Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian

2013-08-28 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Steve Langasek wrote: > Well, I don't think that's a very good policy. I don't see why, if the bug > is worth fixing in a stable release for security reasons, it should go > through the stable-updates channel instead of the security channel. Going via stable-updates allows f

ITP: apache-log4j2 -- Apache logging framework for Java

2013-08-28 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Package: wnpp Owner: Emmanuel Bourg Control: retitle -1 ITP: apache-log4j2 -- Apache logging framework for Java * Package name: apache-log4j2 Version : 2.0-beta8 Upstream Author : The Apache Software Foundation * URL : http://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/ * License

Bug#721121: ITP: minetest-mod-moreores -- Minetest mod - More Ores

2013-08-28 Thread Dominik George
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dominik George -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 * Package name: minetest-mod-moreores Upstream Author : Calinou * License : GPL-3+, CC-BY-SA-3.0 Programming Lang: Lua Description : Minetest mod - More Ores This mod ad

Re: Longer maintainance for (former) stable releases of Debian (Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian)

2013-08-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 27 aug 13, 10:18:53, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Alternately, we could be far more aggressive about removing packages from > oldstable, I suppose, but I don't think that's a good idea; that just > leaves our users with exactly the sorts of choices that we're trying to > avoid. I think it's muc

Re: Web ID as passwordless authentication for debian web services

2013-08-28 Thread Olivier Berger
Hi Daniel. I've been slowly trying to play with OpenPGP and WebID, in the context of its use in the Debian project, and wanted to investigate the possible solutions to bind an OpenPGP key to a WebID. Maybe your expertise on OpenPGP specs can help here. Basically, in the same way as a X590 cert p

Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian

2013-08-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Steve Langasek writes ("Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian"): > To me, being redirected to stable-updates constitutes a refusal/denial by > the security team to use the security updates channel. Again, if it's a > security issue that's not important enough to be an official security > update, it's not imp

Re: Longer maintainance for (former) stable releases of Debian (Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian)

2013-08-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Bastien ROUCARIES writes ("Re: Longer maintainance for (former) stable releases of Debian (Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian)"): > Le 27 août 2013 19:32, "Ian Jackson" a > écrit : > > Worse: in practice, removing packages is invisible to the users and > > their package manager. The `removed' packages j

Re: Longer maintainance for (former) stable releases of Debian (Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian)

2013-08-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson writes ("Re: Longer maintainance for (former) stable releases of Debian (Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian)"): > Bastien ROUCARIES writes ("Re: Longer maintainance for (former) stable > releases of Debian (Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian)"): > > Why not un this case creating an empty package depe

Re: getaddrinfo() return value chaos

2013-08-28 Thread Thomas Hood
I wrote: > Kurt has filed a new bug report against eglibc > >http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15726 > > which draws the developers' attention to RFC3493 which specifies the > return values of getaddrinfo(). These should be as follows. > [...] > Further discussion can best be carri

Re: Longer maintainance for (former) stable releases of Debian (Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian)

2013-08-28 Thread Michael Meskes
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 07:52:33PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > I don't really understand it myself as server packages and their > dependencies tend to be stable and I tend to want the latest versions of > dovecot, unbound etc.. > > However perhaps there is a divide here between servers which wa

Re: Longer maintainance for (former) stable releases of Debian (Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian)

2013-08-28 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Michael Meskes wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 07:52:33PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > I don't really understand it myself as server packages and their > > dependencies tend to be stable and I tend to want the latest versions of > > dovecot, unbound etc.. > >

Re: Longer maintainance for (former) stable releases of Debian (Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian)

2013-08-28 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 04:29:08PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 07:52:33PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > I don't really understand it myself as server packages and their > > dependencies tend to be stable and I tend to want the latest versions of > > dovecot, unbound et

Re: Longer maintainance for (former) stable releases of Debian (Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian)

2013-08-28 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Neil McGovern wrote: > I think you have a very valid point here. I kind of doubt many people > would > > like to run on a five year old desktop. > > > > Stats seem to disagree: > > http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=11&qpcusto

Re: UTF-8 in jessie

2013-08-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Adam Borowski writes ("UTF-8 in jessie"): > I would like to propose full UTF-8 support. I don't mean here full > support for all of Unicode's finer points, merely complete eradication of > mojibake. That is, ensuring that /m.o/ matches "möo", or that "ä" sorts > as equal to "a""combining ¨" is ou

Update policies for security bugs [Was, Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian]

2013-08-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 11:42:05AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Steve Langasek writes ("Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian"): > > To me, being redirected to stable-updates constitutes a refusal/denial by > > the security team to use the security updates channel. Again, if it's a > > security issue that's n

