Achat raspberry en france

2012-08-19 Thread grave
Bonjour, Tout d'abord, j'espère n'être pas trop hors sujet en postant sur cette liste. Je souhaite acheter un raspberry pi en vu de réaliser divers développements (packaging, tests...) et j'aimerais savoir si quelqu'un sur la liste s'était porté acquéreur de ce type de matériel via un

Re: Achat raspberry en france

2012-08-19 Thread grave
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 18:55:23 +0200, Olivier Lange wrote: Salut, Farnell le vends. J'en ai reçu un, et j'ai ai 2 en commandes depuis quelques jours. Merci pour les infos Olivier. Combien de délai de livraison, si ce n'est pas indiscret :) ? xavier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Achat raspberry en france

2012-08-19 Thread François Bottin
On 08/19/2012 06:59 PM, Olivier Lange wrote: Le 19 août 2012 18:58, gravegr...@ipno.in2p3.fr a écrit : On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 18:55:23 +0200, Olivier Lange wrote: Salut, Farnell le vends. J'en ai reçu un, et j'ai ai 2 en commandes depuis quelques jours. Merci pour les infos Olivier. Combien

Re: RFC: terminate init script when service is ready

2012-08-19 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 18:44:10 +0200, Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org wrote: On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 06:31:08PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 13:10:34 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh Anything that uses IPv6 and cannot deal with dynamic changes on the host addresses is critically

Re: RFC: terminate init script when service is ready

2012-08-19 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 22:43:15 +0200, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote: Non-static addresses on a web server are not a major use case. IPv6 people say renumbering is easy, which is only the case if SLAAC is used and DNS doesn't matter or is dynamically used. But still, I agree that we should

Re: Misc Developer News (#30)

2012-08-19 Thread Vincent Danjean
Le 19/08/2012 01:17, Sandro Tosi a écrit : On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Vincent Danjean vdanjean...@free.fr wrote: Hi, Le 18/08/2012 12:47, Paul Wise a écrit : Control Commands at sub...@bugs.debian.org time --- You can now use control

Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host

2012-08-19 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 19:47:43 +0200, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote: On Aug 18, Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de wrote: Because Debian prides itself in being Universal regarding ports and architectures. Does it? Who said so? We. In the same way you say we when you claim to be talking

Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host

2012-08-19 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 02:14:22 +0800, Aron Xu happyaron...@gmail.com wrote: For yourself, they might be toy ports, but please don't speak on behalf of others from time to time when nobody authorized you to do so. I'm not using those ports everyday but I respect their passion and efforts. Amen. I

Re: Enabling uupdate to simply remove files from upstream source

2012-08-19 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Andreas Tille Hi, trying to summarise suggested changes for the proposal: 1. The new field Files-Excluded in debian/copyright contains a space separated list of regular expressions. Why regexes rather than globs, which is used elsewhere in the file? Also, your example uses

Re: RFC: terminate init script when service is ready

2012-08-19 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 09:12:54AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 22:43:15 +0200, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote: Non-static addresses on a web server are not a major use case. IPv6 people say renumbering is easy, which is only the case if SLAAC is used and DNS doesn't matter

Re: RFC: terminate init script when service is ready

2012-08-19 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 19, Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de wrote: IPv6 people say renumbering is easy, which is only the case if SLAAC This is between wishful thinking and an urban legend, so people who actually know about IPv6 have not been saying this much in the last years. -- ciao, Marco

Re: RFC: terminate init script when service is ready

2012-08-19 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 09:12:00AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 18:44:10 +0200, Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org wrote: Not sure about radvd, but it needs more than existing interfaces? It chokes when the Interface changes after it was started, causing very hard to debug

Re: Misc Developer News (#30)

2012-08-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Vincent Danjean wrote: Does this mean that it will be possible to improve reportbug so that it will be possible to automaticcaly subscribe a bug when reporting it? Anyone already working on it? Subscribing to bugs does not use the control bot, so I'm not

Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host

2012-08-19 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 12942 March 1977, Marco d'Itri wrote: Because Debian prides itself in being Universal regarding ports and architectures. Does it? Who said so? But even if this were true, it does not automatically justify dumbing down the OS which people in the real world use for the sake of toy ports.

