On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 08:43:07PM +0200, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote:
Hello!
Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez has written on Saturday, 24 November, at 19:20:
FYI, Yet another episode of the Linux init drama:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Specs/RaringUpstartUserSessions
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:48:27PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
https://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailarchive/lau/2012/11/21/194431
There is a rather bad smell regarding all this.
None of the systemd advocates ever mentioned for example the real
reason why it uses such an ugly configuration
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:
clone 665334 -1
Bug #665334 [general] A lot of type 1 fonts include Adobe all right reserved
code
Bug 665334 cloned as bug 694308
reassign 665334 fontforge
Bug #665334 [general] A lot of type 1 fonts include Adobe all right reserved
code
Bug
Hi,
I plan to fill a mass bug filling due to a proprietary code of adobe
in fonts hinting that is included in our fonts.
In my local debian box the following package are affected:
gsfonts
gsfonts-x11
lmodern
tex-gyre
xfonts-mathml
At least due to #665334 all fontforge generated fonts are
Bastien ROUCARIES roucaries.bast...@gmail.com writes:
I plan to fill a mass bug filling due to a proprietary code of adobe
in fonts hinting that is included in our fonts.
If you report them at this stage of the release cycle and there's no
easy solution I guess wheezy-ignore could be in order?
Absolutely rediculous.
Prove Adobe did not give up rights by contributing them years ago.
Prove Adobe did not give up rights by ignoring 7 years.
Prove Adobe did not use these as a way to sell more fonts CD to Linux
users.
* Prove you even have legal say or
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 07:09:42AM -0500, John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell
wrote:
Absolutely rediculous.
Prove Adobe did not give up rights by contributing them years ago.
Prove Adobe did not give up rights by ignoring 7 years.
Prove Adobe did not use these as a way
Quoting Bastien ROUCARIES (roucaries.bast...@gmail.com):
Hi,
I plan to fill a mass bug filling due to a proprietary code of adobe
in fonts hinting that is included in our fonts.
Sure, it's a good idea to delay the release a little bit more, again.
/me sometime secretly hopes that
Processing control commands:
block -1 by 694308
Bug #694320 [gsfonts] [gsfonts] Fonts include copyrighted adobe fragment all
right reserved
694320 was not blocked by any bugs.
694320 was not blocking any bugs.
Added blocking bug(s) of 694320: 694308
--
694320:
Processing control commands:
block -1 by 694308
Bug #694321 [gsfonts] [gsfonts] Fonts include copyrighted adobe fragment all
right reserved
694321 was not blocked by any bugs.
694321 was not blocking any bugs.
Added blocking bug(s) of 694321: 694308
--
694321:
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 02:34:34PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
If there is code in a font that has a license attached to it which does
not meet the DFSG, then it should go out of Debian; not because we're
not allowed to keep it in Debian by the author of said code, but because
we don't
Processing control commands:
block -1 by 694308
Bug #694323 [lmodern] [gsfonts] Fonts include copyrighted adobe fragment all
right reserved
694323 was not blocked by any bugs.
694323 was not blocking any bugs.
Added blocking bug(s) of 694323: 694308
--
694323:
Processing control commands:
block -1 by 694308
Bug #694324 [tex-gyre] Fonts include copyrighted adobe fragment all right
reserved
694324 was not blocked by any bugs.
694324 was not blocking any bugs.
Added blocking bug(s) of 694324: 694308
--
694324:
Processing control commands:
block -1 by 694308
Bug #694325 [xfonts-mathml] Fonts include copyrighted adobe fragment all right
reserved
694325 was not blocked by any bugs.
694325 was not blocking any bugs.
Added blocking bug(s) of 694325: 694308
--
694325:
Hi,
First, I'm registered to the list. So please *do not* Cc: me.
