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table of content and didn't re-read the
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On 17.06.21 21:13, Marc Haber wrote:
Is there a bugreport for that?
There is now. 990026.
I marked it Serious because our system admins are seriously .-/ unhappy
about the change: we have a whole lot of systems with cronjob entries
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Also this is not mentioned in the `debian/cron.NEWS` file.
It's possibly a bit late to get this fixed before the release, but …
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actually works.
Next time I'll wait for the remainder of my migraine headache to go away
before asking questions I should have been able to figure out myself;
sorry about the noise.
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It's trying to use your personal key because what you are using is a
local demo of tag2upload. The real thing would have its own key with
upload rights.
Owch. I should have noticed it's local.
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to interfaces showing up in exactly the
wrong order makes the system unreachable. Frankly, I cannot imagine
anything way worse than that. Not in this context.
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So does any other documentation whose authors are convinced they're doing
something right. Would you demand a sidebar on gimp.org which praises the
cool features of Inkscape or Scribus?
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The fewer code (esp. code which are not in memory anyway)
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is found, this is probably the best of bad options.
Mmh. Granted that people might want to apt-cache search texlive
PACKAGENAME, the package description should just contain a list of
included CTAN modules. Just drop the descriptions.
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martin f krafft:
There are two problems here:
3. Spurious errors may be reported if fsck happens to run across an
inconsistent state.
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this is misconfigured.
Set up your router correctly, e.g. with a 192.168.x.1 address,
and turn on DHCP.
[ complete sysconf dbump ]
Doesn't matter.
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than a hang after upgrading to wheezy was (this was not at all uncommon IME)
and, most importantly,
* stop spreading FUD about abandoming users.
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run a
small web server on a local port / Unix socket, and reverse-proxy it,
just as easily.
FastCGI is just a slightly more fancy way of doing this.
The poor man alternatives like mod-php5 are nothing which a security
conscious admin would ever use.
Definitely.
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Marco d'Itri:
On Dec 04, Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de wrote:
If you can run a CGI inside a chroot/container/whatever, you can run a
small web server on a local port / Unix socket, and reverse-proxy it,
just as easily.
While using many more times the resources.
Which many
that right, I'd rather spend a megabyte or two on keeping a
real NTP server in memory. Yes, even on clients.
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Dmitriy Fitisov:
lsof /dev/ttyACM0
That I also tried last week. Nothing is open.
The next target of interest would be udev.
Which rules fire, and do they start anything?
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of his mails here) is that he happens to disagree with you.
If you intend to appear unreasonable, then I suppose this helps.
Otherwise, not so much.
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those things to
systemd, or opt to stick with sysvinit for now.
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this happened to be
the first user added to the system, is not.
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features, in a slightly different way, in each desktop environment.
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they leap, or decide to stay with
sys5 until they are in a position to fix problems on-site.
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enough for embedded systems (*), so I guess I don't really .
(*) IME one key feature you might not need on embedded systems is a way
to reliably shut down services, as the things tend to simply get
unplugged or disconnected.
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it's not as if we started discussing what systemd does (and how) yesterday.
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Hi,
Marc Haber:
Updating of such systems has always been a pain, but this time it's
going to be a gazillion times more painful.
Why? (Seriously.)
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matth...@urlichs.de wrote:
Yes, the logind-related parte _could_ be provided elsewhere, but part of
the features logind needs is already implemented in systemd. So using that
instead of rolling your own from scratch
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. More man-hours to write and
debug.
NB: s/there/they/.
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, with no attempt to convey their
reasoning to the other side (as you are doing now), then said other
side is (equally perfectly) entitled to disagree.
Unfortunately, that does not always help. As we see …
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a specification
(once you _have_ a stable API) and sticking to that.
But when things are in flux and you're in the process of figuring out what
the API should look like in the first place, having multiple places to
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, you need the actual file contents to make
sense of the hash. So, you might consider a Mercurial reflog to be roughly
the same thing as a git hash _plus_ the pack file you get from git repack
-A -ding the repository containing that commit.
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much rather have a notification method instead of polling.
(Doesn't have to be an explicit trigger; inotify() would also work.)
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/photos doesn't know which device to check.
Thus, I'd fix this problem in a different way -- either with an udev rule
that sets an appropriate symlink and/or outright mounts the volume when
something gets inserted, or with udisksctl, or by telling your desktop
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, which depends on
(the whole of) local-fs; thus, getting a normal Debian system to do
that is a nontrivial exercise which is definitely not in the cards
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more than one source version in the archive.
I do plan to investigate this idea further. Sometime after the release.
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. in the context of source code, but not all of them. I
would at least check whether $ and/or single quote works.
Regarding this bit of elisp, the pattern change looks reasonably sane.
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reset --hard git ls-files --others -z |
xargs -0r rm -f).
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systemd-delta only accesses the running systemd's configuration, hence is
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disks get mounted, and that doesn't happen.
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Hi,
Daniel Pocock:
This is probably tangential to the ongoing DEP-14 and source-only upload
discussions
How would people feel if dput was a wrapper around git?
