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On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 07:17:12PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quoting Scott Kitterman (2015-08-25 17:57:11)
AFAIK we've only ever discussed the need to provide source. I don't
know why there would be a requirement to reminify.
I see no
Bas Wijnen writes (Re: Security concerns with minified javascript code):
AFAIK Debian doesn't *require* generated files to be rebuilt. For
example, it used to be common practice for a long time to copy
config.{guess,sub} from autotools-dev instead of regenerating them
with autoreconf (I think
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Scott Kitterman dijo [Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 11:57:11AM -0400]:
No, we don't require to rebuild everything from source. It should just
be possible to do it with what is in main. The last occurrence that I
can find of this discussion is here:
Michael Meskes wrote:
Can anyone tell me which package/configuration is reponsible for systemd
running a package upgrade during bootup? I certainly never willingly
configured this feature, but still have it. And for the second time it
destroyed my system by deinstalling a lot of packages, instead
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❦ 25 août 2015 18:03 +0200, Vincent Bernat ber...@debian.org :
Can anyone tell me which package/configuration is reponsible for systemd
running a package upgrade during bootup? I certainly never willingly
configured this feature, but still have it. And for the second time it
destroyed my
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On 25/08/15 16:18, Michael Meskes wrote:
Can anyone tell me which package/configuration is reponsible for systemd
running a package upgrade during bootup?
I think packagekit does the actual upgrade during boot, if one has been
staged by some other component. gnome-software is the only PK
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Jakub Wilk dijo [Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 04:04:52PM +0200]:
To me the problem suggests that it is important from a security and
accountability perspective to 1) include the human-readable source code
of JavaScript in Debian packages, and 2) to compile the human-readable
source code into a
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* Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org, 2015-08-24, 16:08:
I believe the blog post below has relevance to Debian's stance on
including minified JavaScript in packages:
https://zyan.scripts.mit.edu/blog/backdooring-js/
To me the problem suggests that it is important from a security and
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 02:28:05PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
I wonder how this list was arrived at. Offhand, I see the libc6-dbg and
python3.5-dbg packages are both in section 'debug', both of which are part
of the build-dependency closure of main; I'm pretty sure we don't want them
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On Tue, Aug 25, 2015, at 11:04, Jakub Wilk wrote:
Do we actually require re-minifying JS code at build time?
You can either ship the unminifyied JS, or minify it at build time.
--
One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
them all and in the darkness grind them.
Quoting Jakub Wilk (2015-08-25 16:04:52)
* Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org, 2015-08-24, 16:08:
I believe the blog post below has relevance to Debian's stance on
including minified JavaScript in packages:
https://zyan.scripts.mit.edu/blog/backdooring-js/
To me the problem suggests that it is
[ Added d-a@ldo for the dsa parts. ]
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015, Ian Jackson wrote:
If the answer is „Nothing is stopping, just that someone has to do it“,
then I’m volunteering, as long as I can do most of it during DebConf.
There are two problems that are stopping us doing this right away:
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Can anyone tell me which package/configuration is reponsible for systemd
running a package upgrade during bootup? I certainly never willingly
configured this feature, but still have it. And for the second time it
destroyed my system by deinstalling a lot of packages, instead of putting the
❦ 25 août 2015 16:04 +0200, Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org :
I believe the blog post below has relevance to Debian's stance on
including minified JavaScript in packages:
https://zyan.scripts.mit.edu/blog/backdooring-js/
To me the problem suggests that it is important from a security and
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On Tuesday 25 August 2015 13:08:12 Ole Streicher wrote:
This is probably the way to go. However, the original package does not
update the data on a regular base. It checks whether the data are
current when they are accessed and downloads a new version if the local
version is too old.
What
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Michael Meskes mes...@debian.org writes:
Can anyone tell me which package/configuration is reponsible for systemd
running a package upgrade during bootup? I certainly never willingly
configured this feature, but still have it. And for the second time it
destroyed my system by deinstalling a
On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 05:12:56 PM Vincent Bernat wrote:
❦ 25 août 2015 16:04 +0200, Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org :
I believe the blog post below has relevance to Debian's stance on
including minified JavaScript in packages:
https://zyan.scripts.mit.edu/blog/backdooring-js/
To me
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❦ 25 août 2015 17:18 +0200, Michael Meskes mes...@debian.org :
Can anyone tell me which package/configuration is reponsible for systemd
running a package upgrade during bootup? I certainly never willingly
configured this feature, but still have it. And for the second time it
destroyed my
Quoting Scott Kitterman (2015-08-25 17:57:11)
On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 05:12:56 PM Vincent Bernat wrote:
❦ 25 août 2015 16:04 +0200, Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org :
I believe the blog post below has relevance to Debian's stance on
including minified JavaScript in packages:
I used the term anti-feature deliberately. I am well aware of what
the systemd devs are trying to achieve here, and I strongly believe
that it is a significant backwards step for Debian. We should not be
doing this and making things worse for our users without (at the very
least!) discussing
Michael Meskes mich...@fam-meskes.de writes:
PackageKit uses the very same resolver as apt itself does... A log
file of what actually happened would be very helpful here, to determine
the problem causing the package removal.
