On 25/01/08 at 15:25 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've done two rebuilds of sid on i386.
> - one in a perfectly clean chroot, as I usually do
> - one in a chroot, where as many build-dependancies as impossible were
> installed (take the Sources file, extract
h changing wnpp.d.n to point to whatever Sebastian
wants. It's currently a redirection because Sebastian told me that he
could not handle a vhost on his side, so I proposed to do it that way.
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On 26/01/08 at 08:59 +, Roger Leigh wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 03:25:15PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
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> > I'm not really sure of what we should do about those problems. The
> > easiest way to fix them is to use source-only uploads (to avoid packages
> &g
lve this. The two libwxgtk-dev packages are
> co-installable (obviously).
Build-Conflicts: libwxgtk2.6-dev?
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will have (and try to provide more info about the size problems, too).
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On 25/01/08 at 18:10 +0100, Daniel Leidert wrote:
> Am Freitag, den 25.01.2008, 16:37 +0100 schrieb Lucas Nussbaum:
> > On 25/01/08 at 15:59 +0100, Daniel Leidert wrote:
>
> [docbok-xsl-doc-html]
> > But if the size is the same, why would the Installed-Size differ? I have
>
On 25/01/08 at 15:59 +0100, Daniel Leidert wrote:
> Am Freitag, den 25.01.2008, 15:25 +0100 schrieb Lucas Nussbaum:
>
> > I've done two rebuilds of sid on i386.
> > - one in a perfectly clean chroot, as I usually do
> > - one in a chroot, where as many build-de
On 25/01/08 at 15:36 +0100, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 03:25:15PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > Of course, the list includes some false positives, but they are
> > difficult to identify without going through all the debdiff outputs and
> > build lo
siest way to fix them is to use source-only uploads (to avoid packages
built on broken maintainer machines), and a better sbuild that can use
lvm snapshots so that it can start all builds with a clean environment.
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On 25/01/08 at 12:16 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>
>> I made some stats (see [1]). 7.8% of our packages use quilt, while 14.4%
>> use dpatch. It would be great to document in some place (devref?) why
>> quilt should be used inst
n't think it's
obvious for everybody :)
[1] http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=275
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> * Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-24 20:44]:
> > What's the best way to deal with bugs from packages that are removed
> > from unstable? Currently, they are not closed when a package is removed.
&
e if bugs that don't affect unstable, testing,
stable or oldstable, but are not closed, are automatically archived?
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t as "resolved"? It's still listed as outstanding
> on
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=edac-utils;dist=unstable
Wasn't m68k supposed to be ignored by the BTS, since it's no longer a
released arch? It's already ignored by testing trans
to know:
> * what would your questions be?
the one above is fine
> * should i go for atom 1.0 or rss 2.0?
both? or pick one randomly. I don't think anybody has a strong
preference.
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>
> obviously has access to the data, so maybe someone on the qa team can
> comment.
You could simply download it from http://popcon.debian.org/ and parse
it...
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default. Could you please
re-post with dd-list -u?
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> On Jan 16, 2008 3:57 AM, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Package: piespy
> > version: 0.4.0-2
> > Severity: serious
> > User: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Usertags: qa-ftbfs-20080115 qa-ftbfs
>
profiling
data is not available or too old?
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http://qa.debian.org/data/bts2ldap/
It's very easy to parse (and import in an SQL DB, if you want)
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> here, e.g. increase the package-per-minute rate.
Good idea, just do it ;)
No, seriously, that's the kind of things that should probably be done
outside the debian infrastructure to start with, and moved "inside"
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case?
> If someone *really* wants to try forcing make to do a parallel build, they
> can always set MAKEFLAGS themselves directly.
True ; maybe dpkg-buildpackage -j is completely useless, actually.
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, so that we could easily keep our packages up with the best
> practices ?
You mean something like cdbs? ;)
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your bugs!
[1] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeLove
= Summary =
How can you help?
- Review/Improve the wiki pages
- Provide feedback
- Add the usertag to your bugs
Thank you, and merry christmas :-)
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to build their own packages, but it
seems better to push #209008 instead, so packages that take a long time
to build have a common interface to specify that parallel builds.
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(Ccing -release@, remember it's not a discussion list)
On 01/12/07 at 23:17 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 10:30:25PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > FYI, since we discussed this during the QA meeting: I just rebuilt all
> > pac
; > logs for the warning.
