 2009 à 12:11 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : > Example: libgtk2.0-0 contains /etc/gtk-2.0/im-multipress.conf > > For this I want to file bugs (on top of violations of the MUST > directive) requesting that either the conffile is split into a > seperate package (say you alread

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-16 Thread Bjørn Mork
Martín Ferrari writes: > Problematic tools: > * mii-tool: it could be dropped and replaced by a pointer to ethtool as > it's not meant to be used automatically by scripts. On the other hand, > it's distributed as a stand-alone tool [0] and we could do the same. A couple of notes: mii-tool and

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve Langasek writes: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:55:36AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Josselin Mouette writes: > >> > Le dimanche 15 mars 2009 à 01:30 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : >> >> Say you have acrobat reader installed which depend on ia32-libs-gtk. >> >> You also have

Re: Bug#466550: Pristine source from upstream VCS repository

2009-03-16 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 06:48:11PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Given that we already have a tool that can download upstream > sources, with or without mangling, and can be used by facilities > outside of the unpacked Debian source package to determine if there was > new versions and

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-16 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Steve Langasek [Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:55:50 -0700]: Hello, Steve. > On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 04:44:08PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > > Now, this has its own set of problems and caveats as well, since if you > > don’t pay attention and take care of later cleanup, you end up with > > packages in te

Bug#509850: ITP : haskell-curl -- Haskell bindings to the libcurl URL transfer library

2009-03-16 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Package: wnpp Followup-For: Bug #509850 Owner: Erik de Castro Lopo * Package name: haskell-curl Version : 1.3.4 Upstream Author : Sigbjorn Finne * URL or Web page : http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/curl * License : BSD3 Description : GHC

Mass bugfiling in preparation for multiarch

2009-03-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi, over the weekend I did some work on multiarch again and did notice some new and old problems when adding more libraries to my test set. Given that the problems are quite easily detectable I'm considering scanning all packages for their occurance and reporting bugs for them. In detail I'm look

Processed: Re: Bug#519902: Dist-upgrade to lenny broke cvs and apt, cannot recover.

2009-03-16 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 519902 general Bug#519902: Dist-upgrade to lenny broke cvs and apt, cannot recover. Warning: Unknown package 'libc' Bug reassigned from package `libc' to `general'. > -- Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance

Processed: Re: Processed: Re: Bug#519837: Debian 5.0 - Cups -Canon Pixma iP3500 installation printing failure

2009-03-16 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 519837 cups Bug#519837: Debian 5.0 - Cups -Canon Pixma iP3500 installation printing failure Bug reassigned from package `general' to `cups'. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Debian bug tracki

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-16 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : > Aurelien Jarno writes: > >> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 09:55:33PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: >>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:16:47PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Clint Adams | It may be time to change packages installing files to | /emul/ia32-lin

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:55:36AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Josselin Mouette writes: > > Le dimanche 15 mars 2009 à 01:30 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : > >> Say you have acrobat reader installed which depend on ia32-libs-gtk. > >> You also have libgtk2.0 (i386) installed with

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Raphael Hertzog writes: > On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> 3. dpkg-buildpackage is probably the wrong place to put this solution >> in. > > Why? > >> The fact that dpkg-buildpackage's setting the variables is not >> easily configurable, and presents to make as though

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Aurelien Jarno writes: > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 09:55:33PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:16:47PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: >> > ]] Clint Adams >> >> > | It may be time to change packages installing files to >> > | /emul/ia32-linux (which violates the FHS) to us

Re: Breaking /emul/ia32-linux for squeeze

2009-03-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Josselin Mouette writes: > Le dimanche 15 mars 2009 à 01:30 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : >> Say you have acrobat reader installed which depend on ia32-libs-gtk. >> You also have libgtk2.0 (i386) installed with a newer version that >> breaks acrobat reader (like it did last year). Then ac

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-16 Thread Felipe Sateler
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Note that I'm not asking to mandate the tool. I would like to mandate the > fact that packages can rely on some environment variables being set to > some values. Note that packages will not necessarily pickup the environment variables. autoconf using packages will probabl

Lenny security hardening features

2009-03-16 Thread Danny Richards
Hi, It is written here < http://wiki.debian.org/NewInLenny#head-6e41dc18abd5f3c10b59000dabaf1f6b2ab7cad8 > that "some packages" in Lenny were built with GCC hardening features. Is there any documentation about: 1. Which packages were built this way ? 2. Which features were used ? Thanks, Dan

Re: Bug#466550: Pristine source from upstream VCS repository

2009-03-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Mar 16 2009, Ben Finney wrote: > Manoj Srivastava writes: > >> I would not be against a recommendation in policy to implement >> direct-from-vcs upstream tarballs to be created vbia get-orig-source, >> and everyone else just use debian/watch and debian/urepack files. > > Okay,

Re: toolame: remove from unstable, update in stable

2009-03-16 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Luk Claes schrieb: It's ok, please mention the portability bugs on [0] and upload. Unfortunately IANADD, so I cannot modify the wiki page on my own. The closed bugs are #504308 and #506193. Maybe someone can do me the favor and add them on the wiki page once the package has been uploaded.

Re: Bug#466550: Pristine source from upstream VCS repository

2009-03-16 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Ben Finney writes: > Ben Hutchings writes: > >> # Upstream homepage links to a file called puzzles.tar.gz which >> # redirects to puzzles-r$version.tar.gz. uscan can't check that. >> # However, this is a nightly snapshot numbered according to the SVN >> # revision number, so we can extract the

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009, Stephen Gran wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Raphael Hertzog said: > > Care to elaborate what kind of flexibility you need in this specific case ? > > I don't. I'm imagining that some of our downstreams may. It's precisely one of our downstreams that pushed the dpkg-bu

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009, Bill Allombert wrote: > There is no documented semantic for CFLAGS et. al. in Debian policy. While > some Makefile handle it in a certain way, this is not mandatory in > any way. For example some configure scripts append options to CFLAGS while > other will not change it if it

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:48:22AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > [I'm personally slightly concerned about relaxing britney allowing > testing to get into unreleasable states; a flag to re-enable the old > behavoir late in release would probably be good.] In practice, the release team has to do th

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-16 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 04:44:08PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > > Now, this has its own set of problems and caveats as well, since > > if you don’t pay attention and take care of later cleanup, you end > > up with packages in testing that do not belong

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