Re: Developer repositories for Debian

2013-05-06 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi Jörg, we definitely needs something like this and your suggested set of rules seems sane. On Sun, 05 May 2013, Joerg Jaspert wrote: - any member of the uploading keyrings can create a PPAMAIN using a defined interface[1]. [1] Most probably it will either be a signed mail or a signed

Re: Proposal: a team maintaining packages managing media types (MIME).

2013-05-06 Thread Josselin Mouette
Hi, Le lundi 06 mai 2013 à 09:24 +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : How about taking the opportunity of this new release cycle to start a packaging team to organise the work on packages providing media type (MIME) support ? The mime-support package (which I maintain) is on Alioth on

Re: Proposal: a team maintaining packages managing media types (MIME).

2013-05-06 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Dear Josselin, On Mon, 6 May 2013 18:29:40 Josselin Mouette wrote: shared-mime-info and desktop-file-utils are already maintained under the pkg-freedesktop umbrella. I see no evidence that desktop-file-utils is associated with pkg-freedesktop. There is no corresponding repository under

Re: Proposal: a team maintaining packages managing media types (MIME).

2013-05-06 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 06 mai 2013 à 20:19 +1000, Dmitry Smirnov a écrit : Dear Josselin, On Mon, 6 May 2013 18:29:40 Josselin Mouette wrote: shared-mime-info and desktop-file-utils are already maintained under the pkg-freedesktop umbrella. I see no evidence that desktop-file-utils is associated

Question about multiarch

2013-05-06 Thread Walter Valenti
Scenario: a Intel x64 (T5500) with Wheezy i386 installed. It's possible use the multiarch support of dpkg to migrate to Wheezy amd64 ? (after installation of linux-image-amd64, libc6-amd64) Thanks Walter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Question about multiarch

2013-05-06 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 12:03:15PM +0100, Walter Valenti wrote: a Intel x64 (T5500) with Wheezy i386 installed. It's possible use the multiarch support of dpkg to migrate to Wheezy amd64 ? (after installation of linux-image-amd64, libc6-amd64) Migrating a live system between architectures is

Re: Proposal: a team maintaining packages managing media types (MIME).

2013-05-06 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Mon, 6 May 2013 20:24:29 Josselin Mouette wrote: I see no evidence that desktop-file-utils is associated with pkg-freedesktop. There is no corresponding repository under pkg-freedesktop and Maintainer field contains Ross Burton r...@debian.org. I've made new (first?) desktop-file-utils

Re: Proposal: a team maintaining packages managing media types (MIME).

2013-05-06 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-05-06, Dmitry Smirnov only...@debian.org wrote: I see, thanks. The repository layout is a bit unusual as it combines several packages together... No it is not. It is very normal with svn. Perhaps it's a good time to separate it to its own repository? I think it is great to have

jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Andreas Beckmann
Hi, now might be the right time to start a discussion about release goals for jessie. Here are some points that come into my mind right now (and some were already discussed very recently): * multiarch compatible binNMUs * discarding maintainer uploaded binary packages [!arch:all] * discarding

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Hey. I would like to see the following with respect to PHP and all packages using PHP: 1) We should try to educate users not to use mod_php. From a security POV it's rather problematic, as it runs in server context. And for people really needing the performance, FPM should be an equally good

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Niels Thykier
On 2013-05-06 14:49, Andreas Beckmann wrote: Hi, now might be the right time to start a discussion about release goals for jessie. Here are some points that come into my mind right now (and some were already discussed very recently): While the ideas themselves are worthwhile, they do not

Re: Proposal: a team maintaining packages managing media types (MIME).

2013-05-06 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Mon, 6 May 2013 23:00:05 Sune Vuorela wrote: On 2013-05-06, Dmitry Smirnov only...@debian.org wrote: Perhaps it's a good time to separate it to its own repository? I think it is great to have desktop-file-utils and shared-mime-info staying within pkg-freedesktop. They know how upstream

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Mathieu Parent
Hello, 2013/5/6 Christoph Anton Mitterer cales...@scientia.net: Hey. I would like to see the following with respect to PHP and all packages using PHP: [...] Related to PHP, but more on the PEAR side, I would like to see all PEAR packages migrated to build with pkg-php-tools (the dh way of

