Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-12 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014, Gergely Nagy wrote: OpenVPN works just fine with systemd. Its init script does not, but for Yes, but for many installations, its init script is what is required for the VPN to “work”. There is no problem with that, at all. Right, no problem except that remote machines

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-12 Thread Axel Wagner
Can anyone please just read the rest of this thread before continuing this flamewar? The original question was asked, answered and the answer was deemed satisfactory. Best, Axel Wagner -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-12 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Thorsten Glaser: The systemd apologetists If you want a civil dialogue with systemd proponents, please refrain from using loaded words like this one. -- -- Matthias Urlichs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-11 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2014-09-10 20:52, Noel Torres wrote: Yes. Why to install OpenVPN which might not work? aptitude will tell you that they are not coinstallable and the sysadmin will then have the option of switching init system to a non default one, knowing what that means, and having a working OpenVPN

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-11 Thread Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 02:01:00PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: Alberto, I think you might be too deep in sysvinit paradigms how we did (hack) things before. I personally think that mapping the functionality 1:1 is a wrong approach because you will end up in some impossible scenario in the

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-11 Thread Gergely Nagy
Daniel Dickinson deb...@daniel.thecshore.com writes: On 10/09/14 02:52 PM, Noel Torres wrote: Yes. Why to install OpenVPN which might not work? aptitude will tell you that they are not coinstallable and the sysadmin will then have the option of switching init system to a non default

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-11 Thread Mirosław Baran
On 11/09/2014 03:53, Paul Wise wrote: Ultimately, I think this should all be replaced by VPN support in NetworkManager and systemd-networkd. Does NetworkManager support multiple VPN connections right now? (Also, what about persistent VPN setups that are independent from the desktop

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-11 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 11 septembre 2014 18:53 +0100, Mirosław Baran miros...@makabra.org : Ultimately, I think this should all be replaced by VPN support in NetworkManager and systemd-networkd. Does NetworkManager support multiple VPN connections right now? (Also, what about persistent VPN setups that are

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-11 Thread Simon McVittie
On 11/09/14 18:53, Mirosław Baran wrote: Does NetworkManager support multiple VPN connections right now? Yes. (Also, what about persistent VPN setups that are independent from the desktop session?) Yes, there's a flag for automatically connect this VPN when you get lower-level connectivity.

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-10 Thread Ondřej Surý
Alberto, I think you might be too deep in sysvinit paradigms how we did (hack) things before. I personally think that mapping the functionality 1:1 is a wrong approach because you will end up in some impossible scenario in the end anyway. I think the better way how to convert openvpn to systemd

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-10 Thread Noel Torres
On Wednesday, 10 de September de 2014 05:25:44 Andrey Rahmatullin escribió: On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 09:26:28PM +0100, Noel Torres wrote: openvpn package should Conflitcs systemd in order to avoid systemd being installed ITYM to avoid openvpn being installed. No, I mean what I wrote: to

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-10 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 17:47 +0100, Noel Torres wrote: On Wednesday, 10 de September de 2014 05:25:44 Andrey Rahmatullin escribió: On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 09:26:28PM +0100, Noel Torres wrote: openvpn package should Conflitcs systemd in order to avoid systemd being installed ITYM to

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-10 Thread Noel Torres
On Wednesday, 10 de September de 2014 18:55:06 Adam D. Barratt escribió: On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 17:47 +0100, Noel Torres wrote: On Wednesday, 10 de September de 2014 05:25:44 Andrey Rahmatullin escribió: On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 09:26:28PM +0100, Noel Torres wrote: openvpn package should

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-10 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On 10/09/14 02:52 PM, Noel Torres wrote: Yes. Why to install OpenVPN which might not work? aptitude will tell you that they are not coinstallable and the sysadmin will then have the option of switching init system to a non default one, knowing what that means, and having a working OpenVPN

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote: I think the better way how to convert openvpn to systemd would be: to convert all AUTOSTART= VPNs to openvpn@ enabled instances and all other to disabled openvpn@ instances at upgrade time. I guess there might be a need to some more subtle

Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-09 Thread Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta
AltSubject: For those who care about OpenVPN Dear fellow developers, This is a cry for help. I've been trying to support systemd in OpenVPN for some time, but the results are not satisfactory. I'd like to keep the current (SysV) behaviour in systemd but it's becoming quite an annoying task. I'd

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-09 Thread Noel Torres
On Tuesday, 9 de September de 2014 16:51:20 Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta escribió: AltSubject: For those who care about OpenVPN Dear fellow developers, This is a cry for help. I've been trying to support systemd in OpenVPN for some time, but the results are not satisfactory. I'd like to keep

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-09 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Von meinem iPad gesendet Am 09.09.2014 um 22:26 schrieb Noel Torres env...@rolamasao.org: On Tuesday, 9 de September de 2014 16:51:20 Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta escribió: AltSubject: For those who care about OpenVPN Dear fellow developers, This is a cry for help. I've been trying

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-09 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 09:26:28PM +0100, Noel Torres wrote: openvpn package should Conflitcs systemd in order to avoid systemd being installed ITYM to avoid openvpn being installed. -- WBR, wRAR -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Request for help: #757168 gamera: FTBFS on several architectures

2014-09-03 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Hi Daniel, 177 color = size_t(*src) % COLOR_SET_SIZE; sorry if this is trivial, but have you already checked that (src != NULL)? - Fabian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Request for help: #757168 gamera: FTBFS on several architectures

2014-09-03 Thread Daniel Stender
Original Message Subject: Re: Request for help: #757168 gamera: FTBFS on several architectures Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 19:22:00 +0200 From: Daniel Stender deb...@danielstender.com To: Fabian Greffrath fab...@greffrath.com With pleasure! I've test patched this and rebuilded

Request for help: #757168 gamera: FTBFS on several architectures

2014-09-02 Thread Daniel Stender
Control: tags -1 help Hello, I'm stuck with a Gamera assertion fail of tests/test_rle on several architectures. The failure isn't reproducing constantly. I've been in contact with the upstream developer, and we think there is some problem related to color_ccs() [0]. 3.4.1+svn1422 tries

Re: Help request: intel-microcode and old Intel processors

2014-08-29 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: I'd like to know whether the kernel microcode update is working well on some of the older Intel 32-bit processors or not. These computers were sold between years 2000 and 2010. This information will be used to decide the level of

Accepted how-can-i-help 7 (source all) into unstable

2014-08-29 Thread Tomasz Nitecki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 17:19:07 -0700 Source: how-can-i-help Binary: how-can-i-help Architecture: source all Version: 7 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org Changed-By: Tomasz Nitecki t

Re: Help request: intel-microcode and old Intel processors

2014-08-28 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: If you happen to run Debian or Ubuntu on a computer with an old Intel processor (Pentium M, Celeron M, Pentium 4 Mobile, Mobile Celeron, Pentium I’ve got an IBM X40. I can boot Grml off a USB stick, dist-upgrade and run these commands, if

Re: Help request: intel-microcode and old Intel processors

2014-08-28 Thread Andrea Bolognani
to decide the level of microcode update support for these processors on the next non-free release (Jessie). I have a couple of laptops that could probably qualify, but they're both running Wheezy and I can't update them to testing / unstable. Would running the above commands on Wheezy be of any help

Re: Help request: intel-microcode and old Intel processors

2014-08-28 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
. Would running the above commands on Wheezy be of any help to you? Yes, wheezy is fine (as long as it is up-to-date). -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon

Help request: intel-microcode and old Intel processors

2014-08-26 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
I am the maintainer of the intel-microcode and iucode-tool packages, used to update the microcode[1] on Intel system processors (CPU chip). I'd like to know whether the kernel microcode update is working well on some of the older Intel 32-bit processors or not. These computers were sold between

