Invitations pour les Solutions Linux 2013

2013-05-14 Thread Tanguy Ortolo
Le salon Solutions Linux / Open Source 2013 [1] va bientôt avoir lieu, près de Paris les 28 et 29 mai. [1] http://www.solutionslinux.fr/ L'association Debian France y tiendra un stand [2] dans le village associatif. Nous avons la possibilité de demander un certain nombre de « badges VIP 

Re: FW: Boycotter Google et Youtube les 24 et 25 septembre

2013-05-14 Thread Tanguy Ortolo
asm, 2012-09-22 12:52+0200: Un monde laïque, ouvert a tous ET RIEN D'AUTRE !! Ça n'empêche pas de ne pas être d'accord avec quelque chose et de protester contre. On doit pouvoir s'exprimer, et pouvoir critiquer l'expression légitime d'autrui, c'est à dire plus précisément le contenu et non

Re: Invitations pour les Solutions Linux 2013

2013-05-14 Thread moussa
bonjour je repond directement sur ta boite car je pense que la liste s'en fout de savoir mon nom et prenom:) prenom moussa nom amghar civilite homme societe, trilport informatique service merci a toi Moussa Le 14 mai 2013 14:24, Tanguy Ortolo tanguy+deb...@ortolo.eu a écrit : Le salon

Cannot log into people.debian.org

2013-05-14 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi fellow DDs, can anyone explain me why I cannot log into people.debian.org from my new computer, while from my old laptop it works? I have copied the new ssh id_rsa.pub key to the authorized_keys file on travel, but still it simply tells me: $ ssh -v ... ... debug1: Offering RSA public key:

Re: Cannot log into people.debian.org

2013-05-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Norbert Preining wrote: I have copied the new ssh id_rsa.pub key to the authorized_keys debian.org hosts do not pay attention to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys, you need to set them up through the LDAP mail gateway: https://db.debian.org/doc-mail.html -- bye, pabs

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-14 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/13/2013 06:05 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le dimanche 12 mai 2013 à 19:40 +0200, Helmut Grohne a écrit : With all due respect, this might be utter bullshit, but is at least [citation needed]. I have yet to see a failing pid 1 (be that sysv, upstart or systemd). Acquiring data on failure

Re: Temporary solution for changelog problem in binNMUs

2013-05-14 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 03:16:57PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: The binNMU issue entails two ???sub-problems???. The first is the one introduced by different entries in binNMUs on multiple architectures. The other is the unmatched versions for possible out-of-step binNMU versions. I

Re: Bug#707601: ITP: debmake -- helper script to make the Debian source package

2013-05-14 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 02:52:17PM +0200, Alberto Garcia wrote: Also, is there any relation between this and the old 'debmake' package or they just happen to have the same name? My first thought upon seeing this ITP was, whyever for would anyone want to resurrect debmake. Please choose another

Re: Cannot log into people.debian.org

2013-05-14 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Paul, thanks for your answer. On Di, 14 Mai 2013, Paul Wise wrote: https://db.debian.org/doc-mail.html Thanks, hmm, I did also this, but never got an answer. Am I supposed to get an answer to an email I sent there? Norbert

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Upcoming libgd2-{xpm, noxpm}-dev - libgd2-dev transition

2013-05-14 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:34:36PM +0200, Ondřej Surý a écrit : 1. I have dropped the {xpm,noxpm} dichotomy and there's only libgd2-dev now. There are transitional packages which are ment to help with the move to libgd2-dev, so you don't have to make any changes right now - the

Re: Switching default dpkg-deb compressor to xz

2013-05-14 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-05-14, John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell johnandsa...@cox.net wrote: Are you trying to cause problems with free software? Quite the opposite. He is trying to ensure that we don't have to modify all packages to get them xz compressed, but rather does it from a central place. /Sune

Re: Temporary solution for changelog problem in binNMUs

2013-05-14 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Mon, 13 May 2013, Guillem Jover wrote: The binNMU issue entails two “sub-problems”. The first is the one introduced by different entries in binNMUs on multiple architectures. The other is the unmatched versions for possible out-of-step binNMU versions. Personally I see very clearly

Re: parsable copyright format 1.0 (jessie release goals)

