Re: Does debian have an official standard scripting language ?

1998-10-10 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Santiago Vila wrote: On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Geoffrey L. Brimhall wrote: Just like debian has an official standard shell - bash, does debian have an official scripting language ? Even if bash is essential, the standard shell is sh, not bash. [ If you look at our

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-04 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Sat, 3 Oct 1998, Martin Schulze wrote: Ben Gertzfield wrote: Here's what imdb.com says: Cast overview, first billed only: snip imdb.com lists the following named characters on the full cast page: Tom Hanks Woody (voice) Tim Allen Buzz Lightyear (voice) Don

Re: so what? Re: Debian development modem

1998-06-13 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Ian Jackson wrote: snip ... but there are times when you just have to make a clean break. Going between libc versions was one of those times, as was going from a.out to elf. Otherwise, what are major number changes for? This is simply not true. When we moved from

Re: Debian Re-organization proposals (was: Re: so what?)

1998-06-04 Thread Bill Mitchell
On 3 Jun 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: snip b) we neeed to release more often, and on schedule (I like guys proposal of an updated stable pool that can be tested continuuls, frozen, and released fast -- since there are never any release critical bugs in the stable pool, the

Re: Sub-categorizing the /usr/doc directory.

1997-06-30 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Sun, 29 Jun 1997, Jim Pick wrote: One complication I can think of - dselect and the ftp sites have the concept of overrides, where Guy can change the section a package is assigned to. This wouldn't be reflected in the /usr/doc directory - of course, this might not really matter. I think

Re: Policy wrt Important (was Re: dc and bc in Important?)

1997-06-28 Thread Bill Mitchell
On 25 Jun 1997, John Goerzen wrote: By the current definition of Important: [...] sendmail * dpkg-dev should not be there since no experienced user of another Unix would expect it * lilo should not be there because lilo is not part of UNIX I read it differently: ``Important

debian in ROM (was: Re: Editor wars considered harmful)

1997-06-25 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, SirDibos wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Jon Rabone wrote: Or if anyone interested, make up a special ROM with kernel etc in it, so the machine will boot from ROM... Has anyone done this? You'd need about 512 kB of ROM. Where are you going to put it? Ethercard boot

Re: dc and bc in Important?

1997-06-25 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, David Frey wrote: [...] ``Important programs, including those which one would expect to find on any Unix-like system. If the expectation is that an experienced Unix person who found it missing would go `What the F*!@+ is going on, where is foo', it should be in

RE: debian in ROM (was: Re: Editor wars considered harmful)

1997-06-25 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Michael Meskes wrote: Is there soemthing like a real rescue disk? Or are we talking about the installation disks? I was referring to resq installation boot disk. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble?

Re: Summary: File locking discussion

1997-06-24 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Philip Hands wrote: [...] I think we need to write two libraries: 1) libnfslock(or whatever) 2) libmailaccess (or whatever) libmailaccess should be something like PAM for mail delivery, providing access to a user's mailbox by use of either

Re: cu (was: Upcoming Debian Releases)

1997-06-24 Thread Bill Mitchell
Just picking a nit. On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Brian C. White wrote: [...](cu stands for callout, and is taken from SunOS). [...] -- Theodore Ts'o [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless I'm mistaken (which has happened on occasion), cu stands for call unix and is

Re: debian lists sent to anon.petet.fi ??

1996-06-30 Thread Bill Mitchell
with orphan packages + [...snipped...] Pine saved the following header from the outgoing message: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jun 29 06:45:30 1996 Status: O X-Status: Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 06:45:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Departure -- hopefully temporary

1996-06-30 Thread Bill Mitchell
PROTECTED] # need elf X11 xasteroids-5.0 gone to Klee Dienes [EMAIL PROTECTED] # not elf-ized yet kermit-190 gone to Susan G. Kleinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Mitchell)

Re: Departure -- hopefully temporary

1996-06-30 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Sun, 30 Jun 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote: If no one else wants it, I think I have room on my plate for ae. Is the bug still outstanding? You're the first one to speak up, so I guess it's yours. I've cleared the multi-arch compatability bug in ae, and made similar changes to clear the same

Re: unsubscribe mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com

1996-06-30 Thread Bill Mitchell
Agh!! Sorry.

my last three packages

1996-06-30 Thread Bill Mitchell
to Klee Dienes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Mitchell)