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread The Wanderer
On 05/06/2013 08:49 AM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: Hi, now might be the right time to start a discussion about release goals for jessie. Here are some points that come into my mind right now (and some were already discussed very recently): * multiarch compatible binNMUs * discarding maintainer

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Two more things I remember: 1) IMHO, services/daemons (e.g. apache, ejabberd, etc.) that listen per default on the network (unless loopback only) shouldn't be started per default, after being installed. The usually come only with a default config which may not be hardened enough for the local

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 04:08:07PM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: 1) IMHO, services/daemons (e.g. apache, ejabberd, etc.) that listen per default on the network (unless loopback only) shouldn't be started per default, after being installed. The usually come only with a default config

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Игорь Пашев
2013/5/6 Andrey Rahmatullin w...@wrar.name: There is also a related thing that was discussed in the past: stop disabling services via /etc/default. Modern service management systems might be better choice. E. g. systemd or SMF :-P -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: git as a source package format?

2013-05-06 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, May 04, 2013 at 12:11:23PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: The fact is that Debian does not make much effort to ensure that we do not distribute unredistributable files in our mirrors and installation media, once a package has

Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-06 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, May 04, 2013 at 09:33:14PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 04:53:59PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: I think there's a consensus, the problem is who's going to do the work for automating dropping of binaries and rebuild. Not implying that I am the one doing this

Re: Proposal: a team maintaining packages managing media types (MIME).

2013-05-06 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, May 06, 2013 at 12:24:29PM +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit : Le lundi 06 mai 2013 à 20:19 +1000, Dmitry Smirnov a écrit : On Mon, 6 May 2013 18:29:40 Josselin Mouette wrote: shared-mime-info and desktop-file-utils are already maintained under the pkg-freedesktop umbrella.

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/06/2013 09:15 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: Hey. I would like to see the following with respect to PHP and all packages using PHP: 1) We should try to educate users not to use mod_php. From a security POV it's rather problematic, as it runs in server context. And for people

Re: Bug:#700917: desktop-file-utils: call for (co-)maintainership [ITA]

2013-05-06 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Dear pkg-freedesktop team, Thank you for letting me join pkg-freedesktop team. I migrated old desktop-file-utils repository to new location: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-freedesktop/desktop-file-utils.git where I imported all history including missing versions and also added

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 06, Christoph Anton Mitterer cales...@scientia.net wrote: 1) IMHO, services/daemons (e.g. apache, ejabberd, etc.) that listen per default on the network (unless loopback only) shouldn't be started per default, after being installed. This has been discussed over and over, I think with a

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/06/2013 09:29 PM, Mathieu Parent wrote: Related to PHP, but more on the PEAR side, I would like to see all PEAR packages migrated to build with pkg-php-tools (the dh way of PEAR packages). Yes ! I do 100% agree with the above. This could be a release goal, IMO. Migrating PECL packages

Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/05/2013 03:33 AM, Helmut Grohne wrote: what needs to be touched to achieve aspects of the following features: (Again not implying that they are all desired.) * Permitting source-only uploads. While there is a consensus about dropping binaries, there is none about permitting source-only

Bug#706974: ITP: assword -- Simple and secure password management and retrieval system.

2013-05-06 Thread Jameson Graef Rollins
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jameson Graef Rollins jroll...@finestructure.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 * Package name: assword Version : 0.7 Upstream Author : Jameson Graef Rollins jroll...@finestructure.net * URL :

Bug#706975: ITP: xapers -- Personal journal article management and indexing system.

2013-05-06 Thread Jameson Graef Rollins
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jameson Graef Rollins jroll...@finestructure.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 * Package name: xapers Version : 0.5.1 Upstream Author : Jameson Graef Rollins jroll...@finestructure.net * URL :

Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-06 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 11:40:50PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: what needs to be touched to achieve aspects of the following features: (Again not implying that they are all desired.) * Permitting source-only uploads. While there is a consensus about dropping binaries, there is none about

Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/04/2013 05:10 PM, Wookey wrote: This is a result of maintainer's workflows never doing this, I presume. Yeah! Probably git-buidpackage getting more adoption has something to do with it too. Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Niels Thykier ni...@thykier.net, 2013-05-06, 15:26: now might be the right time to start a discussion about release goals for jessie. Here are some points that come into my mind right now (and some were already discussed very recently): While the ideas themselves are worthwhile, they do not