Just try an update on a recently updated (Sunday) sid system and
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015, at 08:48 PM, Michael Meskes wrote:
Can anyone tell me which package/configuration is reponsible for systemd
running a package upgrade during bootup? I certainly never willingly
configured this feature, but still have it. And for the second time it
destroyed my system by
The only thing which makes use of this feature is GNOME through
GNOME-Software, so if you don't want this, removing GNOME-Software will
be enough.
This is a joke, right?
P.S: A log file on why the update failed would be very helpful though,
because even if you don't use it, the
For years, we have been able to ship generated files without checking if
they can really be built from sources (for example, autoconf stuff). And
JS stuff should comply to stricter standards from day one?
JS stuff has been in Debian for a long time; it isn't fair to say that
this is day one.
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❦ 25 août 2015 22:46 +0100, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com :
Notably, one of the tool is Grunt and its myriad of plugins. Even if
Grunt was in Debian, we would also need Gulp, then Broccoli, because in
Javascript, there is always someone thinking that it should be possible
to do better. We need
Looks like it's probably worth uninstalling all of the packagekit
stuff if you don't want this horrendous anti-feature.
Turns out I had only packagekit itself installed. Shouldn't its
description mention this horrendous anti-feature? I couldn't agree
more on the wording. Actually I consider
I'm unclear as to what you have installed that triggers this, because I've
been using systemd and sid for eons and have never encountered this
behavior. (That also makes me pretty sure, pace Steve, that this is not
something *systemd* as systemd is actually doing, but some other
component.)
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❦ 26 août 2015 05:23 +0200, Michael Meskes mes...@debian.org :
Looks like it's probably worth uninstalling all of the packagekit
stuff if you don't want this horrendous anti-feature.
Turns out I had only packagekit itself installed. Shouldn't its
description mention this horrendous
PK does understand apt holds - only Aptitude doesn't set them correctly,
see bug #683099
I wasn't talking about existing holds, but about an update strategy that
prioritized removing packages like gnome-control-center over putting
some other on hold automatically. I would expect an automatic
❦ 25 août 2015 22:37 GMT, Bas Wijnen wij...@debian.org :
We need to leave the Javascript ecosystem mature a bit more but in the
meantime, a bit of tolerance would be appreciated
The minifier is a compiler. If it's not in main, files that are compiled with
it cannot be in main. For
On Aug 25, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
- for i386, there is still sold new hardware with 32bit-only. Are
there open issues for i386 (apart from the 32bit-generic ones)?
Discussion that we need to get rid of it one day should be started.
Can we fully support cross-grading to
On Aug 25, Ole Streicher oleb...@debian.org wrote:
What is the best way to keep these data up to date in Debian? An
automated process as written in the pull request [1] is probably not the
right way, since it is a potential privacy violation. One could let the
I am frankly tired of people
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Changed-By:
Hi all,
for astronomy (and probably for other parts of science) we need to
access data files that are updated from time to time. An example is the
difference between UTC and earth rotation. This data is updated every
week and is needed to precisely calculate the positions of stars on the
sky [1].
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On 17/08/15 11:07, Matthias Klose wrote:
There is now another test rebuild [2] done
with an augmented dh_makeshlibs printing cxx11 symbols in libraries [3]. No
new
bug reports were filed yet.
...
[2]
https://people.debian.org/~doko/logs/gcc5-20150813/archive-gcc-08-13-2015/
[3] deb
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Hi,
Am Dienstag, den 25.08.2015, 13:59 +0100 schrieb Ian Jackson:
If the answer is „Nothing is stopping, just that someone has to do it“,
then I’m volunteering, as long as I can do most of it during DebConf.
There are two problems that are stopping us doing this right away:
- Maybe
This is a feature of systemd and PackageKit.
See http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/SystemUpdates/
The only thing which makes use of this feature is GNOME through
GNOME-Software, so if you don't want this, removing GNOME-Software will be
enough.
Nothing else in Debian uses this[1].
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* Joachim Breitner nome...@debian.org [150823 07:24]:
With pow-priority, you mean one that does not get shown by default? But
is that much better than allowing the interested admin to change the
configuration afterwards?
Actually, I was thinking it should be similar to postfix, which looks
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* Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk, 2015-08-25, 19:08:
Not regenerating configure doesn't pose any significant risk that we're
shipping a configure script that we can't regenerate (or, at least,
regenerate an equivalent or better one).
Autotools stuff tends to bitrot, just like
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