Re: Testez l'installateur Debian....

2003-11-19 Thread Frédéric BOITEUX
Bonjour, Suite à l'appel au test (d'accord je ne suis pas en avance mais vieux motard que jamais), j'aimerais tester le nouvel installateur Debian comme j'ai l'habitude de l'utiliser, c'est-à-dire via un boot réseau (sur des machines dans disquettes ni CD-ROM). Pb: sur l'image ISO,

Re: MIPS port backlog, autobuilder machines and some arrogance

2003-11-19 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 02:32:53PM +1100, Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader wrote: And since we're on topic: people interested in SGI hardware (for example to work on debian-installer) in the USA, please get in contact with me. Hmm, regarding to Goswin Brederlow debian-installer build

Minneapolis, MN USA BSP + Keysigning

2003-11-19 Thread Scott Dier
Thanks to Chad Walstrom for really coming up with the idea! ** PLEASE RSVP privately to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** I need to know how many people and if you are planning on a laptop (wireless or wired) or a full computer (I've only got so much space). What: Bug Squashing Party (BSP) and Keysigning

Re: Minneapolis, MN USA BSP + Keysigning

2003-11-19 Thread Scott Dier
Important directions correction below: * Scott Dier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031119 00:01]: One way to get here from there: Take Hwy 10 to Foley Blvd., go south. Take a right at 99th Ave NW Take a right at Woodcrest At Foley continue straight, the

First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, just an idea from a completely uneducated person regarding buildd: What about if each freshly uploaded package which contains architecture any packages would enter kind of a staging area first and buildds grab these files from there. After each buildd was able to build a package

Re: Bug#220301: ITP: entropy -- Emerging Network To Reduce Orwellian Potency Yield

2003-11-19 Thread Mike Beattie
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 11:18:39PM -0500, Joe Drew wrote: This doesn't really tell me anything about ENTROPY. How about anti-censorship network client? That would do. The acronym ENTROPY should be defined in the first line of the long description. Right, better than the short description.

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Michael Piefel
Am 19.11.03 um 07:42:18 schrieb Andreas Tille: After each buildd was able to build a package the whole set with all architectures enters unstable at once. Yeah, cool. That would get rid of many buggy packages. And many clean ones. Some buildd are horribly behind time. No offence meant,

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Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 08:48:10AM +0100, Michael Piefel wrote: Am 19.11.03 um 07:42:18 schrieb Andreas Tille: After each buildd was able to build a package the whole set with all architectures enters unstable at once. I like the idea. Yeah, cool. That would get rid of many buggy

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread ij
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Take workrave, for instance. Perfectly stable, as far as I can tell. Not built recently on m68k (because of libgnomeuimm2.0-dev), not built on alpha for a very long time (same reason). It's not in testing, which is bad enough, with your idea only

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces

2003-11-19 Thread Florent Rougon
Darren Salt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find myself wondering if Duff's Device is implementable in Python... The closest beast I can think of would generate the unrolled loop at runtime and use 'exec' to run it. But this is a bit off topic for d-d. -- Florent

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Andreas Tille wrote: Hi, just an idea from a completely uneducated person regarding buildd: What about if each freshly uploaded package which contains architecture any packages would enter kind of a staging area first and buildds grab these files from there. After each buildd was able

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:42:18AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: Hi, just an idea from a completely uneducated person regarding buildd: What about if each freshly uploaded package which contains architecture any packages would enter kind of a staging area first and buildds grab these

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces

2003-11-19 Thread Cameron Patrick
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:58:54PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: | Cameron Patrick wrote: | I don't think it is. Python doesn't have a switch/case equivalent. It'd | have to be done with a bunch of if's or something. | | Well, depends. Do you consider its dictionary to be a switch? Nope, no

Re: Debian packages of 7.4

2003-11-19 Thread Roger Leigh
Stephen Frost [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It would be really nice to have 7.4 in sarge.. Personally I think there should probably be enough time given the lack of messages on d-d-a regarding freezes and the like. 7.4 adds alot of nice things and speeds up a number of operations, etc. Further

