to fix the
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> There were quite some bugs with that tool AFAIR. Does it also cover
> things that are not supported by Canonical? How does the development and
> testing of the tool work?
I think we can do better than having to rely on a weird tool to fix the issues
we produced by not d
ake the free software to do it with freedom.
Exactly. Or we can even use a hangout to develope a replacement for the
google+ hangout. :)
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> On Thu, 21 Jun 2012, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> Seriously, thats all fine stuff, but if having a hangout with 10+ people
>> on google+ helps Debian to get the bugs squashed, I can't see a reason
>> why we should not use it. It
#x27;t see a reason
why we should not use it. It is much more pain free to use than any
other solution we have in Debian.
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bugs on the version in Squeeze, while Peter
Palfrader (weasel) took care of Tor related things and Debian sysadmin work,
including starting on the new bugs and udd hosts. Phillip Hug (hug) worked on
the debian.ch infrastructure.
Together with Miroslav Suchý from Red Hat Bernd Zeimetz (bzed) worked
7;t just
> freeze on the current slang but ship the
> broken environment.
Try gcc/g++ 4.6 instead of 4.7. Maybe check if "S-Lang load path" (wherever that
is stored) is initialized in a sane way. I had a similar issue where an integer
was 0 all the time - although not being initialized
t;Source Code: irqbalance-0.56.tar.bz2 (28Kb)
>>
>> ?
>
> The project home page moved. The old one is out of date.
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On 06/14/2012 11:04 AM, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> Hi Bernd,
>
> Am Donnerstag, den 14.06.2012, 10:32 +0200 schrieb Bernd Zeimetz:
>>> I would like to see more flexibility in dpkg-source as to where the
>>> effective build depends come from. My use case are (as y
I don't think that your case is special enough to add yet an extra
option to dpkg-source. I have two packages where I'm changing much more
than the build-dependencies automatically, for example.
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package with
various uploaders (from a team...) got DM upload permissions and the other team
members became DMs later - obviously they got the same permissions then as soon
as they were in the Keyring.
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also an active maintainer which is able to
refer such cases to the TC by himself, there is no need to crowd-source this.
> As for the TC never having removed a maintainer against their will: I think
> the TC is institutionally conservative by design, and will tend to favor the
> s
just nobody uses it anymore because it is too old? 'Please package
the current upstream version'-bugs are wishlist only, unfortunately.
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On 05/31/2012 06:25 PM, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:
> On 31/05/12 18:15, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>>
>> Part of the common and established procedure is to mail d-devel if
>> you intend to hijack a package
>
> True, but it is _not_ common (nor acceptable) to let only 2-3 days fo
On 05/31/2012 04:57 PM, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:
> On 31/05/12 15:11, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> On 05/31/2012 03:03 AM, Steve Langasek wrote:
>>> [...]
>>
>>> A hijack is, by definition, a declaration by the hijacker that
>>> they believe they are not answera
ul input on how to fix
an obviously broken (since years!) process instead of trying to forcibly
trying to choke down people who actively want to improve Debian. Welcome
to the dictatorship of the TC.
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that is only really possible to do with "social pride"
> which is lacking when maintainer is outside of Debian.
Yet another job for the sponsor.
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documentation are you talking about? Most official documentation
should have a fixed URL.
If you are talking about the wiki: retrieving a fixed version from
moinmoin is the same as in mediawiki.
So I can't see a useful argument here, only FUD trying to talk people
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> PS. An RFP, perhaps?
Better look into packaging gitlabhq.
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t be relevant to Debian since we have it in Debian and
> even have a mailing list dedicated to it:
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-lsb/
>
> Apparently LSB 5.0 will drop the Qt3 requirement:
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-lsb/2012/02/msg9.html
Then we should either
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> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 09:24:04AM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> On 05/17/2012 04:52 PM, Gergely Nagy wrote:
>>>> I'm confused concerning the above; the point of a VCS in thi
but
> it's still better than fighting with integrating quilt with a VCS (in
> which case, everyone with a higher number of patches would go back to
> 1.0 and custom patching systems and ignore every other benefit of 3.0,
> because quilt and VCS generally don'
installations is that the
debian packages are too old to be really useful. Most plugins seem to require
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Hi,
although I think the wordpress maintainer are doing all they can do to keep
wordpress in a good shape in Debian, I do not think that it is possible
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try to find a consensus about which program will have to be renamed. If
a consensus cannot be reached, both programs must be renamed.
