sha liu sandyle...@gmail.com writes:
2009/7/20 Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de
sha liu sandyle...@gmail.com writes:
Hi everyone,
Is there any easy method to get all the *source* packages
which are the
build dependency
Philipp Kern tr...@philkern.de writes:
On 2009-07-20, Stéphane Glondu st...@glondu.net wrote:
For example, each OCaml transition involve rebuilding a lot of packages
(about 139), with 6 levels of dependencies. So if some build takes 2
days or more (for the current transition, on some builds,
Harald Braumann ha...@unheit.net writes:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:42:44 +0800
sha liu sandyle...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/7/20 Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de
sha liu sandyle...@gmail.com writes:
Hi everyone,
Is there any easy method to get all the *source* packages
which
Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org writes:
Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de writes:
And why should there be. The package it totally usable and functional
as designed.
Does it properly support aptitude / synaptic / etc yet?
[The whole print a message on stdout telling the user he'd better do
Micha Lenk mi...@lenk.info writes:
Hi,
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Am Sonntag 05 Juli 2009 schrieb Goswin von Brederlow:
The conversion system is an ugly hack. Sure. [...]
[...]
The package it totally usable and functional as designed.
Don't you feel like contradicting yourself
Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org writes:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 04:29:34PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
'lo
I am reading:
http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id292205
But everytime I chroot into my 32bits system, part of my system
still sees
Mathieu Malaterre mathieu.malate...@gmail.com writes:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Goswin von Brederlowgoswin-...@web.de
wrote:
apt-get install schroot
RTFM
Did you *actually* read it yourself ?
*hust, hust* I actually wrote it. At least a small part of it.
I'd suggest you reread
Micha Lenk mi...@lenk.info writes:
Hi,
Hans-J. Ullrich schrieb:
Am Sonntag 05 Juli 2009 schrieb Goswin von Brederlow:
The conversion system is an ugly hack. Sure. [...]
Despite whatever the people say, I like the new package. And I like the idea
behind it. And if it does not work
Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de writes:
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de writes:
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
and it has numerous RC bugs.
Lets see:
http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/ia32-libs-tools.html
RC bugs: 1
There were 6 bugs when I looked at the page before
Pierre Habouzit madco...@madism.org writes:
On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 11:30:12PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Yannick yannick.roeh...@free.fr writes:
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
And hey, the good reason was diverting the package management tools
is unacceptable. But, no, we have
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes:
On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 03:07:58PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 01:26:23PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
]] Yannick
| For instance, I wanted to test Firefox 3.5 in 32bits on my amd64
| Debian (64bit Firefox 3.5 does
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes:
]] Stefano Zacchiroli
| On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 01:26:23PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| ]] Yannick
|
| | For instance, I wanted to test Firefox 3.5 in 32bits on my amd64
| | Debian (64bit Firefox 3.5 does not have the new tracemonkey
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 12:20:08PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
The upgrade path to multiarch is for the multiarch i386 deb to
Conflicts/Replaces: package that contains the same files. Which
means ia32-libs or ia32-libs-gtk for the old system
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes:
On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 11:36:31PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes:
As I see it, there are two major hurdles:
1) Initial creation of the chroot. As above, I think a simple script
to integrate
Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de writes:
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
and it has numerous RC bugs.
Lets see:
http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/ia32-libs-tools.html
RC bugs: 1
There were 6 bugs when I looked at the page before writing my mail, guess
you've
merged/downgraded/... the others.I
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
Le vendredi 03 juillet 2009 Ã 14:59 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a
écrit :
Do you *really* want to have more reasons?
I would settle for one good one. :)
OK, letâs try one that you can understand. Try picturing a bridge.
ia32-libs-tools
Yannick yannick.roeh...@free.fr writes:
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
And hey, the good reason was diverting the package management tools
is unacceptable. But, no, we have to do insults instead of arguing.
