Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
...
Quite simply: This type of thing can not be handled before unpacking, so
it isn't. Debconf allows package to ask questions in their postinst,
this is just *strongly* discouraged. See the realplayer installer for a
package that
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Right. I just do nt see these invariants being very useful. I
would much rather have a mk-realplayer package that helps me create a
realplayer-blah.deb; and the invariants are then natural and not
artificially imposed.
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Right. I just do nt see these invariants being very useful. I
would much rather have a mk-realplayer package that helps me create a
realplayer-blah.deb; and the invariants are then natural and not
artificially imposed. When that realplayer.deb is installed,
Joey Hess wrote:
If, however, you make it difficult to ensure that a machine tracking
stable is not running the current version of realplayer, expect me to
Er, make that unstable.
--
see shy jo
Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Joey Well I for one find being able to make sure I am upgraded to the current
Joey version is very useful, especially given the historical buginess of
Joey realplayer.
Good point. If a location for the free download can be easily
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Joey If, however, you make it difficult to ensure that a machine tracking
Joey stable is not running the current version of realplayer, expect me to
Joey send you bug reports.
I see. Well, I guess, given this, I am not going to take over
your package. I'll
On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 01:40:52AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Sorry. The whole idea of my realplayer package is to be a
lower hassle package; it won't periodically bother you. Since you are
threatening the next maintainer with bug reports unless they follow
On Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 07:19:09AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
If you don't want to download realplayer right now, why are you
installing the package?
E.g., you might have a slow network connection and want to deal with
the download later. (So you can finish installing everything else
without
On 16-Aug-00, 02:11 (CDT), Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Belive it or not, I know how to safely manage temp files and protect
sensitive information with unix permissions.
I know you do, Joey, but my concern is that since the permission
violation occurs in the backend, when the backend
Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Joey The package is intended to enforce two invarients:
Joey 1) If it is installed, realplayer is installed.
Joey 2) If it is installed and current, the current version of realplayer is
Joeyinstalled.
Right. I just do nt see these
Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Joey I read your entire message and could not find any examples
Joey of things that debconf cannot handle correctly, except of
Joey course for conffile change prompting, which it was never
Joey designed to do.
I think something needs
On Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 08:26:50PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
Anthony Towns wrote:
Basically, I'd like to be able to insist that I'm *never* asked a question
as part of a postinst. I'd rather the postinst fail (and I'd rather Apt/Dpkg
just get on with installing everything else, although it
Anthony == Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes:
Anthony To clarify a little: I want to be able to answer the
Anthony questions up front, do the install and have it work. If I've
This is not somethign anyone can argue with.
Anthony made a mistake (like not put a file where I
Brian May wrote:
Steve == Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Steve Which reminds me, what sort of security is enabled in
Steve debconf? Can any user read the values from the database, or
Steve is it limited to root?
Not sure about this (on my system only root can read
Brian May wrote:
Just curious, why does realplayer have to do it in the postinst
script?
Actually, I was misremembering -- it used to do that but I removed it.
As another example though, look at heimdal-kdc, which needs to ask for
the password, which must be kept as secure as possible.
I
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Actually, this is a particular irritant. Why does it have to
be done in the postinst? Why can't I have /usr/sbin/inst-realplayer?
So I can download and install at my leaisure, and I do not have to
reinstall realplayer installer to get a new copy? Or have the
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
If there is an alternate mechanism in place it would be time
to make it policy. But debconf is not required yet, and it may not
fit all potential cases anyway (more on it below).
I read your entire message and could not find any examples of things
that debconf
Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Joey If you have some specific complaints with debconf's design, please post
Joey them, but I'm rather confused about what you're talking about right now,
Joey especially since your whole message was very non-specfic and I often
Joey couldn't tell
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I do apologize. I was not talkgin about debconf, since I am
not very knowledgeable about it (I have not been keeping up with it,
unfortunately). I do intend a flag day soon to convert all my
packages over.
No problem.
Given my ignorance of things
Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Joey Quite simply: This type of thing can not be handled before
Joey unpacking, so it isn't. Debconf allows package to ask
Joey questions in their postinst, this is just *strongly*
Joey discouraged. See the realplayer installer for a
Brian May writes:
Just curious, why does realplayer have to do it in the postinst
script?
Binaries need to be downloaded from Real and we can't redistribute
them. The user also has to fill out 'personal information' to be able
to access the required files.
--
There is no TRUTH. There is no
On Tue 15 Aug 2000, Decklin Foster wrote:
Brian May writes:
Just curious, why does realplayer have to do it in the postinst
script?
Binaries need to be downloaded from Real and we can't redistribute
them. The user also has to fill out 'personal information' to be able
to access the
On 15-Aug-00, 02:54 (CDT), Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As another example though, look at heimdal-kdc, which needs to ask for
the password, which must be kept as secure as possible.
Which reminds me, what sort of security is enabled in debconf? Can any
user read the values from the
Decklin == Decklin Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Decklin Brian May writes:
Just curious, why does realplayer have to do it in the postinst
script?
Decklin Binaries need to be downloaded from Real and we can't redistribute
Decklin them. The user also has to fill out 'personal
Manoj Srivastava writes:
Actually, this is a particular irritant. Why does it have to
be done in the postinst? Why can't I have /usr/sbin/inst-realplayer?
So I can download and install at my leaisure, and I do not have to
reinstall realplayer installer to get a new copy?
That's not
Steve == Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Steve Which reminds me, what sort of security is enabled in
Steve debconf? Can any user read the values from the database, or
Steve is it limited to root?
Not sure about this (on my system only root can read /var/lib/debconf),
On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 11:38:28PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
==
- Question depends on test on fie system
/ Question important (IMHO)
|/ --- Depends on previous answer
||/
Anthony Towns wrote:
X...Y1) Ask to remove /System.map files
.X Y2) ask to prepare a boot floppy
XXX.Y3) ask which floppy drive to use
.XX.?4) do I need to format the floppy?
.XXXN5) Insert floppy, hit return
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