Re: goals for hardening Debian: ideas and help wanted

2014-06-08 Thread Xavier Roche
information, and neither lsof nor fuser -c could help me at this point * I'm using a customized grsec kernel - I first need to confirm that the issue also appears on a vanilla kernel * I'm using wheezy/sid mixed packages, and here again a real vanilla install will be necessary to du further tests

Re: goals for hardening Debian: ideas and help wanted

2014-06-07 Thread Xavier Roche
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 10:57:39AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: I have written a non-exhaustive list of goals for hardening the Debian distribution, the Debian project and computer systems of the Debian project, contributors and users. If you have more ideas, please add them to the wiki page.

Re: goals for hardening Debian: ideas and help wanted

2014-06-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Xavier Roche wrote: Would a read-only root filesystem goal be feasible ? We kind-of already support that; Debian Live is essentially that. What would official support for read-only root look like to you? Option in the installer?

Re: goals for hardening Debian: ideas and help wanted

2014-06-06 Thread intrigeri
lack the resources and/or the interest to take care of such bugs, then they still have two useful options: * ask the AppArmor profiles team (Cc'd) for help to fix the profile, in order to go on shipping it along with the software it's about; that would be my preferred solution, whenever

Bug#748783: ITP: fwts -- firmware test suite PC firmware. It is intended to identify BIOS and ACPI errors and if appropriate it will try to explain the errors and give advice to help workaround or

2014-05-20 Thread Keng-Yu Lin
, Programming Lang: C, Description : FWTS is a firmware test suite that performs sanity checks on Intel/AMD PC firmware. It is intended to identify BIOS and ACPI errors and if appropriate it will try to explain the errors and give advice to help workaround or fix firmware bugs

Accepted doublecmd-help 0.5.5-2 (source all)

2014-05-18 Thread Graham Inggs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 18:12:24 +0200 Source: doublecmd-help Binary: doublecmd-help-en doublecmd-help-ru doublecmd-help-uk Architecture: source all Version: 0.5.5-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Pascal Packaging Team

Re: arm64 update - help wanted

2014-05-17 Thread Ian Campbell
On Fri, 2014-05-16 at 20:44 -0300, Antonio Terceiro wrote: On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 07:43:18AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: On Thu, 2014-05-15 at 22:49 -0300, Antonio Terceiro wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 08:20:53PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: On Thu, 2014-05-15 at 02:10 +0100, Wookey

Re: arm64 update - help wanted

2014-05-17 Thread Antonio Terceiro
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:19:26AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: On Fri, 2014-05-16 at 20:44 -0300, Antonio Terceiro wrote: On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 07:43:18AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: On Thu, 2014-05-15 at 22:49 -0300, Antonio Terceiro wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 08:20:53PM +0100, Ian

Re: arm64 update - help wanted

2014-05-17 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
suggestion, wookey: i'd love to help... but obviously with no hardware that's kinda hard: is there a clear set of instructions somewhere - a wiki page for example - on how to debootstrap an arm64 qemu so that even if it's dead slow it's still possible to help out? https://wiki.debian.org

Re: arm64 update - help wanted

2014-05-17 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 2:10 AM, Wookey woo...@wookware.org wrote: The debian-port arm64 rebootstrap is progressing nicely, and we just passed 4200 source packages built, with another few hundred pending. There are now 2 buildds running. awesome Thus I'd love it if anyone else could help go

Re: arm64 update - help wanted

2014-05-17 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 05:24:38PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: is there a clear set of instructions somewhere - a wiki page for example - on how to debootstrap an arm64 qemu so that even if it's dead slow it's still possible to help out? https://wiki.debian.org/Arm64Qemu

Re: arm64 update - help wanted

2014-05-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 12:48 AM, Adam Borowski wrote: The page is obsolete, since a month ago that code is already in unstable. It's qemu-user only, though, so you can use it to build and run stuff but not to debug bootloaders, the kernel or such. Full aarch64 system emulation is in qemu