Bug#706985: ITP: opensmtpd -- Simple Mail Transfer Protocol daemon

2013-05-06 Thread Daniel Walrond
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Daniel Walrond deb...@djw.org.uk * Package name: opensmtpd Version : 5.3.1p1 Upstream Author : OpenBSD * URL : http://www.opensmtpd.org/ * License : ISC, BSD Programming Lang: C Description : Simple Mail Transfer

Re: Bug#706985: ITP: opensmtpd -- Simple Mail Transfer Protocol daemon

2013-05-06 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 05:10:17PM +0100, Daniel Walrond wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Daniel Walrond deb...@djw.org.uk * Package name: opensmtpd Version : 5.3.1p1 Upstream Author : OpenBSD * URL : http://www.opensmtpd.org/ * License

Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-06 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 09:49:33PM +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 11:40:50PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: what needs to be touched to achieve aspects of the following features: (Again not implying that they are all desired.) * Permitting source-only uploads.

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/06/2013 10:08 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: The usually come only with a default config which may not be hardened enough for the local system, and that short time may already be enough for an attacker to attack. If the default config isn't hardened enough, fix the default config.

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Holger Levsen
severity 601455 normal thanks Hi, On Montag, 6. Mai 2013, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: There is also a related thing that was discussed in the past: stop disabling services via /etc/default. #601455 can't stop daemon using /etc/init.d/foo stop when disabled via /etc/default/foo is related to

Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-06 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Montag, 6. Mai 2013, Thomas Goirand wrote: While there is a consensus about dropping binaries, there is none about permitting source-only uploads (and I'm not in the favor of it myself, not because I don't trust others, but because I think it should be possible to add some more QA

Re: Developer repositories for Debian

2013-05-06 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Montag, 6. Mai 2013, Raphael Hertzog wrote: While I won't question the need to support signed mails or commands files, I would like to argue for the support of a web interface as well. how about a web interface which creates such mails/commands, which then only need to be copied into

Re: Bug:#700917: desktop-file-utils: call for (co-)maintainership [ITA]

2013-05-06 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Dmitry Smirnov only...@debian.org, 2013-05-05, 12:30: I'm quite concerned that `desktop-file-validate` utility (provided by desktop-file-utils package) is checking .desktop files against outdated specification. On some occasions such validation recommend changes conflicting with the current

Will we see MariaDB in Jessie?

2013-05-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
I wonder what the plans of the MySQL maintainers are concerning MySQL vs MariaDB. Famously, Fedora made the switch. What will happen in Debian? What kind of transition would this mean? Would it be a drop-in replacement like Monty is pretending, or would it be harder? Cheers, Thomas Goirand

Processed: Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: severity 601455 normal Bug #601455 [general] can't stop daemon using /etc/init.d/foo stop when disabled via /etc/default/foo Bug #661496 [general] multiple, annoyingly different ways to disable an init script Severity set to 'normal' from

Re: Bug#706985: ITP: opensmtpd -- Simple Mail Transfer Protocol daemon

2013-05-06 Thread Daniel Walrond
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 05:42:35PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 05:10:17PM +0100, Daniel Walrond wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Daniel Walrond deb...@djw.org.uk * Package name: opensmtpd Version : 5.3.1p1 Upstream Author :

Re: Bug#706985: ITP: opensmtpd -- Simple Mail Transfer Protocol daemon

2013-05-06 Thread Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez
On 06/05/13 18:42, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 05:10:17PM +0100, Daniel Walrond wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Daniel Walrond deb...@djw.org.uk * Package name: opensmtpd Version : 5.3.1p1 Upstream Author : OpenBSD * URL :

Bug#706987: general: Gnome freezes after some minutes of starting session

2013-05-06 Thread Javier Juan Albarracín
Package: general Severity: grave Justification: renders package unusable Dear Maintainer, Gnome desktop freezes after some minutes of starting the session. The solution is to change to another tty and restart the gdm3 server. I've noticed that it only happens at the begining of the session but

Re: Developer repositories for Debian

2013-05-06 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 09:05:43AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: While I won't question the need to support signed mails or commands files, I would like to argue for the support of a web interface as well. The sheer number of operations that are possible on such repositories will make it

Re: Will we see MariaDB in Jessie?

