Re: Flag images

2010-07-26 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Magnus Holmgren | On onsdagen den 17 februari 2010, Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote: | May be the size must be included into path? | | like | flags/countires/package/16x10/ | flags/countires/package/24x15/ | | Not all flags have the same aspect ratio. Pad them with transparent

Re: Flag images

2010-07-24 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On onsdagen den 17 februari 2010, Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote: MH On the other hand, one application will want 16x10 icons, another one MH 24x15, another one may have some effects applied on the flags to better MH fit the UI design, etc. May be the size must be included into path? like

Re: Flag images - technical solution

2010-02-22 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On 17/02/2010 19:15, Mike Hommey wrote: On the other hand, one application will want 16x10 icons, another one 24x15, another one may have some effects applied on the flags to better fit the UI design, etc. So while applications amy be using flags already, are they really using

Re: Flag images

2010-02-21 Thread Thomas Hochstein
Steve Langasek schrieb: Herbert's resignation mail is here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/05/msg00276.html I've always found it ambiguous what Herbert was referring to when he said this is too much - the use of the Taiwanese flag? The original listing of Taiwan as a country

Re: Flag images

2010-02-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 11:41:17AM +0100, Thomas Hochstein wrote: Steve Langasek schrieb: Herbert's resignation mail is here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/05/msg00276.html I've always found it ambiguous what Herbert was referring to when he said this is too much - the

Re: Flag images

2010-02-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 06:05:41PM +0100, Christian PERRIER wrote: Quoting Dmitry E. Oboukhov (un...@debian.org): PW As an example of the practical effects of flags in the context of PW Debian; a number of years ago we lost our kernel maintainer, partially PW because KDE in Debian included

Re: Flag images

2010-02-18 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 00:11:15 +0100, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: On lun., 2010-02-15 at 12:03 -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: Flags are a poor representation of a particular language, and language selection is better handled using locales and content-negotiation anyway. [There are many

Re: Flag images

2010-02-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: Dmitry E. Oboukhov schrieb: I wish to use my country's flag to refer to my language... Don't. There are many languages not associated with countries or in use in many different countries. [..] Is it really so big problem? Looks like as

Re: Flag images

2010-02-17 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 08:53:56AM +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On lun., 2010-02-15 at 12:03 -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: Flags are a poor representation of a particular language, and language selection is better handled using locales and content-negotiation anyway. [There are many

Re: Flag images

2010-02-17 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Dmitry E. Oboukhov (un...@debian.org): There are many packages in debian contain flag images. I think this whole thread answeredsomething that wasn't asked in your question (is is good or bad to use flags). Flags *are* used, whether we like it or not...or whether this is a good idea

Re: Flag images

2010-02-17 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Dmitry E. Oboukhov (un...@debian.org): PW As an example of the practical effects of flags in the context of PW Debian; a number of years ago we lost our kernel maintainer, partially PW because KDE in Debian included a flag of a country the maintainer (and PW his government)

Re: Flag images

2010-02-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 06:38:00PM +0100, Christian PERRIER wrote: Quoting Dmitry E. Oboukhov (un...@debian.org): There are many packages in debian contain flag images. I think this whole thread answeredsomething that wasn't asked in your question (is is good or bad to use flags

Re: Flag images

2010-02-17 Thread Dmitry E. Oboukhov
MH On the other hand, one application will want 16x10 icons, another one MH 24x15, another one may have some effects applied on the flags to better MH fit the UI design, etc. May be the size must be included into path? like flags/countires/package/16x10/ flags/countires/package/24x15/

Re: Flag images

2010-02-17 Thread Jérémy Lal
On 17/02/2010 19:15, Mike Hommey wrote: On the other hand, one application will want 16x10 icons, another one 24x15, another one may have some effects applied on the flags to better fit the UI design, etc. So while applications amy be using flags already, are they really using the same

Re: Flag images

2010-02-17 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 17:28 +0100, sean finney wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 08:53:56AM +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On lun., 2010-02-15 at 12:03 -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: Flags are a poor representation of a particular language, and language selection is better handled using