Re: arm64 update - help wanted

2014-05-16 Thread Ian Campbell
On Thu, 2014-05-15 at 22:49 -0300, Antonio Terceiro wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 08:20:53PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: On Thu, 2014-05-15 at 02:10 +0100, Wookey wrote: Also if anyone has expertise in language porting we'd like to hear from you. Below is the list of languages we believe

Re: arm64 update - help wanted

2014-05-16 Thread Antonio Terceiro
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 07:43:18AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: On Thu, 2014-05-15 at 22:49 -0300, Antonio Terceiro wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 08:20:53PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: On Thu, 2014-05-15 at 02:10 +0100, Wookey wrote: Also if anyone has expertise in language porting we'd

Re: arm64 update - help wanted

2014-05-15 Thread Ian Campbell
On Thu, 2014-05-15 at 02:10 +0100, Wookey wrote: Also if anyone has expertise in language porting we'd like to hear from you. Below is the list of languages we believe still need porting to arm64: Ruby wasn't on the list, is that under control? Ruby seems to be at the bottom of the build-dep

Re: arm64 update - help wanted

2014-05-15 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
haven't got time right now to wade through all those seeing what went wrong. Thus I'd love it if anyone else could help go through the failures pile and file bugs, or upload old existing ones, or classify them on the wiki. Or if they happen to be your packages then just fix them :-) I sent messages

Re: arm64 update - help wanted

2014-05-15 Thread Sébastien Villemot
Le jeudi 15 mai 2014 à 02:10 +0100, Wookey a écrit : Also if anyone has expertise in language porting we'd like to hear from you. Below is the list of languages we believe still need porting to arm64: Julia Note that currently Julia is only available on i386/amd64 (so no armel/armhf for

Re: arm64 update - help wanted

2014-05-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 02:10:39AM +0100, Wookey wrote: GHCi (ghc is done, but not ghci - is this hard?) This is hard. You need either an LLVM-based port or a native code generator, and in either case I think you need some linker support in GHC. Both of these are serious compiler engineer

Re: arm64 update - help wanted

2014-05-15 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 15.05.2014 03:10, schrieb Wookey: Go (we have gccgo, but not gcgo) this is not arm64 specific. Debian has a serious problem in that the current Go maintainers are focused on gc only, which only supports amd64, i386, armhf, and probably armel. Mono needs porting GCL CLISP need porting

Re: arm64 update - help wanted

2014-05-15 Thread Antonio Terceiro
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 08:20:53PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: On Thu, 2014-05-15 at 02:10 +0100, Wookey wrote: Also if anyone has expertise in language porting we'd like to hear from you. Below is the list of languages we believe still need porting to arm64: Ruby wasn't on the list, is

arm64 update - help wanted

2014-05-14 Thread Wookey
else could help go through the failures pile and file bugs, or upload old existing ones, or classify them on the wiki. Or if they happen to be your packages then just fix them :-) I've put some links on the wiki page https://wiki.debian.org/Arm64Port#Bug_tracking to the ubuntu and fedora bug lists

Re: Gerrit patch review, and gating (was: Call for help from KDE Team)

2014-05-06 Thread David Goodenough
: For quite a while now the KDE team has been severely understaffed. We maintain a lot of packages, with many different kinds of bugs, but we don't have enough people to do all the work that needs to be done. We have tools that help us automate the update to new upstream releases, but that's just

Re: Gerrit patch review, and gating (was: Call for help from KDE Team)

2014-05-05 Thread Thomas Goirand
. We maintain a lot of packages, with many different kinds of bugs, but we don't have enough people to do all the work that needs to be done. We have tools that help us automate the update to new upstream releases, but that's just the tip of the iceberg of our work and so we are writing

Re: make 4.0: archive rebuild resulted in 73 packages broken (help wanted)

2014-05-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, May 01 2014, Paul Smith wrote: On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 10:55 -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Opened bug in Savannah BTS: https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?42249 I pushed a fix for this. See if it helps. I have built a new version into experimental with that patch. Of the

Re: [Pkg-shadow-devel] Help wanted: test new shadow source package (login, passwd, uidmap, etc.)

