On Sun, 10 May 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I would prefer Debian to remain a full fledged member of the free
software community, and continue to not let build behaviour diverge
whether or not dpkg-buildpackage was used -- which can be a substancial
resource hog for multiple binary
On Monday 11 May 2009 00:06:09 Steve Langasek wrote:
Or maybe I've misunderstood, and there are
Debian developers who are building official packages for *upload* by
calling debian/rules by hand, and that's what people are concerned about
preserving while still getting the benefits of these
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:32:40AM -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2009 17:36:02 +0200
m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote:
I have been told by upstream maintainers of one of my packages and
by prominent developers of other distributions that supporting a
standalone
On Sun, 10 May 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
If there's any intention at all that Policy eventually mandate use of
these Makefile includes, then at a minimum I think Policy needs to
*very* tightly constrain what dpkg is allowed to put in those files,
to avoid future incompatibilities.
On Mon, 11 May 2009, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
Well, debuild calls dpkg-buildpackage most of the time, unless you give a
specific target (which would again possibly be of interest to those who are
interested in calling debian/rules by hand for some reason). And that is also
something newish.
On Monday 11 May 2009 07:45:02 Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Changing defaults with a large installed base begs the
question: Why? Random churn for churns sake is not the answer.
But upgrades would (should?) keep exim installed. A new default would only
affect new installations.
--
To
On Monday 11 May 2009 09:49:31 Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Mon, 11 May 2009, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
Well, debuild calls dpkg-buildpackage most of the time, unless you give a
specific target (which would again possibly be of interest to those who
are interested in calling debian/rules by hand
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Erik de Castro Lopo er...@mega-nerd.com
* Package name: haskell-bzlib
Version : 0.5.0.0
Upstream Author : Duncan Coutts dun...@haskell.org
* URL :
http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/bzlib
* License
On 2009-05-11, Brian May b...@snoopy.debian.net wrote:
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 11:31:07PM +0200, Jens Peter Secher wrote:
+1 for ssmtp
I found ssmtp couldn't cope with mail my various systems were
generating, something about fixed maximum buffer lengths from memory.
Please not ssmtp. If I
Hi all,
I am packaging the new hylafax version, 6.0. Now that Lenny has been
released I am taking squeeze as base distribution, but I would also give
support to older distribution. Starting from sarge, all users where
strongly advised to update to 2.6 kernel; etch and lenny started
delivering
Philipp Kern tr...@philkern.de writes:
On 2009-05-11, Brian May b...@snoopy.debian.net wrote:
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 11:31:07PM +0200, Jens Peter Secher wrote:
+1 for ssmtp
I found ssmtp couldn't cope with mail my various systems were
generating, something about fixed maximum buffer lengths
On Mon, 11 May 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
A separate /usr *is* the way to go if you don't want any writes in
that filesystem 99.9% of the time (i.e. when you're not doing an
upgrade).
A read-only / does the trick just as well. And if you don't want
writes to /usr you probably
Travis Crump wrote:
Daniel Burrows wrote:
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 02:58:56PM -0700, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org
was heard to say:
I think that lintian warning is the right way to do it.
I don't -- I think there are too many false positives for a lintian
warning given the thread. I also
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org writes:
On Mon, 11 May 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
A separate /usr *is* the way to go if you don't want any writes in
that filesystem 99.9% of the time (i.e. when you're not doing an
upgrade).
A read-only / does the trick just as well.
* Simon Josefsson si...@josefsson.org, 2009-05-11, 12:55:
+1 for ssmtp
I found ssmtp couldn't cope with mail my various systems were
generating, something about fixed maximum buffer lengths from memory.
Please not ssmtp. If I recall it correctly I found no way to get it
to send mail to a
On Mon, 11 May 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
A read-only / should work out of the box just like a read-only /usr. I
haven't installed a fresh one in a long while though so if you know of
problems speak up so bugs can be filed and packages can be fixed.
Last time I tried it, /etc was a
On May 11, Giuseppe Sacco giuse...@eppesuigoccas.homedns.org wrote:
delivering packages that do not work with kernel 2.4. Now I believe that
2.4 kernel is no more supported.
This has been true since lenny.
With 2.6 kernels, we may use the bind option in order to mount
a /etc/hylafax on
Il giorno lun, 11/05/2009 alle 15.06 +0200, Marco d'Itri ha scritto:
[...]
