On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 11:58:35PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> (IME one gets the first matching entry found in /etc/passwd).
Yes, if you use libnss_compat.so. There are, however, a number of caching NSS
modules (e.g., libnss-db, libnss-cache, ...) that do not guarantee the same
ordering of
Anthony DeRobertis writes ("Re: Keysafe dynamic UID"):
> I wonder if just adding a second user with the same uid would be safer
> (so then the packaged scripts can use the new name), and documenting
> that the old one will be removed for the next release?
This is an idea worth
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 04:59:20PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
>
> Also renaming a user is actually trivial:
>
> usermod -l _something Debian-something
>
Unfortunately those names also get into various cron tabs, config files,
etc. Doing that with, e.g., Debian-exim would immediately break
On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 at 05:37:12 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> openarena Debian-openarena
For what it's worth, if I was confident that renaming the user wouldn't
be more disruptive than continuing to use the vendor-specific username,
I'd be happy to call this one _openarena or something;
On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 at 09:37:52 +0300, Dmitry Bogatov wrote:
> > Minimizing the amount of logic in the
> > actual maintainer script (ideally reduced to just running one helper
> > tool with appropriate arguments), and adding a dependency on the
> > helper tool that has the actual logic, would
[2016-10-25 10:04] Simon McVittie
>
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> On Tue, 25 Oct 2016 at 10:31:00 +0300, Dmitry Bogatov wrote:
> > It may be worth to mention my dh-sysuser debhelper here:
> ...
> > * unless another package requires same users, they are
> >
Hi!
On Sun, 2016-10-23 at 18:44:47 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 14:48:44 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> > Right now I'm actually considering going over the archive and sending
> > patches to convert Debian-user and debian-user to _user…
> Don't bother for my packages. I'm not
On Tue, 25 Oct 2016 at 10:31:00 +0300, Dmitry Bogatov wrote:
> It may be worth to mention my dh-sysuser debhelper here:
...
>* unless another package requires same users, they are
> removed on package purge
>* if possible, ensures, that install-purge-install cycle saves
>
[2016-10-24 12:18] "W. Martin Borgert"
>
> part text/plain 354
> Quoting Tollef Fog Heen :
> > I'd prefer if user creation was just done declaratively and then we
> > could scan the archive. If we have a manually-maintained list, it will
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 08:58:49AM +0200, Christian Seiler wrote:
> The requirement to have this for dynamically allocated IDs also
> probably stems from the fact that the users created in postinst scripts
> should not conflict. But wouldn't it be far easier to just create a
> page on the Debian
Quoting Tollef Fog Heen :
I'd prefer if user creation was just done declaratively and then we
could scan the archive. If we have a manually-maintained list, it will
get out of sync with reality pretty quickly.
+1 and +1
It would be nice to have some progress on this:
❦ 24 octobre 2016 09:12 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen :
>> The requirement to have this for dynamically allocated IDs also
>> probably stems from the fact that the users created in postinst scripts
>> should not conflict. But wouldn't it be far easier to just create a
>> page on the
On 10/24/2016 09:12 AM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> I'd prefer if user creation was just done declaratively and then we
> could scan the archive. If we have a manually-maintained list, it will
> get out of sync with reality pretty quickly.
Doing this declaratively would definitely be the ideal
]] Christian Seiler
> On 10/24/2016 12:42 AM, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 02:57:23PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
> >> I am packaging Keysafe,[1] and the binary package keysafe-server needs
> >> to create a new system user with a dynamically allocated UID.
> >>
> >> I am using
On 10/24/2016 12:42 AM, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 02:57:23PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
>> I am packaging Keysafe,[1] and the binary package keysafe-server needs
>> to create a new system user with a dynamically allocated UID.
>>
>> I am using the username 'keysafe'. I do not
On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 02:57:23PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
> I am packaging Keysafe,[1] and the binary package keysafe-server needs
> to create a new system user with a dynamically allocated UID.
