[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Mays) writes:
Once 2.2.12 makes it out of Incoming, we will have 8 kernel versions in
the unstable distribution? Do we REALLY need to provide that many
versions of the kernel??
What about just keeping the last 2.0.x and the last 2.2.x ? It's also
a lot of space on
Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Paul Slootman wrote:
What happens if you pass the -pt option to man?
$ man -pt -l ./powstatd.8
Then it works.
From man(1):
The filters are deciphered by a number of means. Firstly,
the command line option -p or the
Hi, we're looking for somebody to help us with ftp maintainance by
processing new packages from incoming. The procedure is basically
this:
You get a daily email report of new packages in Incoming.
You run lintian on them and check for egregious errors, read the
copyright file to see if
Many of you are confused because you are getting messages that your
packages are new when they really aren't, or perhaps dinstall is
rejecting them because it can't find the orig.tar.gz.
Because nonus is now divided into main, non-free, and contrib, you
must specify this in the distribution or
Christian T. Steigies [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
only one question, were have the uploads landed? I mean, I am very happy
that I got confirmation messages, but now I have REJECTED:
Rejected: gnupg_0.9.5-1_m68k.deb: Old version 9.5-1' = new version 9.5-1'.
but I cant find it on nonus in
Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I took the sources to cfdisk.c, ripped all the user interface code
out, and replaced it with code that essentially does the following:
You should try using sfdisk instead for things like this. It's the
best of {s,c,}fdisk, but it has no frontend.
Guy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julian Gilbey) writes:
There was a suggestion a while back for the .changes file to have two
fields, a Maintainer field and an Uploader field. If these are
identical, then it's a maintainer upload, otherwise it's an NMU. If
there's no Uploader field, then fall back to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julian Gilbey) writes:
There was also the idea of running the announcement part of dinstall
every ten minutes or thereabouts.
I could announce new packages as they're processed. (They'd be
announced twice then.) Are people actually sitting around all day
waiting for new
Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I remember having looked at it but, IIRC, the source was less
comprehensible, which at the time was the most important thing.
I don't think you would have to make any changes. It's design to be
easily run from scripts.
Guy
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So, are spaces legal, or not?
Oops. The regular expression is correct, and the example is not.
There may not be a space between `bug' and `#'.
Guy
dinstall, the software which installs packages into the hierarchy, can
now announce packages and close bugs for you.
If you'd like to use this feature, upgrade to the dpkg-dev in my home
directory on master. The changes are checked in to va's dpkg cvs
tree.
dinstall will look for a Format field
Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk writes:
It seems rather clumsy, though. Why was this scheme chosen, instead of
one where the K scripts are run for the previous runlevel?
K scripts are not supposed to shut down everything that was started
from that runlevel. They are supposed to shut down
Adam Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hmm, is it really a good thing to have dinstall announce the uploads? I
often depend on the announcements to alert me to new versions in Incoming.
In the new setup, the announcements won't come until the package is
installed, which in some cases can be
John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Also, would somebody please document this in the Packaging manual?
Otherwise, it won't be terribly useful as anybody that didn't see the
message won't know about it.
I'll document as soon as I'm convinced that the bugs are out.
On Sun, Jan 31, 1999 at
Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
does it know that libc5 and libc6 are incompatable versions of the
same library (different sonames), or does it feel that loading two
libraries (libfoo, libc6) is better than loading three (libfoo,
libc5, libc6).
It recognizes libc, libm, and libdl in
Avery Pennarun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Six orders of magnitude??
Bandwidth and latency are not the same thing.
Guy
Fabrizio Polacco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If I remember well, some time ago someone posted his results on a port
of dpkg to HP-UX.
Believe it or not, I've ported dpkg to HP-UX, AIX, Solaris, and
Cygwin. (That's dpkg, dpkg-split, and dpkg-deb only. I wasn't
interested in dselect at the
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Guy Maor wrote:
I'm suggesting that dpkg-scanpackages scan the dscs and put the
section and version in the Source field, or perhaps add a new field
Dsc which is simply the full path to the dsc, akin to the Filename
field. Then downloading the source
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David Welton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There is an ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sid, with such recent
things as debian-arm, so.. I think that's next:-
No, sid is the permanently unstable distribution, where architectures
that have yet to be released live.