Re: Enabling uupdate to simply remove files from upstream source (Was: Minified javascript files)

2012-08-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 12-08-19 at 08:32am, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:44:44AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit : On 12-08-18 at 10:19pm, Andreas Tille wrote: 1. The new field Files-Excluded in debian/copyright contains a space separated list of regular expressions. The

Re: Enabling uupdate to simply remove files from upstream source

2012-08-19 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
gregor herrmann gre...@debian.org writes: On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:08:39 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: my suggestion was just to settle with a common and simple solution. This should be pretty simple to implement (I'd volunteer to do this but wanted to seek for comments before filing a bug report

Re: Enabling uupdate to simply remove files from upstream source

2012-08-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 11:41:24PM +0200, gregor herrmann wrote: 2. There was one vote from Gregor Hermann to use the --repack option of uscan. I personally admit that I do not fully agree with Gregor that this means changing the semantics of an existing option. We are just

Re: RFC: terminate init script when service is ready

2012-08-19 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:29:49 +0200, Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 09:12:00AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 18:44:10 +0200, Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org wrote: Not sure about radvd, but it needs more than existing interfaces? It chokes when the

Re: Enabling uupdate to simply remove files from upstream source (Was: Minified javascript files)

2012-08-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:44:44AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On 12-08-18 at 10:19pm, Andreas Tille wrote: 1. The new field Files-Excluded in debian/copyright contains a space separated list of regular expressions. The deletion process will loop over every expression

Re: Enabling uupdate to simply remove files from upstream source

2012-08-19 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:55:37AM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: Yup, that would be nice. But I don't think it belongs into uupdate but in uscan. Please keep it usable for packages that do not use uscan to get the upstream tarball. I have some packages where I generate the upstream

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-19 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org (19/08/2012): This will interrupt upgrade of servers using php5-cgi, but to avoid surprises, the rough consensus in #674089 is also to document the same information in the release notes. I guess we could consider that for a very specific, low-popcon package.

DebConf12 Debian mobile BoF notes

2012-08-19 Thread Paul Wise
Hi all, During DebConf12 we had a BoF discussing Debian mobile stuff: http://penta.debconf.org/dc12_schedule/events/947.en.html Thanks to the DebConf video team, the session was recorded: http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2012/debconf12/high/947_Debian_mobile_BoF.ogv

Bug#685286: ITP: pyadb -- Python module to interact with the ADB tool

2012-08-19 Thread Chema Garcia
Package: pyadb Severity: wishlist Package name: pyadb Version: 0.1.1 Upstream Author: Chema Garcia ch...@safetybits.net URL: https://github.com/sch3m4/pyadb/ License: BSD Revised Description: Python module to interact with the ADB tool -- System Information: Debian Release: wheezy/sid APT

Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host

2012-08-19 Thread Uoti Urpala
Marc Haber wrote: Amen. I find it derogatory towards the people spending months of their private time to make exotic ports work to call their work toy ports. There are people who use their time doing things like hopping across a continent on one foot. That is a lot of work, but it's not

Re: RFC: terminate init script when service is ready

2012-08-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 18 Aug 2012, Marco d'Itri wrote: But still, I agree that we should have a better way to signal to user space when an interface is ready. Not just for IPv6, but also more We need better userspace glue, then. Because the netlink interface to the kernel network core and IP stack has

Re: Minified javascript files

2012-08-19 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Vincent Bernat ber...@debian.org [120818 21:18]: The difference is that we need to bug upstream about a file that we won't even use. There is no real bug (not even a licensing issue). They are distributing files without source, so everyone else can either not just easily modify it or verify

Re: RFC: terminate init script when service is ready

2012-08-19 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 19, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org wrote: But still, I agree that we should have a better way to signal to user space when an interface is ready. Not just for IPv6, but also more We need better userspace glue, then. Because the netlink interface to the kernel network

