Adam P. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What if you have Xemacs *and* Emacs installed, and want to use auctex
from both?
Last time (a couple weeks ago) I tried selecting both xemacs and emacs,
I found that they conflicted.
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Any better suggestions ?
run-parts should pass arguments which follow the directory.
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Adrian Bridgett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
cp fred.{txt,html} dest- cp fred.txt fred.html dest
function f() {echo Hi;}- f() {echo Hi;}
should be
f(){ echo Hi;}
you MUST have a space after the opening brace. Of course, extra
spaces are legal:
f ( ) { echo Hi ; }
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Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Raul continues to suggest using a CGI program:
Er.. note that I'd also suggested using a proxy server. I even
supplied code for such.
We have more mirrors than places we can run CGI scripts.
Note that a proxy server can be run more places than a CGI
Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That said, it appears that the only policy compliant way for a package
to run a script more frequently than once a day is to register a user,
and create a crontab for that user. This is not too onerous for
news or sendmail, but seems like overkill for
I intend to package the beta enlightenment window manager, imlib, and
the default themes. If anyone wants to do it instead, I'll happily
fall back to kibitz mode -- let me know.
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Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Having a user for mrtg doesn't seem very appropriate to me, though.
Mrtg is a simple program, that needs to run every 5 minutes. A user is
overkill.
If a user is overkill then cron probably is too. You'd probably do
fine with something like
(
trap
Jim Pick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lalo Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] did a package of beta 12, back in
August, but he didn't upload it since he was waiting for developer
status. I wonder what happened? Did we lose another one?
I was going to pick it up from him, but...
Anyways, his old package
Dermot John Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW Can anyone tell me how to create a package based on pristine source
using debmake?
From www.debian.org, hit developers corner. Then, start with Creating
a Package using Debmake, after that, hit New-Maintainer's Debian
Packaging Howto. Get your
Joe Emenaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The only problem is that it uses Perl. I haven't read the Debian policies
so I don't know if Perl (or a stripped down version of it) is one of the
things I can assume is on even the most minimal system. If not, I can do
the same thing with bash/sed, I
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
# generate the control file
% make-ppkg --generate --package libcgi-perl --module CGI-modules control
% vi control# make sure things look ok (espescially version numbers)
% make-ppkg -d my-packaging-directory control
% dpkg -I
Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can see a security problem with this.
Absolutely: pre/post inst/rm scripts run as root, this is the security
problem to dwarf all other security problems.
Our defense is a wide audience. The more people we have looking at the
system, the better
It occurs to me that one avenue for a safe upgrade to hamm might be
a jumbo-package.
This would basically be a hand crafted .deb that contained (and
provides) all the relevant sensitive packages.
The downside is that this approach is laborious to implement. The
upside is that this
On Jun 27, Erik B. Andersen wrote
For most math, expr works just fine. Of course, expr is limited
to integer math, but it works and is portable.
Oops, you're right -- my biases are showing, sorry.
[I make it a practice to never use expr.]
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On Jun 22, Mark Eichin wrote
Except that the xterm-color entry isn't particularly widespread, yet;
so if you rlogin or telnet somewhere that doesn't have it, you pretty
much lose.
termcap supported the TERMCAP environmental variable, which solved
problems like this (and like linux not being
On Jun 6, Colin R. Telmer wrote
I just noticed that Corel is just in the process porting Wordperfect 7 to
Linux and the following is on the web page
http://www.sdcorp.com/wplinux7.htm:
Certified Operating Systems
RedHat 2.0.18
Slackware 2.0.25
OpenLinux 1.0
Should we try to get
On Jun 2, Jim Pick wrote
Just so you understand why I'm so interested - I'm working on porting dpkg
to cygwin32.
Porting or re-implementing? If it's a port, dpkg is already under
gpl, so cygwin32 being under gpl shouldn't be an issue. [Even if
it wasn't, I don't understand how a gpl'd dll
On Jun 1, Jim Pick wrote
Actually, I had a very similar polite argument with RMS via private e-mail
(about linking Java libs with mixed GPL/LGPL/proprietary licenses). He
was pretty solid on the fact that run-time linking is the same as
compiled-in linking.
Yep, once the run-time linking has
On Jun 2, Jim Pick wrote
The cygwin.dll case in an example where the GPL is being used to restrict the
rights of other people using the code so that they can't do something taboo
such as charge money, while at the same time, reserving the right for the
authors to do the exact same thing. To
On Jun 1, Galen Hazelwood wrote
My understanding was that if a shared library is GPL'd rather than
LGPL'd, linking commercial programs against it is illegal unless you
provide source. The LGPL removes that restriction, and that's why glibc
(as well as libg++) uses the LGPL.
Static linking
On May 29, Bruce Perens wrote
I must admit to not understanding what that qmail alias file is for.
I do _all_ of my aliases with .qmail-* files .