New Tutorials: Slideshows in Flash MX plus Thanksgiving Video

2003-11-19 Thread Wildform Newsletter
Wildform Newsletter: The Resource for Wildform Product News Wednesday, November 19, 2003 http://www.wildform.com == NEW: 1. New Tutorial: Flash MX Slideshow with Listeners 2. New Tutorial: Flash MX Slideshow with Pause Button 3. New

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 09:44:31AM +0100, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: No!!! it would delay to much the entry of some important packages in unstable. It would maybe improve some architectures, but definitely would reduce extensive testing of newer versions. In which way would it improve

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:02:17AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: I don't think people would like it if their package stayed in incoming for multiple weeks because there's a backlog on some architecture. Neither i. This is why i would like to receive baklogs mailed to maintainer if autobuild

debian-devel@lists.debian.org

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Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-19 Thread Yann Dirson
Adrian wrote: Your proposal wouldn't have been able to shorten the move of KDE 3 into testing by one single day. Yes, my comment was misplaced wrt what you said, this problem still has to be addressed. My proposal, however, is more targetted to packages which would build with, say, KDE2, but

Re: debian-installer beta 1

2003-11-19 Thread Bart Schuller
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 10:42:11PM +0100, David Weinehall wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 07:52:32AM +1100, Brian May wrote: 1. Linux 2.6.0? Not released yet. Yes, it has a _lot_ of nice features, but it is beta software.. It (or patches to 2.4.22) is also needed if you decide to buy a

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: If we let it in and then we auto-build it, we get a new package with FTBFS (i.e RC) bugs and slow down release even more. If we auto-build it first and, if no upstream/package faults, we let it in, we get less RC bugs. Exactly this

perl 5.8.2-2 mips buildd

2003-11-19 Thread Domenico Andreoli
hi, i see that perl 5.8.2-2 is marked Not-For-Us on mips buildd. why it is in this state? it blocks the build of a lot of software. cheers dom -[ Domenico Andreoli, aka cavok --[ http://filibusta.crema.unimi.it/~cavok/gpgkey.asc ---[ 3A0F 2F80 F79C 678A 8936 4FEE 0677 9033 A20E BC50

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:42:18AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: What about if each freshly uploaded package which contains architecture any packages would enter kind of a staging area first and buildds grab these files from there. After each buildd was able to build a package the

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: b. They are already kept off testing (if there is a regression), so what's the problem? The problem is that other packages which might depend from a package which is broken on one architecture will not move into testing. If you would keep

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:10:14AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: If we let it in and then we auto-build it, we get a new package with FTBFS (i.e RC) bugs and slow down release even more. If we auto-build it first and, if no

Re: MIPS port backlog, autobuilder machines and some arrogance

2003-11-19 Thread Andreas Metzler
Ingo Juergensmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Perl is building fine as well now on mips, although it is marked as not-for-us. See http://m68k.bluespice.org/cgi/package_status?mips_pkg=perlsearchtype=go paco:/home/ij# ls -l *.deb -rw-r--r--1 root root35172 Nov 18 22:24

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: (...) Why developers should care more about packages not entering into unstable that packages not entering into testing? I worry about indirect delays. Scenario: developer A@ do good job with packages A, but A requires packages B. What should A do? Waiting

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:10:14AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: Exactly this was the idea. I'm unsure whether experimental could serve as this kind of staging area. I would keep experimental only for experiments (:P), while i see your proposal as a new step to be included in our packages

Bug#221632: ITP: jaabc2ps -- Converts abc text music notation to postscript sheet music

2003-11-19 Thread Raphael Goulais
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: jaabc2ps Version : 1.1.0 Upstream Author : John Atchley [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.guitarnut.com/ * License : GPL Description : Converts abc text music notation to postscript sheet music Produces

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:21:18AM +0100, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: I worry about indirect delays. Scenario: developer A@ do good job with packages A, but A requires packages B. What should A do? Waiting and not lose the motivation? Help B@, maybe with a NMU, but still waiting the canonical

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Andreas Metzler
Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:02:17AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: I don't think people would like it if their package stayed in incoming for multiple weeks because there's a backlog on some architecture. Neither i. This is why i would

Re: Debian communication and attitude [was: Re: Example of really nasty DD behavior]

2003-11-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 12:44:03PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: No, but if you don't do it, you forfeit your right to whine about duplicate work when it turns out that you're not the only one who has been doing work without telling anybody about it. So, _both_ people involved should have

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: I worry about indirect delays. Scenario: developer A@ do good job with packages A, but A requires packages B. What should A do? Waiting and not lose the motivation? But the problem can be the other way around: A builds his package against

Re: Build-depends for Rekall?