2013-05-14 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-05-13, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: The use cases are not at all fringe: every company I have worked at since open source became the dominant source of libraries has had some set of rules and policies around which licenses to use when, and good data about that makes

Re: Cannot log into people.debian.org

2013-05-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Norbert Preining wrote: Thanks, hmm, I did also this, but never got an answer. Am I supposed to get an answer to an email I sent there? I got replies to mails I sent there in the past (unrelated to ssh). I would suggest checking that the OpenPGP key you signed

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-14 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 14 mai 2013 à 15:28 +0800, Thomas Goirand a écrit : On 05/13/2013 06:05 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: Having a rock-stable PID 1 is nice and all, but it doesn’t help you if something important crashes. On a production server, if apache crashes and fails to reload properly because

Re: Apport for Debian

2013-05-14 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 14 mai 2013 à 00:40 +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit : - adjust the buildds to begin generating debug symbols packages automatically - perhaps reusing pkgbinarymangler from Ubuntu, or perhaps using it as a reference Patches to debhelper already exist, to generate one udeb

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-14 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Helmut Grohne helmut at subdivi.de writes: What are the benefits of using shells other than dash for /bin/sh? (as Why does dash get special treatment, anyway? It was “suddenly“ in Debian after having been used in Ubuntu, but… there never was an evaluation of shells. I still believe the

Re: Cannot log into people.debian.org

2013-05-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Norbert Preining (debian-devel is the wrong forum for this, you want debian-admin@lists.d.o to reach the admins.) On Di, 14 Mai 2013, Paul Wise wrote: https://db.debian.org/doc-mail.html Thanks, hmm, I did also this, but never got an answer. Your email server certainly accepted a mail

Re: Cannot log into people.debian.org

2013-05-14 Thread Norbert Preining
Thanks everyone, On Di, 14 Mai 2013, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: Your email server certainly accepted a mail from db.debian.org this morning. Look for r4E8r05U001275 in your log files. Yes indeed, now after fixing the mail server entry, since our university smtp has changed ... sorry for the

Re: Temporary solution for changelog problem in binNMUs

2013-05-14 Thread Игорь Пашев
2013/5/14 Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org: But ansgar's objection about the duplication of the changelog in multiple .deb when it used to be shared via a symlink also makes sense. As does the fact that there's currently no way to not install some control files. What about creating symlinks

Re: Bug#707601: ITP: debmake -- helper script to make the Debian source package

2013-05-14 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:43:59AM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 02:52:17PM +0200, Alberto Garcia wrote: Also, is there any relation between this and the old 'debmake' package or they just happen to have the same name? My first thought upon seeing this

Re: Temporary solution for changelog problem in binNMUs

2013-05-14 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Tue, 14 May 2013, Игорь Пашев wrote: 2013/5/14 Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org: But ansgar's objection about the duplication of the changelog in multiple .deb when it used to be shared via a symlink also makes sense. As does the fact that there's currently no way to not install

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-14 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/14/2013 04:51 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote: Yes of course, because a different init system will magically make your other disk bootable. This is absolutely *NOT* what I said. Nothing in my message compares this or that init system. I just replied that when you have apache, it's easier to

Re: jessie to be a derivative?

2013-05-14 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On 11-05-13 13:31, Daniel Pocock wrote: There have been various discussions about how to change the release process I'm not personally convinced that the process is fundamentally flawed. If there are still as many wheezy systems in 10 years as there are Windows XP machines in corporations

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-14 Thread Philip Hands
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: Le mardi 14 mai 2013 à 15:28 +0800, Thomas Goirand a écrit : On 05/13/2013 06:05 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: Having a rock-stable PID 1 is nice and all, but it doesn’t help you if something important crashes. On a production server, if apache

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-14 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On 13-05-13 05:59, Mark Symonds wrote: Can we keep the distribution simple enough for nearly anyone to understand? No. The goal of Debian is not to be simple. While we should document things as much as possible so that the interested can learn how things work, in no case should we ever avoid

Aw: Re: DPA instead of PPA

2013-05-14 Thread Steffen Möller
Hello, Von: Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com An: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: DPA instead of PPA In article 518b7cf6.3080...@debian.org you write: On 09/05/13 07:38, Raphael Hertzog wrote: bikeshed \o/ You probably meant this to be a comment on the discussion rather than a

Re: jessie to be a derivative?

