Bug Squashing Party on the coming weekend -- August, 5th - 7th

2005-08-02 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
Hi. Due to numerous transitions, many new upstream versions and rapid development of native packages we had a big jump in the numbers of RC bugs since the sarge release. To not causing a delay down the road when we try to stabilise for the next release we need to work on them ASAP. In the past

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 10:42:17PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Moreno Garza [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been in the whole NM process for more than 13 months now. I spent around 6 months with my AM, around another 6 to be approved by

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Nigel Jones
On 02/08/05, Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 03:31:36PM +1200, Nigel Jones wrote: On 02/08/05, Stepan Golosunov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 08:24:30PM +0200, Laszlo Boszormenyi wrote: Nothing. It was just a question, as Nikita sounds to

Re: I need to know how to create and use Driver Update Disks

2005-08-02 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 01:51:10PM -0700, Allyn, MarkX A wrote: Hello: I will be needing to create driver update disks for some device drivers that we have in development. I also need to know how to use them. Can anyone please provide me with a pointer on where I can get instructions

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 02:03:09AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: A Debian account isn't that essential. I had packages in Debian for at least a year before I was invited to join the project. The additional 11 months I waited in the NM queue didn't stop me doing useful work. you seem to be

Bug#320918: ITP: clex -- CLEX is a file manager with a full-screen user interface.

2005-08-02 Thread r00t
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: r00t [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: clex Version : 3.12 Upstream Author : Gabriel Puliatti (predius) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.predius.org/ * License : GPL Description : CLEX is a file manager with a

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Andreas Barth
* Nigel Jones ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050802 05:31]: Also: say that if an AM/DAM does not process x applications a month (reasonably fair amount (say 5) and allow for vaccations/sickness etc) then they may face removal I don't know if you've every worked as AM, but if you have other duties in

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 03:31:36PM +1200, Nigel Jones wrote: Also: say that if an AM/DAM does not process x applications a month (reasonably fair amount (say 5) and allow for vaccations/sickness etc) then they may face removal, as Yaroslav Halchenko said,

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Nigel Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Personally I think get a couple of active developers that have been around a little while that maintain a few packages and get them into the AM role, and move some of the AMs into a DAM role... Right, because these people normally have loads of time to

Bug#320931: ITP: lttoolbox -- Apertium lexical processing modules and tools

2005-08-02 Thread Sergio Talens-Oliag
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sergio Talens-Oliag [EMAIL PROTECTED] Package name: lttoolbox Version : 0.8.0 Upstream Author : Universitat d'Alacant URL : http://apertium.sourceforge.net/ License : GPL Description : Apertium lexical

Bug#320930: ITP: apertium -- Machine translation engine for related languages

2005-08-02 Thread Sergio Talens-Oliag
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sergio Talens-Oliag [EMAIL PROTECTED] Package name: apertium Version : 0.8.1 Upstream Author : Universitat d'Alacant URL : http://apertium.sourceforge.net/ License : GPL Description : Machine translation

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 10:28:08AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: on 5 applicants per month. And, BTW, is it not our problem to have too Well, I can just say such AMs a big Thank you :-) few AMs and you propose reducing their numbers even more? Even an AM Now I'm not sure exactly how hard an

Bug#320934: ITP: apertium-es-ca -- Apertium linguistic data to translate between Spanish and Catalan

2005-08-02 Thread Sergio Talens-Oliag
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sergio Talens-Oliag [EMAIL PROTECTED] Package name : apertium-es-ca Version : 20050729 Upstream Authors : Universitat d'Alacant, Universitat Politècnica de Catalunya URL : http://apertium.sourceforge.net/ License

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Yaroslav Halchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 10:28:08AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: Now I'm not sure exactly how hard an AM's work is Yes, one could see that. So, Andreas is making the point that it is good to keep silent AMs on the list with hope that some of them can

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Then I would say it might make sense to send an announcement to any DD with experience over X month and Y packages maintained if they want to be just considered for AM process. Right, because *new* developers have no idea about the NM process and just need the reminder that it exists to

Bug#320939: ITP: blosxom-plugins -- various plugins for the blosxom blog tool

2005-08-02 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Gerfried Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: blosxom-plugins Version : 0.5 (propably) Upstream Author : Various * URL : http://www.blosxom.com/plugins/ * License : GPL, BSD, ... Description : various plugins

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Tue, August 2, 2005 10:28, Andreas Barth wrote: And, BTW, is it not our problem to have too few AMs While I can agree that there are too few AMs, the whole process itself seems pretty bureaucratic with room for improvement. Once you've completed the AM stage, this still has to happen: - AM

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Yaroslav Halchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then I would say it might make sense to send an announcement to any DD with experience over X month and Y packages maintained if they want to be just considered for AM process. Right, because *new* developers have no idea about the NM process and

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Andreas Barth
* Thijs Kinkhorst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050802 12:19]: And why is approval by DAM not equal to account creation? It seems to me that the account creation step could be fully automated: checking the box approved by DAM could trigger an insert into the LDAP database thereby creating the account.

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Thijs Kinkhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, August 2, 2005 10:28, Andreas Barth wrote: And, BTW, is it not our problem to have too few AMs While I can agree that there are too few AMs, the whole process itself seems pretty bureaucratic with room for improvement. Once you've completed

Re: Bug#320918: ITP: clex -- CLEX is a file manager with a full-screen user interface.