Re: 1.2 modem devices

1996-06-16 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Peter Tobias wrote: IMHO we should change our comm packages for Debian 1.2 to use /dev/ttyS* instead of /dev/cua*: I'm hardly expert in standard practices in this area, but I'm under the impression that the cua* devices are for dial-out. This may not be definitive, but I

cfengine-1.2.14-3

1996-01-07 Thread Bill Mitchell
Date: 07 Jan 96 18:07 UT Source: cfengine Binary: cfengine Version: 1.2.14-3 Description: cfengine: A tool for configuring and maintaining operating systems Priority: Low Changes: * rebuilt for elf Files: -rw-r--r-- 1 root staff 237483 Jan 7 10:07 cfengine-1.2.14-3.tar.gz

Bug#2101: xserver packages fail installation in postinst

1996-01-07 Thread Bill Mitchell
Package: xserver-svga Version: 3.1.2 Revision: 2 (and, I'd guess, other xserver packages as well) The package won't install on a 0.93r6 system without a previous X11 installation. It presumes the existence of nonexistent things, and fails in postinst when they're not found. Script started on

file naming convention for debian package files (was: Re: dselect FTP method ...)

1996-01-05 Thread Bill Mitchell
Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: There are a couple of things I want to set people straight on, in this area: * dpkg and other packages written especially for Debian don't have a revision number because a revision number would be meaningless and confusing. The most recent guidelines

Bug#2060: dpkg and depends on version again

1996-01-05 Thread Bill Mitchell
How about = = for less/greater than or equal to Ok for strictly less/greater thani Ok for less/greater than or equal to (backwards compatibility, generates warning from dpkg-deb) Ok but an fatal error from dpkg-deb would be better than just a warning. How about no

Bug#2085: /usr/lib/termcap/l/linux kbs Capname definition questioned

1996-01-03 Thread Bill Mitchell
should be changed from kbs=^H to kbs=^?. Or am I missing something which should be obvious to me? [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Mitchell)

ae-493-10

1996-01-02 Thread Bill Mitchell
Date: 03 Jan 96 02:24 UT Source: ae Binary: ae Version: 493-10 Description: ae: Anthony's Editor -- a tiny full-screen editor Priority: Low Changes: elf package * fixed some keymapping problems in ae.rc * disabled #ifdef BADCURSES block in header.h Files: -rw-r--r--

ae-493-9

1996-01-01 Thread Bill Mitchell
Date: 01 Jan 96 03:41 UT Source: ae Binary: ae Version: 493-9 Description: ae: Anthony's Editor -- a tiny full-screen editor Priority: Low Changes: elf package * rebuilt using ncurses shared lib * changed ncurses-runtime dependency to ncurses3.0 Files: -rw-r--r-- 1

less-290-8

1996-01-01 Thread Bill Mitchell
Date: 01 Jan 96 04:28 UT Source: less Binary: less Version: 290-8 Description: less: A file pager program, similar to more(1) Priority: Low Changes: elf package * rebuilt using ncurses shared lib * changed ncurses-runtime dependency to ncurses3.0 Files: -rw-r--r-- 1

ee-1.72-7

1996-01-01 Thread Bill Mitchell
Date: 01 Jan 96 05:17 UT Source: ee Binary: ee Version: 1.72-7 Description: ee: An easy editor for novices and compuphobics Priority: Low Changes: elf package * removed spurious dependency on ncurses-runtime Files: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root63866 Dec 31 21:16

beav-140-6

1996-01-01 Thread Bill Mitchell
Date: 01 Jan 96 04:01 UT Source: beav Binary: beav Version: 140-6 Description: beav: Binary Editor And Viewer (beav) Priority: Low Changes: * rebuilt using ncurses shared lib * changed ncurses-runtime dependency to ncurses3.0 Files: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 131150

git-4.3.7-6

1996-01-01 Thread Bill Mitchell
total 15184 lrwxrwxrwt 1 1 debian 34 Jan 2 00:46 D - /debian.org/ftp/debian/development drw-rw-r-- 2 1 debian 512 Jan 1 21:00 HOLD drwxr-xr-x 2 1 debian 1024 Jan 1 21:00 NOT-ANNOUNCED drwxr-xr-x 2 1 debian 1024 Jan 1 21:00 NOT-COMPLETE -rw-r--r-- 1