2013-05-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: That's already possible, just put mentors.debian.net in your sources.list? Having said that, the point of mentors.debian.net is that inexperienced maintainers can upload their packages there, so that a debian developer can look at them

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Wouter Verhelst (2013-05-14 12:22:14) On 13-05-13 05:59, Mark Symonds wrote: Can we keep the distribution simple enough for nearly anyone to understand? No. The goal of Debian is not to be simple. While we should document things as much as possible so that the interested can

Re: parsable copyright format 1.0 (jessie release goals)

2013-05-14 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 07:52:25PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: Being able to write tools to extract the license of any given package. Well, extract what the maintainer thought the license was when they wrote debian/copyright. What correlation that has with reality is an open question. -- To

Re: Bug#707601: ITP: debmake -- helper script to make the Debian source package

2013-05-14 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 02:31:43PM +0200, Benjamin Drung wrote: Am Montag, den 13.05.2013, 21:06 +0900 schrieb Osamu Aoki: This may be still buggy and may needs some more work. I was thinking to update maint-guide using this so I need to be less wordy and the debmake program does

Re: Developer repositories for Debian

2013-05-14 Thread Olivier Berger
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes: Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org writes: On Mon, 06 May 2013, Joerg Jaspert wrote: Nah, the webinterface just should end up like the DAM webinterface: You do whatever you need, then click a button - and voila, there is everything ready to copy/paste

Re: Developer repositories for Debian

2013-05-14 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 02:27:51PM +0200, Olivier Berger wrote: Nah, the webinterface just should end up like the DAM webinterface: You do whatever you need, then click a button - and voila, there is everything ready to copy/paste into a MUA. Send with sig, done. Why? This is just a

Re: epoch fix?

2013-05-14 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 05:55:22PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Philip Hands ~ (tilde) with it's magic negative sort order, does work however: 0~20130215 0~something is pretty magic and sometimes confuses tools, though, since it's a positive version number that's less than

Re: epoch fix?

2013-05-14 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 10:19:18PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Matt Zagrabelny mzagrabe at d.umn.edu writes: Use the mechanism of really: That is *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* *much* more ugly than epochs and

Re: detailed lists with archive contents - more than just Contents

2013-05-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 03:21:35PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:48:06AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Both cases would need data for multiple archs. For the second case if identical files are in all foo_arch.deb then those should be in foo-common_all.deb. A

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-14 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Thijs Kinkhorst th...@debian.org wrote: I suggest that you file a bug against php5 with suggested changes and we can discuss the pros and cons of each for jessie. And I must add that I consider very rude to push your (sometimes extreme, sometimes very usefull)

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-14 Thread Toni Mueller
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 08:44:30PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: ... forcing the rest of the world to conform to our worldview. One desktop environment, and an awful one at that, dictating the init system we use is a complete farce. Debian is a lot bigger than GNOME, and if we have to, I'd

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-14 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2013-05-14 at 08:59 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Helmut Grohne helmut at subdivi.de writes: What are the benefits of using shells other than dash for /bin/sh? (as Why does dash get special treatment, anyway? It was “suddenly“ in Debian after having been used in Ubuntu, but… there

Re: Depends: libfoo:foreign ???

2013-05-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 07:55:30AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: On 05/09/2013 11:59 AM, Wookey wrote: +++ Goswin von Brederlow [2013-05-09 11:39 +0200]: I would say that a foreign dependency on a library is never right. That's too strong. It can make sense for cross-tools, or maybe

Re: Depends: libfoo:foreign ???

2013-05-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:31:54AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: On 05/13/2013 10:22 AM, The Wanderer wrote: On 05/13/2013 09:46 AM, Wookey wrote: Hmm. Do the parts of the 64-bit tree that the 32-bit side compiles against end up installed in a final installation (as libraries?) or are they

Re: Developer repositories for Debian

2013-05-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Olivier Berger (2013-05-14 14:27:51) Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes: Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org writes: On Mon, 06 May 2013, Joerg Jaspert wrote: Nah, the webinterface just should end up like the DAM webinterface: You do whatever you need, then click a button -