And this is - looking at this way too long thread - the best solution
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if they are not
>> fitting.
>
> Er, what? Please don't throw out silly strawmen...
Stephan's points are valid. Just having a link on your favourite cisco does not
mean that you are allowed to send packets anywhere yet. Getting a ipv6 address
via radvd d
On 04/29/2012 04:11 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 14:59 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> On 04/27/2012 03:28 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 08:55 +0800, Patrick Lauer wrote:
>>>> On 04/27/12 03:32, Adam Borowski wrote:
>>&g
gt;>
>> udev is just the reference implementation. mdev [part of busybox] can do
>> the same (modulo rules: it has a slightly simpler format that doesn't
>> provide exactly the same features (yet))
> [...]
>
> Sure, for Linux in general you have other options like mde
do something after your
devices appear, use udev. As traffic yo your iscsi disk will be queued in case
the connection gets lost there is also no need to find something new to handle
link up/down events. If your link is gone forever there is a broken filesystem
and some stuck IO fun
ery
> package like those listed above that needs the network to loop and retry
> if the network isn't available when it first starts. This is a huge waste
> of effort.
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>> time could disrupt the boot then I think that most people would consider it
>> as
>> ready for a release.
>>
> Especially considering that we can fix stuff in Stable
> if the release team agrees...
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about it before doing anything. If anyone fancies
> doing the packaging, I'll be happy to join in. I'll probably be able
> to provide a better overview once I know a bit more.
>
>
> Regards,
> Roger
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dencies the same as insserv?
> How about old scripts lacking dependency info? Are the dependencies
> computed dynamically or generated? (insserv hooks into update-rc.d)
>
>
> Regards,
> Roger
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modified) creates the relevant device
> nodes, etc).
And udev does this jus fine, I don't need systemd or whatever else on
top of that.
> I agree that automatically mounting usb sticks or such on servers would
> be more than silly, and haven't suggested that (neither have the u
On 04/19/2012 05:38 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Bernd Zeimetz writes:
>
>> That would require that the tech-ctte's decisions do not take months or
>> years. They are fast if they really need to be, but in such general
>> cases the time a descision takes is imho way to
is imho way too long and frustrating
for all involved people. I would prefer a solution which involves the
ctte only if there is no other way.
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ce nearlly half a decade).
I think it might even be useful to talk to both upstreams to ask them to rename
one of the project to avoid such issues.
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; though probably just a subset so it's portable to other kernels and init
> systems.
Sounds like a good plan to make the fanboys of both sides of the world
happy - I have no idea if its possible, but maybe also generate upstart
configs?
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> Bernd Zeimetz writes:
>> On 03/17/2012 08:20 PM, Marco d'Itri wrote:
>>> On Mar 17, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>
>>>> Have you noticed that both myself and Phil Hands took the decision to
>>>> write a sy
s not an issue.
Obviously you were born as an expert.
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> init system available, will you reconsider?
Yes. Reconsider to use Linux in case I'm forced to use stuff like systemd.
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>
> What is the benefit, for our users, to be able to choose between two
> implementations?
They are *free* in what they choose.
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equire *modifications to upstream code* to
> support socket-based activation.
Is that compatible to what systemd requires? Various projects start
supporting systemd, so enabling such a feature for upstart would be
easier if the systemd stuff is implemented alread
to /etc/initramfs-tools - that is a sane and
obvious way to handle such things.
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... and then it is just wishlist again. Having /tmp on / is as bad as
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Remember, just because something still applies and compiles properly it
doesn't mean it works...