How would you feel about forking Debian and switching an all-in-git
maintainance+build infrastructure?
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ExecStartPre=/bin/chown $USER /var/run/minidlna
You should use %u; see systemd.unit(5).
Also, one ExecStartPre stanza is sufficient:
ExecStartPre=/usr/bin/install -o %u -g %g -m 0750 -d /run/minidlna
(or whichever mode is appropriate)
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, the
'pam_session', 'pam_setcred', and 'use_pty' flags should be turned off,
as well as sudo's internal logging.
This will cause sudo to not create a PAM session, and directly exec() the
daemon instead of running an intermediate fork.
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. There were complains about the -rc.d prefix way back in Debconf2,
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The (author of the) document might want to mention that yes, this name is
stupid – and no, we can't easily change it.
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Scott Kitterman:
The cure for inappropriate speech is more speech.
This sentence lacks a necessary ingredient, i.e. the adjective
appropriate in front of the last word.
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way (i.e. pro Upstart), I would
have done the same thing.
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git branch head for the upstream branch. But I
realized that I usually remove this git branch manually directly afterwards
whenever it creates it.
Is there any advantage to doing so? If not: wouldn't it be easier,
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But that's a different topic.
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should be the
ones to write it up. I see that Simon (for example) is actively
engaging in the discussion.
Thanks; this is a good way to proceed.
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idea (how to do that is left as an exercise for the esteemed reader;
hint: diatribes about the change being The End Of Debian | Linux | Unix |
Civilization aren't going to work), and/or vote Further Discussion.
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communication. For confirmation, look at
any flame war where people write things they would (hopefully) never say to
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Hi,
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On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 01:13:39AM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Please discourage the use of pristine-tar. The format is fragile and can
suffer from bit rot.
I am not personally interested in pristine-tar, but I don't think this is the
right place to take a stance
as intensely as I don't, IMHO there's
not much common ground between the integrated- and the divided-
workflow adherents.
Thus, please don't try to shoehorn a divided workflow into this DEP.
Write your own.
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submodules for their personal code (dis)organization, so please only test
whether it exists, not whether it's a directory.
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On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 08:50:52AM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
I'd be in favor of a different approach: moderate debian-devel. Not the
content, but the list of people allowed to post. Pre-seed it with the
email adresses in our keyring and auto-add anybody who
at them. To me at least. Therefore I didn't
think of explicitly mentioning that; sorry if that was unclear.
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On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:41:12 PM Neil McGovern wrote:
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 01:30:58PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Andrey Rahmatullin:
I know. So? If the first email of a non-DD gets delayed for a few
hours,
that's an acceptable price to pay
.
Please discourage the use of pristine-tar. The format is fragile and can
suffer from bit rot.
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all love people playing games with our mailing lists.
To: debian-vote debian-curi...@lists.debian.org
So it's not been formally posted to -vote AFAICT. On the other hand, we
desperately need some levity there, so … Jakub, please do.
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, we're frozen, so implementing this choice _now_ should be off
the table, IMHO.
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Jonas Smedegaard:
Quoting Matthias Urlichs (2014-11-10 14:34:33)
The problem is that, apparently, any 'support' short of remove
systemd from Debian NOW will not shut up the most vocal detractors.
And shut up the most vocal detractors is only way to address or
discuss this?
s/shut
Hi,
Neil McGovern:
Also, please see the footnote in my mail above.
Indeed.
Some lies become truths if repeated often enough.
This one, apparently, was not.
Too bad, really.
But no matter. Zurg's time will come. :-P
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Sam, this is wonderful. Thanks on taking time to write this up.
Seconded. ;-)
NB: please don't fullquote unnecessarily.
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(With apt-get install foo bar ! baz as shorthand.)
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systemd in emergency mode, which (via systemctl start debug-shell)
allows you to observe why the boot fails without otherwise inter fering
with it.
If not (RAID config missing and thus mdadm not in the initramfs, encryption
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archive [0]?
Umm, which word of the above two sentences did you not understand?
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Hi,
Jonas Smedegaard:
Speaking of which: Is it Policy or just habit to use GCC over Clang?
Well, when Debian was started, clang didn't even exist – also, for a
long time it wasn't compatible with quite a few GCCisms in our sources
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On Oct 27, Tobias Frost t...@frost.de wrote:
Ok, so you are for removing audio group from user default groups?
Eventually, yes.
Did you mean maybe or for sure, someone
s/someone/sometime/
No.
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claim that daemontools-family service
managers lose track when daemons fork.
Sure, but that doesn't exist on Linux.
Linux has the PR_SET_CHILD_SUBREAPER prctl() flag for keeping track of your
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is not, thus
the discussion belongs there.
‣‣‣ Please, http://deb.li/mysql and MariaDB, finally die!
which, like your random armchair lawyer remark, I'd regard as borderline
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sys5init
Is this retaliation for all these systemD misspellings? :
No. I just *really* don' like Latin.
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