With 2.6 kernels, we may use the bind option in order to mount
a /etc/hylafax on /var/spool/hylafax/etc. So, I am finally moving to
this new configuration, but I have a few concern that I would like to
share,
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org writes:
Hi,
On Sonntag, 10. Mai 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
With the include approach, we lack this feature and bad/broken local
overrides can't be detected if we only have the build log at hand.
which reminds me that we dont
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 09:59:36AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Mon, 11 May 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
A read-only / should work out of the box just like a read-only /usr. I
haven't installed a fresh one in a long while though so if you know of
problems speak up so
Jakub Wilk uba...@users.sf.net writes:
* Simon Josefsson si...@josefsson.org, 2009-05-11, 12:55:
+1 for ssmtp
I found ssmtp couldn't cope with mail my various systems were
generating, something about fixed maximum buffer lengths from memory.
Please not ssmtp. If I recall it correctly I
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Sun, May 10 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 11:37:46PM +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
On Sunday 10 May 2009 13:56:04 Steve Langasek wrote:
I thought it was generally recognized that it's a Bad Idea to implement
config files using your
On Fri, 8 May 2009, Lucas Nussbaum wrote in [1]:
Those tasks are read from the Packages files (the Task: field that some
entries have). I'm not sure how this field is managed.
When trying to track down the origin of the task column in UDD[1] I learned
that it is just copied from the task
On Mon, May 11 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org writes:
On Mon, 11 May 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
A separate /usr *is* the way to go if you don't want any writes in
that filesystem 99.9% of the time (i.e. when you're not doing an
On Mon, May 11 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Sun, 10 May 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I would prefer Debian to remain a full fledged member of the free
software community, and continue to not let build behaviour diverge
whether or not dpkg-buildpackage was used -- which can be a
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 09:20:44AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Mon, May 11 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org writes:
On Mon, 11 May 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
A separate /usr *is* the way to go if you don't want any writes in
Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org writes:
BTW, just to make things clear. It's likely that those Makefile
snippet (if we decide to go that way) become quite more elaborated as
we try integrating support for things like hardening-wrapper (see
#489771). Expect stuff like if debian/control has
Giacomo A. Catenazzi c...@debian.org writes:
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
The only builds Debian supports are not just the buildd ones. As
members of the free software community, we should also cater to end
users building, tweaking, and rebuilding our software.
You are a very special
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 03:43:41PM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
You are a very special case: a developer since very long time, with a
enormous knowledge of debian policy (and dpkg internal).
But I really think that most people outside DD use dpkg-buildpackage
because it is the easier
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Mikhail Lukyanchenko m...@uptimebox.ru
* Package name: python-django-djapian
Version : 2.2.1
* URL : http://code.google.com/p/djapian/
* License : BSD
Programming Lang: Python
Description : Search API for Django
Intel and Nokia are pleased to jointly announce the oFono project
(http://ofono.org), an open source project for developing an open source
telephony solution.
oFono.org is a place to bring developers together around designing an
infrastructure for building mobile telephony (GSM/UMTS)
* Simon Josefsson si...@josefsson.org, 2009-05-11, 15:06:
What about msmtp? http://msmtp.sourceforge.net/
AFAIK msmtp does not support local mail delivery.
I suspect that is part of the design goal of msmtp. Local mail delivery
can be handled by other tools, can't it? Generally, it seems
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Dominik George d...@naturalnik.de
* Package name: twittare
Version : 0.7.42
Upstream Author : TabaréCaorsi lucifers.preac...@gmail.com
* URL : http://www.twittare.com/
* License : GPL-3+
Programming Lang: C++
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 04:38:59PM +0100, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net
wrote:
There's a patch for /etc/mtab elimination; it's totally unneeded nowadays.
More than unneeded, it is absolutely irrelevant when using mount namespaces.
Mike
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Ben Finney dijo [Wed, May 06, 2009 at 04:31:02PM +1000]:
[no answers for this yet on ‘debian-mentors’, so trying here]
Howdy all,
I have an upstream for a package who has started using a VCS hosting
site for publishing the code. It's possible they will continue to make
tarball releases,
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes:
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 09:59:36AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Mon, 11 May 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
A read-only / should work out of the box just like a read-only /usr. I
haven't installed a fresh one in a long while though
Y Giridhar Appaji Nag wrote:
Hi debian-devel,
From policy 7.2 Binary Dependencies - Depends, Recommends, Suggests, Enhances,
Pre-Depends
Recommends
This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency.
The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together
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Maintainer: Jonas Genannt jonas.gena...@capi2name.de
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