Bug#2077: mdir says fat_read: Wrong FAT encoding? on valid dos partition

1995-12-31 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Sun, 31 Dec 1995, Mark W. Eichin wrote: [...] I'll note that while the man page suggests a #CHK_FAT=FALSE option, the strings appear nowhere in the executables, leading me to suspect that it isn't actually recognized. Release information: debian 0.93r6 Thanks for reporting this. The

Bug#2076: reset(1)

1995-12-30 Thread Bill Mitchell
PACKAGE: ncurses-bin VERSION: 1.9.8a-3 On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Ian Murdock wrote: I moved the tput package out of the distribution and into /debian/private/project/obsolete a few weeks ago. Is there any reason we should save it? I didn't delete it because I wasn't sure. I assume that

Re: Bug#2042: less-290-5

1995-12-23 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Fri, 22 Dec 1995, Ian Murdock wrote: On Mon, 18 Dec 1995, Bill Mitchell wrote: Fixed in less-290-7, just uploaded to pixar. Don't you mean ftp.debian.org? I think I uploaded it to pixar. There were several notices a week or two back that uploads to ftp.debian.org should

dchanges (was: m4 rebuilt as ELF)

1995-12-23 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Fri, 22 Dec 1995, Ian Murdock wrote: Actually, it should be in the distribution. Where should I put it? The control file says Section: misc. That seemed to me to be the most appropriate place.

Re: binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories

1995-12-23 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Sat, 23 Dec 1995, Ian Murdock wrote: I've created binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories under the development tree. They're both empty at the moment, of course, but they're ready for use whenever the development teams have something to put there. (BTW, I plan to rename binary to

Bug#2061: xbase-3.1.2-5 fails install on 0.93R6 system

1995-12-22 Thread Bill Mitchell
John Larkin said: I've just created a brand-new 0.93R6 system. Installing xlib and xbase worked flawlessly. That's a suprise, considering the problems I'm seeing. The system I attempted the installation to wasn't quite virgin. I did a new 0.93R6 installation to it about a week ago, and have

Bug#2062: ftp.debian.org:/debian/development ms-dos links are stale

1995-12-22 Thread Bill Mitchell
* 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls. -rw-rw-r-- 1 1 debian 721328 Dec 17 13:09 xlib-3.1.2-3.deb 226 Transfer complete. ftp quit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Mitchell)

Re: Parsing package filenames (was: Re: New ftp method for dselect)

1995-12-21 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Wed, 20 Dec 1995, Bruce Perens wrote: I we can either rename existing packages, or use the double-dash. I don't care which. ... The most reasonable approach seems to me (of course) to be the one which I've been arguing -- a naming standard very close to current practice, minimizing

Bug#2061: xbase-3.1.2-5 fails install on 0.93R6 system

1995-12-21 Thread Bill Mitchell
/usr/bin/X11.old fi ! if [ -e /usr/lib/X11 -a ! -L /usr/lib/X11 ] then echo Warning: /usr/lib/X11 was not a symlink. It has been moved to echo /usr/lib/X11.old [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Mitchell)

Re: Parsing package filenames (was: Re: New ftp method for dselect)

1995-12-20 Thread Bill Mitchell
Fernando Alegre [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [...] the whole sunsite and tsx archives, which store packages with an almost standard format. Even though they are not Debian packages right now, some (many?) could be in the future. And the debianized name should be as close to the upstream name

Re: Parsing package filenames (was: Re: New ftp method for dselect)

1995-12-20 Thread Bill Mitchell
brian (b.c.) white [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If the extension can contain dashes, once again it could cause parsing problems. Eliminating dashes (or dots, for that matter) here would again make it fit into a regular expression. Yup. Thanks for pointing that out. EXT should disallow dashes.

ee-1.72-6

1995-12-19 Thread Bill Mitchell
Uploaded to pixar, announced to debian.devel Date: 19 Dec 95 03:40 UT Source: ee Binary: ee Version: 1.72-6 Description: ee: An easy editor for novices and compuphobics Priority: Low Changes: elf package * rebuilt for elf Files: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root63763 Dec

elvis-1.8pl4-21

1995-12-19 Thread Bill Mitchell
Uploaded to pixar, announced to debian.devel Date: 19 Dec 95 04:02 UT Source: elvis Binary: elv-ctags elv-fmt elv-vi Version: 1.8pl4-21 Description: elv-ctags: generate tags and (optionally) refs files elv-fmt: Adjust line-length for paragraphs of text elv-vi: elvis, ex, vi, view, input -