2014-05-02 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Serge Hallyn (serge.hal...@ubuntu.com): Quoting Christian PERRIER (bubu...@debian.org): Quoting Christian PERRIER (bubu...@debian.org): Hello fellow developers, I would like to request your help in testing the new version of the shadow package (that provides login, passwd

Re: goals for hardening Debian: ideas and help wanted

2014-05-02 Thread Aaron Zauner
such as Cisco ASA/PIX and some Juniper devices). IPsec hat to be revised and is often implemented in a way that defies the standard that has been under heavy criticism by the cryptography community (e.g. https://www.schneier.com/paper-ipsec.html) Bashing on Tor does not help here. Aaron

Re: Call for help from KDE Team

2014-05-02 Thread Maximiliano Curia
people to do all the work that needs to be done. We have tools that help us automate the update to new upstream releases, but that's just the tip of the iceberg of our work and so we are writing to invite more people to get involved in the team and help us get KDE software in Debian into better

Re: Call for help from KDE Team

2014-05-02 Thread Maximiliano Curia
, don't do it because of guilt. We value your contributions and the team is lucky to have you as a member, if you have the time and the energy to chew into more things, please go ahead. We can try to help you overcome your nervousness about the pending tasks. But, remind yourself that the amount

Re: Call for help from KDE Team

2014-05-02 Thread David Goodenough
different kinds of bugs, but we don't have enough people to do all the work that needs to be done. We have tools that help us automate the update to new upstream releases, but that's just the tip of the iceberg of our work and so we are writing to invite more people to get involved

Re: goals for hardening Debian: ideas and help wanted

2014-05-02 Thread Kevin Chadwick
mailing lists because whilst 'apropos' is traditionally the most powerful command on Unix-like systems it's 'modern' replacement 'apropos' on Linux is a tool to help psychopaths learn to control their anger. (Kevin Chadwick

Re: goals for hardening Debian: ideas and help wanted

2014-05-02 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Fri, 02 May 2014 10:55:15 +0200 Aaron Zauner wrote: Bashing on Tor does not help here. The page suggests all devs use Tor to avoid being targetted. I am saying, does it accomplish that and is is best practice. Should they be hackable even if they are targetted or stumbled upon. I find

Re: goals for hardening Debian: ideas and help wanted

2014-05-02 Thread Kevin Chadwick
' is traditionally the most powerful command on Unix-like systems it's 'modern' replacement 'apropos' on Linux is a tool to help psychopaths learn to control their anger. (Kevin Chadwick) ___ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian

Re: [Pkg-shadow-devel] Help wanted: test new shadow source package (login, passwd, uidmap, etc.)

2014-05-02 Thread Serge Hallyn
Quoting Christian PERRIER (bubu...@debian.org): Quoting Serge Hallyn (serge.hal...@ubuntu.com): Quoting Christian PERRIER (bubu...@debian.org): Quoting Christian PERRIER (bubu...@debian.org): Hello fellow developers, I would like to request your help in testing the new version

Re: [Pkg-shadow-devel] Help wanted: test new shadow source package (login, passwd, uidmap, etc.)

2014-05-02 Thread Serge Hallyn
Quoting Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org): On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 04:38:15AM +, Serge Hallyn wrote: Quoting Christian PERRIER (bubu...@debian.org): Quoting Christian PERRIER (bubu...@debian.org): Hello fellow developers, I would like to request your help in testing the new

Re: Help wanted: test new shadow source package (login, passwd, uidmap, etc.)