Re: Temporary solution for changelog problem in binNMUs

2013-05-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 06:04:58PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Montag, 13. Mai 2013, Guillem Jover wrote: The only thing the metadata solution would need now, is changing packaging helper, all packages not using a helper, and changelog and copyright extractors to look first in the

Re: Temporary solution for changelog problem in binNMUs

2013-05-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:09:53PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: Hi, [ dropped -release and -wb-team ] Jonathan Nieder jrnie...@gmail.com writes: One problem that that doesn't solve is what to do when a package would be able to borrow its /doc/package directory from another package

Re: Temporary solution for changelog problem in binNMUs

2013-05-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 09:30:45AM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: I acknowledge that I am coming late to the party. I dug into the discussion referenced from your other mail, but had a hard time finding specific arguments. This discussion appears to be a good candidate for

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 07:26:15PM +0200, Stephen Kitt wrote: On Sat, 11 May 2013 11:39:28 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de wrote: On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:57:58AM +0200, Stephen Kitt wrote: The big issue which crops up then isn't so much the directory structure's impact

Re: Source build-dependencies

2013-05-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 06:03:30PM +0100, Wookey wrote: +++ Stephen Kitt [2013-05-09 10:46 +0200]: On Thu, 9 May 2013 10:10:01 +0200, Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org wrote: * source build dependencies (such that e.g binutils-mingw-w64 build depends on src:binutils instead of

Re: Depends: libfoo:foreign ???

2013-05-14 Thread The Wanderer
On 05/14/2013 09:34 AM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 07:55:30AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: If I'm correctly understanding what's being described here, I would think that the full-functionality 64+32 Wine would probably be another exception (unless it falls under

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-14 Thread Joey Hess
Paul Wise wrote: Probably the rsync package should just ask you via debconf if you want to serve any directories and what their names and paths should be. Since most folks who have rsync installed don't need rsyncd, the default would be to not setup anything. No, it should not. 60 packages

Bug#708266: ITP: libtest-failwarnings-perl -- module for adding test failures if warnings are caught

2013-05-14 Thread Oleg Gashev
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Oleg Gashev o...@gashev.net * Package name: libtest-failwarnings-perl Version : 0.005 Upstream Author : David Golden dagol...@cpan.org * URL : https://metacpan.org/release/Test-FailWarnings/ * License : Apache-2.0

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-14 Thread Wookey
+++ Stephen Kitt [2013-05-13 19:26 +0200]: Yes, but that's not the problem. Take the premise that the target directory structure is as described above, so most library development packages ship as many headers as possible in /usr/include. For now we'll assume all mingw-w64-...-dev headers are

Re: Developer repositories for Debian

2013-05-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk writes: Quoting Olivier Berger (2013-05-14 14:27:51) I'm not so sure how GPG integrates in the WebID landscape, but it seems to me that WebID, based on Linked Data principles has some similarity with Web of Trust concepts well known in the GPG system. Daniel

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-14 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/13/2013 07:08 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2013-05-07 23:54:36 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 05/07/2013 04:00 AM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: This can be fine for some daemons/servers. For instance, for a web server, displaying a default web page is harmless. But what about a mail server?

Re: /bin/sh

2013-05-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Thorsten Glaser t...@debian.org writes: Helmut Grohne helmut at subdivi.de writes: What are the benefits of using shells other than dash for /bin/sh? (as Why does dash get special treatment, anyway? It was “suddenly“ in Debian after having been used in Ubuntu, but… there never was an

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Philip Hands wrote: Vincent Lefevre writes: I agree for these services (though Apache is useless after just being installed, as one just has a dummy web page). I don't know about you, but I find it quite reassuring to be able to confirm that the first half of an install is going pretty

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Joey Hess jo...@debian.org writes: Paul Wise wrote: Probably the rsync package should just ask you via debconf if you want to serve any directories and what their names and paths should be. Since most folks who have rsync installed don't need rsyncd, the default would be to not setup

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 08:59:57AM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Helmut Grohne helmut at subdivi.de writes: What are the benefits of using shells other than dash for /bin/sh? (as Why does dash get special treatment, anyway? Because /bin/sh is special under Debian policy, as an essential

Re: /bin/sh

2013-05-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:03:34AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: I think that, to convince people that flexibility won't cause stability and complexity problems, you're going to need to present a complete and fairly bulletproof implementation plan. Given how difficult the bash to dash