What I was trying to achieve was to have qmail forward a message without
messing around with the headers any more than necessary. Thus, I wanted
On May 31, Galen Hazelwood wrote
Perhaps. Anybody have any serious arguments? I think the reason we
configure gcc as i486 is so it automatically optimizes for the 486; it's
a good middle ground.
If I remember right, configuring for pentium leaves an executable
that might not run on 386 or
On 1 Jun 1997, Mark Eichin wrote:
actually, a lot of us find the sound driver stuff objectionable too
(because it leaves us with practically useless sound code, almost
enough to drive one to NetBSD :-) I still don't have any way to use
*both* ESS1688's in my laptop (when docked), which
On Jun 1, Leland Olds wrote
free means different things to different people. Personally, I like
the Debian/Gnu definition. But if someone else uses it in another way,
that doesn't mean that they are scammers and are trying to mislead us.
Um... in principle. On the other hand, that doesn't
David Frey:
PS: I was never able to reliably switch the Ctrl/CapsLock key a la Sun.
On May 28, Kai Henningsen wrote
And don't do this as a standard feature, either - CapsLock is bad enough
on its own, but switching it with Ctrl would make a keyboard just about
unusable for me. The way I
On May 28, Yann Dirson wrote
BTW, psupdate is the only program I can think about using
System.map. Are there any other ?
lsof
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On May 29, Sven Rudolph wrote
IMHO this should be changed in such cases:
- run `update-rc.d -f lpd remove /dev/null' on remove and purge
Better to chmod -x the lpd file, because that looses less information.
[lpd postinst would have to chmod +x the file, so it's still not
perfect.]
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On May 26, Joey Hess wrote
I don't think wish is the right name. Unless you're familiar with tk (as
opposed to just trying to get it installed), you may not know that the tk
interperter is named wish.
But in that case, it's just infrastructure, so why should you care?
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On May 24, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote
I just ran across this problem as well. I have a PCI bus
with a DPT RAID board and a 3COM ethernet board trying to
share IRQ 11. There were no software options or hardware
jumpers to change the IRQ selection.
To solve the problem, I moved the ethernet
On May 27, Thomas Koenig wrote
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
People will probably have told you this, but the Packages file
was not corrupted, those 1:x.x.xx are critical (these are epochs),
and the problem actually is that the version of dpkg being used is
too old to understand epochs.
Any chance of getting the ethernet drivers listed as supported
in the ethernet howto, but stored at cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov instead
of in the main linux kernel, included in the base debian kernel
distribution?
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On May 23, Christian Hudon wrote
Do they compile as modules? Maybe someone could package them up as kernel
modules in a separate desdis-drivers package, or something like that.
The eepro100.c file had a line in it (grep gcc eepro100.c) which
said how to compile it (given /usr/include/linux for
[Aside: I think I sent a message about ethernet configuration
with a subject line from an X configuration problem. My prior
message on the subject was a bug report about a non-bug. Third
strike and I'm out, but by jove I think I've got it.]
Turns out I've got a buslogic 946C and a 32 bit lance
I'm putting together a couple of debian systems tonight, and I've
a couple problems
(1) floppy installation forces you to re-install all floppies if
there's any problems (e.g. checksum). So far, I've had one bad
base disk 2, two bad base disk 3s, and a bad disk 4. That means
that, for example,
'=?iso-8859-1?Q?Nicol=E1s_Lichtmaier?= wrote:'
So I say: PS1=[\\u] \\h:\\w\\$ =D
On May 21, Chris Fearnley wrote
No, PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ ' !
I guess this will become a flame war. So I'd prefer to leave prompt
alone. Or maybe the boot disks can have a dialog script to
On May 21, Chris Walker wrote
If I could get notification on a bug that I was particularly
concerned with, I guess I'd use it about once a quarter.
[That's about how often I run into bugs of that nature.]
It would probably save me about 8-16 hours per quarter.
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On May 20, Buddha Buck wrote
Even with this, I can't get it to work. I'm running into the same
problem Mr. Hess reported. Using dir: /debian dist: unstable, I have
been able to get hamm, but no combination I've tried has allowed me to
get hamm/non-free or hamm/contrib. I can get the
On May 21, Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote
I'd really appreciate your input on these issues, so that I can go
forward with the Perl package.
Don't let this slow down your work, but: one thing I've been
itching for is a mechanism for CPAN installation to interoperate
with the Debian package
On May 19, Brian C. White wrote
9259: j1 - Unresolved dependency report for j1
A fixed version of j1 is sitting in ~moth on master.debian.org
and has been since last week.