2014-05-01 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Christian PERRIER (bubu...@debian.org): Hello fellow developers, I would like to request your help in testing the new version of the shadow package (that provides login, passwd and such other important or base packages). I haven't got much feedbackwhich is indeed what I was more

Re: New Cinnamon Maintainer, looking for help

2014-05-01 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Hi Marga, On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 08:13:38PM +0200, Margarita Manterola wrote: There's also nothing stopping you from going to the web interface and checking. Actually, there was. I lacked the time and tools to do so when I posted my emails, which is why I asked rather than checking. I would

Re: make 4.0: archive rebuild resulted in 73 packages broken (help wanted)

2014-05-01 Thread Paul Smith
On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 10:55 -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Wed, Apr 30 2014, Paul Smith wrote: On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 18:19 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: build-stamp: echo $@ build-arch: build-stamp $ make --version | head -n1 GNU Make 4.0 $ make -f detect.mk -qn

Call for help from KDE Team

2014-05-01 Thread Maximiliano Curia
Hi all! For quite a while now the KDE team has been severely understaffed. We maintain a lot of packages, with many different kinds of bugs, but we don't have enough people to do all the work that needs to be done. We have tools that help us automate the update to new upstream releases

Re: Call for help from KDE Team

2014-05-01 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
that needs to be done. We have tools that help us automate the update to new upstream releases, but that's just the tip of the iceberg of our work and so we are writing to invite more people to get involved in the team and help us get KDE software in Debian into better shape. Thank you

Re: goals for hardening Debian: ideas and help wanted

2014-05-01 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 18:33:56 +0200 Aaron Zauner wrote: It adds a lot of complexity for privacy benefit. Integrity is often muddled into security too. As far as I am concerned they can actually counter each other and are seperate entities. No they are not. Integrity should be part of

Re: Call for help from KDE Team

2014-05-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:19 AM, Maximiliano Curia wrote: For quite a while now the KDE team has been severely understaffed. We maintain a lot of packages, with many different kinds of bugs, but we don't have enough people to do all the work that needs to be done. We have tools that help us

Re: Help wanted: test new shadow source package (login, passwd, uidmap, etc.)

2014-05-01 Thread Serge Hallyn
Quoting Christian PERRIER (bubu...@debian.org): Quoting Christian PERRIER (bubu...@debian.org): Hello fellow developers, I would like to request your help in testing the new version of the shadow package (that provides login, passwd and such other important or base packages). I

Re: goals for hardening Debian: ideas and help wanted

2014-05-01 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 11:24:19AM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: previously on this list people contributed: - easy create and run programs from chroot and alternate users Could you detail what you mean by this? It sounds like you want either virtual machines or something like

Re: Help wanted: test new shadow source package (login, passwd, uidmap, etc.)

2014-05-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 04:38:15AM +, Serge Hallyn wrote: Quoting Christian PERRIER (bubu...@debian.org): Quoting Christian PERRIER (bubu...@debian.org): Hello fellow developers, I would like to request your help in testing the new version of the shadow package (that provides

Re: make 4.0: archive rebuild resulted in 73 packages broken (help wanted)

2014-04-30 Thread Stephen Kitt
On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 23:01:58 -0700, Manoj Srivastava sriva...@ieee.org wrote: Stephen Kitt sk...@debian.org mingw-w64 This one is due to missing B-D-I... Regards, Stephen signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: make 4.0: archive rebuild resulted in 73 packages broken (help wanted)

2014-04-30 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 09:53:31PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Manoj Srivastava sriva...@ieee.org writes: On Tue, Apr 29 2014, Felipe Sateler wrote: On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 23:01:58 -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: 3) We state that packages must provide build-arch and build-indep for

Re: make 4.0: archive rebuild resulted in 73 packages broken (help wanted)

2014-04-30 Thread Alastair McKinstry
On 29/04/2014 07:01, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Hi, David Suárez kindly did an archive rebuild with the new version of make in experimental, and the results of the build are at: http://aws-logs.debian.net/ftbfs-logs/results-make4/ The summary: 73 packages have failed,

Re: goals for hardening Debian: ideas and help wanted

2014-04-30 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Tue, 29 Apr 2014, Jakub Wilk wrote: A wide misconception. Chroots are easily implemented and add security ^^^ almost for free (often /dev/log is all that is needed) and so can be used by default without any

