Re: Processed: ipv6 release goal

2010-03-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 08:55:09PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Hendrik Sattler > wrote: > > > BTW: How can I force that page to _not_ use the "preferred language" of the > > browser? Having to change that in the firefox/iceweasel settings every time > > is a bit...

Re: Source format 3.0 (quilt) and new debhelper dh syntax (maint-guide)

2010-03-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 06:34:37PM +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Osamu Aoki [100322 17:27]: > > I am talking about new style debian/rules: > > --- > > %: > > dh --with patch $@ > > --- > > That is missing some > .PHONY: binary binary-arch binary-indep clean bu

Re: Bug#574881: ITP: freewrl -- VRML browser for 3D contents works also as mozilla plugin

2010-03-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 10:08:51PM +0100, Philippe Coval wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Philippe Coval > > > * Package name: freewrl > Version : 1.22.5 > Upstream Author : John Stewart, Sarah Dumoulin ... crc.ca> > * URL : http://freewrl.source

Re: tdpkg cache wrapper to dpkg

2010-03-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:55:19PM +0100, Luca Bruno wrote: > Hello, > it's since 2007 that cache for dpkg has been proposed but maintainers never > replied. For this reason I've written a shared library libtdpkg.so to wrap > open/fstat/rename/unlink calls from dpkg for .list files in order to cach

Re: Bug#572733: support for mounting other kernel filesystems

2010-03-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 02:51:11AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > /dev/something just feels so wrong. /dev contains block and character > > devices, and almost nothing else (except some udev and initramfs files) > > Why should cgroups control files, which are hardly device files, be > > found under

Re: Bug#572733: support for mounting other kernel filesystems

2010-03-05 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 05:03:05AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Do we agree to mount these filesystems on /dev/ subdirectories? > Fedora[1] uses /dev/hugepages/ for hugetlbfs, and while we had a > discussion on debian-devel@ about where cgroups should be mounted there > was no clear winner. > The u

Re: md5sums files

2010-03-03 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 02:39:05PM +0100, Harald Braumann wrote: > On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 03:06:20AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > In this day and age of completely and utterly broken MD5[0], I think we > > should stop providing these files, and maybe provide something else > > instead. Like,

Re: md5sums files

2010-03-03 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 08:29:09AM +, Neil Williams wrote: > On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:35:18 +0100 > Mike Hommey wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 06:30:34AM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > > > > > > The md5 sums isn't to be used in case of a break in, as

Re: md5sums files

2010-03-02 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 06:30:34AM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2010-03-03, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > wou...@celtic:/var/lib/dpkg/info$ ls *md5sums|wc -l > > 2340 > > > In this day and age of completely and utterly broken MD5[0], I think we > > should stop providing these files, and maybe pro

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 09:03:10AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:51:11 +0100, Raphael Hertzog > wrote: > >On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Marc Haber wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:08:16PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > >> > * More than 1000 source packages[4] are already using

Re: Flag images

2010-02-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 06:38:00PM +0100, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Dmitry E. Oboukhov (un...@debian.org): > > There are many packages in debian contain flag images. > > > I think this whole thread answeredsomething that wasn't asked in > your question (is is good or bad to use flags

RFH: Re: Bug#570056: iceweasel: SIGSEGV - nsDOMEvent::AddRef

2010-02-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 07:33:19AM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote: > > Other than that, with your core file, could you at least get (and send) > > the output for disassemble, info registers, and info locals ? > > Attached. There definitely is something weird going on, because according to the value in

Re: Possible DDPOMail improvements?

2010-02-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:52:17AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 15/02/10 at 20:20 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > Lucas Nussbaum writes: > > > > > On 15/02/10 at 00:26 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > I "accept" the mails by deleting them unread. I know where the PTS > > > > is, I don't nee

Re: Possible DDPOMail improvements?

2010-02-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:00:19AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Lucas Nussbaum > wrote: > > > However, what could be done is to rewrite DDPO in a more "modern" way, > > leveraging UDD (as DDPO-by-mail does). Since almost all the data is > > already in UDD, it's main

Re: Possible DDPOMail improvements?

2010-02-14 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 02:57:45PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 13/02/10 at 21:09 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 08:46:31PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > But we are constantly wondering where we should go from there. Should we > > > add

Re: Possible DDPOMail improvements?