When I uploaded it, Incoming was not writeable, so I uploaded
a copy to my home directory and sent email to
Andy Mortimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There has just been a long list of bugs against packages using `bashisms'
in their scripts, and I can certainly remember this issue coming up
before. But I don't know about anyone else, but I certainly have no idea
what features are available in the
On May 13, David Engel wrote
This problem is not that simple. With the current dpkg, there is no
way to fix this even with a statically linked cp or ln. This is
because dpkg will remove ld-linux.so.1 before any postinst script gets
a chance to repair the damage.
How about putting something
Juergen Menden:
any package which needs to be compiled is of course not
arch-independent. on my system here (sunos, not debian ;-)) at
least the following are partially compiled:
ii dvips5.58f 2TeX DVI-driver for Postscript
ii fort77 1.6 1An f2c
Simon Shapiro:
How many people never compile their kernel and why?
I generally try and use a debian kernel image until I have a specific
reason not to. Then, I generally try to use the debian source until I
have a specific reason not to. Then, I generally try to use one of
Linus's snap shots
The US debian-bugs mirror seems to be fairing worse than normal...
Linkname: Not Found
URL: http://www.cps.cmich.edu/~streeter/debian-bugs/
Owner(s): None
size: 5 lines
mode: normal
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Package: lynx
Version: 2.4.2
Revision: 1
lynx -source always fails.
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Once we decide on a package naming standard, we should tell the
rest of the free software world what it is and encourage the
upstream maintainers to stick to that format.
Tell them without asking for comments? :-) [What was that about
committees?]
I lean towards Bill Mitchell's idea.
Brian White:
(the above is csh code... sorry!)
I've not been following this discussion very closely, but here's a
fairly literal translation of Brian's speedup to sh:
for FILE in `sed -e 's/\(.*\)-\([^-]*\)-\([^.-]*\)\.\([^-]*\)$/\1/\2/\3/\4/'`
do (
set `echo $FILE|tr / ' '`
Since I don't really have anything invested in this debate, I'll
throw in my last two cents and shut up. It seems to me that
changing the very few packages which don't already conform to such
a naming scheme would be much less disruptive than renaming every
package.
Also, a cheap
Is there any point in establishing an init runlevel for undocked
operation - that is, using a laptop away from AC power? Some
laptops are capable of sensing when they go on and off of AC and
could change the run level on their own. I can think of situations
where you would want
Raul Miller:
I think there's a good answer to this question, but I doubt the
above workaround to the current package implementation of cron
will occur to very many people.
Ian Jackson:
How about taking cron out of rc*.d ?
Plausible.
Remember, this is a space-cramped laptop. Here
Simon Shapiro:
And why do we want this brain dead file system (which even M$ does
not use for its own 1980 eras OS's) to boot a Unix O/S with?
Please note that we shouldn't drop a user base just because Microsoft
has stopped supporting them.
More to the point, while DOS is a lousy
Richard Kettlewell:
Actually I think it would be a good thing if we could support
Debian entirely over UMSDOS - being able to run Linux without
having to mess around repartitioning hard discs is going to make a
lot of people a lot more willing to try it.
Unfortunately, UMSDOS isn't
What does AC power have to do with run-parts ??
run-parts is just a utility to run all the scripts in a directory.
I think you should think where else this problem should be solved -
possible the answer is to modify your /etc/crontab.
Yes. On second thought I shouldn't be running
Juhana K Kouhia:
umsdos with windows '95 filesystem might be a problem... With
linux's msdos-fs I were not able to delete a directory; only got
'directory is not empty'-message even the directory were empty.
Are you sure this is because of w95?
You can also get a directory into this
apache-httpd provides httpd (as does cern-httpd) so dpkg won't
install one until the other is removed.
This isn't completely optimal (for the people who want to use apache
but also need a proxy server). Ideally, someone should write up a
mini-howto on how to work around this simplicity
I've sent a similar file to Ian, but I'm not sure if he received it.
Since the bug isn't closed, I'm taking the liberty of resending this
report, with a broader distribution.
Ian Jackson:
Err, boggle. Can you repeat this ? I can't (of course).
I'd like to see the output of
dpkg
Can someone point me at the cannonical source for RPM and its
documentation? [My net connection is a bit flakey at the moment.]
Thanks,
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Package: miscutils
Version: 1.3
Revision: 5
run-parts should probably not do what it normally does, when a laptop
doesn't have AC power. This could be implemented with something along
the lines of:
die helpful message\n
unless system grep 'AC: off line' /proc/apm 2/dev/null;
Perhaps we should adopt a different naming convention for unreleased
versions. E.g. instead of 1.0, call it 0.93+0.07, or 0.9x-unstable.
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OOPS...
On a retry, I find that the cdtool package was only compressed once.
My fingers must have slipped or something.
I hate it when I make a mistake in a bug report.
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Package: metamail
Version: 2.7
Revision: 1
metamail's mime.types file specifies a program called xloadimage. This
program is not on my machine, and the control file for metamail doesn't
suggest any optional packages that might have this program.