2013-05-06 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Am 06.05.2013 19:02, schrieb Thomas Goirand: I wonder what the plans of the MySQL maintainers are concerning MySQL vs MariaDB. Famously, Fedora made the switch. What will happen in Debian? What kind of transition would this mean? Would it be a drop-in replacement like Monty is pretending, or

Re: Will we see MariaDB in Jessie?

2013-05-06 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 19:17:47 +0200, Patrick Matthäi wrote: But why should it _replace_ MySQL, why not providing it as an alternative MySQL'ish server? Because Oracle. Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Will we see MariaDB in Jessie?

2013-05-06 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Am 06.05.2013 19:33, schrieb Julien Cristau: On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 19:17:47 +0200, Patrick Matthäi wrote: But why should it _replace_ MySQL, why not providing it as an alternative MySQL'ish server? Because Oracle. That alone does not count, since it is still OSS. As long as _MySQL_

Re: Will we see MariaDB in Jessie?

2013-05-06 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 07:39:50PM +0200, Patrick Matthäi wrote: As long as _MySQL_ maintainers are able (and want) to continue MySQL (or It's my understanding a lot of them jumped ship. Meh. +1 to kill MySQL for MariaDB. It's got a much better future. I see it more like a libc changeover.

Re: Will we see MariaDB in Jessie?

2013-05-06 Thread Clint Byrum
On 2013-05-06 10:02, Thomas Goirand wrote: I wonder what the plans of the MySQL maintainers are concerning MySQL vs MariaDB. Famously, Fedora made the switch. What will happen in Debian? What kind of transition would this mean? Would it be a drop-in replacement like Monty is pretending, or

Re: Will we see MariaDB in Jessie?

2013-05-06 Thread Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez
On 06/05/13 19:02, Thomas Goirand wrote: Famously, Fedora made the switch Seems that also OpenSUSE and Arch (among others) did the switch https://kb.askmonty.org/en/distributions-which-include-mariadb/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Will we see MariaDB in Jessie?

2013-05-06 Thread Bjoern Meier
hi, Just my two 2 cent: I would like to have an virtual package Database, to resolve some deps. So there hasn't be a question of what database someone have to use. Okay, the mainproblem here is not all packages have interface for every database, but it could solve these questions Greetings,

Re: [debian-mysql] Will we see MariaDB in Jessie?

2013-05-06 Thread Steven Ayre
On 6 May 2013 18:54, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org wrote: Meh. +1 to kill MySQL for MariaDB. It's got a much better future. I see it more like a libc changeover. Who cares, it's got the same interface. We only have things to gain (better upstream, upstream commited to real f/oss, new

Re: [debian-mysql] Will we see MariaDB in Jessie?

2013-05-06 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello, 2013/5/6 Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org: I wonder what the plans of the MySQL maintainers are concerning MySQL vs MariaDB. Famously, Fedora made the switch. What will happen in Debian? What kind of transition would this mean? Would it be a drop-in replacement like Monty is pretending,

Re: [debian-mysql] Will we see MariaDB in Jessie?

2013-05-06 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 07:18:35PM +0100, Steven Ayre wrote: On 6 May 2013 18:54, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org wrote: Meh. +1 to kill MySQL for MariaDB. It's got a much better future. I see it more like a libc changeover. Who cares, it's got the same interface. We only have things to

Re: [debian-mysql] Will we see MariaDB in Jessie?

2013-05-06 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
2013/5/6 Steven Ayre stevea...@gmail.com: Having a policy on how such packages can coexist could then allow other options to also be added cleanly (MySQL Cluster, Percona, Galera etc). I've done my best to package MariaDB following best practices on Debian control files and conflict/replace

Re: Will we see MariaDB in Jessie?

2013-05-06 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 01:54:41PM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: Meh. +1 to kill MySQL for MariaDB. It's got a much better future. I see it more like a libc changeover. Who cares, it's got the same interface. We only have things to gain (better upstream, upstream commited to real f/oss, new

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Christoph Anton Mitterer cales...@scientia.net, 2013-05-06, 16:08: 2) No more packages that bypass the package management system and secure apt: a) There are still several (typically non-free) packages which download stuff from the web, install or at least un-tar it somwhere without checking

Re: [debian-mysql] Will we see MariaDB in Jessie?