2010-02-13 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 08:46:31PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > But we are constantly wondering where we should go from there. Should we > add more data (like the RC bugs in stable and the unfixed security > issues)? Or should we instead try to decrease the amount of data (to > increase the signa

Re: Binary package names for mozilla plugins [Was: Bits from the Mozilla Extension Packaging Team]

2010-02-02 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 07:59:04PM +0100, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > Hi -devel, > > > The Mozilla extension packaging team decided to use xul-ext- (instead of > > mozilla-, iceweasel-, etc.) as prefix for all Mozilla extensions [1]. > > This will group the extensions visually. There are currently 1

Re: [Pkg-mozext-maintainers] Bits from the Mozilla Extension Packaging Team

2010-02-02 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 12:11:07PM +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote: > 2010/2/2 Mike Hommey : > > On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 08:34:31PM +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> This mail targets all developers, which maintain Mozilla exten

Re: [Pkg-mozext-maintainers] Bits from the Mozilla Extension Packaging Team

2010-02-01 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 08:34:31PM +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote: > Hi, > > This mail targets all developers, which maintain Mozilla extensions. > > Source package name > === > > The source package name for extension should not contain the name of the > enhanced application. These

Re: correct/ideal way to obtain root from a shell script

2010-01-31 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 06:42:07PM +, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 01:14:35AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le samedi 30 janvier 2010 à 22:58 +, Jon Dowland a écrit : > > > I need to run a command as the superuser inside > > > game-data-packager (gdp). Up until now, I

Re: Uploads without the architecture-dependant binary packages.

2010-01-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 06:24:49PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Charles Plessy writes: > > > Hi all, > > > > I found it interesting that a package like git-core is autobuilt on all > > ports > > since at upload time it only contains the source and > > architecture-independant > > binary

Bug#566378: ITP: dehydra -- Scriptable static analysis tool for C++

2010-01-23 Thread Mike Hommey
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mike Hommey * Package name: dehydra Version : 0.9.hg20100123 Upstream Author : Mozilla Corporation * URL : https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Dehydra * License : GPL2+ Programming Lang: C, C++, JS, tiny bits of python

Re: Debian vs. Ubuntu source control file

2010-01-05 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 02:00:46PM +0100, Xavier Roche wrote: > Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > >>What do you, folks, think of this case ? > >I would merge the change even if the package doesn't exist. > > What about lintian crying in the rain ? More seriously, can we > assume that we'll never have pa

Re: where is /etc/hosts supposed to come from?

2009-12-31 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 02:02:36PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > POSIX says: > > If the AI_CANONNAME flag is specified and the nodename argument is > not null, the function shall attempt to determine the canonical name > corresponding to nodename (for example, if nodename is an alias or >

Re: Bug#563109: ITP: e17-modules-svn -- Misc plugins for the e17 window manager

2009-12-30 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:28:37PM +0100, Albin Tonnerre wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Albin Tonnerre > > > * Package name: e17-modules-svn > Version : 0.16.999.063 > Upstream Author : e17 development team > > * URL : http://www.enlightenment.

Re: quilt 3.0 source format and dpkg-source/dpkg-buildpackage

2009-12-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:40:34PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Raphael Geissert writes: > > > 3.0 would be friendlier if it would only *not* automatically apply the > > patches when extracting the source. But then there's not much point for > > dpkg to know about patches. > > I do think the pro

Re: GDM, getty and VTs

2009-12-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 12:53:27PM -0600, Mark Allums wrote: > On 12/27/2009 12:21 AM, Gaijin wrote: > Ice > >Weasel won't run many web pages as well as it does in Windows Firefox, > >including my Linksys router's configuration page, > > > Iceweasel will run everything Firefox on Windows will,

Re: where is /etc/hosts supposed to come from?

2009-12-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 10:38:58PM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > Brian May wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 03:52:44AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > Considering that any non-trivial server needs to send email out, having > > > a working FQDN configured is not "obsolete". > > > > I beli

Re: gnat-4.4 is blocking most big transitions atm

2009-11-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 09:46:51AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > Hi > > gnat-4.4 FTBFS on mipsel which is blocking gcc-defaults from migrating > to testing which is blocking at least the poppler and gnome related > transitions. xulrunner was reuploaded again and needs to be built > everywhere first be

Re: Tool suggestions for new formats?

