Re: Mass bug filing: failure to use invoke-rc.d when required

2006-05-25 Thread Ian Jackson
Brian M. Carlson writes (Re: Mass bug filing: failure to use invoke-rc.d when required): But seriously, if violating Debian Policy has no consequences, then it probably won't be followed. As it stands now, Policy is useless because the worst that can happen is an important bug, which can

Re: Mass bug filing: failure to use invoke-rc.d when required

2006-05-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 15 May 2006, Bastian Blank told this: On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 06:10:52AM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: I propose to file bugs against the packages before the end of this week, and, after a couple of weeks, for packages that haven't been fixed already, start making NMUs (via DELAYED/7, since

Re: Mass bug filing: failure to use invoke-rc.d when required

2006-05-17 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:53:39AM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: ti, 2006-05-16 kello 09:53 +0200, Bas Zoetekouw kirjoitti: Lars wrote: The usage is mendantory (aka a must clause) but the bugs are not RC? This does not fit. It violates policy, but not in a way enumerated on

Re: Mass bug filing: failure to use invoke-rc.d when required

2006-05-17 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Wednesday, May 17, 2006 7:59 AM, Lionel Elie Mamane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:53:39AM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: ti, 2006-05-16 kello 09:53 +0200, Bas Zoetekouw kirjoitti: [...] AFAIK, vilolating policy always waarent a serious bug: [...] This is not what Steve

Re: Mass bug filing: failure to use invoke-rc.d when required

2006-05-17 Thread Brian M. Carlson
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 09:19 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On Wednesday, May 17, 2006 7:59 AM, Lionel Elie Mamane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:53:39AM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: ti, 2006-05-16 kello 09:53 +0200, Bas Zoetekouw kirjoitti: [...] AFAIK, vilolating

Re: Mass bug filing: failure to use invoke-rc.d when required

2006-05-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:37:56PM +, Brian M. Carlson wrote: Then when are we removing the debian-policy package from the archive? But seriously, if violating Debian Policy has no consequences, then it probably won't be followed. As it stands now, Policy is useless because the worst that

Re: Mass bug filing: failure to use invoke-rc.d when required

2006-05-16 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Lars! You wrote: The usage is mendantory (aka a must clause) but the bugs are not RC? This does not fit. It violates policy, but not in a way enumerated on http://release.debian.org/etch_rc_policy.txt, which means that it isn't release critical, unless I've misunderstood something.

Re: Mass bug filing: failure to use invoke-rc.d when required

2006-05-16 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ti, 2006-05-16 kello 09:53 +0200, Bas Zoetekouw kirjoitti: Hi Lars! You wrote: The usage is mendantory (aka a must clause) but the bugs are not RC? This does not fit. It violates policy, but not in a way enumerated on http://release.debian.org/etch_rc_policy.txt, which means

Re: Mass bug filing: failure to use invoke-rc.d when required

2006-05-15 Thread Bastian Blank
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 06:10:52AM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: I propose to file bugs against the packages before the end of this week, and, after a couple of weeks, for packages that haven't been fixed already, start making NMUs (via DELAYED/7, since they're not RC) to get the packages

Re: Mass bug filing: failure to use invoke-rc.d when required

2006-05-15 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 06:10:52AM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: The latest version of the Debian Policy Manual has made the use of invoke-rc.d mandatory, if that command exists. Directly calling an (...) Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a [EMAIL PROTECTED] nessus-core Fixed packages

Re: Mass bug filing: failure to use invoke-rc.d when required

2006-05-15 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2006-05-15 kello 08:55 +0200, Bastian Blank kirjoitti: On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 06:10:52AM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: I propose to file bugs against the packages before the end of this week, and, after a couple of weeks, for packages that haven't been fixed already, start making NMUs

Mass bug filing: failure to use invoke-rc.d when required

2006-05-14 Thread Lars Wirzenius
The latest version of the Debian Policy Manual has made the use of invoke-rc.d mandatory, if that command exists. Directly calling an /etc/init.d script in maintainer scripts is no longer allowed, unless invoke-rc.d doesn't exist on the system. See section 9.3.3.2.[1] [1]