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ain the patch for stable releases. But they are not willing to
support Debian as they neither use Debian nor have any interest in
supporting the Debian kernel.
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ecurity enabled to have a more or less save-enough
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a DEP should not do that at all, at
least not without asking on common lists first. No reaction on your DEP
could just mean that people consider it as a waste of time or don't like
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gt; I guess I'll push it to unstable. If there are issues reported, we'll
> see about its inclusion for the stable release, then.
I'd suggest to do so, too. In the worst case it could be removed from testing
before the release. As soon as there is a software ta
ven for a severity:minor bug.
I think it should, might be even a higher severity, depending on what the
content of these files is - especially .install and similar files might produce
not so funny results if you execute them accidentally.
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>> /bin/sh never hurt anybody!
>
> Except that it forces your interpreter to be written in sh, which Debian
> doesn't
> like[1][2].
>
> [1] http://lintian.debian.org/tags/script-with-language-extension.html
> [2] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-poli
On 12/09/2011 07:42 AM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Bernd Zeimetz writes:
>
>> On 12/07/2011 11:47 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote:
>>> Now that we’ve made incredible progress in terms of obfuscation, I’d
>>> appreciate if we could have a working solution that does
yes, you could even fork (its open source!) a dh_install package - or
instead of wasting ftp master resources, just ship your own dh_install script in
your debian folders.
I'll happily use the new dh_install feature instead of whining.
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gt; was going on and how he could help, if he had approached me saying that
> Debian sucks.
Yes, I'm glad too that he didn't experience the same issue with about 50% of the
packages he uses as he would think in a different way then.
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On 12/03/2011 05:33 PM, Andrew Starr-Bochicchio wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 7:14 AM, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> - Ubuntu splitted the package and applied various changes without getting in
>> contact with their Debian upstream about it. I'm not willing to try to figure
>
ill
be orphaned soon and I'll file bugs to remove it from the packages which
build-depend on it.
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nto conflict.
I think we should for these cases where it is obvious that one software
exists for a much longer time than the other. We should not force old
projects to rename themselves just because the developers of a new
project did not investigate if they use an existing name. Checking
filenames of
.
How the source is distributed does not matter. Please don't abuse this
for yet another dpkg 3.0 git discussion.
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On 11/01/2011 11:23 PM, Josh Triplett wrote:
> Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> And I believe that NM should not be something gnome should depend on as
>> there are various other ways to configure your network. Imho it should
>> Recommend network-manage | wicd-gtk | similar-tools-if-t
On 11/01/2011 05:54 PM, Florian Reitmeir wrote:
[...]
> i believe a way of installing network-manager, but disabling it
> completly would be enough for many people.
Although harddisk space is cheap these days, this should not be the preferred
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upstream? I don't think so. And I believe that NM should not be something gnome
should depend on as there are various other ways to configure your network. Imho
it should Recommend network-manage | wicd-gtk | similar-tools-if-they-exist.
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> How can I link with libc6-dbg instead of regular libc6? Thanks.
http://wiki.debian.org/HowToGetABacktrace
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ot;jimtcl". Although it's probably smaller.
As network-manager is the reason why usb-modeswitch is in the default desktop
install (which makes sense) - does size really matter here? NM pull in a lot of
libraries and tools, without checking it I'd guess that adding tcl or jim
On 10/09/2011 03:26 PM, Harald Dunkel wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Does anybody know some way to bind an action to the button
> most usb sata docking stations come with?
please ask on debian-user, which is a much more appropriate list for
such questions.
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t; to sqweek.dnsdojo.org from pages like
> http://packages.debian.org/sid/9mount ?
Its generated from the information in the control file of the last
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packages I maintain, mainly due to LDFLAGS breaking the build of Python
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_CFLAGS = $(CFLAGS)
else
GMIC_CFLAGS = -g -O0
endif
endif
endif
Not the best solution as it means that gmic will be slow(er) on arm and mips at
least, but the only working solution.
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the licenses If
you just use Apache to serve stuff and the ldap server - then there are
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ribe to the bug
mails of a package. We should make it easier for upstreams to subscribe
to bts mails. May be also implement a weekly summary of bug mails
instead of spamming every single bug mail.