2009-11-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 03:43:42AM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > Hi! > > On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 17:28:39 -0800, Rodrigo Gallardo wrote: > > Part of my usual workflow with the 1.0 format is to do an interdiff on > > the .diff.gz from the previous version to the one I intend to upload, > > to check t

Re: Unversioned .so file in /usr/lib vs dh_makeshlibs vs postinst-must-call-ldconfig

2009-11-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:05:28PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le lundi 23 novembre 2009 à 14:00 +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko a > écrit : > > > > I found that adding missing call to dh_makeshlibs does not fix the > > > > issue, because package installs a private shared library to > > > > /usr

Re: New source package formats now available

2009-11-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:10:51AM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > * Raphael Hertzog [2009-11-23 09:50:15 CET]: > > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > > > Actually, I feel rather to convert my packages to 3.0 (native) + quilt. > > > The way quilt is implied in 3.0 (quilt) doesn't seem to

Re: New source package formats now available

2009-11-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:30:00AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > Well, they can drop the patch in debian/patches, and add it to > > > the end of debian/patches/series. If quilt is installed, it should > > > work as dpkg-source will use quilt

Re: Applied-Upstream field for Patch Tagging Guidelines (DEP-3)

2009-11-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:18:37AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Benjamin Drung writes: > > > Hi, > > > > When a new upstream version is released, I have to check all patches if > > they were accepted by upstream or not. I have to check each patch if I > > can drop it. It would make packag

Re: New source package formats now available

2009-11-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 11:30:45AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 10:48:14AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > Because you want the patch to be clearly identified and to carry its > > > meta-informati

Re: New source package formats now available

2009-11-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 10:48:14AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Because you want the patch to be clearly identified and to carry its > meta-information. Or because maybe you're applying 2 separate patches in > the same NMU upload. "Fixing cosmetic issues or changing the packaging style in NMUs

Re: New source package formats now available

2009-11-21 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 08:51:51PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Currently a package without a patch system needs heavy modifications in > debian/rules to setup the patch system. So when you want to add a patch in > debian/patches and not in the .diff.gz, you have to choose a patch system > in pl

Re: nexuiz-data does not fit on a single CD

2009-11-20 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 01:33:29PM -0200, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 15:23 +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > Ack. People which use computers which did not came with a DVD reader built > > in > > are probably not able to play nexuiz anyway as it needs a pretty fastCPU and >

Re: Anjal package needs RPATH, which is considered an error

2009-11-20 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 04:17:57PM +0800, Li, Yan wrote: > Dear List, > > I'm facing an issue when packaging the Anjal [1] mail client for > Debian. > > Anjal is another GUI front-end for Evolution designed for small form > factor devices. So naturally Anjal depends upon many .so libraries in > t

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:16:41PM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2009-11-18, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > > I am a bit confused with respect to how buildd autosigning is required > > for this. It makes it sound somehow like it would affect porter binary > > Basicalyl, the turnaround time is too lon

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:48:53AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 11936 March 1977, Charles Plessy wrote: > > >> source-only uploads > > I am curious on how the rebuild of the architecture-independant packages > > happens. > > That depends on what we get out with in the end. > Probably all buil

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 04:15:35PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > Tracking arch all packages > -- > #246992 asked us to not delete arch all packages before the > corresponding (if any) arch any packages are available for all > architectures. Example: whenever a new source pa

Re: xulrunner, poppler, gnome and gupnp transitions

2009-11-14 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 12:48:11PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > Hi > > Currently there are 4 rather big transitions going on, none of which is > ready to transition. Following are the things that currently are an > issue or that show why the 4 transitions are coupled: > > * xulrunner: Sorry, I dela

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-12 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 06:38:25PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:45:04PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:43:19AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > > John Goerzen wrote: > > > > My suggestion is this: > > > &

Re: Build logs from local builds

2009-11-12 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 01:51:41PM -0200, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 09:58 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > I actually never experienced problems that were not due to my DSL > > connection, which means they can happen at any time. In which case I'd > &

Re: GR proposal: the AGPL does not meet the DFSG (take 2)

2009-11-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:45:25PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: > Again, this is not the language that the AGPL uses. It requires that > "your modified version must prominently offer all users interacting with > it remotely through a computer network" the source. Notice the text > "your modifie

Re: Build logs from local builds

2009-11-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:54:38AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > Sandro Tosi wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:42, Michal Čihař wrote: > >> Hi > >> > >> Dne Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:39:38 +0100 > >> Sandro Tosi napsal(a): > >> > >>> As a personal note, as one of those unlucky people with a very slow >

Re: Build logs from local builds

2009-11-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:52:12AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > You don't have to start over if the upload did not fail in the middle of > a file, but failed right after a file. It may seem unlikely, but I've > had these failures way more often than failures in the middle of a file. > > So if it did

Re: Build logs from local builds

2009-11-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:48:13AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > Michal Čihař wrote: > > Hi > > > > Dne Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:39:38 +0100 > > Sandro Tosi napsal(a): > > > >> As a personal note, as one of those unlucky people with a very slow > >> network connection: if binary packages built by maintai

Re: Build logs from local builds

2009-11-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:39:38AM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote: > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 08:30, Adam Majer wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 02:58:19PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 26 2009, Adam Majer wrote: > >> > Or here's a radical idea - allow source only uploads of packages.