Re: UTF-8 in jessie

2013-08-28 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 12 August 2013 01:51, Adam Borowski wrote: > > 3. all file names must be valid UTF-8 > Case in point errors from ubuntu UDD package importer: """ Packages containing non-UTF-8, non-ASCII filenames. This is a problem. It is unclear how to sensibly map these into Bazaar. anon-proxy aspell-is as

Importing autopkgtests from Ubuntu [Was: Bits from the Release]

2013-08-28 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Niels Thykier wrote: > At the moment there are unfortunately very few autopkgtest tests. Ubuntu has been pushing autopkgtest tests to more packages. Hopefully, most of these are being sent back as patches to the BTS. Out of curiosity, I ran a UDD query to see whi

Re: UTF-8 in jessie

2013-08-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 04:20:17PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Adam Borowski writes ("UTF-8 in jessie"): > > I would like to propose full UTF-8 support. I don't mean here full > > support for all of Unicode's finer points, merely complete eradication of > > mojibake. That is, ensuring that /m.o/

Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian

2013-08-28 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2013-08-28 10:42, Ian Jackson wrote: As Peter Palfrader points out stable-updates allows more review, because it doesn't suffer from the process problems caused by the need for secrecy. stable-updates are also made in less of a hurry. Iff people actually test proposed-updates. The feedback

Re: Longer maintainance for (former) stable releases of Debian (Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian)

2013-08-28 Thread Bastien ROUCARIES
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Ian Jackson writes ("Re: Longer maintainance for (former) stable releases of > Debian (Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian)"): >> Bastien ROUCARIES writes ("Re: Longer maintainance for (former) stable >> releases of Debian (Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian

Less dinstall FTW?

2013-08-28 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Hello Debian world, there is currently a discussion within the FTP Team and we appear to have two opinions on it. As we are open on the outcome and it basically affects the whole project, we came up with the following summary to solicit feedback, opinions and other ideas. The proposal at hand is:

Re: Less dinstall FTW?

2013-08-28 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 28/08/13 at 22:58 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > Hello Debian world, > > there is currently a discussion within the FTP Team and we appear to > have two opinions on it. As we are open on the outcome and it basically > affects the whole project, we came up with the following summary to > solicit

Re: Less dinstall FTW?

2013-08-28 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 28 August 2013 21:58, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > Hello Debian world, > > there is currently a discussion within the FTP Team and we appear to > have two opinions on it. As we are open on the outcome and it basically > affects the whole project, we came up with the following summary to > solicit fee

Re: Less dinstall FTW?

2013-08-28 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, Lucas Nussbaum writes: > Is there a reason why we couldn't have incoming.d.o apt-able without > lowering the dinstall frequency? That is also possible, however fewer dinstall runs mean less data to push to mirrors and to archive on snapshot.d.o as dists/ would change less often. And with a p

Bug#721193: ITP: minetest-mod-moreblocks -- Minetest mod - More Blocks

2013-08-28 Thread Dominik George
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dominik George -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 * Package name: minetest-mod-moreblocks Upstream Author : Calinou * License : zlib/libpng Programming Lang: Lua Description : Minetest mod - More Blocks This mod adds so

Bug#721194: ITP: mapnik-vector-tile -- Vector tiles integration with mapnik - development files

2013-08-28 Thread Jérémy Lal
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Jérémy Lal" * Package name: mapnik-vector-tile Version : 0.3.2 Upstream Author : Mapbox * URL : https://github.com/mapbox/mapnik-vector-tile * License : BSD-3-clause Programming Lang: C++ Description : Vector til

Bug#721197: ITP: minetest-mod-technic -- Minetest mod - Technic

2013-08-28 Thread Dominik George
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dominik George -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 * Package name: minetest-mod-technic Upstream Author : RealBadAngel * License : GPL-2 Programming Lang: Lua Description : Minetest mod - Technic All technic stuff for mi

Bug#721200: ITP: minetest-mod-moretrees -- Minetest mod - more trees

2013-08-28 Thread Dominik George
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dominik George -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 * Package name: minetest-mod-moretrees Upstream Author : Vanessa Ezekowitz * License : WTFPL Programming Lang: Lua Description : Minetest mod - more trees This mod adds

Re: Less dinstall FTW?

2013-08-28 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 08/29/2013 12:13 AM, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Lucas Nussbaum writes: >> Is there a reason why we couldn't have incoming.d.o apt-able without >> lowering the dinstall frequency? > > That is also possible, however fewer dinstall runs mean less data to > push to mirrors and to archive on snapsho