>
> I am using the username 'keysafe'. I do not anticipate any collision
> with any other
On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 16:06:30 +0200, Guillem Jover
wrote:
>I might be completely wrong, but the way I read the current situation
>is:
>
> * The (previous) proponents of the Debian- prefixed names don't
>mind much because they are fine delegating that decision to
>
On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 16:15:09 +0200, Michael Biebl
wrote:
>Am 23.10.2016 um 14:48 schrieb Guillem Jover:
>> I think the solution here is pretty clear. The _-prefix is neutral,
>> short and used by other sytems. The Debian-prefix makes names way
>> long (used(?) to cause problems
On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 14:48:44 +0200, Guillem Jover
wrote:
>Right now I'm actually considering going over the archive and sending
>patches to convert Debian-user and debian-user to _user…
Don't bother for my packages. I'm not risiking doing disruptive
changes and being forced
Guillem Jover writes ("Re: Keysafe dynamic UID"):
> I might be completely wrong, but the way I read the current situation
> is:
>
> * The (previous) proponents of the Debian- prefixed names don't
> mind much because they are fine delegating that decision to
>
Hi!
On Sun, 2016-10-23 at 12:32:30 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Oct 2016, Guillem Jover wrote:
> > Right now I'm actually considering going over the archive and sending
> > patches to convert Debian-user and debian-user to _user…
> Make it active only for new installs,
On Sun, 2016-10-23 at 16:06:30 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> I've just sent a patch for adduser to accept _-prefixed system names
> (but not for normal users w/o --force-badname). Then if this gets
> merged, there will be even more compelling reasons to use that. ;)
Sorry, that would be
On Sun, 23 Oct 2016, Guillem Jover wrote:
> Right now I'm actually considering going over the archive and sending
> patches to convert Debian-user and debian-user to _user…
Make it active only for new installs, and you will have bypassed the
most troublesome issue. Just be *extremely* careful to
Am 23.10.2016 um 14:48 schrieb Guillem Jover:
> I think the solution here is pretty clear. The _-prefix is neutral,
> short and used by other sytems. The Debian-prefix makes names way
> long (used(?) to cause problems on display), is a Debianism that
> seems wrong on non-Debian systems, and is
Hi!
On Sun, 2016-10-23 at 15:07:27 +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> ❦ 23 octobre 2016 14:38 +0200, Guillem Jover :
> >> It is better to use either _keysafe or Debian-keysafe to avoid collision
> >> with existing users (like Kevin Eysafe).
> >
> > Please avoid the atrocious
❦ 23 octobre 2016 14:38 +0200, Guillem Jover :
>> It is better to use either _keysafe or Debian-keysafe to avoid collision
>> with existing users (like Kevin Eysafe).
>
> Please avoid the atrocious «Debian-user» Debianism. The «_user» is
> shorter, and used on some of the
On Oct 23, Guillem Jover wrote:
> I think the solution here is pretty clear. The _-prefix is neutral,
> short and used by other sytems. The Debian-prefix makes names way
> long (used(?) to cause problems on display), is a Debianism that
> seems wrong on non-Debian systems,
Hi!
On Sun, 2016-10-23 at 12:54:56 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 00:26:40 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> > Maybe we could fix #429671?
> > I know it's been only 9 years old, but still...
> We either need a policy change or a TC decision for that. The policy
> editor didn't want to
Hi!
On Sun, 2016-10-23 at 00:14:43 +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> ❦ 22 octobre 2016 14:57 -0700, Sean Whitton :
> > I am packaging Keysafe,[1] and the binary package keysafe-server needs
> > to create a new system user with a dynamically allocated UID.
> >
> > I am
On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 00:26:40 +0200, Jakub Wilk
wrote:
>* Vincent Bernat , 2016-10-23, 00:14:
>>>I am using the username 'keysafe'. I do not anticipate any collision with
>>>any other package, but policy says I should e-mail you to confirm that.
>>It is
Hello,
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 12:14:43AM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> It is better to use either _keysafe or Debian-keysafe to avoid collision
> with existing users (like Kevin Eysafe).
Thanks. Will do.
--
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* Vincent Bernat , 2016-10-23, 00:14:
I am using the username 'keysafe'. I do not anticipate any collision with
any other package, but policy says I should e-mail you to confirm that.
It is better to use either _keysafe or Debian-keysafe to avoid collision with
existing
❦ 22 octobre 2016 14:57 -0700, Sean Whitton :
> I am packaging Keysafe,[1] and the binary package keysafe-server needs
> to create a new system user with a dynamically allocated UID.
>
> I am using the username 'keysafe'. I do not anticipate any collision
> with any
Dear base-passwd maintainer,
I am packaging Keysafe,[1] and the binary package keysafe-server needs
to create a new system user with a dynamically allocated UID.
I am using the username 'keysafe'. I do not anticipate any collision
with any other package, but policy says I should e-mail you to
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