Alas, despite the diversion of the package management tools, I find ia32-
apt-get
-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de
Description:
ia32-apt-get - Apt-get, aptitude and dpkg wrapper for on-the-fly conversion
ia32-archive - Create a local archive of converted i386 debs for amd64 and ia64
ia32-libs-tools - Tools for converting
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 01:18:14AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
There is only one thing that DAK might want to adapt to. For most
multiarch architectures there is a definite main architecture that
most things should be in and then some corner
Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org writes:
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 02:26:21PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Jonathan Yu jonathan.i...@gmail.com writes:
How to fix them? Write Perl scripts, and turn on taint checking --
that fixes the four issues above, because it makes the script exit if
any of
Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org writes:
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 10:28:24AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Last I heart s390 planed to drop 31bit support and go fully 64bit.
This was the plan. However I don't know if it is the best solution. The
fact is: only Debian and SuSE still supports
Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de writes:
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Please do files bugs about issues you consider blockers for
ia32-libs-tools and squeeze and please include if that applies even if
there is the old ia32-libs in parallel to it (i.e. when it doesn't get
pulled in on upgrades
Hi,
I'm striking my colors. By popular demand I'm orphaning the ia32-libs
and ia32-libs-gtk transitional packages. As said before the
prerequisite for that was that someone else steps up as new maintainer
for the old ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk monsters and Mark Hymers has
agreed to do so. I
Hi,
it seems to me that the current CDPATH behaviour is verry strange and
extremly dangerous for shell scripts.
For those that have never heart of CDPATH it does 2 things:
1) a relative cd command with search the CDPATH for the given
directory. If unset then '.' is used.
2) it outputs the
Hi,
what can be done if the maintainer scripts of a package must behave
differently when unpacking the i386 deb on i386 or the i386 deb on
amd64?
For example 32bit fglrx-glx needs to divert /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 on
i386 but /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1.2 on amd64.
Other examples would be packages that
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de writes:
what can be done if the maintainer scripts of a package must behave
differently when unpacking the i386 deb on i386 or the i386 deb on
amd64?
For example 32bit fglrx-glx needs to divert /usr/lib/libGL.so
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
Jonathan Yu jonathan.i...@gmail.com writes:
How to fix them? Write Perl scripts, and turn on taint checking --
that fixes the four issues above, because it makes the script exit if
any of them look dangerous. Env::Sanctify::Auto is a Perl module that
Jonathan Yu jonathan.i...@gmail.com writes:
Another option might be to break from POSIX/etc policy (I'm not sure
where these variables are defined) and patch our command like 'cd' to
simply ignore 'CDPATH' etc. But I suppose this would then require
patches in all the various shells available
Joerg Jaspert jo...@debian.org writes:
Hello world,
(Please remember that we can only speak for ourselves and not the
security/release/any other teams, individuals or other sentient beings.)
During the recent discussion about about ia32-libs{,-gtk,-tools} there were
various requests for
Faidon Liambotis parav...@debian.org writes:
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
ia32-wine is only available when ia32-apt-get is installed.
WTF? Are you listening to yourself?
Do you actually believe that it's okay to mess in such horrendous ways
with the packaging system?
If you don't want
Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org writes:
Hi!
