On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 10:31 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Tim Cutts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[snip]
> > To be honest I really don't see what the problem is here. Content
> > which is illegal to distribute in pretty much any significant market
> > should be kept off the first CD, and proba
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Akamai is fully able to turn customers away, and has done so for various reasons (e.g. the customer is a spammer).
That's the key. And we had a posting from Joe Alewin that was most
informative on this topic.
For an example of a non-discriminatory mirror, consider the
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 04:48:24PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>
> A mirror operator in general /does/ make choices about the content
> carried on the mirror. The closest analogy that would already have been
> litigated is a Cable TV system. The U.S. FCC decided that
Tim Cutts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I could be wrong, but Debian is occasionally used and distributed by
> people outside the USA. Making any argument in this thread with
> reference solely to US law is irrelevant to the problems at hand.
I was answering a claim about US law; I was not the o
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 13:12:35 -0800, Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> Oh, and if we do not specify what the nature of what we package,
>> would it be easier to prove we merely carry packages? That would
>> really be nice.
>>
> I just do not see that we have th
On 8 Dec 2004, at 8:53 am, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
The discussion about common carriers is all very interesting, but
irrelevant. There are many protections in American law, and common
carrier status is only one. We are certainly not responsible for
things which are not obscene, and the package
The discussion about common carriers is all very interesting, but
irrelevant. There are many protections in American law, and common
carrier status is only one. We are certainly not responsible for
things which are not obscene, and the package in question is not
obscene (b/c under US law a carto
Quoting Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> very strict regarding anything regarding Nazism.
s/Nazism/Crimes against Mankind (or whatever it should be properly
called in English...original version is "apologie de crimes contre
l'humanité")
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 02:36:35PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 11:41:42 -0800, Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > I don't think we have the slightest chance of proving to any court
> > that Debian is a common carrier, given the several inches of policy
> > manua
On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 16:48 -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> > But that would not include any debian mirror, they would be common carrier?
> >
> A mirror operator in general does make choices about the content
> carried on the mirror. The closest analogy that would alre
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
But that would not include any debian mirror, they would be common carrier?
A mirror operator in general does make choices about the
content carried on the mirror. The closest analogy that would already
have been litigated is a Cable TV system. The U.S. FCC de
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>
>>Oh, and if we do not specify what the nature of what we package, would it be
>>easier to prove we merely carry packages? That would really be nice.
>>
>
> A common carrier carries content from one external point to another as
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Oh, and if we do not specify what the nature of what we package, would it be
easier to prove we merely carry packages? That would really be nice.
A common carrier carries content from one external point to another as
directed by the parties exchanging the content without
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 11:41:42 -0800, Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I don't think we have the slightest chance of proving to any court
> that Debian is a common carrier, given the several inches of policy
> manual that specify the nature of the content, etc.
Say what? Where is t
Andrew Suffield wrote:
Also, in much of the civilised world, once you start doing this you
suddenly acquire a legal responsibility to do it *right*, which you
wouldn't have had if you hadn't tried to do it.
It's more complicated than that. I think what you are talking about is
the fact that a c
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