Guy
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Supposedly it is about ready to be released.
Using a newly written MTA as our default sounds like a poor idea.
Guy
[EMAIL PROTECTED](James A. Treacy) writes:
It is clearly much more efficient if the .dsc files don't have to be
retrieved. This is simply a matter of policy though.
I guess you're talking about different things. Of course that
package's dsc needs to be downloaded, but Jay fears that all the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (James A. Treacy) writes:
First, due to NMU uploads to other architectures, the source version
may not match the version: in the package you are looking for.
This could be corrected with dpkg-scanpackages, but that's not really
the right thing to do. I don't know the best
James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My original objection was going to be base around the fact that passwd
is Essential, but it turns out it isn't, my bad. I'd hate to be part
of the current `Let's make foo Essential: yes and part of the base
system, in fact let's make it the kernel'
My computer died last Saturday, and I'm still in the process of
figuring out what's wrong with it. I'll hopefully be back by Friday.
Guy
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Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sounds good.
I know it sounds good. I just want to be sure that's it's the right
thing to do. :)
So my understanding is that only i386 and m68k are to be official 2.0
releases. alpha (and other) will wait for 2.1.
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A reasonable amount of time has passed. I'll check a few randomly
selected mirrors and restore the links if all is well.
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Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As far as I can see we only have disadvantages supporting
hamm-powerpc. (no regular uploads, extra handling of security
fixes to non-supported versions, frozen of _really unstable_
binary set etc.)
I would make dinstall just throw all uploads for it
Is that correct? I ask because dinstall currently installs packages
into hamm and slink by installing it into the former and symlinking it
to the later. This causes unnecessary mirror traffic for those archs
that will only be released with 2.1 because I must later move binary-*
for those to
Roderick Schertler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's supposed to open /dev/tty instead of using stdin. This is the way
it works on all the systems I could get people to check for me, which
are Linux with libc5, AIX 4.2, Solaris 2.4, Solaris 2.5, DG/UX 4.11 and
FreeBSD 2.2.2-R.
I don't
Roderick Schertler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 21 Apr 1998 08:55:51 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) said:
It's just a silly bug. It calls that code from some scripts which
have fd0 dup'd elsewhere, so isatty(0) is false and getlogin() fails.
Will someone please fix it?
Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thing is that bash behaves different if called as sh or bash.
Yes, find the section in the manpage that starts, If bash is invoked
with the name sh, it tries to mimic the.
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Andreas Jellinghaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
but for symlinks pointing to something excluded from mirroring,
it should download the file. this way i could burn a complete hamm...
I turned the hamm-bo symlinks into files a few days ago.
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I agree with Manoj here.
Modifying libc to catch common security goals is a laudable goal, but
such a libc should go to experimental.
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Douglas Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Make that
http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/980417.totn.02.ram
if you just want the last hour. The Free Software segment is the
second part of that hour.
It starts 27:20 minutes in.
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The sizes are:
62997 contrib/binary-i386
326744 main/binary-i386
65237 non-free/binary-i386
31849 main/disks-i386
86526 contrib/source
690239 main/source
148075 non-free/source
Since the official CD doesn't include non-free, there won't be a
problem for this release. All the binaries
Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
msqld will only modify /etc/group when the needed group is missing.
I don't have msqld installed, so msqld might be doing the correct
thing. It's fine to add the group with 'groupadd -g 36 msql', but you
definitely shouldn't modify the file directly.
It's just a silly bug. It calls that code from some scripts which
have fd0 dup'd elsewhere, so isatty(0) is false and getlogin() fails.
Guy
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Remco Blaakmeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If shadow-login is the only program that supports these fields, they are
useless. If a user had a value pri=5, he would only have to do something
like
echo 'command' | at now
to get 'command' executed at normal priority.
Yes, it's not very
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This says nothing about the postrm. Should ldconfig ever be called in the
postrm?
It doesn't matter. ld.so reacts the same way to a library in the
cache but not in the filesystem as to a library in neither place.