> >
> > Something like the patch below (stolen from the thread on linux-kernel).
>
> Sounds like something Lucas (CCed) could do.
I'm currently in VAC. I could start a rebuild on monday if someone
provides patched gcc packages for i386 for me.
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> Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > I like the idea, and think that you should go ahead with reporting the
> > bugs.
> >
> > However, if you are interested in that stuff, it could be a good idea to
> > contact the DEHS
head with reporting the
bugs.
However, if you are interested in that stuff, it could be a good idea to
contact the DEHS maintainer: there might be a way to integrate this into
DEHS, and avoid the HTML parsing ;)
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there a consensus that
those processes are OK? If not, what could we do, without making it too
painful for the NMUer?
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> someone to write about as a useful package for users if they are
> concerned about their packages being removed from Debian.
Feel free to submit an article about wnpp-alert and rc-alert :-)
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y appropriate,
it's better not to lie to the submitters, and tell them that we are
going to close the bugs if they don't answer. Keeping such bugs opened
is a non-sense anyway.
[0]
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2007-September/001737.html
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generate binary packages similar enough to what's already in the
archive."
Raphael's dpkg-shlibdeps work should also help with that, but it doesn't
seem like #430367 has progressed recently?
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>
> I am unable to connect to [1] though, so I am looking forward when
> it's up again to read the answers.
Up again, but I haven't published the answers yet. I will as soon as
I'll have the "next step" figured out.
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But that seems OK in my case?
* I could add a check in postinst, but thhat seems dirty/overkill
* I could just do nothing
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- Do you think that this should move to a seperate mailing list? Would
you participate in such a mailing list?
- Can you suggest a project that could host such a mailing list without
annoying anyone? :)
- Any other suggestions?
Thank you for reading me so far -- and for answering my questio
lacks tools to get a good overview of the reasons
why packages fail to build, which would make cases where one problem
affects many packages easier to detect. I also plan to work on that in
the near future.
Help is totally welcomed, as usual :-)
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that if complains if the fake tape has been written to.
I can run the test rebuild over all packages if someone provides a
working patch against sbuild. Also, can someone give an example package
that should fail that test?
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assume are similar tools, clusterssh and dsh.
Note that taktuk (also in the archive) is another similar package. The
description doesn't match 'ssh' currently, I'll fix this in the next
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On 17/07/07 at 11:53 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > [Lucas Nussbaum]
> >> The problem is that it isn't required to have exactly the same source
> >> tree after "./configure ; make ; make cle
On 11/07/07 at 12:29 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > I can't find how I can get the full history of LowThresholdNMU,
> > which could be a problem in case of abuse.
>
> http://wiki.debian.org/LowThresholdNmu?action=info shows
working on that? I will have problems finding
> > the time in the near future
>
> I'm willing to patch the PTS for this, assuming there's an agreement on
> doing this "the wiki way" as I proposed above.
As I said above, we can start with the wiki, and if we realize that it's
a problem, move to something else.
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Gustavo proposed to add a debian/nmupolicy file in his DPL platform. I'm
not really sure this is better than the current solution.
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Comments?
Is anyone interested in working on that? I will have problems finding
the time in the near future.
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But couldn't all the override stuff be something that could be worked on
by people without being FTP assistants? Exporting the overrides list to
$RANDOM_VCS and allowing people to submit patches in an easy way could
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packages benefit from it currently, but there was no reason until now for
packages
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tree after "./configure ; make ; make clean". It's just required that
"./configure ; make ; make clean ; ./configure ; make" works. It is
possible that the first build modifies some files, but that the package
can still be built, without being differerent from the on
#x27;t differ
from the archive") won't probably result in bugs being filed, since, in
most cases, it is enough to binNMU the affected packages.
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On 22/06/07 at 20:08 +0100, Joey Hess wrote:
> Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > acepack:
> > r-cran-acepack's depends differ:
> > -Depends: libc6 , libg2c0 , libgcc1 , r-base-core
> > +Depends: libc6 , libgcc1 , libgfortran1 , r-base-core
>
> Caught by th
On 22/06/07 at 13:51 +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Friday 22 June 2007 00:15, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > During my talk today at debconf, I discussed the idea of sending mails
> > to maintainers of packages with serious problems. The audience
> > welcomed the idea, so I will
On 22/06/07 at 00:36 +0200, Nico Golde wrote:
> Hi,
> * Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-06-22 00:17]:
> > During my talk today at debconf, I discussed the idea of sending mails
> > to maintainers of packages with serious problems. The audience
> > welcome
On 22/06/07 at 11:27 +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Colin Tuckley wrote:
> >> Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> >>
> >> > You will receive a mail:
> >> > * if one of your packag
to match.