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 13:58:48 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de writes:
what can be done if the maintainer scripts of a package must behave
differently when unpacking the i386 deb on i386 or the i386 deb
-libs Team
pkg-ia32-libs-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de
Description:
ia32-apt-get - Apt-get, aptitude and dpkg wrapper for on-the-fly conversion
ia32-archive - Create a local archive of converted i386 debs for amd64 and ia64
ia32-libs
Aneurin Price aneurin.pr...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 05:11, Goswin von Brederlowgoswin-...@web.de wrote:
Aneurin Price aneurin.pr...@gmail.com writes:
Hi,
I've just spent over an hour writing and rewriting this mail, and determined
that I can't think of a single
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 06:52:34PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Look at perl for example:
Package: perl-base
Provides: perlapi-5.10.0
I suggest to also provide perlabi-$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE) or
perlabi-5.10.0-$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE). Perl
Rafael Almeida almeida...@gmail.com writes:
A ``patch'' rule for debian/rules there should always be
for I'd like to easily apply patches created by me
Don't worry I don't think of anything too hard
a simple standarization will ease my heart
Today ``debian/rules build'' is always a good
-libs Team
pkg-ia32-libs-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de
Description:
ia32-apt-get - Apt-get and dpkg wrapper for on-the-fly ia32-libs conversion
ia32-archive - Create a local archive of converted i386 debs for amd64 and ia64
ia32-libs
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 09:50:01PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org writes:
There is work going on recently. Steve Langasek drafted a plan that he
wants to bring forward in Ubuntu Karmic Koala and it has been
Mark Brown broo...@sirena.org.uk writes:
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 09:31:24PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Mark Brown broo...@sirena.org.uk writes:
There seems to be at least some crossover between the people who were
looking at multiarch and the people doing this stuff
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud did...@raboud.com writes:
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Aneurin Price aneurin.pr...@gmail.com writes:
Hi,
I've just spent over an hour writing and rewriting this mail, and
determined that I can't think of a single constructive thing to say.
So I'll just ask a couple
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
Le mardi 30 juin 2009 à 01:55 +0100, Aneurin Price a écrit :
Is there any way of preventing this kind of major breakage in the future?
I don't think many people expect that upgrading one package will FUBAR
the packaging system.
Report a critical
Jonas Meurer jo...@freesources.org writes:
On 30/06/2009 Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Did anyone who isn't on crack get to see 'ia32-apt-get.preinst' and
'ia32-apt-get.postinst' before they were perpetrated upon an unsuspecting
populace? Reading them in the process of trying to unfuck my
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 09:02:05PM +0100, Matthew Johnson wrote:
I've also CC'd Hector and Steve who are listed as owners on that
document because whatever we do to get multiarch working (and I have no
strong views on the right way to do it) we should
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud did...@raboud.com writes:
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Aneurin Price aneurin.pr...@gmail.com writes:
Hi,
I've just spent over an hour writing and rewriting this mail, and
determined that I can't think of a single constructive thing to say.
So I'll just ask a couple
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
Le mardi 30 juin 2009 à 18:52 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit :
Please stop confusing ia32-apt-get with multiarch. It clearly is a
kludge to keep 32bit binaries working till there is multiarch. It is
not ment as a replacement
Yannick yannick.roeh...@free.fr writes:
Maybe all of this should go to experimental (is there a problem with wine
depending on experimental packages for amd64?) but thank you Goswin for your
work.
Yannick
The problem was that libc6-i386 broke all 32bit support in unstable
making all 32bit
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud did...@raboud.com writes:
Hi,
Norbert Preining wrote:
On Mo, 29 Jun 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote:
This package was already enough of a hack, but at least it worked
without fiddling in horrible ways with the packaging system.
How can we have a working wine or
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud did...@raboud.com writes:
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud did...@raboud.com writes:
Norbert Preining wrote:
- calling /usr/share/ia32-apt-get/convert-all-sources.list
Which horribly breaks with anything a little custom (proxies, custom
repositories
Didier Raboud did...@raboud.com writes:
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud did...@raboud.com writes:
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud did...@raboud.com writes:
Norbert Preining wrote:
- calling /usr/share/ia32-apt-get/convert-all-sources.list
Which horribly
Lionel Elie Mamane lio...@mamane.lu writes:
While we are on the subject of ia32-apt-get, I'm not sure _what_
happened, but after the upgrade of ia32-apt-get 14 to 18, suddenly
aptitude had about 200 package in upgradable state that were not
upgradable before.
ia32-apt-get encodes its own
Mehdi Dogguy mehdi.dog...@pps.jussieu.fr writes:
Josselin Mouette wrote:
Hi,
as the topic says, I noticed the new ia32-libs package depends on
ia32-apt-get.
