Re: Bug#752075: daemontools-run: Add systemd support

2014-07-04 Thread Gerrit Pape
Hi, I looked into latest policy, but did not find anything about systemd support. I'm surprised that this is now a release critical bug, and the package marked for removal. What's the justification? This package hooks into /etc/inittab, does systemd not automatically manage services from

Re: Bug#752075: daemontools-run: Add systemd support

2014-07-04 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, On 07/04/2014 11:08, Gerrit Pape wrote: I looked into latest policy, but did not find anything about systemd support. I'm surprised that this is now a release critical bug, and the package marked for removal. What's the justification? Ask the submitter? This package hooks into

Re: Bug#752075: daemontools-run: Add systemd support

2014-07-04 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Gerrit Pape I looked into latest policy, but did not find anything about systemd support. I'm surprised that this is now a release critical bug, and the package marked for removal. What's the justification? This package hooks into /etc/inittab, does systemd not automatically manage

Re: Bug#752075: daemontools-run: Add systemd support

2014-07-04 Thread Ondřej Surý
Gerrit, it's up to you to lower the severity of the bug to important (I guess since it will break with default init system). You should have done that instead of ccing debian-devel in the current situation. Please do not abuse debian-devel to questions that could be politely and calmly

Re: Bug#752075: daemontools-run: Add systemd support

2014-07-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Gerrit Pape p...@dbnbgs.smarden.org writes: I looked into latest policy, but did not find anything about systemd support. I'm surprised that this is now a release critical bug, and the package marked for removal. What's the justification? I'm very dubious about this being release-critical.

RFH: Re: Bug#752075: daemontools-run: Add systemd support

2014-07-04 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 03:37:20AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Gerrit Pape p...@dbnbgs.smarden.org writes: I looked into latest policy, but did not find anything about systemd support. I'm surprised that this is now a release critical bug, and the package marked for removal. What's the

Re: Bug#752075: daemontools-run: Add systemd support

2014-07-04 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 12:01:13PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: Could we please not have another systemd thread on -devel@? The last one is not even cold yet... Thanks! On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 12:06:41PM +0200, Ond??ej Surᅵ wrote: Please do not abuse debian-devel to questions that could be

Re: RFH: Re: Bug#752075: daemontools-run: Add systemd support

2014-07-04 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Gerrit Pape: I'm very dubious about this being release-critical. I think it is. The package will not work as expected without the inittab interface. It's rather trivial to write an init script, and/or a systemd unit file, which starts daemontools. Hooking into inittab isn't going to

Re: Bug#752075: daemontools-run: Add systemd support

2014-07-04 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Gerrit Pape: This is about a package I maintain with a RC bug that'll cause it to be removed from the next Debian release. I'm with Debian more than 12 years, I'm pretty sure debian-devel@l.d.o is the right place to ask fellows for advice. I agree. Switching to systemd is a big

Re: RFH: Re: Bug#752075: daemontools-run: Add systemd support

2014-07-04 Thread Michael Biebl
Hi Gerrit, Am 04.07.2014 13:50, schrieb Gerrit Pape: I hereby ask for help to add systemd support to these packages. We (pkg-systemd team) can help you with that. Let's follow up on the pkg-systemd mailing list. In most cases adding a .service file is pretty simple. If it's only about

Re: RFH: Re: Bug#752075: daemontools-run: Add systemd support

2014-07-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Gerrit Pape p...@dbnbgs.smarden.org writes: Important thing to know is: init scripts don't work out for this. The service management concept of daemontools and runit is, amongst other things, a process tree with guaranteed process state, including envrionment. init scripts don't provide

adding systemd support to your package (Re: RFH: Re: Bug#752075: daemontools-run: Add systemd support)

2014-07-04 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 04.07.2014 14:34, schrieb Michael Biebl: Hi Gerrit, Am 04.07.2014 13:50, schrieb Gerrit Pape: I hereby ask for help to add systemd support to these packages. We (pkg-systemd team) can help you with that. Let's follow up on the pkg-systemd mailing list. I want to add, that this is a

Re: adding systemd support to your package (Re: RFH: Re: Bug#752075: daemontools-run: Add systemd support)

2014-07-04 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 04.07.2014 14:38, schrieb Michael Biebl: pkg-systemd-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org mailing list and we will try to help you as best as we can. or join #debian-systemd on OFTC. Regards, Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are

Re: RFH: Re: Bug#752075: daemontools-run: Add systemd support

2014-07-04 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Fri, 2014-07-04 at 14:34, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 04.07.2014 13:50, schrieb Gerrit Pape: I hereby ask for help to add systemd support to these packages. We (pkg-systemd team) can help you with that. Let's follow up on the pkg-systemd mailing list. In most cases adding a .service

Re: RFH: Re: Bug#752075: daemontools-run: Add systemd support

2014-07-04 Thread Michael Biebl
Hi Milan, Am 04.07.2014 15:22, schrieb Milan P. Stanic: And for runit: Thanks for sharing. cat /etc/systemd/system/runit.service [Unit] Description=runit svscan After=syslog.target The After=syslog.target is no longer necessary and not recommended anymore. Lintian will actually complain

Re: Bug#752075: daemontools-run: Add systemd support

2014-07-04 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 12:06:41PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: it's up to you to lower the severity of the bug to important (I guess since it will break with default init system). I'd call it wishlist at most. The package is still perfectly working with sysvinit (including openrc). If you can't

Re: RFH: Re: Bug#752075: daemontools-run: Add systemd support

2014-07-04 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Fri, 2014-07-04 at 15:55, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 04.07.2014 15:22, schrieb Milan P. Stanic: And for runit: Thanks for sharing. cat /etc/systemd/system/runit.service [Unit] Description=runit svscan After=syslog.target The After=syslog.target is no longer necessary and not

Re: Bug#752075: daemontools-run: Add systemd support

2014-07-04 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Adam Borowski On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 12:06:41PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: it's up to you to lower the severity of the bug to important (I guess since it will break with default init system). I'd call it wishlist at most. The package is still perfectly working with sysvinit