On 11/25/2012 03:35 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 12:52:47PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 11/25/2012 12:15 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
They're constantly claiming, for example, that
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 02:07:03PM +, Bart Martens wrote:
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 02:34:34PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
If there is code in a font that has a license attached to it which does
not meet the DFSG, then it should go out of Debian; not because we're
not allowed to keep it
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 02:39:58PM +0100, Christian PERRIER wrote:
Quoting Bastien ROUCARIES (roucaries.bast...@gmail.com):
Hi,
I plan to fill a mass bug filling due to a proprietary code of adobe
in fonts hinting that is included in our fonts.
Sure, it's a good idea to delay the
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org
* Package name: perl-cross-debian
Version : 0.0.1
Upstream Author : Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org
* URL : https://github.com/codehelp/perl-cross-debian
* License : GPL
Programming
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:16:27PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Yes, lots of
udev stuff are moving to /usr, and this is a fact. Yes, lots of
things are annoying in the merge for someone who wishes to use
udev alone, and not systemd. That is a fact as well.
There is tons of stuff that
On 11/25/2012 01:30 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
Why? Why would you want to rip such low-level stuff apart?
Well, isn't it the opposite thing that is happening? Such low-level
stuff are being merged (with systemd+udev merge), they were
separated projects before.
So, I'd rather ask you:
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:52:58PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 11/25/2012 01:30 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
Why? Why would you want to rip such low-level stuff apart?
Well, isn't it the opposite thing that is happening? Such low-level
stuff are being merged (with systemd+udev
On Sun, 25 Nov 2012, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:48:27PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
https://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailarchive/lau/2012/11/21/194431
There is a rather bad smell regarding all this.
None of the systemd advocates ever mentioned for example
On 11/25/2012 02:19 AM, Russ Allbery wrote:
I really wish people would stop having this debate.
It is completely pointless for us to argue here over whether or not the
fork will be successful. The outcome of that argument is completely
irrelevant to the world: even if we all decide that the
On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 13:06 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Sun, 25 Nov 2012, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:48:27PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
https://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailarchive/lau/2012/11/21/194431
There is a rather bad smell
On 25/11/2012 23:06, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
The:
[crap]
foo = bar
format for config files is widely despised. And this is not a systemd
issue, even git uses that crap instead of something better like xml,
or simpler, like the hierarchical format used by apt that resembles
* Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl [121125 15:20]:
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 02:07:03PM +, Bart Martens wrote:
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 02:34:34PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
If there is code in a font that has a license attached to it which does
not meet the DFSG, then it should go
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org, 2012-11-25, 13:06:
The:
[crap]
foo = bar
format for config files is widely despised. And this is not a systemd
issue, even git uses that crap instead of something better like xml, or
simpler, like the hierarchical format used by apt that
On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 23:30:01 +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
[...] and the hierarchical format
that apt uses doesn't have a readily-usable parser outside of apt (at
least not that I know of).
W/o getting into the debate of what format is better or nicer, the
configuration format from which
On 11/25/2012 02:39 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote:
Quoting Bastien ROUCARIES (roucaries.bast...@gmail.com):
Hi,
I plan to fill a mass bug filling due to a proprietary code of
adobe in fonts hinting that is included in our fonts.
Sure, it's a good idea to delay the release a little bit
On 11/25/2012 10:42 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
Besides, can you elaborate what is so important in having /usr
separate? I see that it made sense back on the old Unix workstations
where you could split partitions across different disks, but I don't
see the point nowadays where a cheap
On Sun, 25 Nov 2012, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 11/25/2012 02:19 AM, Russ Allbery wrote:
I really wish people would stop having this debate.
It is completely pointless for us to argue here over whether or not the
fork will be successful. The outcome of that argument is completely
irrelevant to
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 04:48:04PM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote:
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org, 2012-11-25, 13:06:
The:
[crap]
foo = bar
format for config files is widely despised. And this is not a
systemd issue, even git uses that crap instead of something better
like xml,
Quoting Mehdi Dogguy (me...@dogguy.org):
On 11/25/2012 02:39 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote:
Quoting Bastien ROUCARIES (roucaries.bast...@gmail.com):
Hi,
I plan to fill a mass bug filling due to a proprietary code of
adobe in fonts hinting that is included in our fonts.