Do you think it's a good idea?
Steinar, do you want to merge your release goal with that one, or do you prefer
me to file a seperate release goal? The main reason why I think they should be
merged is that the way to detect issues is similar.
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On 22/06/07 at 00:37 +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
> Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> Hi Lucas
>
> > The main problem is with packages that have dummy RC bugs to prevent
> > them from migrating to testing (see #395332 for example). Such
> > packages are difficu
lot. But reviewing some of the individual mails makes me think
that most of them are about real issues.
Any comments before I send the mails? For those interested, the slides
from my talk are available on http://blop.info/bazaar/dc7slides.pdf .
Interesting slides are pages 25-31.
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arted on this. The plan is to run such tests and use
the collab-qa project to review the results (see
http://collab-qa.alioth.debian.org/ ). We now only need people to join
and help with reviewing logs :-) (and it's not _that_ boring).
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On 13/06/07 at 15:19 +0100, Paul Wise wrote:
> On 6/13/07, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >It would be easy to get the list of packages that haven't reached
> >testing in the n months (and have been in debian for more than n months).
>
> Such a
On 13/06/07 at 11:19 +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Lucas Nussbaum ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070612 23:17]:
> > On 12/06/07 at 22:23 +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
> > > NO!
> > >
> > > unstable is meant for packages that should be in the next stable release,
> &g
we have a more aggressive policy about removals from
unstable, for packages that have failed to get into testing during the
past n months ?
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e good...
In your case, the best solution could have been to document the issue by
filing a bug yourself on your package, so everyone can easily learn
about the problem. It would also have saved the bug reporter some time
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> > also, where do I get the source code from (since the link
> > http://greek0.net/div/checklib.tar.gz seems broken)?
> >
> > maybe the source code may be uploaded in the alioth project
>
> that would be good yes.
Feel free to use the collab-qa alioth
ir?
As already mentioned by others, you are going to get a lot of false
positives.
An alternative could be to keep the files created by the first build
(*.{deb,diff.gz,orig.tar.gz,dsc,changes}) and compare them with those
from the second build, using debdiff. This would allow to spot the mos
ould be use to find out how data
from MIA could also be used in this process ?
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ut any
drawback I can see (the "all packages from the team" DDPO page is still
available using the the team mailing list address).
See also, on the same topic,
http://lists.debian.org/debian-perl/2007/01/msg7.html
Am I missing something ?
Shouldn't this be documented somewher
On 16/12/06 at 11:37 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Dec 16, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > module-init-tools (19946) RC bugs (#333052, #333522)
> No, it does not. Your script is broken.
For those two bugs, http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php?bydist=
) but not in testing.
dpkg-dev (0) RC bugs (#403216)
libpng12-dev (0) RC bugs (#401044)
rootskel (0) RC bugs (#402746, #402825)
libpng12-0 (0) RC bugs (#401423, #401465)
ntfsprogs (0) RC bugs (#379628)
iproute-dev (0) RC bugs (#397584)
libroxen-form (0) in unstable (1.0-11) but not in testing.
On 16/12/06 at 02:15 +, Stephen Gran wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Lucas Nussbaum said:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Here is a list (sorted by maintainer email) of packages:
> > - that have RC bugs
> > - that are in unstable, but not in testing
> >
> >
bian.org/ftp.debian.org for RM bugs,
but that still wouldn't remove all of them ...
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On 31/10/06 at 23:50 -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
> Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>
> > Some packages (e.g choose-mirror) fetch a newer version of a file during
> > build if it's possible to fetch that file. I don't think this is RC,
>
the behaviour of a package, and
the fact that a package builds if its build dependencies are satisfied
can only be considered true at the time of its upload, if the maintainer
has made the proper tests (build in a clean chroot/pbuilder).
Regards,
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ackages should not depend on ircd anyway, because the service and
the ircd can run on different systems.
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ian yet , and I'll be looking for
a sponsor shortly. If somebody is interested, drop me a note ;)
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