2013-05-06 Thread Clint Byrum
On 2013-05-06 10:54, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 07:39:50PM +0200, Patrick Matthäi wrote: As long as _MySQL_ maintainers are able (and want) to continue MySQL (or It's my understanding a lot of them jumped ship. At the time Oracle purchased Sun, there was really only

Re: [debian-mysql] Will we see MariaDB in Jessie?

2013-05-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/07/2013 03:05 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: We should also carefully consider what MySQL users would be faced with if we ever dropped MySQL. This was part of my original question. How much difference do we have for our users? Can MariaDB be a drop-in replacement as advertized? I'd be happy to

Re: Will we see MariaDB in Jessie?

2013-05-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/07/2013 01:31 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: I'd also like to get MySQL back in sync with Ubuntu to reduce waste between the two distros. It seems there's more and more a trend of seeing these differences increasing. :( Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Developer repositories for Debian

2013-05-06 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 13203 March 1977, Raphael Hertzog wrote: - any member of the uploading keyrings can create a PPAMAIN using a defined interface[1]. [1] Most probably it will either be a signed mail or a signed .commands style file. While I won't question the need to support signed mails or

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-05-07 00:52:03 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 05/06/2013 10:08 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: The usually come only with a default config which may not be hardened enough for the local system, and that short time may already be enough for an attacker to attack. If the default

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-05-06 17:22:57 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On May 06, Christoph Anton Mitterer cales...@scientia.net wrote: 1) IMHO, services/daemons (e.g. apache, ejabberd, etc.) that listen per default on the network (unless loopback only) shouldn't be started per default, after being installed.

Re: Question about multiarch

2013-05-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 06 mai 13, 12:03:15, Walter Valenti wrote: Scenario: a Intel x64 (T5500) with Wheezy i386 installed. It's possible use the multiarch support of dpkg to migrate to Wheezy amd64 ? (after installation of linux-image-amd64, libc6-amd64) This belongs on debian-user, see

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Serafeim Zanikolas
As the sole driver and implementor of DEP9, I would like to see all reverse depends of update-inetd migrate to reconf-inetd. That is, assuming inetd is not entirely deprecated by systemd/upstart/whathaveyou by the time jessie is released. On a less boring note, I would like to see apt-listbugs

Re: Will we see MariaDB in Jessie?

2013-05-06 Thread Clint Byrum
On 2013-05-06 12:32, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 05/07/2013 01:31 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: I'd also like to get MySQL back in sync with Ubuntu to reduce waste between the two distros. It seems there's more and more a trend of seeing these differences increasing. :( This is yet another dig at

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 06 May 2013, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2013-05-06 17:22:57 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On May 06, Christoph Anton Mitterer cales...@scientia.net wrote: 1) IMHO, services/daemons (e.g. apache, ejabberd, etc.) that listen per default on the network (unless loopback only) shouldn't

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Bob Proulx
Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: I would like to see the following with respect to PHP and all packages using PHP: 1) We should try to educate users not to use mod_php. If Best Practices such as this were documented such as on the Debian wiki then it would go a long way to making this easy for

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 04:08:07PM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: 1) IMHO, services/daemons (e.g. apache, ejabberd, etc.) that listen per default on the network (unless loopback only) shouldn't be started per default, after being installed. May I point to /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d? As has

Uploading only arch:all (Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes)

2013-05-06 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Montag, den 06.05.2013, 16:57 +0200 schrieb Goswin von Brederlow: Maybe as an intermediate and imediate step we could switch to uploading only arch:all debs for mixed packages. That is already supported by DAK and the buildds and would drop a lot of locally build debs. sounds

Bug#707015: ITP: taginfo -- convenience wrapper for taglib

2013-05-06 Thread Dominique Lasserre
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dominique Lasserre lasserr...@gmail.com * Package name: taginfo Version : 0.1.6 Upstream Author : Jörn Magens * URL : https://bitbucket.org/shuerhaaken/libtaginfo * License : LGPL-2+ Programming Lang: C++ Description

Re: [debian-mysql] Will we see MariaDB in Jessie?