Bug#2042: less-290-5

1995-12-19 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Mon, 18 Dec 1995, Dale Scheetz wrote: less-290-5 has been patched for the /proc filesystem, except that when you less a proc file, less eats the first character of the report. Fixed in less-290-7, just uploaded to pixar.

ae-493-8

1995-12-19 Thread Bill Mitchell
Uploaded to pixar, announced to debian.devel Date: 19 Dec 95 03:12 UT Source: ae Binary: ae Version: 493-8 Description: ae: Anthony's Editor -- a tiny full-screen editor Priority: Low Changes: elf package * use elf ncurses libs instead of aout curses libs * change

ncurses slowness with elf elvis

1995-12-19 Thread Bill Mitchell
that, on my slow 6.65 BogoMips system, the screen flashes annoyingly when I hit the ESC key using the -21 version. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Mitchell)

beav-140-5

1995-12-19 Thread Bill Mitchell
Uploaded to pixar, announced to debian.devel Date: 19 Dec 95 03:17 UT Source: beav Binary: beav Version: 140-5 Description: beav: Binary Editor And Viewer (beav) Priority: Low Changes: elf package * rebuilt for elf Files: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 131135 Dec 18

Bug#2048: Broken pipe from dpkg to head

1995-12-19 Thread Bill Mitchell
debian package, version 0.939000. root:work# exit Script done on Mon Dec 18 21:20:45 1995 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Mitchell)

Bug#2047: grep segfaults when abused

1995-12-19 Thread Bill Mitchell
1995 /proc/kcore is 16MB on my system. However, this doesn't seem to be due to file size (I tried cat /usr/bin/* | od | grep trash and didn't provoke a segfault). [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Mitchell)

Re: New ftp method for dselect

1995-12-19 Thread Bill Mitchell
Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Bill Mitchell writes (Re: New ftp method for dselect): dchanges(1) seems to parse distribution filenames OK, though the parsing code is pretty ugly. If it's broken, please let me know. Seems to do it OK isn't good enough - we need something

Re: Bug#2048: Broken pipe from dpkg to head

1995-12-19 Thread Bill Mitchell
Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: RTFM bash(1). Thanks for the pointer, Ian. I'm sure that you thought that it would be very helpful

Parsing package filenames (was: Re: New ftp method for dselect)

1995-12-19 Thread Bill Mitchell
brian (b.c.) white [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I looked into this more closely and it seems that most of the packages that once had dashes in the version stings are now gone. If neither the version nor revision strings can have dashes, then counting -'s will break up the filename without having

Re: Package Verification

1995-12-19 Thread Bill Mitchell
Bruce said, regarding Packages file info: I think a field with the size _and_ MD5 checksum on the same line would be helpful. We don't collect this information anywhere else, to my knowledge. The sum(1) checksum might also be useful. I know that sum(1) has been characterized here as totally

Re: m4 rebuilt as ELF

1995-12-18 Thread Bill Mitchell
I haven't figured out how to create a .changes file yet (any pointers would be appreciated) but it should look something like this: You need the dchanges package. Ian Murdock has been holding off moving it into the distribution. The last time I looked, it was in

Re: ALPHA-TEST permissions

1995-12-17 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Sun, 17 Dec 1995, Ian Murdock wrote: Well, we appear to have two options. We can (1) leave the development release in an unreadable directory, as it is at present; or (2) move the development release back into a readable directory, making it clear that it's still under development. Am I

Re: /etc/fstab.sample

1995-12-17 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Sun, 17 Dec 1995, Ian Murdock wrote: The mount package contains a configuration file /etc/fstab.sample. Would it not be better to include this file in /usr/doc/examples, or does something actually depend on it being in /etc? As far as I know, nothing depends on it being in /etc, so

Re: ALPHA-TEST permissions

1995-12-17 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Mon, 18 Dec 1995, Karl Ferguson wrote: ... relocating the development release ...] Ian, if you do decide to do number 2, could you please give us a little notice by posting to devel beforehand? I just dont want to have to delete and re-mirror the 1.0 stuff (as well as the other

Re: xsnow-1.40-0 (new package)

1995-12-17 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Mon, 18 Dec 1995, Stephen Early wrote: xsnow (1.40-0); priority=LOW I thought about packaging this, but interpreted the copyright as requiring that it be placed in non-free, so I didn't. Just raising a concern.