2003-11-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This seems on topic for the list's stated purpose: Discussion about technical development topics. I'm trying to build rekall from rekallrevealed.org. It seems like it's going to have lots of build dependencies. If anyone has ever built it on debian, or

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, just an idea from a completely uneducated person regarding buildd: What about if each freshly uploaded package which contains architecture any packages would enter kind of a staging area first and buildds grab these files from there.

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-19 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 10:15:25AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:35:19PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:42:20PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: - Debian 3.0 doesn't support much of the hardware curently available - the old 2.4.18 kernel on the

Re: Bug#217017: ITP: Sagasu - GNOME tool to find strings in a set of files

2003-11-19 Thread Daniel Gubser
Sorry for my late reply: Am Don, 2003-10-23 um 15.17 schrieb Joe Drew: * Package name: sagasu Er, what does this add over the standard Search for files GNOME action? - use of Perl regex - max. directory recursion depth -- Daniel Gubser [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: perl 5.8.2-2 mips buildd

2003-11-19 Thread Roland Mas
Domenico Andreoli, 2003-11-19 11:30:17 +0100 : i see that perl 5.8.2-2 is marked Not-For-Us on mips buildd. why it is in this state? it blocks the build of a lot of software. I'm currently building it by hand. Roland. -- Roland Mas Qu'est-ce qui est petit, jaune et vachement dangereux ? Un

Re: Is vrms really still a Virtual Richard M. Stallman?

2003-11-19 Thread Florian Weimer
Roland Stigge wrote: debian-legalint I don't think this is a good idea. non-free doesn't mean illegal.

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-19 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 10:41:05AM +0100, Yann Dirson wrote: testsuites must be written, and testsuites for GUI programs are even more work. Fortunately several of the packages we ship already have one. Most do not. And for the bunch of non-gui programs, we could surely add some

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:21:18AM +0100, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: - the developers (maybe requiring not only uploader) could override the waiting status in pre-unstable queue. I do not understand this: what do you mean? I don't like automatic system

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:42:18AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: just an idea from a completely uneducated person regarding buildd: What about if each freshly uploaded package which contains architecture any packages would enter kind of a staging area first and buildds grab these

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: You are ignoring all the packages that don't build and never have been build for some architecture. Mainly that happens if some build-depends, like the compiler needed, wasn't yet ported. But this is no FTBFS bug than. I just want to keep

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Andrew Suffield wrote: This seems like a solution in search of a problem. What problem are you actually trying to solve? Start by describing it, then we can try dreaming up ways to solve it. [Given your vague description of what this would accomplish, I have a few guesses

New kernel headers break LVM build

2003-11-19 Thread Patrick Caulfield
LVM1 includes kernel headers in its build - yeah, I know, but it does interface (rather too) tightly into the kernel. The problem now is that the linux-kernel-headers package has Linux 2.6 files in it rather than 2.4 and LVM(1) is not supported in 2.6. so it doesn't build. This isn't a new

Re: Is vrms really still a Virtual Richard M. Stallman?