Bug#708280: ITP: libtest-lwp-useragent-perl -- a LWP::UserAgent suitable for simulating and testing network calls

2013-05-14 Thread Oleg Gashev
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Oleg Gashev o...@gashev.net * Package name: libtest-lwp-useragent-perl Version : 0.018 Upstream Author : Karen Etheridge et...@cpan.org * URL : https://metacpan.org/release/Test-LWP-UserAgent/ * License : Artistic or

Bug#708283: ITP: libmoosex-configuration-perl -- Define attributes which come from configuration files

2013-05-14 Thread Oleg Gashev
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Oleg Gashev o...@gashev.net * Package name: libmoosex-configuration-perl Version : 0.02 Upstream Author : Dave Rolsky auta...@urth.org * URL : https://metacpan.org/release/MooseX-Configuration * License : Artistic-2.0

Re: Debianizing the Java world?

2013-05-14 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 12/05/13 21:11, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: On 05/11/2013 10:12 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: On 11/05/13 04:35, Paul Wise wrote: I think you want to discuss this on the debian-java list instead. The reason I posted here is that the concept is just as viable for other languages with their own

Re: Your attitude on debian mailinglists

2013-05-14 Thread John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell
As I did you. You all are WAY late with a new Debian that isn't chalk full of problems. And you are dead wrong. I am not the only one who posts disagreements with posts. For example: Paul Wise often disagrees with ill alterations to Debian. I don't like what's going on with the continual

Re: Switching default dpkg-deb compressor to xz

2013-05-14 Thread John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell
Ben what basis do you have against .gz ? And I'd love to know if it won't cause dependancy problems when someone has more than one debian they are dealing with. I doubt it's as simple as stated. What's wrong with saying so? And yes I do think there are some that would inject problems (such

Re: parsable copyright format 1.0 (jessie release goals)

2013-05-14 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk [130512 12:43]: It is too much work for far too little gain. What *is* the gain? What is the gain of copyright files? One big gain of a copyright file is the act of doing it. For software to be distributable every copyright owner has to have given his

Re: Switching default dpkg-deb compressor to xz

2013-05-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 05/14/2013 10:53 PM, John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell wrote: Ben what basis do you have against .gz ? It was already mentioned, it takes more space. Everyone (e.g. Fedora with rpm) is switching to xz, not just Debian. The Linux kernel is using more advanced compression algorithms as

Re: Temporary solution for changelog problem in binNMUs

2013-05-14 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 14.05.2013 09:30, schrieb Helmut Grohne: 1) Raphael Hertzog suggested[1] that metadata could be stored compressed. Is that implemented already? (As far as I can see it would be part of file_show, but isn't.) If not, that would cause an increase in installation size. I guess that a

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-14 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 14 mai 2013 11:54 CEST, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org : Yes of course, because a different init system will magically make your other disk bootable. This is absolutely *NOT* what I said. Nothing in my message compares this or that init system. I just replied that when you have apache,

Time to summarise the discussion on epoch ?

2013-05-14 Thread Charles Plessy
Hi all, would there be a volunteer to summarise this discussion as a patch to the Developers's Reference ? You do not need to be an expert: reading and understanding this thread is enough. Have a nice day, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Time to summarise the discussion on epoch ?

2013-05-14 Thread Nathan Handler
On May 14, 2013 5:08 PM, Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote: would there be a volunteer to summarise this discussion as a patch to the Developers's Reference ? You do not need to be an expert: reading and understanding this thread is enough. I would be up for working on this task. Nathan

Re: Bug#707601: ITP: debmake -- helper script to make the Debian source package

2013-05-14 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Dienstag, den 14.05.2013, 20:35 +0900 schrieb Osamu Aoki: Hi, On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 02:31:43PM +0200, Benjamin Drung wrote: Am Montag, den 13.05.2013, 21:06 +0900 schrieb Osamu Aoki: This may be still buggy and may needs some more work. I was thinking to update maint-guide using

Bug#708306: ITP: typecatcher -- Download Google webfonts for off-line use

2013-05-14 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrew Starr-Bochicchio a...@debian.org * Package name: typecatcher Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Andrew Starr-Bochicchio a.star...@gmail.com * URL : https://launchpad.net/typecatcher * License : GPL-3 Programming

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-14 Thread brian m. carlson
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 10:08:21PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: This is utter bullshit and you should already know it. Systemd is much more reliable as a whole than any other implementation. I have yet to see a use case where it is not better. It is not better if you don't want proprietary

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-14 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 15.05.2013 01:26, schrieb brian m. carlson: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 10:08:21PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: This is utter bullshit and you should already know it. Systemd is much more reliable as a whole than any other implementation. I have yet to see a use case where it is not better.