Re: Flag images

2010-02-17 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
Thanks to Kibi for notifying some mistakes... On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 00:11 +0100, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: I would love to get some comments from: - people leaving in a country with many official languages. - people leaving in a country which official language is the same to the one spoken

Re: Flag images

2010-02-16 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On lun., 2010-02-15 at 12:03 -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: Flags are a poor representation of a particular language, and language selection is better handled using locales and content-negotiation anyway. [There are many examples where a country speaks many languages, and examples where multiple

Flag images

2010-02-15 Thread Dmitry E. Oboukhov
There are many packages in debian contain flag images. For example: awstats - /usr/share/awstats/icon/flags/ b2evolution - /usr/share/b2evolution/rsc/flags/h10px bygfoot - /usr/share/games/bygfoot/support_files/pixmaps/symbols deluge-common - /usr/share

Re: Flag images

2010-02-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Dmitry E. Oboukhov un...@debian.org wrote: I'm going to add into debian a few new (my) projects which need flag images and so I want to add a package which contains flag set. Are you sure they need flags? Which package and what exactly will the flags represent

Re: Flag images

2010-02-15 Thread Dmitry E. Oboukhov
I'm going to add into debian a few new (my) projects which need flag images and so I want to add a package which contains flag set. PW Are you sure they need flags? Which package and what exactly will the PW flags represent? PW I would personally suggest to avoid adding flags to Debian where

Re: Flag images

2010-02-15 Thread Dmitry E. Oboukhov
I wish to use my country's flag to refer to my language... Don't. There are many languages not associated with countries or in use in many different countries. Also, some flags are considered very political, and are thus very controversial. For example, the government of mainland China

Re: Flag images

2010-02-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 3:14 AM, Dmitry E. Oboukhov un...@debian.org wrote: new version of rtpg (rtpg2) will have language button and geoIP peer's information with country's flag etc. Sounds like a fairly pointless feature to me. Unfortunately that seems to be common in torrent clients these

Re: Flag images

2010-02-15 Thread Dmitry E. Oboukhov
On 03:37 Tue 16 Feb , Paul Wise wrote: PW On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 3:14 AM, Dmitry E. Oboukhov un...@debian.org wrote: new version of rtpg (rtpg2) will have language button and geoIP peer's information with country's flag etc. PW Sounds like a fairly pointless feature to me. Unfortunately

Re: Flag images

2010-02-15 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote: I'm going to add into debian a few new (my) projects which need flag images and so I want to add a package which contains flag set. PW Are you sure they need flags? Which package and what exactly will the PW flags represent? PW I would

Re: Flag images

2010-02-15 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! Dmitry E. Oboukhov schrieb: I wish to use my country's flag to refer to my language... Don't. There are many languages not associated with countries or in use in many different countries. [..] Is it really so big problem? Looks like as non-issue, farfetched. Believe me as someone who

Re: Re: Flag images

2010-02-15 Thread Steve M. Robbins
Paul, I read through the links you provided. There was a cogent argument against using flags to symbolize a language. I would accept that. However, while I understand your argument about losing contributors, I'm not completely convinced that using a flag chosen by country X to represent country

Re: Re: Flag images

2010-02-15 Thread brian m. carlson
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 03:21:23PM -0600, Steve M. Robbins wrote: I read through the links you provided. There was a cogent argument against using flags to symbolize a language. I would accept that. However, while I understand your argument about losing contributors, I'm not completely

Re: Re: Flag images

2010-02-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 5:21 AM, Steve M. Robbins st...@sumost.ca wrote: This vote dates from May 2009.  Do you know what was ultimately decided? I haven't heard anything more recently, I'd suggest contacting Fedora if you want to find out. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise --

Re: Re: Flag images

2010-02-15 Thread Dmitry E. Oboukhov
I read through the links you provided. There was a cogent argument against using flags to symbolize a language. I would accept that. However, while I understand your argument about losing contributors, I'm not completely convinced that using a flag chosen by country X to represent country X