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 07:37:56AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Mike Hommey (m...@glandium.org): > > > - Adding Firefox to Camino: > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384721 > > Where we can see that dbaron is against it. > > IMHO, with

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 04:26:15PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:43:19AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > >> John Goerzen wrote: > >>> My suggestion is this: > >>> > >>> Take the default Firef

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:33:42PM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Mike Hommey (10/11/2009): > > Let me suggest adding "(like Firefox/3.5)", but I'm not sure how the > > crappy sites parsing the version number will deal with the closing > > parenthesis. >

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:05:47PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:45:04PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:43:19AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > > John Goerzen wrote: > > > > Firefox/x.y.z Iceweasel/x.y.

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:43:19AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > John Goerzen wrote: > > My suggestion is this: > > > > Take the default Firefox user agent. > > > > Where you see Firefox/x.y.z, change it to: > > > > Firefox/x.y.z Iceweasel/x.y.z > > > > And that will accomplish everything need

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:10:39AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > I was going to test Epiphany on sid, but I couldn't since it's using > Webkit instead of Gecko here, and thus a very different user-agent. Epiphany never had a Firefox string in Debian. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-deve

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 04:29:39PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:23:10AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > > Let me suggest adding "(like Firefox/3.5)", but I'm not sure how the > > > crappy sites parsing the version number will dea

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:23:10AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > Let me suggest adding "(like Firefox/3.5)", but I'm not sure how the > > crappy sites parsing the version number will deal with the closing > > parenthesis. > > I would not expect that to achieve the same level of compatibility. Th

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 08:54:41AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 10:12:07AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> The fact that Iceweasel does not behave like Firefox in some important > >>

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:42:48PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:57:22AM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > Give me a UA string that: > > > And I will change it before squeeze freeze. > > FWIW, thanks a lot for this choice. > > I underst

Re: xulrunner, poppler, gnome and gupnp transitions

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 12:48:11PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > Hi > > Currently there are 4 rather big transitions going on, none of which is > ready to transition. Following are the things that currently are an > issue or that show why the 4 transitions are coupled: > > * xulrunner: > - iceweasel

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 10:12:07AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > Hi everyone, > > The fact that Iceweasel does not behave like Firefox in some important > areas has been bothering me more and more of late. Iceweasel breaks > many, many web apps by virtue of not using the Firefox user-agent > strin

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:22:38AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > Is there a particular browser that you would advocate replacing iceweasel > with as the default browser in Debian? If Debian is going to switch to > another browser as the default, which also provides an engine compatible > with fir

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-09 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 06:51:16AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > After all, what does prevent us to just put "Firefox" back in the > default User-Agent? We'll see if some Mozilla person raises an RC bug > and then we would talk..:-)...That would be the pragmatic approach. Another pragmatic app

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-09 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 07:25:55AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Paul Wise: > > > Probably the best solution is to get all the web browsers out there > > (especially Firefox) to drop the User-Agent HTTP header and not send > > it to web servers. It is abused way too often by web applications an

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-09 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 02:19:40PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > A constructive technical approach to this problem might be to get > chromium into Debian. Its UA claims to be Mozilla, AppleWebKit, Chrome, > and Safari, all of which have big enough market shares that websites > tend to "support" them.

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-09 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 06:00:35PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 10:12:07AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > I know there may be technical arguments that "people shouldn't be using > > user agent like that." But the reality is that they are, and w

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-09 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 10:12:07AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > I know there may be technical arguments that "people shouldn't be using > user agent like that." But the reality is that they are, and we have a > serious usability problem because we change user agent. There's no > reason that we'd

Re: xulrunner, poppler, gnome and gupnp transitions

2009-11-08 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 12:53:18PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 12:48:11PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > > Hi > > > > Currently there are 4 rather big transitions going on, none of which is > > ready to transition. Following are the things that cu

Re: xulrunner, poppler, gnome and gupnp transitions

2009-11-08 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 12:48:11PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > Hi > > Currently there are 4 rather big transitions going on, none of which is > ready to transition. Following are the things that currently are an > issue or that show why the 4 transitions are coupled: > > * xulrunner: > - iceweasel

Re: binutils-gold and symbols files

2009-11-05 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 12:44:31AM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > As I received a couple of bug reports today about packages FTBFS, I installed > binutils-gold and tried to compile a few of my packages with it. > > What I noticed is, that every package with symbols file, produced a lintian > error,

Re: /var/www is depracated, which directory to use?

