if that happens (or rather
dpkg-genchanges), which isn't too hard to achive actually.
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* Adam Borowski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060809 12:19]:
On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 11:45:46PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
Full IPv6 support
=
There has been some confusion about the Etch release goal about IPv6. Our
understanding of that release goal is that all network
.
Is it really worth doing this?
I would like it, yes.
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foo, and having Depends cycle-free?
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* Stephen Gran ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060726 13:46]:
This one time, at band camp, Andreas Barth said:
Hi,
* Ian Jackson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060726 13:18]:
But, for example, foo -Depends- foo-data is not usually an example
of a silly dependency.
Actually, there is no reason why
both B and C are installed.
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Andreas Barth wrote:
Suggests is *way* weaker. The Needs would trigger automatic installation
with any tool. Actually, if
A-B (depends), B-C(depends), and C-B(Needs), then A won't be
configured until both B and C are installed.
What
package?
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So the rred is not a badly formatted and partially overwritten
transferred but an actual string?
it's a restricted version of ed.
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* Julian Gilbey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060614 10:54]:
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 10:32:36PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Julian Gilbey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060511 22:17]:
Does anyone know why the binary package gnome is no longer in testing?
The source package meta-gnome2
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Description:
gtkglarea5 - Gimp Toolkit OpenGL area widget shared library
gtkglarea5-dev - Gimp Toolkit OpenGL area widget include files and static
library
Closes: 318569 370196
Changes:
gtkglarea (1.2.3-2.1) unstable; urgency=low
.
* Non-maintainer upload
together
official Debian statements. This is ok, and good, but of course, that's
the exception and not the rule.
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* Andreas Barth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060510 23:10]:
we think the switch to gcc 4.1
as default should only be made if not more than 20 packages become RC
buggy by it. Also, the switch should happen latest 1.5 months prior to
freeze, that is Jun 15th.
As we are below the 20 packages count
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dmsetup- The Linux Kernel Device Mapper userspace library
dmsetup-udeb - The Linux Kernel Device Mapper userspace library (udeb)
libdevmapper-dev - The Linux Kernel Device Mapper header files
that Peter Palfrader (weasel) submits sometimes a clear fake key
to KSPs and looks for people signing it. (No, there is nobody there who
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* Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060525 08:15]:
On 24 May 2006, Andreas Barth stated:
* Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060524 17:54]:
So I guess you can still criticize folks for this if you want to,
but I know that my own ongoing notion of best practices comes
from stuff I
it be a good idea to make just sync the dev ref with what
you consider as best practice? (And, BTW, I make much effort to only
update the dev ref with correct information.)
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upload of a changed version of etpan-ng (with a conflict to the current
version of libetpan) could help? Gerfried, what do you think?
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* Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060511 08:59]:
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 11:10:48PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
there were some requests, e.g. by Martin Michlmayr to the release team
whether we could switch gcc to 4.1 or not for etch. As we're heading to
freeze etch rather soon
* Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060511 11:00]:
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 10:09:11AM +0200, Domenico Andreoli [EMAIL
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On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 11:10:48PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
Hi,
hi,
there were some requests, e.g. by Martin Michlmayr to the release team
. :)
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* Ganesan Rajagopal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060511 14:12]:
Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
An upload of python-defaults switching to 2.4 has been repeatedly asked
during the last months, and it was ignored by the maintainer. I'm not
aware of anything preventing this upload currently
* Julian Gilbey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060511 22:17]:
Does anyone know why the binary package gnome is no longer in testing?
The source package meta-gnome2 is there
Seems like an accident currently. We're researching the matter.
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an
updated version in etch, and the python team has been discussing it
apparently but there is a deafening silence about telling me what the
plan is.
Ok, I'll make sure there is some information latest for the next relese
update, which is due in May.
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* Thomas Bushnell BSG ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060512 00:00]:
Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
* Thomas Bushnell BSG ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060511 23:54]:
Domenico Andreoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
what about the transition to python 2.4? is it going to start or etch
is going
* Don Armstrong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060511 20:21]:
On Thu, 11 May 2006, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Ganesan Rajagopal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060511 14:12]:
Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
An upload of python-defaults switching to 2.4 has been repeatedly asked
during the last
. Please check also that you're not just disturbing a transition
(e.g. don't NMU packages in sid the day before they go to testing :).
Questions should go to debian-release also (though of course I read d-d
also :).
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reasonnable to me.
Actually, if someone installs etch r0, I expect that he can install etch
r5 without any hassle (unless ftp-master was hijacked :). This means
that the key used in r5 needs to be available in etch r0.
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* Darren Salt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060502 19:03]:
I demand that Andreas Barth may or may not have written...
* Brian Eaton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060501 19:21]:
On 5/1/06, Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or you could create the diffdebs before upload or on ftp-master, and
include
upgrades.