Re: Minified javascript files

2012-08-19 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 19 août 2012 15:11 CEST, Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org : The difference is that we need to bug upstream about a file that we won't even use. There is no real bug (not even a licensing issue). They are distributing files without source, so everyone else can either not just easily

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 12-08-19 at 11:17am, Charles Plessy wrote: - PHP scripts can be executed by Apache httpd through libapache2-mod-php5 or php5-cgi. Debian recommends libapache2-mod-php5, but there are still thousands of installations wich report the use of php5-cgi according to the Popularity

Re: Request for testing pre-release of Systemd to SysVinit converter

2012-08-19 Thread akhil vij
Hello Michael, Yeah, Mentors and I had this discussion earlier. Each approach had their pros and cons resulting in too much disambiguation at that point. So, we decided to focus only on getting the converter right. I realize that the script's place in the Debian packaging overflow is still

Re: RFC: terminate init script when service is ready

2012-08-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Salvo Tomaselli's message of 2012-08-05 15:35:09 -0700: Hello, since services might depend on other services at boot, they must be sorted. But after doing a service foo start, and waiting for its termination, we don't know if the service has started or not, maybe the process

Re: Misc Developer News (#30)

2012-08-19 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012, Vincent Danjean wrote: Le 18/08/2012 12:47, Paul Wise a écrit : Control Commands at sub...@bugs.debian.org time --- You can now use control commands at sub...@bugs.debian.org time in the pseudo-headers. Does this

Bug#685316: ITP: molds -- semi-empirical electronic structure and molecular dynamics

2012-08-19 Thread Michael Banck
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: debichem-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org * Package name: molds Version : no release yet Upstream Author : Mikiya Fujii * URL : http://en.sourceforge.jp/projects/molds/ * License : GPLv3+ Programming Lang: C++

can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-08-19 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Hey. I hope this won't become too much of a rant, but IMHO we long ago crossed the point where something (well actually many things) would have needed to be seriously done. My grandparents always warned me about UNIX programs written in capital letters ;-). Seriously... I have nothing against a

Re: Enabling uupdate to simply remove files from upstream source

2012-08-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Ansgar Burchardt ans...@debian.org writes: Please keep it usable for packages that do not use uscan to get the upstream tarball. I have some packages where I generate the upstream tarball from a VCS repository, but have to exclude some files. It would be nice to use the tool for such cases

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes: In summary: - PHP scripts can be executed by Apache httpd through libapache2-mod-php5 or php5-cgi. Debian recommends libapache2-mod-php5, but there are still thousands of installations wich report the use of php5-cgi according to the

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-08-19 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 19, Christoph Anton Mitterer cales...@scientia.net wrote: Where do I see the main problems of NM? NM, as a design goal, is not supposed to be able to manage every possible configuration. I see no reason do /discourage/ it use: it has important use cases where it works well, the problem

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-08-19 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 07:26:46PM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: Until recently all that wasn't a big problem, because one was easily able to simply not install NM, but nowadays more and more packages start to depend on it (of those I know, most notably gnome-core) or at least use it's

Re: Minified javascript files

2012-08-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Vincent Bernat ber...@debian.org writes: ❦ 19 août 2012 15:11 CEST, Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org : They are distributing files without source, so everyone else can either not just easily modify it or verify if it really does what it is supposed to do. This is definitely a shortcoming in

Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host

2012-08-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de writes: Amen. I find it derogatory towards the people spending months of their private time to make exotic ports work to call their work toy ports. I am seriously thinking about a GR explicitly endorsing the work on more exotic ports to stop this

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-19 Thread Roger Lynn
On 19/08/12 03:20, Charles Plessy wrote: - PHP scripts can be executed by Apache httpd through libapache2-mod-php5 or php5-cgi. Debian recommends libapache2-mod-php5, but there are still thousands of installations wich report the use of php5-cgi according to the Popularity Contest

Re: Minified javascript files

2012-08-19 Thread Simon Josefsson
Vincent Bernat ber...@debian.org writes: ❦ 19 août 2012 15:11 CEST, Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org : The difference is that we need to bug upstream about a file that we won't even use. There is no real bug (not even a licensing issue). They are distributing files without source, so