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Package: tcl
Version: 7.3
Revision: 4
tcl.h is in /usr/include/tcl -- yet there are no other files for this
directory. Seems to me it would make more sense to have just plain
/usr/include/tcl.h
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Package: tk
Version: 3.6
Revision: 5
tk.h is missing from this development package. This makes in
difficult to build programs which wish to link with tk.
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Bill Mitchell:
I think we need a good way to deal with this general situation
which is simple enough to use not to need guru advice from the dpkg
designer.
I agree -- typically the best way of dealling with this situation is
better documentation.
Of course, where documentation fails (as
Alvar Bray:
I have heard several other people say they have had corrupt
database files - how do they get corrupted? I have never managed to
corrupt mine (but then I, as the package maintainer, wouldnt would
I)
I imagine one technique might be to have the file system get full
during a
Chris Fearnley writes (Bug#1886: cern-httpd 3.0-4: a couple of bugs):
In http-conf, section Users' Public HTML Directories, says that the
default location for users' pages is in public_html, but the script
sets the default to public-html.
Ian Jackson:
I'd be inclined to change the
Bill Mitchell:
In my own packages, I've been trying to provide debianized docs
which change references to /usr/local to just plain /usr where it's
clear from the context that this would be incorrect on a debian
system. I've come to think that even this amount of twiddling the
I (Raul) wrote::
--- linux-1.3.29/fs/msdos/dir.c.distThu Oct 26 18:11:01 1995
+++ linux-1.3.29/fs/msdos/dir.c Thu Oct 26 18:12:34 1995
@@ -86,7 +86,7 @@
filp-f_pos = 0;
}
if (filp-f_pos (sizeof(struct msdos_dir_entry)-1))
- return
This problem definitely occurs in the umsdos file system code.
Further investigation indicates it also occurs in the msdos, nfs, and
smbfs file system code.
I'm reassigning this bug to the image package (or should it be the
source package? modules?).
I'll be submitting a patch in a few hours.
There's a problem with the umsdos file system that prevents scandir(3)
from working right -- it gives ENOENT instead of EOF upon successful
termination. This occurs because readdir returns ENOENT upon reaching
the end of the directory. The msdos file system has the same
problem. Here's a patch:
I had written:
On a newly created (though slightly fudged) debian system, I'm getting
the message:
dpkg: cannot scan updates directory `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/': No such file
or directory
when I try and use dpkg (-i or -C, for instance).
You replied:
Here is the relevant bit of
Ok, so here's how things look to me at present:
dpkg is failing because of an ENOENT error return from scandir(3).
scandir is getting this error value from readdir().
I do not know enough about libc to easily determine whether the
readdir() used by scandir is readdir(2) or readdir(3). However,
One more bit of information: this problem occurs with libc-4.6.27
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Here's an strace of dpkg failing. [Remember, this is on an empty
directory.]
Notice especially the line that reads:
readdir(4, 0x48000) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
I don't have a clue where that 0x48000 argument is coming from, but it
looks like it's corrupt
On a newly created (though slightly fudged) debian system, I'm getting
the message:
dpkg: cannot scan updates directory `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/': No such file or
directory
when I try and use dpkg (-i or -C, for instance).
/var/lib/dpkg/updates/ exists and is empty.
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Package: dpkg
Version: 1.0.5
If I start up dselect, choose select, and hit return without making
any changes, I wind up with the following screen. I am not able to
fathom the purpose of this screen, nor am I particularly interested in
removing these packages from my system. [Of course, it's
This mechanism, while it might be convenient for some people, looks
very noisy for people without mime support.
I'd recommend that there be a new mailing list to support this kind of
traffic.
Also, there'd need to be some kind of convenient mechanism for
developers without intrinsic mime support
Dirk Eddelbuettel:
I don't want to take them away from anyone, not even from Emacs
specialists. I simply want to have the option of installing them
or not.
Well, you could delete them.
$ (cd /usr/lib/emacs/site-lisp/w3; for x in *.elc; do rm `basename $x c`; done)
If I want to read
Ian Jackson:
: Changing package names is usually a bad idea unless there's a good
: reason.
Or, more generally, inventing new interfaces where existing interfaces
will suffice is usually a bad idea unless there's a good reason.
: IMO the real solution is to have a real FTP method for dselect
For what it's worth:
I've been pretty strung out lately (illness, deadlines, lack of
sleep). Please take anything I mailed out yesterday with at least a
grain of salt. [Not that you shouldn't in any event, but especially
for Sep 28 95].
Sorry about that.
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Costa D Rasmussen:
I wish we had setterm. I noticed it was missing and thought I must
be ignorant about how to do without it.
What's the drill here? Do we need to lobby the author, write a clone?
setterm was written by Ted Ts'o. He thought it was such a trivial
program that it didn't
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