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* Brian Eaton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060501 16:42]:
On 5/1/06, Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Brian Eaton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060501 15:51]:
The only time delta packages will be a win is for upgrades where the
client has the original package cached.
If one does it right, it might
* Brian Eaton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060501 17:49]:
On 5/1/06, Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Brian Eaton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060501 16:42]:
On 5/1/06, Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If one does it right, it might be enough if the original package is
*installed
* Brian Eaton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060501 19:21]:
On 5/1/06, Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or you could create the diffdebs before upload or on ftp-master, and
include the diffdebs somehow in the Packages file (so they're signed as
well by the usual mechanismn).
My initial view
or almost so, and i strongly recomend you to go find another
distribution to run which cares a bit more about the powerpc architecture.
I'd rather prefer if you don't overexegerate.
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* Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 13:53]:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 13:23]:
Dear fellow powerpc folk, this clearly means that the debian support for
powerpc is dead or almost so, and i strongly
things remain.
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* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 17:03]:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 04:52:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 15:05]:
Andreas, do you have an explanation of why d-i commit access was taken
from
me, and why i find out only now as i was going
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* Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 18:38]:
c) The mipsel builds had been down nearly as long. And that machine
seems to be dead. Argh.
Would you need access to another mipsel machine?
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mgetty - Smart Modem getty replacement
mgetty-docs - Documentation Package for mgetty
mgetty-fax - Faxing tools for mgetty
mgetty-pvftools - Programs for listening and manipulating pvf and rmd files
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mgetty - Smart Modem getty replacement
mgetty-docs - Documentation Package for mgetty
mgetty-fax - Faxing tools for mgetty
mgetty-pvftools - Programs for listening and manipulating pvf and rmd files
mgetty
.
That will help us all, give you immediate feedback and makes sure there
are no unnecessary actions required.
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libapt was there. It
might be best to add apt-get install libc6 libc-bin to the upgrade
instructions.
If that is needed, please file a bug report against release-notes.
But it would better if that wouldn't be needed at all.
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developers-reference - guidelines and information for Debian developers
developers-reference-fr - guidelines and information for Debian developers, in
French
Closes: 295483 297069 298016 299217 302000 305947
the best way to read a package list into
python?)
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person got busy or demotivated. I suspect NEW
Well, that person is currently on the CeBIT and manning the Debian booth
there.
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* Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060312 12:24]:
Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, in case stockholm gets elected,
Sorry, where's the Wiki page describing codenames for DPL candidates?
Sorry for using the IRC name. I try to avoid that in mail, but failed
this time
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* Daniel Stone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060309 19:53]:
Please point me to a candidate who is claiming that 'there is no problem
and that we should all be friends'.
krooger.
Sorry, couldn't resist. :)
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, I would agree with you. However, s-p-u contains any kind
of packages right now.
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* Adeodato Simó ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060305 14:44]:
* Andreas Barth [Sun, 05 Mar 2006 14:16:50 +0100]:
Well, if s-p-u would *only* contained approved packages for the next
point release, I would agree with you. However, s-p-u contains any kind
of packages right now.
Right, I've
, etc.).
Only because you have a prejudice against volatile doesn't mean its the
wrong place. Volatile is rather the exactly right place for this kind of
update.
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* Anand Kumria ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060207 09:52]:
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 09:13:07AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Anand Kumria ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060207 04:34]:
I also think volatile is precisely the wrong place to put this kind of
data -- it isn't part of the default apt.sources
on how to
do it.
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* Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060115 10:00]:
If you remove cruft from one of your packages, do you start notifying
developers on d-d-a?
In case of the developers reference, I did.
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with not shipping the package.
No. Shipping unsupported packages no developer cares about is a bad idea.
Well, by definition if a package is too broken to support it, the bug is
RC.
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* Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060112 18:11]:
Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Christoph Berg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060112 16:28]:
Re: Thomas Viehmann in [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Really, how about just automatically[1] removing orphaned packages
without maintained rdepends from
* Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060112 19:36]:
Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060112 18:11]:
Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: Thomas Viehmann in [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Really
* David Nusinow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060112 21:47]:
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 09:35:18PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
However, on the other hand feel free to create a common maintained
packages team that adopts such packages :)
Isn't that pretty much what the qa team does?
Not really. All qa
the debian
archive. These people can IMHO sign the key.
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N-117 = Mon 30 Jul 06: freeze essential toolchain, kernels
N-110 = Mon 7 Aug 06: freeze base, non-essential toolchain (including
e.g. cdbs)
Why do you put the kernel together with the essential toolchain freeze, it
should
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060103 23:02]:
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 10:31:38PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
the other hand side, the difference is only one week - and if nothing is
broken by that, we can freeze the kernel at N-110 also.
i think comparing the kernel with the toolchain
some new wording available, or do you want till I find time to
fix it myself?
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case, of course, if foo Depends: foo-data, then foo-data
Enhances: foo is already implied.