2009-11-02 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 02:27:16PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 01:30:37PM +0100, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: > > Manoj Srivastava writes: > > > > > As I mentioned on IRC, look at trac. The trick is put configuration > > > files in /etc

Re: /var/www is depracated, which directory to use?

2009-11-02 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 01:30:37PM +0100, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: > Manoj Srivastava writes: > > > As I mentioned on IRC, look at trac. The trick is put configuration > > files in /etc/munin/, and symlink it back into /var/lib/munin if munin > > needs that. > > All munin needs is a place t

Re: Cross compiler ITP (armel)

2009-11-02 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 12:25:16PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > You can disagree all you like, but I believe that the FTP team will > > currently reject any new packages that use source code from their build- > > dependencies. It would likely be a waste of Hector's tim

Re: Lintian based autorejects

2009-10-27 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 02:57:35PM +, Simon McVittie wrote: > > Some examples of tags I consider reasonable to auto-reject, because they > should be easy to fix (but many of them should be bug reports anyway): > - binary-file-compressed-with-upx > - copyright-lists-upstream-authors-wit

Assumptions about buildd filesystems

2009-10-24 Thread Mike Hommey
Hi, Is is safe to assume buildds filesystems (at least the ones where builds are done) are all able to cope with 2TB (sparse) files, which is the maximum that ext3 can handle on standard setups ? Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscr

Bug#551992: general: stopping squeeze chroot shuts system

2009-10-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:04:02PM +0200, mar...@grachtwal.nu wrote: > >> In a lenny chroot, on the same system, rc6.d/S90reboot calls 'reboot -d > >> -f > >> i' and that works like I'd expect; the chroot is stopped and the system > >> keeps on running. > >> In the squeeze chroot we have rc6.d/K09r

Re: Something like Pre-Depends for Suggests

2009-10-19 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 04:37:03PM +0200, Michal Čihař wrote: > Hi > > I think this problem is common to more packages, but I hit this at > phpMyAdmin. The problem is that it Suggests mysql-server because it can > also work with remote server. In the same time it uses dbconfig-common > to configur

Re: Can not install both "brasero" and "lvm2"

2009-10-18 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 02:59:43AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 08:36 +0800, John Wong wrote: > > I want install both "braseor" and "lvm2", but when i install "braseor", > > apt-get must remove "lvm2". > > whan i "apt-get install brasero" > > > > The following extra packages

Re: Bug#551210: ITP: blame -- display the last modification for each line in an RCS file

2009-10-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 08:23:34AM -0700, Andrew Pollock wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Andrew Pollock > > * Package name: blame > Version : 1.3.1 > Upstream Author : Michael Chapman > * URL : http://blame.sourceforge.net/ > * License : G

Re: Bug#550860: ITP: gnaughty -- downloader for adult content

2009-10-14 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:46:48AM +0200, Patrick Matthäi wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Russ Allbery schrieb: > >> Please move this whole discussion to debian-legal now. > > > > No. debian-legal is the place for license nit-picking, which isn't what > > this discus

Re: Bug#550860: ITP: gnaughty -- downloader for adult content

2009-10-14 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 05:18:33PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:13:10 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:57:19 -0400, James Vega wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Michael Gilbert > > > wrote: > > > > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:27:25 +0200, Yv

Re: Bug#550860: ITP: gnaughty -- downloader for adult content

2009-10-13 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 05:58:01PM +0200, Frederic Peters wrote: > Michal Čihař wrote: > > > * Package name: gnaughty > > Version : 1.2.0 > > Upstream Author : Troy McClure > > * URL : http://gnaughty.sourceforge.net/ > > * License : GPL > > Programming Lang:

Re: replacing libreadline5-dev build dependency with libreadline-dev

2009-10-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 04:41:43PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:21:11PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 13 2009, Matthias Klose wrote: > > > > > Both libreadline-dev (>= 6.0) and libreadline6-dev are now available > > >

Re: btrfs

2009-10-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 02:24:36PM +, The Fungi wrote: > On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 12:01:13AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > [...] > > But it has been pointed out a few times (including a couple of > > private messages) that experimental has what I desire (thanks for > > the advice everyone). > [.