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-14 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 15.05.2013 01:26, schrieb brian m. carlson: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 10:08:21PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: This is utter bullshit and you should already know it. Systemd is much more reliable as a whole than any other implementation. I have yet to see a use case where it is not better.

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 05/15/2013 02:16 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 15.05.2013 01:26, schrieb brian m. carlson: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 10:08:21PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: This is utter bullshit and you should already know it. Systemd is much more reliable as a whole than any other implementation. I have

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-14 Thread Salvo Tomaselli
And, when it comes to processing, binary data is actually *easier* to process. Everyone who has ever written a text parser themselves will agree. I guess everyone who has used grep, tr, sed and so on will disagree? -- Salvo Tomaselli http://web.student.chalmers.se/~saltom/ -- To

Bug#708314: general: i cannot access my system settings

2013-05-14 Thread scarecrow
Package: general Severity: important Dear Maintainer, *** Please consider answering these questions, where appropriate *** * What led up to the situation? * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or ineffective)? * What was the outcome of this action? * What

Web ID as passwordless authentication for debian web services [was: Re: Developer repositories for Debian]

2013-05-14 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 05/14/2013 10:03 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: I have also thought WebID would be a perfect match for things like this. [...] Daniel has raised concerns about WebID: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/freedombox-discuss/2011-March/001030.html Quite frustrating, because I trust

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-14 Thread brian m. carlson
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 02:29:40AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 05/15/2013 02:16 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 15.05.2013 01:26, schrieb brian m. carlson: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 10:08:21PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: This is utter bullshit and you should already know it.

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-14 Thread brian m. carlson
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 02:12:10AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 15.05.2013 01:26, schrieb brian m. carlson: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 10:08:21PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: This is utter bullshit and you should already know it. Systemd is much more reliable as a whole than any other

Re: Temporary solution for changelog problem in binNMUs

2013-05-14 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2013-05-14 at 09:30:45 +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: I acknowledge that I am coming late to the party. I dug into the discussion referenced from your other mail, but had a hard time finding specific arguments. This discussion appears to be a good candidate for

Re: Call for Help: DebConf travel sponsorship team

2013-05-14 Thread Juris Kaminskis
Hi Yes i can help Juris 2013. gada 15. maijs 07:13 Gunnar Wolf gw...@debian.org rakstīja: tl;dr: We are trying to assemble a large enough (but not too large?) team to help us rate the travel sponsorship requests for DebConf13. Many aspects are still open to debate, but most probably

Bug#708321: ITP: python3-pyparsing -- Python parsing module, Python3 package

2013-05-14 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org * Package name: python3-pyparsing Version : 2.0.0 Upstream Author : Paul McGuire pt...@users.sourceforge.net * URL : http://pyparsing.wikispaces.com/ * License : MIT Programming Lang:

Re: Upcoming libgd2-{xpm,noxpm}-dev - libgd2-dev transition

2013-05-14 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 22:34:36 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: Two things has happened with GD Library: 1. I have dropped the {xpm,noxpm} dichotomy and there's only libgd2-dev now. There are transitional packages which are ment to help with the move to libgd2-dev, so you don't have to

Accepted libchart-gnuplot-perl 0.20-1 (source all)

2013-05-14 Thread Salvatore Bonaccorso
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 07:53:48 +0200 Source: libchart-gnuplot-perl Binary: libchart-gnuplot-perl Architecture: source all Version: 0.20-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Perl Group

Accepted darcsum 1.10+20120116-1 (source all)

2013-05-14 Thread TANIGUCHI Takaki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 15:23:01 +0900 Source: darcsum Binary: darcsum Architecture: source all Version: 1.10+20120116-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: TANIGUCHI Takaki tak...@debian.org Changed-By: TANIGUCHI Takaki