Agreed.
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be part of the history. However, sadly,
it's still only project and not product quality. Any help on that would
be welcome.
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* Henry Jensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051117 10:13]:
This morning I cannot reach the LDAP server - again.
Has something changed again or is bts2ldap.debian.net just down?
it was just down, and is restarted right now.
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say in everything (that's why I Cced them). :)
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* Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [05 21:47]:
Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, my question is simple: should I push packages to go away from
kerberos-4-support? Unless there is a good reason to do not, I would
start to push into that direction. And of course, feel free
* Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [05 23:26]:
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You think that December 2006 (the expected release time of etch) is too
early to drop Kerberos 4?
I'm not sure. I think it's going to be tight for some people, but on the
other hand not shipping
for this.
The index-files are still available as files on merkel and master.
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You could send them e.g. a DMCA Takedown Notice. Especially as they
didn't listen before. Of course only if you're the author of one of the
relevant programms.
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Distribution: unstable
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libsasl2 - Authentication abstraction library
libsasl2-dev - Development files for authentication abstraction library
libsasl2-modules - Pluggable
* Glenn Maynard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051104 14:40]:
On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 02:05:43PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
* Wouter Verhelst:
Lets assume you have GPL-ed project dpkg. Any change to foo.c must be
contributed back to the community.
No, that's not true.
Any
* Anthony Towns (aj@azure.humbug.org.au) [051101 17:23]:
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 12:41:09PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
So, would anybody object if I set up a cronjob that emails the PTS
whenever a (source) package propagates to, or is removed from, testing?
I won't so nobody'd object;
* Aurelien Jarno ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051031 14:31]:
So it seems that unstable is again, as before the release, half-frozen.
Maybe we could change its name?
Seriously, I begin to consider that as a real problem. I am not blaming
you, release maintainers, you are doing your job. From my
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db3-doc- Berkeley v3 Database Documentation [html]
libdb3 - Berkeley v3 Database Libraries [runtime]
libdb3-dev - Berkeley v3 Database Libraries [development]
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db4.1-doc - Berkeley v4.1 Database Documentation [html]
db4.1-util - Berkeley v4.1 Database Utilities
libdb4.1 - Berkeley v4.1 Database Libraries [runtime]
libdb4.1-dev - Berkeley v4.1 Database Libraries [development]
Closes
* sean finney ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051026 14:20]:
On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 02:15:41PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote:
If a package's postrm removes the user, and the next package's postinst
just calls adduser, then the admin have no control over the reusing.
If you want to allow automatic
* Gabor Gombas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051026 18:03]:
On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 05:39:45PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
i don't think removing and reusing users is a good idea in practice.
what harm would there be in simply leaving the user account on the
system permenantly, with maybe
* Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051026 18:09]:
We can provide a sensible default for system users' removals that copes with
most situations and leave a door open (through debconf) to sysadmins that
want to fiddle with system users.
I really want to warn to try to be too
* Humberto Massa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051026 18:28]:
Andreas Barth wrote:
* Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051026 18:09]:
We can provide a sensible default for system users' removals that
copes with most situations and leave a door open (through debconf)
to sysadmins
* Humberto Massa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051026 18:34]:
in my workstation I try out a new package (for scientfic computing, a
game for Lucas, a new development package) at least once each two days,
and a lot of times they come with their libs and their daemons -- and
their users. So I see
* Humberto Massa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051026 18:48]:
Andreas Barth wrote:
* Humberto Massa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051026 18:34]:
in my workstation I try out a new package (for scientfic computing, a
game for Lucas, a new development package) at least once each two days,
and a lot of times
* Stephen Frost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051026 20:13]:
* Thomas Bushnell BSG ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Stephen Frost [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Same way you know that the system administrator hasn't modified a file
in /usr/bin.
Um, I know that by comparing the contents against a
* Stephen Frost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051026 20:46]:
Additionally, this is *not* a problem with the orphaning of the file,
it's a problem with the reuse of a previously-used uid. I could see
adding a system to track previously-used uids and not reusing them. I
don't believe using passwd for
* Stephen Frost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051026 20:58]:
Leaving around unused accounts is plainly wrong too, and also a
potential security risk.
I'm certain you can proof this.
If we're going to try to push for a broad
change in how this is handled then let's do it the *right* way by
creating
Hi,
as some of you already know, Anthony turned on tiffani on ftp-master.
As the tiffani on people is now longer needed (and also broken by this
change), I disabled the cronjob. Please just use your normal debian
mirror for support of partial lists.
Thanks for all your help, support, debugging
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* Domenico Andreoli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051007 10:59]:
is the run for openssl 0.9.8 started anyway? i have curl and
libapache-mod-ssl ready for the upload.
There is nothing one can stop anymore. It will be tied with the
c++-abi-transition soon enough.
Cheers,
Andi
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