Just my 2c :)
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armel computers do ?
The mipsel port is used by the Lemote Notebooks/mini Desktops for example, which
come pre-installed with Debian. Not sure if they have popcon enabled at all. And
I guess mipsel is more a target for Embedian. No idea about usage statistics
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on edge firewalls because it's way easier
> for a standard linux / debian admin. And please don't put hurd-i386 in
> the same camp as kbsd. They're not.
Hurd is far away from being useful while kfreebsd offers a great mic of
a good kernel and a usable userland (instead of t
ms which run Debian or derivates of Debian. So looking at the list
of architectures, the only one I could imagine to get rid of at some
point would be sparc, maybe powerpc and ia64.
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On 08/29/2011 07:15 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 29/08/11 at 18:21 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> On 08/29/2011 04:49 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>>> I'm also completely tired of investigating issues which are already
>>> known to porters, which is unavoidable if
maintainer probably know the source times better than the porter and you
should be able to come up with something useful to debug much faster? We
don't have enough porters to throw all the longish tasks on them, imho
the maintainer should go to porters with an arch specific problem to
solve, no
would get a lot of issues which are nothing porters
need to solve, like libraries not being available as the hardware just
doesn't exist for that architecture or test suites failing for various
random reasons.
If you want a help from a porter, imho you should present a problem in a
wa
please file an ITP bug,
otherwise a RFP bug. See the 'Using wnpp' part of
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/
> Any advices are strongly welcome.
If you intend to maintain the package in Debian, http://mentors.debian.net/ is a
good start.
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If it runs somewhere else, you can't modify the remote pg_hba.conf.
To add new databases (and roles) to postgres, look into dbconfig-common.
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On 07/19/2011 11:16 PM, Svante Signell wrote:
> Couldn't you block the creation of weekly and daily builds when things
> like this happen?
Weekly and daily builds of the installer are done to be able to find such bugs.
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But its a long time ago that I looked into the differences and talked with the
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On 07/17/2011 08:13 AM, Neil Williams wrote:
>
> More usefully, the dd-list of the packages is attached.
>
> Bernd Zeimetz
>gpsd
>zbar
Both fixed in git, will be included in the next upload.
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On 07/05/2011 12:35 PM, SP wrote:
> Has this been fixed in upstream? Is there a work around?
>
> Bug has been filed here:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dh-make/+bug/803882
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le to just accept some of the changes we've made even
> though you think it makes URLs uglier. They're done to avoid cyclic
> dependencies between services.
Please explain that. I can't see how a cyclic dependency could happen
there. And I still think loosing
On 05/31/2011 04:03 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> Can't we fix that in a point release, by backporting fixes?
That would be appreciated!
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uld be taken care of as soon as possible imho. Unfortunately
I'm swamped with work so I want have the time to help and discuss, but
if you need a sponsor for packages don't hesitate to ask.
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heir awaited triggers?
>
> python-support seems to need that; python does not see files in
> /usr/share/pyshared/, so until update-python-modules has run, a python
> module cannot be used.
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should not be possible to find a sane way to make it available.
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ewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/.+\.git.*$
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/repos/.*$
RewriteRule ^.*$ /gitweb.cgi%{REQUEST_URI} [L,PT]
which should be similar to alioth's needs.
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nobody will be able to help you.
The only thing you are doing is to waste time.
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Even better would be http://git.debian.org/devscripts/devscripts.git
which is easy to handle with some rewrites.
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not funyy and such massice changes without even discussing them first
makes the new alioth unusable for me.
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n be used
> to run any random stuff by anyone).
What happened to the crontabs? I hope that importing upstream's git and
svn repositories into those used for Debian development is not 'random
stuff'.
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nfiguration.
Or even better, use ferm instead.
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> default.
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enough to avoid the need to repeat them all over the
> place, IHMO.
While we don't need this kind of bashing, the issue needs to be fixed
somehow, indeed.
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