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-08-19 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2012-08-19 at 19:26 +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: [...] 1) In parts it has some security issues. - At least the default setting seems to be that any user can connect to any network. [...] According to README.Debian: To allow users to connect to the NetworkManager daemon they

Re: Minified javascript files

2012-08-19 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Simon Josefsson si...@josefsson.org wrote: As for verification, having the source next to the minified version does not guarantee anything about the minified version, all the more that we don't have currently in Debian Wheezy a reliable minifier. That seems

Re: Minified javascript files

2012-08-19 Thread Simon Josefsson
Pau Garcia i Quiles pgqui...@elpauer.org writes: On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Simon Josefsson si...@josefsson.org wrote: As for verification, having the source next to the minified version does not guarantee anything about the minified version, all the more that we don't have currently

Re: Allowing multi-arch specs in depends line?

2012-08-19 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On 19/08/2012 09:05, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 03:09:46PM +0200, Steffen Möller wrote: I prepared a package for BOINC (http://boinc.berkeley.edu) with all the dependencies for owners of CUDA-savvy NVidia cards to help installing the libraries. Since many scientific

Re: Minified javascript files

2012-08-19 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 19 août 2012 20:10 CEST, Simon Josefsson si...@josefsson.org : They are distributing files without source, so everyone else can either not just easily modify it or verify if it really does what it is supposed to do. This is definitely a shortcoming in what upstream ships and really

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-08-19 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 19 août 2012 20:32 CEST, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk : 1) In parts it has some security issues. - At least the default setting seems to be that any user can connect to any network. [...] According to README.Debian: To allow users to connect to the NetworkManager daemon they have

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-19 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 19, Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote: - PHP scripts can be executed by Apache httpd through libapache2-mod-php5 or php5-cgi. Debian recommends libapache2-mod-php5, but there are still This is another issue which concerns me, since mod_php forces the use of preforking apache,

Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host

2012-08-19 Thread Michael Biebl
On 19.08.2012 19:30, Russ Allbery wrote: Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de writes: Amen. I find it derogatory towards the people spending months of their private time to make exotic ports work to call their work toy ports. I am seriously thinking about a GR explicitly endorsing the

Re: Minified javascript files

2012-08-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 12-08-19 at 08:10pm, Simon Josefsson wrote: Vincent Bernat ber...@debian.org writes: ❦ 19 août 2012 15:11 CEST, Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org : The difference is that we need to bug upstream about a file that we won't even use. There is no real bug (not even a licensing issue).

Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host

2012-08-19 Thread Gergely Nagy
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org writes: If those ports need a GR to silence any criticsm regarding those ports, then something is going seriously wrong. I've yet to see said criticism. -- |8] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-08-19 Thread Andrew Shadura
Hello, On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:32:03 +0100 Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote: 3) ifupdown integration is really bad ifupdown is really a good framework, it offers hooks and and is properly integrated in many packages. ifupdown *was* a good framework, but Linux moved on. ifupdown

Re: Enabling uupdate to simply remove files from upstream source

2012-08-19 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 12:19:57 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: Suffix should be configurable. Ack. I use ~dfsg by default, ~dfsg1 and bumping numbers for multiple repackagings, and only +dfsg when the repackaging happens after a non-repackaged version was released into Debian. Reason

Re: Enabling uupdate to simply remove files from upstream source

2012-08-19 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 12:09:59 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: Sure, I guess I will get used to adding --$option instead of just using plain uscan, if needed :) When reading this I wonder whether we actually will need any command line option at all? Shouldn't it rather be the other way around

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-19 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Sun, 2012-08-19 at 12:43 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: I guess we could consider that for a very specific, low-popcon package. But knowingly interrupting upgrades for a well-known problem, on a very high number of systems? I'm not sure that's appropriate. Quite the opposite, actually. I

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-19 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Sun, 2012-08-19 at 17:26 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: FWiW, out of the ~7'500 popcon hits of regular use of php5-cgi, ~900 also regularly uses suphp, so might be unaffected by this issue. mights are not something we should build our security upon. And apart from that... I had a very short