2003-11-19 Thread Roland Stigge
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 14:41, Florian Weimer wrote: debian-legalint I don't think this is a good idea. non-free doesn't mean illegal. In contrast to the common German denotation of the word legal (allowed), consider the one implied by the usage of legal in names like debian-legal (rechtlich,

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-19 Thread Wookey
+++ Yann Dirson [03-11-18 22:54 +0100]: On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 07:29:29PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: But that last point raises another issue: does anyone really use testing ? Would anyone use pre-testing after all ? I used testing for a couple of years on my laptop and non-critical

Hercules Stingray 128 3D Driver

2003-11-19 Thread Foster William MSgt AF/XPI-ES
Would you have a Win2K/WinXP driver? Thanks. WILLIAM E. FOSTER Chief, Information Technology Security DCS/Plans and Programs mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] comm: 703 695-3539 DSN: 225-3539 Ivy.gif

Re: New kernel headers break LVM build

2003-11-19 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 02:18:34PM +, Patrick Caulfield wrote: The only solution I can think of is for the lvm10 package to build-depend on (eg) kernel-source-2.4.19, then in the build script untar the header files, make the arch symlink (ugh) and compile against that. Does anyone else

Re: Is vrms really still a Virtual Richard M. Stallman?

2003-11-19 Thread Florian Weimer
Roland Stigge wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 14:41, Florian Weimer wrote: debian-legalint I don't think this is a good idea. non-free doesn't mean illegal. In contrast to the common German denotation of the word legal (allowed), consider the one implied by the usage of legal in names

Re: Trouble Compiling Simple Glade.

2003-11-19 Thread Mark Howard
Hi, debian-devel is a list for development of the Debian distribution, not a general programming list. For a more appropriate list, look on the glade website at glade.gnome.org. I'm afraid I can't help you with this problem, but I do offer some advice: use libglade to load the glade xml

Re: Hercules Stingray 128 3D Driver

2003-11-19 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 09:14, Foster William MSgt AF/XPI-ES wrote: Would you have a Win2K/WinXP driver? Thanks. WILLIAM E. FOSTER Chief, Information Technology Security DCS/Plans and Programs mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] comm: 703 695-3539 DSN: 225-3539 Sorry this is a mailing list

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 03:12:42PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Andrew Suffield wrote: This seems like a solution in search of a problem. What problem are you actually trying to solve? Start by describing it, then we can try dreaming up ways to solve it. [Given your

Re: perl 5.8.2-2 mips buildd

2003-11-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:05:49AM +0100, Domenico Andreoli wrote: i see that perl 5.8.2-2 is marked Not-For-Us on mips buildd. why it is in this state? it blocks the build of a lot of software. I'm told that getting it past the test suite requires a newer kernel, which our mips buildds don't

Re: [debian-devel] Re: Is vrms really still a Virtual Richard M. Stallman?

2003-11-19 Thread Magosnyi rpd
A levelezm azt hiszi, hogy Florian Weimer a kvetkezeket rta: Let me rephrase my statement. non-free does not mean not conforming to the law. Non-free does mean not conforming to the internal law of the project. -- GNU GPL: csak tiszta forrsbl

Re: [debian-devel] Re: Is vrms really still a Virtual Richard M. Stallman?

2003-11-19 Thread Florian Weimer
Magosnyi rpd wrote: A levelezm azt hiszi, hogy Florian Weimer a kvetkezeket rta: Let me rephrase my statement. non-free does not mean not conforming to the law. Non-free does mean not conforming to the internal law of the project. The Social Contract mandates that Debian offers non-free

Bug#221679: ITP: libglib-perl -- Perl interface to the Glib and GLib's GObject libraries

2003-11-19 Thread Marc Brockschmidt
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: libglib-perl Version : 1.011 Upstream Author : Gtk2-Perl Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~mlehmann/Glib-1.011/ * License : LGPL-2 Description : Perl interface to the Glib and GLib's

Re: [debian-devel] Re: Is vrms really still a Virtual Richard M. Stallman?

2003-11-19 Thread David Weinehall
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 04:04:49PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: Magosányi Árpád wrote: A levelez??m azt hiszi, hogy Florian Weimer a következ??eket írta: Let me rephrase my statement. non-free does not mean not conforming to the law. Non-free does mean not conforming to the

Bug#221687: ITP: libextutils-pkgconfig -- simplistic perl interface to pkg-config

2003-11-19 Thread Marc Brockschmidt
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: libextutils-pkgconfig Version : 1.00 Upstream Author : muppet [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://gtk2-perl.sourceforge.net/ * License : LGPL Description : simplistic perl interface to pkg-config The