Re: make 4.0: archive rebuild resulted in 73 packages broken (help wanted)

2014-04-30 Thread Paul Smith
FWIW, I can't determine what the issue is from this email thread. Please file a bug on Savannah or start a thread with a repro case on the bug-m...@gnu.org mailing list. Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: make 4.0: archive rebuild resulted in 73 packages broken (help wanted)

2014-04-30 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2014-04-29 at 21:53:31 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Manoj Srivastava sriva...@ieee.org writes: I will cut a normal bug on dpkg, and a serious one on make, and make the former block the latter while we figure otu what to do. The options, as I see it are: 1) Do

Re: make 4.0: archive rebuild resulted in 73 packages broken (help wanted)

2014-04-30 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 04:22:37PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: I think we should first understand why the detection is failing with the newer make. I'm taking a look now. Once that's done we might just be able to fix (or workaround) one of: * make * dpkg-buildpackage * affected

Re: make 4.0: archive rebuild resulted in 73 packages broken (help wanted)

2014-04-30 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-04-30 16:39 +0200, Roger Leigh wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 04:22:37PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: I think we should first understand why the detection is failing with the newer make. I'm taking a look now. Once that's done we might just be able to fix (or workaround) one of: *

Re: make 4.0: archive rebuild resulted in 73 packages broken (help wanted)

2014-04-30 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 16:22:37 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: I think we should first understand why the detection is failing with the newer make. I'm taking a look now. Once that's done we might just be able to fix (or workaround) one of: * make * dpkg-buildpackage * affected

Re: goals for hardening Debian: ideas and help wanted

2014-04-30 Thread Aaron Zauner
Kevin Chadwick wrote: I'm confused, what? How does Tor lower security and at the same time, it provides privacy? Just like antivirus scanners bring greater exploitability especially if you are not vulnerable to detectable viruses then so does Tor. What?! I don't even,.. It adds a lot of

Re: make 4.0: archive rebuild resulted in 73 packages broken (help wanted)

2014-04-30 Thread Paul Smith
On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 18:19 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: build-stamp: echo $@ build-arch: build-stamp $ make --version | head -n1 GNU Make 4.0 $ make -f detect.mk -qn build-arch; echo $? 2 This is definitely a bug in GNU make 4.0 in handling -q (note the -n is not relevant: you

Re: make 4.0: archive rebuild resulted in 73 packages broken (help wanted)

2014-04-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Apr 30 2014, Paul Smith wrote: On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 18:19 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: build-stamp: echo $@ build-arch: build-stamp $ make --version | head -n1 GNU Make 4.0 $ make -f detect.mk -qn build-arch; echo $? 2 This is definitely a bug in GNU make 4.0 in

Re: make 4.0: archive rebuild resulted in 73 packages broken (help wanted)

2014-04-30 Thread Paul Smith
On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 10:55 -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Wed, Apr 30 2014, Paul Smith wrote: On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 18:19 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: build-stamp: echo $@ build-arch: build-stamp $ make --version | head -n1 GNU Make 4.0 $ make -f detect.mk -qn

make 4.0: archive rebuild resulted in 73 packages broken (help wanted)

2014-04-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
- compare.list: comparison of normal.res against make4.res - make4.failed: failed results for make4 rebuild - logs-failed-make4: dir with the build logs of make4 rebuild failed packages The DD list for the packages that failed follows: I am requesting help to investigate the failures

Re: goals for hardening Debian: ideas and help wanted

2014-04-29 Thread Guido Günther
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 11:35:26AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Marko Randjelovic wrote: - security patches should be clearly marked as such in every *.patch file That sounds like a good idea, could you add it to the wiki page? It's not always easy to say

Re: make 4.0: archive rebuild resulted in 73 packages broken (help wanted)