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-19 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Sun, 2012-08-19 at 18:16 +0100, Roger Lynn wrote: How does this affect other web servers? There was someone mentioning that lighthtttp may use /etc/mime.types, too. So yes, basically anything (though I guess security critical things should only be found at webservers, as they typically serve

Re: Enabling uupdate to simply remove files from upstream source (Was: Minified javascript files)

2012-08-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 12-08-18 at 12:36am, Andreas Tille wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:03:27PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: I admit I'm not very experienced with Perl and reading RFC822 files - so if somebody would help implementing this I'd be glad. grep-dctrl -FFormat -n -sFiles-Excluded \

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-19 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Hey Russ, Marco. On Sun, 2012-08-19 at 22:32 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: thousands of installations wich report the use of php5-cgi according to the Popularity Contest statistics. Yes, because sensible people who need PHP will try to use it as CGI/FastCGI (or FPM, finally in

Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host

2012-08-19 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:13:23PM +0200, Gergely Nagy a écrit : Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org writes: If those ports need a GR to silence any criticsm regarding those ports, then something is going seriously wrong. I've yet to see said criticism. In the absense of regression tests, we

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-19 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Sun, 2012-08-19 at 22:32 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: I am also concerned that a *simple* solution to restore the old behaviour in a secure way is not provided: maybe php5-cgi should install a sensible default configuration in /etc/apache2/conf.d/ ? Again, I don't think this saves us from

Re: RFC: terminate init script when service is ready

2012-08-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Aug 19, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org wrote: But still, I agree that we should have a better way to signal to user space when an interface is ready. Not just for IPv6, but also more We need better userspace glue, then. Because

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-08-19 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Hi Stephan. On Sun, 2012-08-19 at 19:35 +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote: I don’t use NM, but I have it installed (you mentioned the dependencies). I have a „exit 0” in the init script, so NM won’t be started. Yeah,... or just disable it but then what's the point on it?! I mean the basic idea

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-08-19 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Hi Marco. On Sun, 2012-08-19 at 19:41 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: NM, as a design goal, is not supposed to be able to manage every possible configuration. Well but then it shouldn't be kind of a default package. And yes, I know, strictly speaking it's neither required nor essential. But as I

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-08-19 Thread Paul Wise
Please take over the netconf project and start implementing that design in C, that would be much more productive than any new thread about the current and previous deficiencies of NetworkManager. http://web.archive.org/web/20100109113017/http://netconf.alioth.debian.org/ -- bye, pabs

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-08-19 Thread Chris Knadle
On Sunday, August 19, 2012 13:26:46, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: Hey. I hope this won't become too much of a rant, but IMHO we long ago crossed the point where something (well actually many things) would have needed to be seriously done. My grandparents always warned me about UNIX

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-08-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Chris Knadle wrote: require network access. As a for instance a common suggestion for keeping GPG keys up to date is to set a 'gpg --referesh-keys' operation as a cron I prefer this option for keeping my GPG keyring up to date:

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-08-19 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Hey Ben. On Sun, 2012-08-19 at 19:32 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: To allow users to connect to the NetworkManager daemon they have to be in the group netdev. Like Vincent already pointed out, CK allows it, too. In principle nothing speaks generally against either of the two, but I guess both

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-08-19 Thread Michael Biebl
On 20.08.2012 02:07, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: But when I e.g. put WPA credentials into /e/n/interfaces and made the file specifically readable by root and user foo only, then it still exports that connection to all other users (e.g. being logged on locally; at least per default). That

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-08-19 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Dear Michael. On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 02:13 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: That is simply not true. NM doesn't by default export any WPA secrets in /e/n/i to any user. I'm not sure if you don't know any better or if you just want to spread FUD. I specifcally wrote export _connection_ and not

Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Aug 19, Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote: - PHP scripts can be executed by Apache httpd through libapache2-mod-php5 or php5-cgi. Debian recommends libapache2-mod-php5, but there are still This is another issue which concerns me, since