Bug#221684: ITP: libextutils-depends-perl -- easily build XS extensions that depend on XS extensions

2003-11-19 Thread Marc Brockschmidt
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: libextutils-depends-perl Version : 0.102 Upstream Author : Paolo Molaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://gtk2-perl.sf.net/ * License : ? (Mailed upstream) Description : easily build XS extensions that

Re: New kernel headers break LVM build

2003-11-19 Thread Patrick Caulfield
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 03:33:53PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 02:18:34PM +, Patrick Caulfield wrote: The only solution I can think of is for the lvm10 package to build-depend on (eg) kernel-source-2.4.19, then in the build script untar the header files, make

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces

2003-11-19 Thread Steve Lamb
Cameron Patrick wrote: Nope, no fall-through in that one, so it doesn't help. It /is/ nifty though :-) Uh, there was a fall through there. Notice that if x has a value that isn't in the dictionary the if will fall through to the else. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest,

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-19 Thread Martin Quinson
I like this idea of pre-testing. It would allow to cut down the versionned dependencies caused by automatic detection and allow a quicker move to testing. The issue I see however is that a package rebuilded that way would go into testing without being tested by anyone. What if a given package

Re: New kernel headers break LVM build

2003-11-19 Thread Andres Salomon
You might be able to get away w/ simply including the lvm-specific kernel headers in your package, as long as the lower level asm stuff that it uses haven't changed their interface in 2.6. OTOH, it also might introduce subtle bugs. Maybe you're better off build-dep'ing. Sigh. I should probably

will we freeze?

2003-11-19 Thread Graham Wilson
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 08:58:17AM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote: It would be really nice to have 7.4 in sarge.. Personally I think there should probably be enough time given the lack of messages on d-d-a regarding freezes and the like. 7.4 adds alot of nice things and speeds up a number of

Re: will we freeze?

2003-11-19 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 10:43:22AM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 08:58:17AM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote: It would be really nice to have 7.4 in sarge.. Personally I think there should probably be enough time given the lack of messages on d-d-a regarding freezes and the

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-19 Thread Yann Dirson
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 02:03:08PM +, Wookey wrote: Doing my builds on a testing machine, then uploading to unstable can mean I introduce packages compiled against the wrong library versions. Source-only uploads would solve this and I could do test-compiles on some debian machine. Off

Re: perl 5.8.2-2 mips buildd

2003-11-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 06:03:39PM +0100, Karsten Merker wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 02:58:16PM +, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:05:49AM +0100, Domenico Andreoli wrote: i see that perl 5.8.2-2 is marked Not-For-Us on mips buildd. why it is in this state? it

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: You are ignoring all the packages that don't build and never have been build for some architecture. Mainly that happens if some build-depends, like the compiler needed, wasn't yet ported. It gets

make-kpkg question

2003-11-19 Thread Liberty Young
I'm building kernels for an embedded x86 product, and I'm falling in love with make-kpkg. My only problem is that make-kpkg --added-modules pcmcia-cs kernel_image modules_image doesn't do a depmod on the pcmcia-cs modules against the built kernel. I assume others have not run into this problem

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Giacomo A. Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:21:18AM +0100, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: - the developers (maybe requiring not only uploader) could override the waiting status in pre-unstable queue. I do not

Re: MIPS port backlog, autobuilder machines and some arrogance

2003-11-19 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 03:56:44PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: DDs have to sign and upload a package with a backdoor. On the buildd I can install a gcc or other tool that will silently add a backdoor to anything getting compiled and the buildd admin will sign and upload the package

Re: MIPS port backlog, autobuilder machines and some arrogance

2003-11-19 Thread Guido Guenther
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 06:43:00AM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: Perl is building fine as well now on mips, although it is marked as not-for-us. See http://m68k.bluespice.org/cgi/package_status?mips_pkg=perlsearchtype=go This might be due to the fact that the autobuilders don't run recent

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Andreas Tille wrote: just an idea from a completely uneducated person regarding buildd: What about if each freshly uploaded package which contains architecture any packages would enter kind of a staging area first and buildds grab these files from there. After

Bug#221709: ITP: at76c503a-source -- at76c503a driver source

2003-11-19 Thread Guido Guenther
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: at76c503a-source Version : 0.11.beta5 * URL : Oliver Kurth oku at masqmail dot cx * License : GPL Description : at76c503a driver source . Alternative driver for the Atmel AT76C503A based USB WLAN adapters.