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I have to temporarily remove dists/bo and dists/stable. The problem
is that dists/stable is a directory instead of a symlink, and
converting a directory to a symlink will break many ftp mirror
programs. The only semi-reliable way is to remove the directory, wait
a while for all ftp sites to get
I originally wanted to wait because it would increase the size of the
archive. I just added up the sizes and it would cost 107 megs. It
turns out that the entire archive is approaching 4 gigs (!!) so 107
megs is not that much.
I'll convert them now so it will be easier for people to press CDs
Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Looking closer, I found a couple of packages (msqld and sudo)
which updated /etc/group in what I would consider an insufficiently
paranoid fashion.
No package should modify /etc/passwd or /etc/group directly (save
base-passwd). They should call adduser,
LeRoy D. Cressy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I question the purpose of leaving broken symbolic links when
upgrading the libraries. For instance libreadline2 leaves
the following broken links reported by ldconfig:
Those symlinks are part of libreadline2-dev. If you upgrade to
I have seen this problem before with some overeager Configure scripts.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory S. Stark) writes:
Am I the only one who thinks the only correct prompts would be '$ ' and '# '?
Barring that I suggest leaving the defaults, 'bash$' et. al.
You're not the only one. I also prefer to leave the defaults.
Any prompt in /etc/profile would be
Paul Slootman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think it would be sensible to fix the ftp site. There is a
debian/upgrades directory that contains hopelessly out-of-date info.
Beginning of the README says:
That directory is for people upgrading from 0.93R6 (libc4), when dpkg
didn't have
Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Again? Why again? Maybe we should install a cronjob to set the bit?
Would it have to run more than once a day?
Guy
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Rather than maintaining this list, why don't you just set the severity
of any normal release-critical bugs to important? That's what
important is for!
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David Welton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
bash
libreadline2
I'm willing to advise anyone that want to tackle this.
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Meskes, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Are you sure nothing depends on the older tcl an tk versions?
If so, they need to be updated. We're only going to have 7.6/4.2 and
8.
I'll start running pkg-order on the archive on a regular basis and
file bugs on unmet dependencies.
Guy
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Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 6 Jan 1998, Kai Henningsen wrote:
Disadvantage: needs a patch for cron, to scan this directory as well as
the usual user crontab directory, and to execute those cronjobs as root,
not as a user.
It's a small disadvantage, after all.
I
Meskes, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Couldn't we find a common way for packages to adjust other packages
conffiles?
The service registration mechanism I proposed earlier takes care of
this easily.
Netbase does this in the postinst:
provide-service --install-hook services netbase
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Pfaff) writes:
530-Sorry, there are too many anonymous users using the system at this
530-time. Please try again later. There is currently a limit of 10
530-anonymous users for your domain group.
Sometimes the ftpd on master gets hung.
Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have been looking al over for this trick... Tried this one to, which did
not work...
In the beginning of your .xsession:
eval $(ssh-agent)
ssh-add /dev/null
0 to /dev/null is important; otherwise you won't get the X interface
to ssh-add.
Guy
Fabrizio Polacco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I recently managed to add some sources in my -dbg shared lib packages,
to make them easily debuggable. (See bug#16038 on 30 Dec)
I rather liked your solution to the problem of debuggable shared libs,
but you need to figure out a way to not need to be
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Braakman) writes:
However, I don't know the history behind this. What is the reason for
not including Section and Priority by default?
Ian and I discussed it when I first started maintaining the archive.
dselect always takes the section and priority from the
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think Guy intended to move all packages that don't have source
to project/orphaned. So libc4 and xcompat, among others, moved.
If libc4 and xcompat are to remain in project/orphaned,
I moved all old source packages to orphaned, and flat out removed
Roderick Schertler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've got an expect script I use for my Quake servers which reboots them
if they become stuck. Would it be appropriate to ship that and use it
by default with the server packages?
Go ahead and include it, but don't run it by default so that you
I still have a not-quite-finished upgrade of the experimental dpkg-ftp
done. I fixed some bugs and added immediate configuration of
pre-depended on targets and essential packages. I also improved the
backend logic so that it will only use later backends if the version
is newer. For example, you
I had written a script which checks the archive for missing and extra
source and binaries some time ago. I've finally acted on its output.