2013-05-06 Thread Steven Ayre
I've done my best to package MariaDB following best practices on Debian control files and conflict/replace rules. So I am confident to say we actually already have a way how to get MySQL flavors to coexist. What we seem to lack is _resources_. I guess we could package all of Percona, Galera

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: Hi, now might be the right time to start a discussion about release goals for jessie. Here are some points that come into my mind right now (and some were already discussed very recently): * multiarch compatible binNMUs * discarding

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Mon, 2013-05-06 at 14:59 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: 1) We should try to educate users not to use mod_php. If Best Practices such as this were documented such as on the Debian wiki then it would go a long way to making this easy for users to do. They could then simple follow recipies to good

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Mon, 2013-05-06 at 20:47 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: Do you have any concrete examples (besides flashplugin-nonfree, which is indeed abominable)? I know at least of susv2/3. I once manually went through all the packages depending on wget/curl,... but I don't have the list anymore and would

Bug#705879: general: wheezy don't boot on ext4 with external-journal

2013-05-06 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Sun, 5 May 2013 10:50:09 Calvin Owens wrote: I encountered a similar problem in Gentoo - e2fsck 1.42.5 can't check read-only mounted FS with an external journal. Ted Ts'o just wrote a fix: http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-ext4/msg38096.html Thanks for your fantastic feedback Calvin. So

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Tue, 2013-05-07 at 00:52 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: If the default config isn't hardened enough, fix the default config. Adding a supplementary step to start the service doesn't fix the problem anyway. I don't think this is only a question of hardened enough of not... simply supplying a

Re: Bug:#700917: desktop-file-utils: call for (co-)maintainership [ITA]

2013-05-06 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Tue, 7 May 2013 03:02:02 Jakub Wilk wrote: * Dmitry Smirnov only...@debian.org, 2013-05-05, 12:30: I'm quite concerned that `desktop-file-validate` utility (provided by desktop-file-utils package) is checking .desktop files against outdated specification. On some occasions such validation

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Wookey
+++ The Wanderer [2013-05-06 09:36 -0400]: I don't know whether it would be practical, but one thing I would like to see included as an explicit goal is the completion of multi-arch -dev support. I think it's eminently practical. There is functionality provided by the old ia32-libs-dev

Re: Will we see MariaDB in Jessie?

2013-05-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 03:32:13AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 05/07/2013 01:31 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: I'd also like to get MySQL back in sync with Ubuntu to reduce waste between the two distros. It seems there's more and more a trend of seeing these differences increasing. :( The

Doubts about PPA in Debian

2013-05-06 Thread Adrian Alves
Why I vote NO for ppa in Debian, Something that everybody loves about debian is you have everything in one repo for stable testing or development, the use of PPA it couse things like happens in ubuntu when u need something important you need to install it from a PPA because is not in the repo

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

2013-05-06 Thread Brian May
On 7 May 2013 14:23, Adrian Alves aal...@gmail.com wrote: am not saying PPA is bad just worried about not to lose the magic of debian who has everything in one place. This is already the case. Not everything I package deserves to go into Debian main. e.g. because it is specific to a problem I

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

2013-05-06 Thread Adrian Alves
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Brian May br...@microcomaustralia.com.auwrote: On 7 May 2013 14:23, Adrian Alves aal...@gmail.com wrote: am not saying PPA is bad just worried about not to lose the magic of debian who has everything in one place. This is already the case. Not everything I

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: now might be the right time to start a discussion about release goals for jessie. Here are some points that come into my mind right now (and some were already discussed very recently): I have a long wishlist that contains some items

Re: Doubts about PPA in Debian

2013-05-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Adrian Alves wrote: well as u explain it has logic but whats happens if that never happens on that way? and packages that deserve to be in Debian repos never reach it because it never be pushed into? or how you gonna look into all the PPA's looking for

Accepted iotop 0.5-2 (source amd64)

2013-05-06 Thread Paul Wise
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 13:25:07 +0800 Source: iotop Binary: iotop Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.5-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Paul Wise p...@debian.org Changed-By: Paul Wise p...@debian.org Description:

Accepted maven 3.0.4-6 (source all)

2013-05-06 Thread Damien Raude-Morvan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 01:42:33 +0200 Source: maven Binary: maven Architecture: source all Version: 3.0.4-6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Java Maintainers pkg-java-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org Changed-By:

Accepted polyglot-maven 0.8~tobrien+git20120905-2 (source all)

2013-05-06 Thread Damien Raude-Morvan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 01:37:46 +0200 Source: polyglot-maven Binary: libpolyglot-maven-java libpolyglot-maven-java-doc Architecture: source all Version: 0.8~tobrien+git20120905-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian

Accepted orc 1:0.4.17-2 (source all amd64)

2013-05-06 Thread Sebastian Dröge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 08:35:12 +0200 Source: orc Binary: liborc-0.4-0 liborc-0.4-dev liborc-0.4-0-dbg liborc-0.4-doc Architecture: source all amd64 Version: 1:0.4.17-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Maintainers of

Accepted linux-latest 47 (source all i386)

2013-05-06 Thread Ben Hutchings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 03:12:26 +0100 Source: linux-latest Binary: linux-source linux-doc linux-tools linux-image-alpha-generic linux-headers-alpha-generic linux-image-alpha-smp linux-headers-alpha-smp linux-image-alpha-legacy

Accepted cairo 1.12.14-2 (source all amd64)

2013-05-06 Thread Sebastian Dröge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 08:32:44 +0200 Source: cairo Binary: libcairo2-dev libcairo2 libcairo2-dbg libcairo2-doc libcairo-script-interpreter2 libcairo-gobject2 cairo-perf-utils libcairo2-udeb Architecture: source all amd64 Version:

Accepted exactimage 0.8.8-1 (source amd64)

2013-05-06 Thread Sven Eckelmann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 05 May 2013 13:12:03 +0200 Source: exactimage Binary: exactimage edisplay exactimage-dbg libexactimage-perl php5-exactimage python-exactimage Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.8.8-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low

Accepted looptools 2.8-1 (source amd64)

2013-05-06 Thread Lifeng Sun
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 12:26:04 +0800 Source: looptools Binary: looptools libooptools-dev fcc Architecture: source amd64 Version: 2.8-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Science Maintainers

Accepted w2do 2.3.1-5 (source all)

2013-05-06 Thread Salvatore Bonaccorso
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 08:44:54 +0200 Source: w2do Binary: w2do Architecture: source all Version: 2.3.1-5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Salvatore Bonaccorso car...@debian.org Changed-By: Salvatore Bonaccorso

Accepted erlang 1:16.b-dfsg-3 (source all i386)

2013-05-06 Thread Sergei Golovan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 08:30:31 +0400 Source: erlang Binary: erlang-base erlang-base-hipe erlang-appmon erlang-asn1 erlang-common-test erlang-corba erlang-crypto erlang-debugger erlang-dialyzer erlang-diameter erlang-doc erlang-edoc

Accepted python-xdo 0.2-2 (source amd64)

2013-05-06 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 05 May 2013 13:14:52 -0400 Source: python-xdo Binary: python-xdo Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.2-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Daniel Kahn Gillmor d...@fifthhorseman.net Changed-By: Daniel Kahn

Accepted w3m-el-snapshot 1.4.513+0.20130419-1 (source all)

2013-05-06 Thread Tatsuya Kinoshita
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 14:57:30 +0900 Source: w3m-el-snapshot Binary: w3m-el-snapshot Architecture: source all Version: 1.4.513+0.20130419-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Tatsuya Kinoshita t...@debian.org Changed-By:

Accepted arpack 3.1.3-1 (source amd64)

2013-05-06 Thread Sylvestre Ledru
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 09:18:26 +0200 Source: arpack Binary: libarpack2 libarpack2-dev libarpack2-dbg libparpack2 libparpack2-dev libparpack2-dbg Architecture: source amd64 Version: 3.1.3-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer:

Accepted giws 2.0.1-1 (source all)

2013-05-06 Thread Sylvestre Ledru
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 09:08:43 +0200 Source: giws Binary: giws giws-doc Architecture: source all Version: 2.0.1-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Sylvestre Ledru sylves...@debian.org Changed-By: Sylvestre Ledru

Accepted reloadevery 17.0.0-1 (source all)

2013-05-06 Thread Mike Gabriel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 09:17:11 +0200 Source: reloadevery Binary: xul-ext-reloadevery Architecture: source all Version: 17.0.0-1 Distribution: sid Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Mozilla Extension Maintainers

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