0.93 - 1.1 upgrade procedure?

1995-12-16 Thread Bill Mitchell
I rendered by system nonfunctional today. It wasn't entirely unexpected, but it was disappointing. I downloaded a snapshot of the development tree packages, and ran dselect [I]nstall on them. (Ian J. -- FYI, this was with dpkg-1.0.5, subsequent to the problems I've emailed you about). The

Bug#2002: Missing manpages

1995-12-14 Thread Bill Mitchell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) siad: If their copyright is acceptable, why not put them in the package? FSF (really Richard Stallman) is attempting to discourage the use of man pages and replace them with info pages. Info pages have the disadvantage of requiring a navigation mechanism to do

diff-2.7-8 uploaded to pixar

1995-12-14 Thread Bill Mitchell
b54a6c19ee3bc8223e5939a954425b0e diff-2.7-8.diff.gz 8d04697816249e72ff0985c0ae23c37c diff-2.7-8.deb [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Mitchell)

Re: Bug#1979: auctex postinst is completely insane

1995-12-12 Thread Bill Mitchell
James A. Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The postinst backgrounds itself. How can you tell if it succeeds or fails ? [... (30 to 45 minutes on an old 486 w/ 8 megs RAM) ...] Perhaps I should have postinst ask whether or not the .el file should be generated? And have a script to go

e2-2.0.beta-3 uploaded

1995-12-10 Thread Bill Mitchell
8bd3325f8de28a4be13bf4404f1c7d8a e2-2.0.beta-3.deb [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Mitchell)

Re: 1.0 on Infomagic CD

1995-12-10 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, Richard Kettlewell wrote: On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Bruce Perens wrote: We can't put stuff like this where just anybody can download it any longer. Especially, we can't do that and call it 1.0. This isn't entirely Infomagic's fault, in my opinion. [...] As I understand it,

Re: symlink in /usr/include (fwd)

1995-12-10 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, Chris Fearnley wrote: 'Ian Murdock wrote:' How about installing the kernel headers directly in /usr/include, rather than linking them into /usr/src? I always assumed this was standard kernel practice. Apparently, I was wrong. Are there any opinions on the subject?

Re: Downloading from US sites

1995-12-10 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, Matthew Bailey wrote: If you want an OUTGOING then someone will have to create one by manually moving the files from Incoming over to OUTGOING. Sounds reasonable to me. Files get uploaded to Incoming, and then either moved directly or (my preference) moved into a

upgrading to ncurses-1.9.8a (and subsequent)

1995-12-10 Thread Bill Mitchell
: warning: can't open /usr/X11R5/lib (No such file or directory), skipping [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Mitchell)

Re: 1.0 on Infomagic CD

1995-12-10 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, Richard Kettlewell wrote: That's essentially identical to what I was proposing with just two practical differences: (1) it uses numbers rather than names and (2) it goes to more effort to hide things. May be. I'm afraid I too-hurriedly deleted the message with your

Bug#1996: ncurses terminal defs and infocmp

1995-12-10 Thread Bill Mitchell
-boldxterms x1700-lm xenix xerox820 xterm-color x1720 xerox xl83 xterm-nic Suggest inclusion of terminal defs matching the compiled-in fallbacks into /usr/lib/terminfo. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Mitchell)

Bug#1997: ncurses linux terminal definition for kbs

1995-12-10 Thread Bill Mitchell
, the backspace key should be recognized as kbs, and the DEL key as kdch1. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Mitchell)

Bug#2002: Missing manpages

1995-12-10 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, Owen S. Dunn wrote: Package: diff Version: 2.7 Revision: 5 This package provides no man pages for any of diff, diff3, sdiff, or cmp. Too true. It comes with info pages, which are not at all the same thing. I think the current custom is to leave bug reports about

Infomagic and 1.0

1995-12-09 Thread Bill Mitchell
Since Infomagic has pressed the CDs, I wonder if it'd be possible to get them to include an insert with distributed CDs explaining the situation. Otherwise CD buyers are going to be put off debian when they try it from the CD. Just a thought. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Mitchell)

1.0 and package announcements

1995-12-09 Thread Bill Mitchell
made from the distribution site when the packages are moved into public view. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Mitchell)

Re: Source package format - a simple proposal

1995-12-09 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Ian Murdock wrote: On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, Bruce Perens wrote: From: Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6a. No unnecessary up/down-loading by maintainers. Is this such a big issue? With your overseas FTP problems you can judge that, but I'd feel more confident if the

Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com

1995-12-09 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: I think ncurses wins an award for most packages from one source archive. I'm not sure about that. I've had several instances of multiple rapid-fire uploads due to upload glitches and due to my own boneheaded errors 8^(.

Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com

1995-12-09 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, roro wrote: And how to elegantly get rid of the huge /usr/lib/terminfo database w/o installing and purging? Good point. This sounds like a serious user-upgrade issue. This looks like a dpkg-guru question.

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-08 Thread Bill Mitchell
If the ncurses guys are going to keep blowing off binary compatibility, then perhaps we should not mess with ncurses at all. I suspect, especially now that we've got the package load spread around more, that Debian will be able to keep up. I'm just concerned that this is a losing

Bug#1931: less doesn'

1995-12-07 Thread Bill Mitchell
On 7 Dec 1995, Mark Nudelman wrote: Bill, Thanks for sending the info on the two fixes you made in less-290. I don't quite understand the purpose of the first one. You said: In screen.c, it's presumed that dumb terminals have termcap capabilities. This isn't necessarily true. I added

Re: dpkg-nondebbin and improper system installation

1995-12-06 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Wed, 6 Dec 1995, Bruce Perens wrote: A number of people have attempted or succeeded in using dpkg-nondebbin or a dpkg compiled on their local systems to install Debian without using the bootstrap floppies. As far as I am aware, this will yield a system that is broken in various ways

Re: dpkg-nondebbin and improper system installation

1995-12-06 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Ian Jackson wrote: Bill Mitchell writes (Re: dpkg-nondebbin and improper system installation): Perhaps dpkg-nondebin should check if it's running on a debian system and, if it is, either refuse to proceed or issue a strong warning. No, that's not the problem

Bug#1931: less doesn't work on /proc files

1995-12-02 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Bruce Perens wrote: Note that ls lists the length of /proc/filesystems as 0, but read() will get more than 0 data. Less doesn't know that /proc files are special in this way, and treats them as a 0-length file. You could argue that this is a bug in the semantics of the

Bug#850: indent] option mentioned in documentation not supported

1995-12-01 Thread Bill Mitchell
it as documented or by having it excised from the program and the documentation until it's supported. If you respond by email, please preserve the Subject and Cc fields of this message so that our bug tracking system will be properly updated. Thank you. Bill Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] (speaking for myself

Bug#1724: unexpected keypress translatio

1995-12-01 Thread Bill Mitchell
I'm closing this bug. The problem was lack of termcap support for keypresses. The current ae package implements termcap support for keypresses, and is capable of terminfo support. I'll release ae compiled for terminfo support when a shared ncurses library is released. Note: both /etc/termcap

Bug#1848: git gets segv

1995-12-01 Thread Bill Mitchell
+ Problem: + The color selection from /usr/lib/git/term/.gitrc.common works well on the + console, but not so in a rxvt---object files appear blue on blue and are + invisible because the tones of blue are actually the same in an rxvt. I + copied that colour section from that .gitrc.common. into

Re: watch-1.0-2

1995-11-29 Thread Bill Mitchell
Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said, regarding package diffs: Bill Mitchell writes (Re: watch-1.0-2): Gunzip will choke on a zero-length compressed file, so I've been gzipping a file which contains a single newline to provide a .diff.gz file in this situation (legally gzipped, and legally

Re: watch-1.0-2

1995-11-29 Thread Bill Mitchell
What's a wibble? Never seen blackadder? :) I saw parts of a couple of episodes. The only thing I recall about it is Is he really crazy or has he just put underpants on his head and stuck soda straws up his nose?. Never got into it. Most British humor goes right past me (Except Monty

Re: Source package format - a simple proposal

1995-11-28 Thread Bill Mitchell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) said: From: Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6a. No unnecessary up/down-loading by maintainers. The issue gets bigger as the connectivity gets worse. I think it's a big issue, and I use a 9600 bps modem on a phone line which isn't too terribly noisy most of the

Re: convenience script for building a.out packages

1995-11-28 Thread Bill Mitchell
Scott Blachowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. But, now you see that we have a script called /usr/bin/aout and a potential directory called /usr/bin/aout. Hence my suggestion that it ought to be called something else. with-aout perhaps. [...]