Sure, it's a
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 01:08:31AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
So please just keep in mind that this is annoying
some others, and if you don't feel annoyed, just
live with the fact you aren't alone in this world, and
that some of us prefer a separated /usr partition.
Based on which
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 06:49:45PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 01:08:31AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
So please just keep in mind that this is annoying
some others, and if you don't feel annoyed, just
live with the fact you aren't alone in this world,
On 11/26/2012 01:49 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
Debian dropped support for m68k and Alpha and
deprived users of their freedom to run Debian on these platforms with
the latest supported software. But these architectures weren't dropped
because they wanted to take away people's freedoms
On Nov 23, 2012, at 03:06 PM, YunQiang Su wrote:
you always need to build for one arch and test, then why not upload it?
I think there are a lot of good reasons to do source-only uploads, even when
you should be building locally for testing purposes.
* Reproducibility - buildds provide a more
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Mehdi Dogguy me...@dogguy.org wrote:
On 11/25/2012 02:39 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote:
Quoting Bastien ROUCARIES (roucaries.bast...@gmail.com):
Hi,
I plan to fill a mass bug filling due to a proprietary code of
adobe in fonts hinting that is included in our
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 06:43:41PM +0100, Christian PERRIER wrote:
Quoting Mehdi Dogguy (me...@dogguy.org):
On 11/25/2012 02:39 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote:
Quoting Bastien ROUCARIES (roucaries.bast...@gmail.com):
Hi,
I plan to fill a mass bug filling due to a proprietary code of
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 02:12:23AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
P.S: By the way, there's still an ongoing m68k porting effort. Please
respect
this work as well.
I've been a vivid Amiga user since 1991* and I still love these
machines and I am supporting the efforts to get Debian back onto
Processing control commands:
block -1 by 694308
Bug #694354 [lcdf-typetools] lcdf-typetools include non free adobe code for
hinting
694354 was not blocked by any bugs.
694354 was not blocking any bugs.
Added blocking bug(s) of 694354: 694308
--
694354:
On 11/25/2012 07:36 PM, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Mehdi Dogguy me...@dogguy.org wrote:
On 11/25/2012 02:39 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote:
Quoting Bastien ROUCARIES (roucaries.bast...@gmail.com):
Hi,
I plan to fill a mass bug filling due to a proprietary code of
Hi there!
I see many note in this list like:
I'm registered to the list. So please *do not* Cc: me.
So I'd like to note:
1. Some e-mail cleints make it hard not to CC. For example GMail has only
two options: reply and reply to all. Reply will send email to the author,
not to the list
2. Some
Hi,
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:27:31AM +0400, Игорь Пашев wrote:
I see many note in this list like:
I'm registered to the list. So please *do not* Cc: me.
This is a technical list. Please discuss non-technical issues like the
above elsewhere, e.g. on debian-project.
Thanks and best regards,
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, 07:27:31 LHST, Игорь Пашев pashev.i...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi there!
I see many note in this list like:
I'm registered to the list. So please *do not* Cc: me.
So I'd like to note:
1. Some e-mail cleints make it hard not to CC. For example GMail has only
two options:
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 06:06:02PM +, brian m. carlson wrote:
some of us prefer a separated /usr partition.
I want to have a separate /usr, because I can
enabling a separate /usr means extra work.
using a separate /usr was controversial
partitioned their systems with a separate /usr
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 07:35:32AM +1100, Karl Goetz wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, 07:27:31 LHST, Игорь Пашев pashev.i...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi there!
I see many note in this list like:
I'm registered to the list. So please *do not* Cc: me.
So I'd like to note:
1. Some e-mail
On So, 25 Nov 2012, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
[crap]
foo = bar
...
issue, even git uses that crap instead of something better like xml,
??? Sorry, are you realistically proposing a convolutive pile of shit
like XML for simple config files?