Re: ITP: libjs-extjs -- a cross-browser JavaScript library

2009-10-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 03:58:45PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Wed, 07 Oct 2009, Marcus Better wrote: > > This is non-free. Please keep it out of Debian. > > > > Surely you are aware of the huge controversy around Ext JS licensing. > > > > There is no need to repeat that story here, let me

Re: Policy §10.4 as a divergence from usptrea m (renamings to remove extensions like .pl and .sh).

2009-09-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:59:03PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > David Goodenough wrote: > > > I am a newcommer to this particular bit of policy, but it occurs to me that > > the answer is to add links to the original commands to conform to > > Debian standards while leaving the upstream commands

Re: renamings to remove extensions

2009-09-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 07:30:44PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > "Steve M. Robbins" writes: > > > I agree with Charles: this is unncessary, unproductive busy-work. > > The same characterisation could be given to other changes that raise the > quality of software in Debian (e.g. ensuring that comman

Re: The future of the boot system in Debian

2009-09-27 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 03:35:41PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > IME, simple initrds that don't really impact on your hability to boot > > are fine (and great to load firmware, CPU microcode and kernel modules), > > but anything else (like root on lvm or on non-auto-started md arrays) > > will ca

Re: Auto Backporting (Was: Backports of scientific packages)

2009-09-27 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 05:40:58PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Rene Engelhard wrote: > > > Shouldn't checking if Build-Depends are satisfiable in stable be enough? > > > And if it doesn't build that way, I'd say there's a bug in the package > > > anyways, because it should b

Re: Auto Backporting (Was: Backports of scientific packages)

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 04:39:20PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 04:06:15PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 03:56:00PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > > So in short: we should choose the "well-defined"

Re: Auto Backporting (Was: Backports of scientific packages)

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 03:56:00PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > So in short: we should choose the "well-defined" subset of packages > which are candidates for autobackporting according to their feature to > be buildable inside stable and using an control field to mark the > packages that way. Sh

Re: libjpeg62-dev -> libjpeg-dev transition

2009-09-18 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 12:04:32AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > Dear developers, > > There is a new version of libjpeg in the archive (JPEG7), but is it > not yet cleared for building packages against it. > > If your package Build-Depends on libjpeg62-dev, please change to 'libjpeg-dev' > (with

Re: Of the use of native packages for programs not specific to Debian.

2009-09-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 09:25:39AM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > But if we pack as non-native (as it should be: we are not upstream), > more problems arises: > we cannot patch anymore debian directory: on 3.0 source format > the original debian dir will disappear, thus removing the > debian/

Re: replacing libreadline5-dev build dependency with libreadline-dev

2009-09-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:21:11PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sun, Sep 13 2009, Matthias Klose wrote: > > > Both libreadline-dev (>= 6.0) and libreadline6-dev are now available > > in unstable and testing. If possible, please replace the > > libreadline5-dev build dependency with libreadl

Re: Discussion: New feature for source packages

2009-09-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 01:11:07AM +0200, Luca Niccoli wrote: > 2009/9/16 Russ Allbery : > > > If there were a document of how to do automated module builds using > > triggers or a kernel hook, I'd be happy to try that as well. > > I tried to set up a kernel hook with the script I attached before

Re: Discussion: New feature for source packages

2009-09-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:57:06PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Mike Hommey writes: > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:49:42PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > >> Every time either the openafs-modules-dkms package or the kernel ABI > >> changes, a new module is automatic

Re: Discussion: New feature for source packages

2009-09-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:49:42PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Mike Hommey writes: > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:41:40PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > >> I've been shipping an openafs-modules-dkms package since DKMS entered > >> the archive and love

Re: Discussion: New feature for source packages

2009-09-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:41:40PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > "Hans-J. Ullrich" writes: > > Am Dienstag 15 September 2009 schrieb Peter Samuelson: > >> [Hans-J. Ullrich] > > >>> DKMS seems only be made for kernel modules. It is greart anyway, and > >>> a good help. But what with non-kernel- mod

Re: Talk: Reflections of a bigtime Debian bug reporter

2009-09-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 01:46:31PM +0530, Kartik Mistry wrote: > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > Especially the 'what did you expect' is important, as it often make it > > possible to differentiate between software bugs, documentation bugs > > and plan simple user e

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