2014-04-29 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Montag, den 28.04.2014, 23:01 -0700 schrieb Manoj Srivastava: Debian Haskell Group pkg-haskell-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org haskell-tasty-golden haskell-terminal-progress-bar related to dependencies on the systems locale, it seems. Not related to make. Greetings, Joachim

Re: make 4.0: archive rebuild resulted in 73 packages broken (help wanted)

2014-04-29 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 29/04/14 08:01, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Debian GNOME Maintainers pkg-gnome-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org libgksu (U) make[1]: Entering directory '/«PKGBUILDDIR»' Makefile:733: *** missing separator (did you mean TAB instead of 8 spaces?). Stop. That's a problem in libgksu using

Re: goals for hardening Debian: ideas and help wanted

2014-04-29 Thread Marko Randjelovic
On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 11:35:26 +0800 Paul Wise p...@debian.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Marko Randjelovic wrote: - security patches should be clearly marked as such in every *.patch file That sounds like a good idea, could you add it to the wiki page? I added this:

Re: New Cinnamon Maintainer, looking for help

2014-04-29 Thread Maximiliano Curia
¡Hola Jonathan! El 2014-04-28 a las 16:13 +0100, Jonathan Dowland escribió: The current package is maintained in git already at http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-cinnamon/cinnamon.git. I haven't checked but in an ideal world your repository would be a clone of this, to make eventual

Re: goals for hardening Debian: ideas and help wanted

2014-04-29 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Marko Randjelovic wrote: Cencerely, I never heard about Docker before, I didn't mean about VMs and I meant about chrooting. I was thinking about some kind of wizard: - create a chroot if doesn't already exist - create a launcher for your DE - create a shell

Re: goals for hardening Debian: ideas and help wanted

2014-04-29 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Jacob Appelbaum ja...@appelbaum.net, 2014-04-29, 00:20: On 4/25/14, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Tor provides privacy and more likely lowers security so which threat against contributors or contributor actions is the Tor policy aimed to protect? I'm confused, what? How does

Re: goals for hardening Debian: ideas and help wanted

2014-04-29 Thread Kevin Chadwick
aggressively on LINUX mailing lists because whilst 'apropos' is traditionally the most powerful command on Unix-like systems it's 'modern' replacement 'apropos' on Linux is a tool to help psychopaths learn to control their anger. (Kevin Chadwick

Re: goals for hardening Debian: ideas and help wanted

2014-04-29 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 00:20:05 + Jacob Appelbaum wrote: Tor provides privacy and more likely lowers security so which threat against contributors or contributor actions is the Tor policy aimed to protect? I'm confused, what? How does Tor lower security and at the same time, it

Re: New Cinnamon Maintainer, looking for help

2014-04-29 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:46:25AM +0200, Maximiliano Curia wrote: ¡Hola Jonathan! El 2014-04-28 a las 16:13 +0100, Jonathan Dowland escribió: The current package is maintained in git already at http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-cinnamon/cinnamon.git. I haven't checked but in an

Re: goals for hardening Debian: ideas and help wanted

2014-04-29 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Marko Randjelovic markoran at eunet.rs writes: On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 11:35:26 +0800 Paul Wise pabs at debian.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Marko Randjelovic wrote: - security patches should be clearly marked as such in every *.patch file That sounds like a good

Re: goals for hardening Debian: ideas and help wanted

2014-04-29 Thread Thorsten Glaser
. Does Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! (To casual observers: the entire paragraph is very wrong.) Yes, chroots help isolating things, but, just like systrace(4), they are far from being inescapable. bye, //mirabilos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: make 4.0: archive rebuild resulted in 73 packages broken (help wanted)

2014-04-29 Thread Kari Pahula
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 11:01:58PM -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Kari Pahula k...@debian.org gecode That one failed due to missing Build-Depends-Indep and the build attempted to call debian/rules build-indep. I don't think that make 4.0 had anything to do with that failure. -- To

Re: goals for hardening Debian: ideas and help wanted

2014-04-29 Thread Kevin Chadwick
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