I searched the list archive and found only one thread[1] related to
ia32-apt-get. Correct me if I'm wrong but it was clear for
Lionel Elie Mamane lio...@mamane.lu writes:
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 03:57:28PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Lionel Elie Mamane lio...@mamane.lu writes:
While we are on the subject of ia32-apt-get, I'm not sure _what_
happened, but after the upgrade of ia32-apt-get 14 to 18, suddenly
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
Le lundi 29 juin 2009 à 17:30 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit :
consider it as a âÂÂreleasableâ solution?
Going to be.
No, it is not going to be. The whole design needs work before it can be.
There is a better design. It is called
Mark Brown broo...@sirena.org.uk writes:
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 06:12:20PM +0200, Norbert Preining wrote:
On Mo, 29 Jun 2009, Mark Brown wrote:
Multiarch was mentioned in the original thread.
Not that I was happy with the original situation (filing myself a bug),
but all that multiarch
Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org writes:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009, Norbert Preining wrote:
On Mo, 29 Jun 2009, Mark Brown wrote:
Figure out an acceptable option 4.
Multiarch was mentioned in the original thread.
Not that I was happy with the original situation (filing myself a bug),
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
Le lundi 29 juin 2009 à 21:30 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit :
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
No, it is not going to be. The whole design needs work before it can be.
There is a better design. It is called multiarch. But some people
Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org writes:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Too bad they did that without involving the people already working on
multiarch via the alioth project.
They messed up some finer details, broke the existing patches, made
the whole thing need
Yannick yannick.roeh...@free.fr writes:
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
There where 3 options:
1) ia32-libs + ia32-libs-gtk (+ ia32-libs-kde + ia32-libs-qt)
ftp-master asked us to clean that up basically and
it would not pass NEW if it where uploaded now
2) ia32-lib* packages in the same
Aneurin Price aneurin.pr...@gmail.com writes:
Hi,
I've just spent over an hour writing and rewriting this mail, and determined
that I can't think of a single constructive thing to say.
So I'll just ask a couple of questions instead:
Is there any way of preventing this kind of major
-libs Team
pkg-ia32-libs-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de
Description:
ia32-apt-get - Apt-get and dpkg wrapper for on-the-fly ia32-libs conversion
ia32-archive - Create a local archive of converted i386 debs for amd64 and ia64
ia32-libs
-libs Team
pkg-ia32-libs-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de
Description:
ia32-apt-get - Apt-get and dpkg wrapper for on-the-fly ia32-libs conversion
ia32-archive - Create a local archive of converted i386 debs for amd64 and ia64
ia32-libs
Joseph Rawson umebos...@gmail.com writes:
On Sunday 21 June 2009 03:33:33 Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
snip
The Release could be signed using an rsign method with the machine(s)
that manage the repository, or it could be done locally on the server
using gpg-agent, or an unencrypted private
Artur R. Czechowski artu...@hell.pl writes:
Hello,
I made a quick glance at /emul/ia32-linux to lib32 transition in BTS.
There was some bugreports submitted. All I spotted can be seen using
following link: http://42.pl/u/1GEo
Shouldn't all of them be set to RC severity as they are
brian m. carlson sand...@crustytoothpaste.ath.cx writes:
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 10:29:37PM +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
There is a bit of discussion in bug #487546 about whether using cc or gcc as
the compiler is appropriate.
Particular questions:
* Are Debian packages supposed to be
Joseph Rawson umebos...@gmail.com writes:
On Saturday 20 June 2009 03:16:33 Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
But now you made me think about this too. So here is what I think:
- My bandwidth at home is fast enough to fetch packages directly. No
need to mirror at all.
- I don't want
Joseph Rawson umebos...@gmail.com writes:
On Friday 19 June 2009 12:57:25 Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Or have a proxy that adds packages that are requested.