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-08-19 Thread Michael Biebl
On 20.08.2012 02:18, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 02:13 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: That is simply not true. NM doesn't by default export any WPA secrets in /e/n/i to any user. I'm not sure if you don't know any better or if you just want to spread FUD. I specifcally

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-08-19 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 02:41 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: Apparently it is still not clear to you: NM by *default* does not export any wireless connections from /e/n/i to *any* user by the simple fact that managed=false by *default*. Well ok... but that's what one needs to set when one at least

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-08-19 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sun, 2012-08-19 at 22:02:47 +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: But also: Alternatively you can install the consolekit package which will grant access for all locally logged in users. ConsoleKit has already been dropped and deprecated by upstream:

Re: Enabling uupdate to simply remove files from upstream source

2012-08-19 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sun, 2012-08-19 at 10:35:17 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: get-orig-source: git archive --remote='$(REPO)' --prefix='openafs_$(DEBVERS).orig/' \ --format=tar '$(TAG)' | tar xf - rm -r openafs_$(DEBVERS).orig/src/WINNT tar cf openafs_$(DEBVERS).orig.tar

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-08-19 Thread Chris Knadle
On Sunday, August 19, 2012 20:41:47, Michael Biebl wrote: […] I won't bother following up as I'm really tired of all this BS on debian-devel regarding NM lately. Sorry. My guess is, that this will be another of those pointless NM bashing threads, where nothing useful comes out of it. Actually

Re: Misc Developer News (#30)

2012-08-19 Thread Samuel Kerr
On 8/18/12, Paul Wise p...@debian.org wrote: The news are collected on http://wiki.debian.org/DeveloperNews Please contribute short news about your work/plans/subproject. In this issue: + Report from DSA Team Sprint + Using RAM for temporary files ? + Control Commands at

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-08-19 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 20 août 2012 04:07 CEST, Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org : But also: Alternatively you can install the consolekit package which will grant access for all locally logged in users. ConsoleKit has already been dropped and deprecated by upstream:

Accepted miniupnpd 1.7-2 (source amd64)

2012-08-19 Thread Thomas Goirand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 07:12:45 + Source: miniupnpd Binary: miniupnpd Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.7-2 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org Changed-By: Thomas Goirand

Accepted jsdoc-toolkit 2.4.0+dfsg-4 (source all)

2012-08-19 Thread georgesk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 08:52:43 +0200 Source: jsdoc-toolkit Binary: jsdoc-toolkit Architecture: source all Version: 2.4.0+dfsg-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Georges Khaznadar georg...@ofset.org Changed-By:

Accepted libdmtx 0.7.2-3 (source i386)

2012-08-19 Thread Roberto Lumbreras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 02:54:34 +0200 Source: libdmtx Binary: libdmtx0a libdmtx-dev libdmtx-utils Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.7.2-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Roberto Lumbreras ro...@debian.org Changed-By:

Accepted partclone 0.2.51-1 (source amd64)

2012-08-19 Thread georgesk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:15:44 +0200 Source: partclone Binary: partclone Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.2.51-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Georges Khaznadar georg...@ofset.org Changed-By: georg...@ofset.org

Accepted fritzing 0.7.7b+dfsg-1 (source all amd64)

2012-08-19 Thread georgesk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:31:20 +0200 Source: fritzing Binary: fritzing fritzing-data Architecture: source all amd64 Version: 0.7.7b+dfsg-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Enrique Hernández Bello ehbe...@gmail.com

Accepted focuswriter 1.3.80-1 (source amd64)

2012-08-19 Thread Barak A. Pearlmutter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:19:41 +0200 Source: focuswriter Binary: focuswriter Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.3.80-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Barak A. Pearlmutter b...@debian.org Changed-By: Barak A.