I will send *each*and*every* bug report due
On 25.11.2012 22:49, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
It's annoying and it wastes my time. If your MUA can't handle a CC, get
a better MUA. +1 to removing the CC rule.
It's annoying and it wastes my time to deal with duplicates. If yor MUA
can't handle mailing lists properly, get a better MUA. +1 on
On 25/11/12 19:02, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
[...]
I've been a vivid Amiga user since 1991* and I still love these
machines and I am supporting the efforts to get Debian back onto
m68k. Yet, I do not think this should happen at all costs. There
haven't been no new 68k processors for
On 26/11/2012 05:49, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 07:35:32AM +1100, Karl Goetz wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, 07:27:31 LHST, Игорь Пашев pashev.i...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi there!
I see many note in this list like:
I'm registered to the list. So please *do not* Cc: me.
So
Hello there,
On 25 November 2012 20:35, Karl Goetz k...@kgoetz.id.au wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, 07:27:31 LHST, Игорь Пашев pashev.i...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi there!
I see many note in this list like:
I'm registered to the list. So please *do not* Cc: me.
So I'd like to note:
1. Some
On Nov 25, 2012, at 11:50 PM, Arno Töll wrote:
It's annoying and it wastes my time to deal with duplicates. If yor MUA
can't handle mailing lists properly, get a better MUA. +1 on keeping
things as they are.
Maybe it takes longer than 14 years for MUAs to implement standards[1]. ;)
(Yes, that
* Dmitrijs Ledkovs x...@debian.org, 2012-11-26, 00:19:
If your e-mail processing machinery cannot handle duplicate messages
(due to cross-postings and CC's), maybe you should get an a better
email processing machinery. Receiving duplicate emails is inevitable,
and trivial to deal with.
Oh
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:19:18AM +, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
If your e-mail processing machinery cannot handle duplicate messages
(due to cross-postings and CC's), maybe you should get an a better
email processing machinery. Receiving duplicate emails is inevitable,
and trivial to deal
On 26 November 2012 00:50, brian m. carlson
sand...@crustytoothpaste.net wrote:
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:19:18AM +, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
If your e-mail processing machinery cannot handle duplicate messages
(due to cross-postings and CC's), maybe you should get an a better
email
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, Jakub Wilk wrote:
* Dmitrijs Ledkovs x...@debian.org, 2012-11-26, 00:19:
If your e-mail processing machinery cannot handle duplicate
messages (due to cross-postings and CC's), maybe you should get an
a better email processing machinery. Receiving duplicate emails is
On 11/25/2012 08:12 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, Jakub Wilk wrote:
* Dmitrijs Ledkovs x...@debian.org, 2012-11-26, 00:19:
If your e-mail processing machinery cannot handle duplicate messages (due
to cross-postings and CC's), maybe you should get an a better
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org writes:
Well, the software to do it is around for more than 15 years. Google
for procmail duplicate suppression.
This works exactly backwards of how useful duplicate suppression would
actually work.
When someone copies you on a message to a mailing
Hi,
Le 26/11/2012 04:41, Russ Allbery a écrit :
When someone copies you on a message to a mailing list, you get two
copies,
Not always. My ISP (French Free/Proxad) seems to filter mail with
the same Message-ID sent in a few period of time (a few minutes?)
When I discovered that (of course,
Vincent Danjean vincent.danj...@ens-lyon.org writes:
Not always. My ISP (French Free/Proxad) seems to filter mail with
the same Message-ID sent in a few period of time (a few minutes?)
Interesting, this could explain the oddities that I've seen too.
--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to
Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at writes:
[...]
Ever heard of grep, sed, awk, all these nice things that make
your life happy. Trash them when you are doing XML.
JFTR: there's xmlstarlet(1), which is capable enough to replace
awk(1), sed(1), and grep(1) (which is
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
I see. I went back to check my email archive. I have found two
instances of debian-devel posts that did CC my @debian.org email
address (I am also subscribed to debian devel via @debian.org). I only
have one email. It is sorted correctly. I am still
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