When I woke up this morning, I was thinking that it might be interesting to
have an apt method that talks directly to reprepro. It's
Joseph Rawson umebos...@gmail.com writes:
On Friday 19 June 2009 00:27:06 Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Joseph Rawson umebos...@gmail.com writes:
If so then you can configure a post invoke hook in apt that will copy
the dpkg status file of the host to the server [as status.$(hostname
Joseph Rawson umebos...@gmail.com writes:
There is another application that will help with the dependencies. It's
called germinate, and it will take a short list of packages and a list of
repositories and build a bunch of different lists of packages and their
dependencies. Germinate will
Frank Lin PIAT fp...@klabs.be writes:
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 16:16 -0500, Joseph Rawson wrote:
On Tuesday 09 June 2009 13:14:53 sanket agarwal wrote:
This can be stated as: if a person
wants to keep a customised set of packages for usage with the
distribution, the tool should be able to
Joseph Rawson umebos...@gmail.com writes:
BTW, the subject of this thread is apt-get wrapper for maintaining Partial
Mirrors. The solution I'm proposing is a simple tool for maintaining
Partial Mirrors (which could possibly be wrapped by apt-get later).
I think that just pursuing an
Ken Bloom kbl...@gmail.com writes:
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
Le lundi 01 juin 2009 à 16:26 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit :
What has the initramfs got to do with this?
For / to be on LVM you need an initramfs. / on raid (with custom
kernel) or plain partition
-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de
Description:
ia32-apt-get - Apt-get and dpkg wrapper for on-the-fly ia32-libs conversion
ia32-archive - Create a local archive of converted i386 debs for amd64 and ia64
ia32-libs-tools - Tools for converting
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
Le mardi 02 juin 2009 à 11:22 +0200, Martin Wuertele a écrit :
Still that doesn't mean that the project should depricate support for a
separate /usr for the sake of udev. If some want to use an initramfs
less kernel let them have a functional system,
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
Le dimanche 31 mai 2009 à 19:43 +0200, Marco d'Itri a écrit :
All things considered, I have no immediate plan to push for deprecating
a standalone /usr.
Thanks for going back. However, if you think this debate is going to
come back later, maybe we
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
Le lundi 01 juin 2009 à 13:11 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit :
As long as debian does not provide support for kernel independent non
breaking initramfs support (i.e. not regenerated on every whim and
break) having / outside lvm and no initramfs
Pierre Habouzit madco...@madism.org writes:
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 01:11:20PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
- LVM and/or RAID: no real reason nowadays to not use these for the root
As long as debian does not provide support for kernel
Pierre Habouzit madco...@madism.org writes:
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 03:08:02PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Mon, 01 Jun 2009, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
Think again, if I do such a package, I would obviously check with some
kind of trivial perl programm if the device containing
Pierre Habouzit madco...@madism.org writes:
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 05:13:16PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Pierre Habouzit madco...@madism.org writes:
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 01:11:20PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
- LVM
Michael Banck mba...@debian.org writes:
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:01:55AM +0200, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino wrote:
Is there a way to tell 'make' to execute all the dependencies for a
target but not go through the target itself?
It is not forbidden to unpack and patch the upstream source in
Peter De Wachter pdewa...@gmail.com writes:
Op Mon, 25 May 2009 03:36:28 +0100
schreef Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk:
Cool - that looks really useful. However, it looks like you're just
running dpkg-source -x to unpack packages. This misses any Debian
changes made using a patch
J.A. Bezemer cos...@wormhole.robuust.nl writes:
On Sun, 24 May 2009, Bastian Blank wrote:
Hi folks
I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux
kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov).
[..]
Popcon gives us some rough numbers to think about:
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au writes:
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org writes:
You call it superfluous. It's particularly helpful for source-only
uploads.
Well, yes, it's superfluous for Debian, which doesn't
Robert Millan rmh.debian@aybabtu.com writes:
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 03:44:38AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
Hi!