Re: Preparation of Debian GNU/Linux 3.0r2 (II)

2003-11-19 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 11:20:21AM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 04:30:26PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: Kenshi Muto wrote: At Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:59:24 +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: Preparation of Debian GNU/Linux 3.0r2

Re: perl 5.8.2-2 mips buildd

2003-11-19 Thread Guido Guenther
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 05:42:29PM +, Colin Watson wrote: [...] - Fix msqid_ds on MIPS. Dpatch from Guido Guenther, patch by Thiemo Seufer (Closes: #215273, #200215, #217593). [...] ...additionally the current 2.4.22 mips kernel packages have the necessary fixes. The mips

Re: Preparation of Debian GNU/Linux 3.0r2 (II)

2003-11-19 Thread Martin Schulze
Steve Langasek wrote: If I understood you correctly, you want me to remove these packages: ttf-kochi-mincho ttf-kochi-mincho-naga10 ttf-xwatanabe-mincho watanabe-vfont ttf-xtt-wadalab-gothic (source ttf-xtt) ttf-xtt-watanabe-mincho (source ttf-xtt) from the stable distribution

Re: Bug#220301: ITP: entropy -- Emerging Network To Reduce Orwellian Potency Yield

2003-11-19 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Mike Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a good, though perhaps too detailed, long description. Taken directly from the web page... (I'm lazy) The description left me wondering whether this is just anonter peer-to-peer filesharing network, or there is something else to it. Either way,

Re: Debian communication and attitude [was: Re: Example of really nasty DD behavior]

2003-11-19 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Jonathan Dowland [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 12:44:03PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: No, but if you don't do it, you forfeit your right to whine about duplicate work when it turns out that you're not the only one who has been doing work without telling anybody about

Re: MIPS port backlog, autobuilder machines and some arrogance

2003-11-19 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:20:09 +0100, Guido Guenther wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 06:43:00AM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: Perl is building fine as well now on mips, although it is marked as not-for-us. See http://m68k.bluespice.org/cgi/package_status?mips_pkg=perlsearchtype=go This might

Re: MIPS port backlog, autobuilder machines and some arrogance

2003-11-19 Thread Joerg Wendland
Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader, on 2003-11-19, 14:32, you wrote: * Ingo Juergensmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-16 15:40]: Yes, a fairly powerful machine has recently been donated to Debian and we're currently working out where to host it. Where is it located? In the

Re: Is vrms really still a Virtual Richard M. Stallman?

2003-11-19 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roland Stigge wrote: debian-legalint I don't think this is a good idea. Me neither. A virtual debian-legal would be something that analyzed licenses: $ debian-legalint COPYRIGHT.foo COPYRIGHT.foo:33: warning: mentions specific protocol standard

Re: Bug#221709: ITP: at76c503a-source -- at76c503a driver source

2003-11-19 Thread Oliver Kurth
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:04:45PM +0100, Guido Guenther wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: at76c503a-source Version : 0.11.beta5 * URL : Oliver Kurth oku at masqmail dot cx * License : GPL Description : at76c503a driver source

Re: Bug#221709: ITP: at76c503a-source -- at76c503a driver source

2003-11-19 Thread Oliver Kurth
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 08:06:32PM +0100, Guido Guenther wrote: Hi Oliver, On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:43:30PM +0100, Oliver Kurth wrote: That is my email addrss in the URL field... not the site to download. It is really http://at76c503a.berlios.de/ My name is correct for upstream, but

vhi

2003-11-19 Thread REN
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Re: Bug#221709: ITP: at76c503a-source -- at76c503a driver source

2003-11-19 Thread Guido Guenther
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 08:01:40PM +0100, Oliver Kurth wrote: Okay, but you placed an email into the URL field. Cut'n'Paste erro. It's correct in the package. This is okay. Atmel allows to distribute those files, I have got a message from one of their developers, it should also be on the