Accepted glide 2002.04.10ds1-8 (source i386)

2013-05-14 Thread Guillem Jover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 08:00:34 +0200 Source: glide Binary: glide2-bin libglide2 libglide2-dev libglide3 libglide3-dev Architecture: source i386 Version: 2002.04.10ds1-8 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Guillem Jover

Accepted xpra 0.9.2+dfsg-1 (source amd64)

2013-05-14 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 15:31:20 +1000 Source: xpra Binary: xpra python-wimpiggy Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.9.2+dfsg-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Python Applications Packaging Team

Accepted postgresql-9.3 9.3~beta1-2 (source amd64 all)

2013-05-14 Thread Christoph Berg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 23:09:44 -0700 Source: postgresql-9.3 Binary: libpq-dev libpq5 libecpg6 libecpg-dev libecpg-compat3 libpgtypes3 postgresql-9.3 postgresql-9.3-dbg postgresql-client-9.3 postgresql-server-dev-9.3 postgresql-doc-9.3

Accepted boost1.49 1.49.0-4 (source all amd64)

2013-05-14 Thread Steve M. Robbins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 01:05:39 -0500 Source: boost1.49 Binary: libboost1.49-dbg libboost1.49-dev libboost1.49-all-dev libboost1.49-doc libboost-chrono1.49.0 libboost-chrono1.49-dev libboost-date-time1.49.0 libboost-date-time1.49-dev

Accepted joda-convert 1.3.1-1 (source all)

2013-05-14 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 19:03:38 +0200 Source: joda-convert Binary: libjoda-convert-java libjoda-convert-java-doc Architecture: source all Version: 1.3.1-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Java Maintainers

Accepted sparkleshare 1.0.0-1 (source all)

2013-05-14 Thread Carlos Martín Nieto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 08:33:16 +0100 Source: sparkleshare Binary: sparkleshare Architecture: source all Version: 1.0.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian CLI Applications Team

Accepted adonthell-data 0.3.4.cvs.20080529+dfsg-3.1 (source all)

2013-05-14 Thread Luca Falavigna
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 16:27:08 +0200 Source: adonthell-data Binary: adonthell-data Architecture: source all Version: 0.3.4.cvs.20080529+dfsg-3.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Games Team

Accepted almanah 0.10.8-1 (source amd64)

2013-05-14 Thread Angel Abad
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 10:27:40 +0200 Source: almanah Binary: almanah Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.10.8-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Angel Abad an...@debian.org Changed-By: Angel Abad an...@debian.org

Accepted assaultcube-data 1.1.0.4+repack1-2.1 (source all)

2013-05-14 Thread gregor herrmann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 15:26:57 +0200 Source: assaultcube-data Binary: assaultcube-data Architecture: source all Version: 1.1.0.4+repack1-2.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Games Team

Accepted base-installer 1.131 (source all i386)

2013-05-14 Thread Christian Perrier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 20:09:34 +0200 Source: base-installer Binary: base-installer bootstrap-base Architecture: source all i386 Version: 1.131 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Install System Team

Accepted freecode-submit 2.5-1 (source amd64)

2013-05-14 Thread Francois Marier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 20:09:01 +1200 Source: freecode-submit Binary: freecode-submit Architecture: source amd64 Version: 2.5-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Francois Marier franc...@debian.org Changed-By: Francois

Accepted grantlee 0.3.0-3 (source amd64)

2013-05-14 Thread Pino Toscano
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 10:45:09 +0200 Source: grantlee Binary: libgrantlee-gui0 libgrantlee-core0 libgrantlee-dev Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.3.0-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Krap Maintainers

Accepted libc++ 1.0~svn181765-1 (source amd64)

2013-05-14 Thread Sylvestre Ledru
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 10:41:44 +0200 Source: libc++ Binary: libc++1 libc++-dev libc++-src libc++abi1 libc++abi-dev libc++abi-src Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.0~svn181765-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: LLVM

Accepted libjoda-time-java 2.2-1 (source all)

2013-05-14 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 16:17:14 +0200 Source: libjoda-time-java Binary: libjoda-time-java libjoda-time-java-doc Architecture: source all Version: 2.2-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Java Maintainers

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