On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 22:18:51 +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Robert Millan rmh.debian@aybabtu.com
* Package name: vsag
Giacomo A. Catenazzi c...@debian.org writes:
Gabor Gombas wrote:
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 03:53:23PM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
No, /root cannot be a separate filesystem.
/root is part of very basic system, and it is required for super user
when he/she is restoring the systems or
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
Sure. I can hack things so that I have a writable home directory
for root while having a read only /. But then it is incorrect to state
that it works out of the box.
manoj
If you have a read-only / you need to have /var and
Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net writes:
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 08:06 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mercredi 13 mai 2009 à 11:23 +1000, Brian May a écrit :
Is this still considered to be a libtool issue?
Yes, but instead of dropping the .la entirely, Iâd recommend to simply
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
On Tue, May 12 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
I don't know if there are more blocker. Oh, and /root is a home
directory; unless we move that, a read only / would affect root
negatively.
How so? Only thing I can think of is the bash
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
On Mon, May 11 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org writes:
On Mon, 11 May 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
A separate /usr *is* the way to go if you don't want any writes in
that filesystem 99.9
Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org writes:
Hi,
When my usual web page updates failed, I was checking my ethernet
connection ... I wondered why ... Here is the reason:
I might have missed some announcment, ... but it seems rsync on
people.debian.org creates directories and files with 700
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org writes:
On Mon, 11 May 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
A separate /usr *is* the way to go if you don't want any writes in
that filesystem 99.9% of the time (i.e. when you're not doing an
upgrade).
A read-only / does the trick just as well
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes:
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 09:59:36AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Mon, 11 May 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
A read-only / should work out of the box just like a read-only /usr. I
haven't installed a fresh one in a long while though
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 11:37:46PM +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
On Sunday 10 May 2009 13:56:04 Steve Langasek wrote:
I thought it was generally recognized that it's a Bad Idea to implement
config files using your interpreter's 'include'
Bill Allombert bill.allomb...@math.u-bordeaux1.fr writes:
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 09:54:11PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Sun, 10 May 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
I'm really surprised to see this approach getting traction. To me, this
seems like a significant, unprecedented departure
Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org writes:
Hi,
On Sonntag, 10. Mai 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
With the include approach, we lack this feature and bad/broken local
overrides can't be detected if we only have the build log at hand.
which reminds me that we dont have build logs for
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org writes:
On Fri, 08 May 2009, David Weinehall wrote:
No. But we do leave /usr read-only the rest of the time, which
is often 99.999% of the time. A separate /usr is required for this.
Uhm, no?
mount --bind /usr /usr
First, you'd
Roger Lynn ro...@rilynn.demon.co.uk writes:
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 07:00:25PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 09:47:56PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
As a practical matter, downgrading these dependencies will cause
aptitude and other package managers to believe
:21AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.
It is high time to change to the multiarch dir. For that gcc needs to
be fixed first so compiling 32bit code does not break. Transitioning
to /usr/lib32 will just needlessly break systems.
The rest of this thread gives me
m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes:
I have been told by upstream maintainers of one of my packages and by
prominent developers of other distributions that supporting a standalone
/usr is too much work and no other distribution worth mentioning does it
(not Ubuntu, not Fedora, not SuSE).
I
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes:
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 06:49:47PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mardi 05 mai 2009 à 17:24 +0100, Roger Leigh a écrit :
That might have been a traditional reason for a shared /usr.
However, the package manager can't cope with this setup since
Giacomo Catenazzi c...@debian.org writes:
Roger Leigh wrote:
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 05:41:06PM +0200, Stéphane Glondu wrote:
Marco d'Itri a écrit :
I know that Debian supports this, but I also know that maintaning
forever large changes to packages for no real gain sucks.
A partial list of
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
Le mardi 05 mai 2009 à 23:38 +0200, Frank Lin PIAT a écrit :
Interesting. I thought 386 wasn't supported anymore (?)
AFAIK the kernel is able to emulate a 486 when running on a 386.
Afaik only when properly patched to do so and including glibc
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