Re: convenience script for building a.out packages

1995-11-28 Thread Bill Mitchell
Peter Tobias [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: There should be no subdirectories within /bin. Given the intention of FSSTND compliance, this is an absolute prohibition. They're just talking about /bin and not /usr/bin. Oops. Right.

Re: bogo-1.2-1 released

1995-11-27 Thread Bill Mitchell
Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Karl Ferguson writes (bogo-1.2-1 released): Well, it's a tough job, but someone's got to be low enough to do some small Debian packages :-) One day when I feel more confident I'll do some real packages grin Does anyone else think it would be a good

Re: miscutils snag/questions for all

1995-11-26 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Sat, 25 Nov 1995, Bruce Perens wrote: We should encourage authors to package their programs individually rather than dump them on Rik. Sometimes, we're going to have to make judgement calls. And someone commented that it'd have been better if all the programs in upstream digest packages

Bug#1903: memtest segfaults if given just one argument

1995-11-26 Thread Bill Mitchell
PACKAGE: memtest VERSION 0.1-1 root:/root# memtest 1024 Segmentation fault [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Mitchell)

Bug#1897: apropos not resilient to index.db corruption

1995-11-25 Thread Bill Mitchell
Alvar Bray: I have heard several other people say they have had corrupt database files - how do they get corrupted? I have never managed to corrupt mine (but then I, as the package maintainer, wouldnt would I) Possibly a SIGINT, SIGQUIT, SIGTERM, SIGKILL at an inopportune time.

antisocial X11 apps: xtet42, chimera

1995-11-23 Thread Bill Mitchell
and the ctrl-alt-* commands work OK during its startup. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Mitchell)

Re: antisocial X11 apps: xtet42, chimera

1995-11-23 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Thu, 23 Nov 1995, Andrew Howell wrote: Is your 486 a dx? Do you have any video memory left over for a font cache? How much RAM do you have? What kind of video card? Dx -- dunno. Didn't take note when I had it open. I grepped /var/log/messages for a bogomips figure, but that's apparently

Re: New package: die

1995-11-23 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Thu, 23 Nov 1995, Ian Jackson wrote: [...] I Having lots of packages is good, but half a dozen (probably often poor) implementations of the same tiny script in half a dozen different packages doesn't seem optimal to me. I'd expect a rash of package contributions as hordes of new debian

Re: Bug#1887: cfengine 1.2.14-2: documentation errors

1995-11-23 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Thu, 23 Nov 1995, Ian Jackson wrote: We should document what we ship as we ship it. No argument, but that implies lots of work for maintainers when initially building packages and when upgrading to new upstream releases. I'm not sure that it's practical. Some quick grepping around in my

Re: convenience script for building a.out packages

1995-11-22 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Wed, 22 Nov 1995, Ian Jackson wrote: Bill Mitchell writes (convenience script for building a.out packages): This is a script I've placed in /usr/local/bin/aout on my system. It's intended as an aid in building a.out packages on an elf-ized debian system. It's invoked as: aout

Bug#1891: bug report

1995-11-22 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Wed, 22 Nov 1995, Gordon Russell wrote: Packages: base The /etc/magic file does not allow the file command to identify elf .a files from aout .a files very easily. Indeed, an elf archive : archive but an aout archive : random archive Would someone update this to something more

Bug#1893: ncurses man pages need to get tbl invoked

1995-11-22 Thread Bill Mitchell
man programs. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Mitchell)

Bug#1887: cfengine 1.2.14-2: documentation errors

1995-11-22 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Wed, 22 Nov 1995, Chris Fearnley wrote: The info documentation included refers to /usr/local/bin/cfengine when Debian's cfengine is installed in /usr/bin/cfengine. I'm closing this without action. I've looked at the cfengine info files, and I think it's clear from the context that the

Re: mawk(1) , gawk(1) and package control files (questions)

1995-11-21 Thread Bill Mitchell
The following are my best guesses at answers. If I guess wrong, someone with better information will correct me. Chris Fearnley [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [...] I have a few questions on this my first debianization effort. o Why is gawk a required package? And is there any reason why gawk

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