I've orphaned any old source packages. Some are obviously obsolete
(such as tcl74, tcl75, tk40, tk41). Others are useful but have no
active maintainer.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
OK, I put all of that stuff in Incoming.
It's going to get rejected if his key isn't in the keyring.
Guy
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Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In my experience, the warnings have come from dangling symlink in the
lib directories. I'm not sure how they get there.
The dangling symlink could either be from a package which doesn't
include the symlink that ldconfig would create, or because the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) writes:
I'm planning to package `cvsweb-1.0'.
Q: Where does it go? Experimental, or unstable/web?
New software should typically go to unstable, unless it's really
dangerous or something.
Guy
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Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Say, ferinstance, that several revisions of a package are installed
and there are subtly different arguments each time. Or, that package
installation fails, is backed out, then installed then reconfigured?
Several clients or servers? Clients would
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This will not work for packages like Gnus, bbdb, w3,
hyperbole, vm, and psgml, since the compilation requires selectively
preloading some files, or even running complex build-scripts during
the compilation of the elisp files.
Why can't they
James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If the binary changes, the version number should change. Things
break if you don't increase the version number (e.g. automatic
upgrade and bug reporting) and you don't have to a source release to
do a non-maintainer release, just add a new entry to the
Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
While I agree that Gnus is the best thing since sliced bread, keep in
mind those in other countries where net access is *much* more
expensive.
I hardly think the duplicate messages represent a significant
percentage of their bandwidth.
For these
According to Stevens on page 300, writev is atomic, so I would regard
Linux's behavior as a bug.
Guy
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Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Recommends: ppp-pam
Recommends is for packages found together in all but unusual
sitations.
It's certainly not appropriate here. I wouldn't even use Suggests.
Just mention it in the description.
Guy
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Steve Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
1. If a user has amaya-static or amaya, dselect should replace it
with amaya
2. If the above is true, thot-common is installed; I want dselect to
remove it (and not allow it at the same time as the new amaya).
3. The ftp site puts the new
For the past two days, I've been sending out email with a broken From
address - using whatever dynamic IP I happened to be on at the moment.
I finally noticed it just now and fixed it. Gremlins had snuck into
my room and commented out (setq user-mail-address ...) !
So if you sent private email
James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
o By linking ppp with pam you are dragging libpam0g, libpam0g-util and
libpwdb0g into base.
This is fine, *as long as* it's been discussed and agreed first, I
don't like 3 shared library packages being silently dragged into
base. If we're going
Gonzalo A. Diethelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Perhaps you could point out how I could force all of those people
with broken mailers and/or ideas to use one of your great mail
clients, so I won't get four, five, six or more duplicates of the
messages sent to the list.
Gnus.
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Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think that we should have some sort of install procedure (a la
install-info) for emacs .el files.
We keep going down this route again and again - info, elisp, menu,
mime. Maybe we should generalize this?
Let's provide a system where packages could
Paul Slootman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So, perhaps the bunzip code could be included in the bzip2 package;
That sounds like the best idea.
Guy
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Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
With debmake, new functionality was added all the time, and was added into
the same debstd program, changing its behavior, and so different versions
could have widly differing results on the same package.
With debstd, each individual program has a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How fast are isp's converting to pap? No point in putting a lot of
work into dealing with chatscripts if they are going away soon.
I believe that there will soon (if not already) be very few ISPs which
don't support PAP or CHAP. chat isn't going to be used for
Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I thought I'd call the PAM-free ppp package ppp-base, like perl-base.
I'm still not sure about the best way to do this though. It looks like the
only thing that needs to be different is the pppd binary, so:
Should I make ppp contain only the pppd
Adrian Bridgett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sat, Dec 13, 1997 at 08:45:27PM +0100, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote:
[snip]
I have taken over the maintenance of debmake (on a temporary basis).
Some time ago, Ian said he was going to write a replacement for it, so I'm
just going to keep
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Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sorry... I'm using perl, and these functions are not avalible.. *sigh*
oh, yuck. You're just going to have to rewrite your routines to use
the new structure. I'm sure you can figure out a way to dynamically
determine which type of structure is being
G John Lapeyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The interface works the same as fdisk
Um, no. There is no interface. sfdisk is driven completely by a
config file describing the desired partition table.