Accepted minbif 1:1.0.5+git20120508-2 (source i386)

2012-08-19 Thread Sebastien Delafond
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 12:38:44 +0200 Source: minbif Binary: minbif-common minbif minbif-dbg Architecture: source i386 Version: 1:1.0.5+git20120508-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Sebastien Delafond s...@debian.org

Accepted gnumed-server 17.3-1 (source all)

2012-08-19 Thread Andreas Tille
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 12:51:08 +0200 Source: gnumed-server Binary: gnumed-server Architecture: source all Version: 17.3-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Med Packaging Team

Accepted gnumed-client 1.2.3-1 (source all)

2012-08-19 Thread Andreas Tille
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:37:42 +0200 Source: gnumed-client Binary: gnumed-client gnumed-client-de gnumed-common gnumed-doc Architecture: source all Version: 1.2.3-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Med Packaging

Accepted fossil 1:1.23-1 (source amd64)

2012-08-19 Thread Barak A. Pearlmutter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:57:49 +0100 Source: fossil Binary: fossil Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1:1.23-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Barak A. Pearlmutter b...@debian.org Changed-By: Barak A. Pearlmutter

Accepted libzen 0.4.28-1 (source amd64 all)

2012-08-19 Thread Chow Loong Jin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:39:18 +0800 Source: libzen Binary: libzen-dev libzen0 libzen-doc Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 0.4.28-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Chow Loong Jin hyper...@debian.org Changed-By:

Accepted libmediainfo 0.7.59-1 (source amd64 all)

2012-08-19 Thread Chow Loong Jin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 20:12:33 +0800 Source: libmediainfo Binary: libmediainfo-dev libmediainfo0 libmediainfo-doc Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 0.7.59-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Chow Loong Jin

Accepted herbstluftwm 0.4-1 (source amd64)

2012-08-19 Thread Christoph Egger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 00:55:10 +0200 Source: herbstluftwm Binary: herbstluftwm Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.4-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Christoph Egger christ...@debian.org Changed-By: Christoph

Accepted mediainfo 0.7.59-1 (source amd64)

2012-08-19 Thread Chow Loong Jin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 20:43:25 +0800 Source: mediainfo Binary: mediainfo mediainfo-gui Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.7.59-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Chow Loong Jin hyper...@debian.org Changed-By: Chow

Accepted gmpc 11.8.16-4 (source amd64 all)

2012-08-19 Thread Etienne Millon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 22:59:10 +0200 Source: gmpc Binary: gmpc gmpc-dbg gmpc-dev gmpc-data Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 11.8.16-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Etienne Millon etienne.mil...@gmail.com

Accepted java-package 0.51~exp1 (source all)

2012-08-19 Thread Cédric Pineau
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 11:00:34 +0200 Source: java-package Binary: java-package Architecture: source all Version: 0.51~exp1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Java Maintainers

Accepted sendfile 2.1b.20080616-5.1 (source amd64)

2012-08-19 Thread Andreas Tille
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 15:03:55 +0200 Source: sendfile Binary: sendfile Architecture: source amd64 Version: 2.1b.20080616-5.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Martin Schulze j...@debian.org Changed-By: Andreas Tille

Accepted qt4-x11 4:4.8.2+dfsg-1 (source amd64 all)

2012-08-19 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:36:22 -0300 Source: qt4-x11 Binary: libqtcore4 libqt4-core libqtgui4 libqt4-gui libqt4-network libqt4-opengl libqt4-script libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-ibase libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-sql-odbc

Accepted viewvc 1.1.5-1.2 (source all)

2012-08-19 Thread gregor herrmann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:21:49 +0200 Source: viewvc Binary: viewvc viewvc-query Architecture: source all Version: 1.1.5-1.2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: David Martínez Moreno en...@debian.org Changed-By: gregor

Accepted wireshark 1.8.2-1 (source all i386)

2012-08-19 Thread Balint Reczey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 14:30:56 +0200 Source: wireshark Binary: wireshark-common wireshark tshark wireshark-dev wireshark-dbg wireshark-doc libwireshark2 libwsutil2 libwsutil-dev libwireshark-data libwireshark-dev libwiretap2

Accepted dozzaqueux 3.21-5 (source amd64 all)

2012-08-19 Thread georgesk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:06:37 +0200 Source: dozzaqueux Binary: dozzaqueux dozzaqueux-data Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 3.21-5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Georges Khaznadar georg...@ofset.org Changed-By:

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