Re: Bug#221709: ITP: at76c503a-source -- at76c503a driver source

2003-11-19 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:52:22PM +0100, Oliver Kurth wrote: There may also be issues with the firmware: the source is /not/ GPL'ed, but the hex files from Atmel are. I am not sure if this is possible, and if it is a problem for Debian to get it into main. IANAL, but... If the hex files are

Re: Bug#221709: ITP: at76c503a-source -- at76c503a driver source

2003-11-19 Thread Oliver Kurth
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 08:26:56PM +0100, Guido Guenther wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 08:01:40PM +0100, Oliver Kurth wrote: Okay, but you placed an email into the URL field. Cut'n'Paste erro. It's correct in the package. Fine. This is okay. Atmel allows to distribute those files, I have

Re: Bug#221709: ITP: at76c503a-source -- at76c503a driver source

2003-11-19 Thread Oliver Kurth
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 08:41:32PM +0100, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 07:52:22PM +0100, Oliver Kurth wrote: There may also be issues with the firmware: the source is /not/ GPL'ed, but the hex files from Atmel are. I am not sure if this is possible, and if it is a

Re: Bug#221709: ITP: at76c503a-source -- at76c503a driver source

2003-11-19 Thread Oliver Kurth
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 08:00:48PM +, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Oliver Kurth [EMAIL PROTECTED] But you do not seem to see my point: the human readable sources of the firmware files are _not_ open. The hex files, ie. the compiled form, in ACSII format they say _are_ GPL'ed

Re: Bug#221709: ITP: at76c503a-source -- at76c503a driver source

2003-11-19 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Oliver Kurth [EMAIL PROTECTED] But you do not seem to see my point: the human readable sources of the firmware files are _not_ open. The hex files, ie. the compiled form, in ACSII format they say _are_ GPL'ed (despite the disclaimer in those files, see above). What you're missing is

Re: First pass all buildds before entering unstable

2003-11-19 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 03:43:31AM -0600, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:02:17AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: I don't think people would like it if their package stayed in incoming for multiple weeks because there's a backlog on some architecture. Neither

Re: Bug#221709: ITP: at76c503a-source -- at76c503a driver source

2003-11-19 Thread Oliver Kurth
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 08:25:44PM +, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Oliver Kurth [EMAIL PROTECTED] If the hex files are GPLed, they are probably not distributable -- hex .c files probably do not fall into the GPL's definition of source code Maybe there can be an exception

Re: Bug#221709: ITP: at76c503a-source -- at76c503a driver source

2003-11-19 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Oliver Kurth [EMAIL PROTECTED] If the hex files are GPLed, they are probably not distributable -- hex .c files probably do not fall into the GPL's definition of source code Maybe there can be an exception because the code is not run on the host but on the device? Who do you

Re: Trouble Compiling Simple Glade.

2003-11-19 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 15:44:54 +1100, Peter Gatt wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Projects/project1$ ./autogen.sh \**Warning**: I am going to run `configure' with no arguments. If you wish to pass any to it, please specify them on the `./autogen.sh' command line. processing . Running aclocal

Re: Bug#221709: ITP: at76c503a-source -- at76c503a driver source

2003-11-19 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Oliver Kurth wrote: Sigh. So if Atmel says these files are no longer GPL'ed, but are just freely distributable, it could at least go to non-free? Yes. Sounds ridiculous. (Law is too complicated to me, so I stick to programming ;-) ) Thats part and parcel of the GPL...

Re: Bug#221709: ITP: at76c503a-source -- at76c503a driver source

2003-11-19 Thread Guido Guenther
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 08:36:31PM +0100, Oliver Kurth wrote: I am sure these lines in the files can be removed, by bugging the Atmel people, or at least 'override' it with an 'It is okay' message from them. O.k., we can upload to non-free then. But you do not seem to see my point: the human

Re: Help with init replacement

2003-11-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: Now /that/ is interresting and smart and is indeed likely the most promising avenue for quick and dirty daemond integration in debian; the problem is that from what I have understood, update-rc.d suffers from, by design, exactly the same problem

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