Furthermore, it's already on your hard drive if you're running hamm.
It's part of
David Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So find someone to modify the libc5 in hamm to build both -dev and
-altdev packages. It isn't that hard.
That's really the only workable solution.
David, I do think you ought to add the Conflicts to older versions of
libc5 to libc6. This will prevent
Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wno-switch -fno-strength-reduce -malign-loops=2
-malign-jumps=
2 -malign-functions=2 -Demacs -I../src -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/include/db
-I/usr
/X11R6/include /usr/src/xemacs-20.3/lib-src/wakeup.c -L/usr/X11R6/lib
-ltermcap
Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sure, no prob, IF I know what the differences are... :)
Assuming you have libc6-dev and libc5-altdev installed,
/usr/include/utmpbits.h has the new structure, and
/usr/i486-linuxlibc1/include/utmp.h has the old structure.
The new structure has many
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Eloy A. Paris wrote:
does anyone know where are all the packages that were in
Incoming/HELD-FOR-GUY? This directory is empty now but at least samba
(which I maintain) has not been integrated into hamm (and samba was in
HELD-FOR-GUY).
Oh no! I had a
Michael Sobolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Whoops, forget I said the above sentence, I can't seem to find bzip
anywhere in Debian... My fingers automatically typed gzip instead of
bzip when searching :-(
The last time it was seen in non-us distribution.
Because of the patent issue
Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm sick of trying to find a useful workaround for people who just
want to install a few packages from hamm without upgrading the whole
thing.
There isn't one. I assumed you, as libc5-to-libc6 maintainer, knew
that.
Yes, it is theoretically possible
Andy Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It is different becuase the lzw patent holders (HP?) have given a
general license for non-profit use of the patent.
That's true. It's Unisys that holds the patent, btw.
The patent on bzip is moot anyway, as bzip2 does not have any patents
on it. It should
At one point, dinstall wasn't checking pgp signatures of .dsc files.
These files have slipped through. Please reupload them, or I'll file
bug reports:
blt_2.1-6.dsc: pgp error
courtney_1.3-3.dsc: pgp error
data-dumper_2.07-1.dsc: pgp error
dbview_1.0.3-3.dsc: pgp error
ddd_2.1.1-2.dsc: pgp error
Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
(c) Supply both sets of pages.
Surely the issue isn't important enough to double the mirror size?
Either a or b, but certainly not c.
Guy
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miquel van Smoorenburg) writes:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know that one of the latest fixes to dpkg-buildpackage deals with the
lack of utmp entries, but don't understand why they were abandoned.
They weren't - the size of the
Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Could somebody modify the upload scripts to check packages and source
files before moving them from incomming or is that to mauch cpu?
The install scripts do compare md5sums with the .changes and .dsc
files, and they run dpkg-deb -f on all the .debs.
Bit
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Francesco Tapparo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm working on the xdaliclock package, and I will take it to libc6. I have
merely recompiled it, and all has worked fine, except perhaps some warning
(perhaps present with libc5: I have not installed alt-libc5 as yet). This is
suspect to me, because
Thomas Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How do we encourage users to submit more bug reports when something
goes wrong?
Perhaps the `bug' package should be priority standard? It does make
bug reporting much easier.
Guy
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Brian S. Julin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
However I will end up with a major headache if I cannot reliably
map perl module names to debian package names.
One solution is to simply add a new field to the control file. dpkg
friends do preserve extra fields. `Perl-Module:' perhaps?
Guy
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Andreas Jellinghaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
i want to set the variable CPPFLAGS in my debian/rules, so all processes
called by make will have an evironment variable CPPFLAGS with that
content.
export CPPFLAGS = whatever
will do what you want. You should, of course, be calling submakes
There used to be a ro NFS mount of WebPages from wherever they
actually are to /home/Archives/ftp/debian/WebPages. Then there
wasn't. Now there apparently is again!
Sue, did you change your mind about this? If not, contact Mike N. so
he knows to take it back out.
Guy
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