2005-08-02 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 01:59:48AM -0500, r00t wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: r00t [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could we have bugs from real names please? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Tue, August 2, 2005 13:11, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: - a good review by an existing developer (advocate) It would be nice if all advocates would actually check that the applicant is apt to become a developer: The high number of rejections (by the AM) shows that this doesn't work. This

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Andreas Barth
* Thijs Kinkhorst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050802 13:41]: And even then, appearently the DAM works like this: I approve person X, let's check his box, but I'll add the account at some point later on (this takes weeks on average). When you check the box you might add the account aswell when you're

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Frederico Rodrigues Abraham
i tried once or twice to volunteer, but i failed... i don't remember why just my two cents -- Fred On 8/2/05, Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Thijs Kinkhorst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050802 13:41]: And even then, appearently the DAM works like this: I approve person X, let's check his

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Tue, August 2, 2005 13:44, Andreas Barth wrote: * Thijs Kinkhorst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050802 13:41]: And even then, appearently the DAM works like this: I approve person X, let's check his box, but I'll add the account at some point later on (this takes weeks on average). When you check

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Ter, 2005-08-02 às 04:46 -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko escreveu: Then I have a better idea... It seems to me that any DD-professional is capable of performing AM duties, isn't it? Then I would say it might make sense to send an announcement to any DD with experience over X month and Y

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Tomas Fasth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Barth skrev: * Thijs Kinkhorst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050802 13:41]: And even then, appearently the DAM works like this: I approve person X, let's check his box, but I'll add the account at some point later on (this takes weeks on average).

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: Indeed to do THE WORK it is not necessary to be a DD. It is just that for upload of packages into debian non-DD needs to interact with a sponsor. Also administrativa like voting can't be done by non-DD. Besides that I don't see any difficulties as to do packaging and

Re: Bug#320918: ITP: clex -- CLEX is a file manager with a full-screen user interface.

2005-08-02 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 01:59:48AM -0500, r00t wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: r00t [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could we have bugs from real names please? The ITP submitter did actually include his name in the original message -- as the upstream author:

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Andrew Suffield
It's a pretty theory but it fails to account for reality. On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 12:18:08PM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: On Tue, August 2, 2005 10:28, Andreas Barth wrote: And, BTW, is it not our problem to have too few AMs While I can agree that there are too few AMs, the whole process

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Andrew Suffield] AMs aren't much better, as a group. The FD checks their applications so as not to waste the DAM's time reviewing bogus ones, and the DAM checks them to filter out people who shouldn't get in. The reason why we need both these checks is most simply explained by pointing out

Bug#320967: ITP: kaya -- A Statically typed, imperative programming language

2005-08-02 Thread Stuart Teasdale
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stuart Teasdale [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: kaya Version : 0.1.24 Upstream Author : Edwin Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/kaya/ * License : GPL Description : A Statically typed,

RE: I need to know how to create and use Driver Update Disks

2005-08-02 Thread Allyn, MarkX A
Thank you Rob. Here is the situation that I have: We have some patches that have already be open sourced (ICH7) and are in the 2.6.11 and above kernels. What we need to do is to provide a Driver Update Disk so that someone who is using the 2.6.8 kernel supplied by the stable release (Sarge)

Re: I need to know how to create and use Driver Update Disks

2005-08-02 Thread Rob Taylor
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 13:51 -0700, Allyn, MarkX A wrote: Hello: I will be needing to create driver update disks for some device drivers that we have in development. I also need to know how to use them. Can anyone please provide me with a pointer on where I can get instructions on

Re: I need to know how to create and use Driver Update Disks

2005-08-02 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 02 August 2005 17:35, Allyn, MarkX A wrote: We have some patches that have already be open sourced (ICH7) and are in the 2.6.11 and above kernels. What we need to do is to provide a Driver Update Disk so that someone who is using the 2.6.8 kernel supplied by the stable release

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [Andrew Suffield] AMs aren't much better, as a group. The FD checks their applications so as not to waste the DAM's time reviewing bogus ones, and the DAM checks them to filter out people who shouldn't get in. The reason why we need both these

Re: I need to know how to create and use Driver Update Disks

2005-08-02 Thread Rob Taylor
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 18:03 +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Tuesday 02 August 2005 17:35, Allyn, MarkX A wrote: We have some patches that have already be open sourced (ICH7) and are in the 2.6.11 and above kernels. What we need to do is to provide a Driver Update Disk so that someone who is

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 15:24 +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: The FD checks their applications so as not to waste the DAM's time reviewing bogus ones, and the DAM checks them to filter out people who shouldn't get in. Your statement rests on the assuption that somehow the DAM's time is more

ITP: conky -- Highly configurable system monitor that sits on your desktop

2005-08-02 Thread Bjarke Bolding
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Bjarke Bolding [EMAIL PROTECTED] Package name : conky Version : 1.2 Upstream Author : Brenden Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://conky.rty.ca/ License : GPL2 Description : Highly configurable system monitor that sits on your desktop Conky is a

net-tools maintenance status

2005-08-02 Thread Olaf van der Spek
Hi, What's the maintenance status of the net-tools package? It has 88 bugs: Serious policy violations - outstanding (1 bug) Important bugs - outstanding (8 bugs) Normal bugs - outstanding (38 bugs) Minor bugs - outstanding (9 bugs) Wishlist items - outstanding (32 bugs) A lot older than a

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 8/2/05, Thijs Kinkhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently a report passes through FD, then to DAM-not-authorised, and finally to DAM-authorised. What if these groups would be melted into one, and each member could take an incoming application, review it, and either reject or approve the

Re: How to use svn(-buildpackage) with pbuilder?

2005-08-02 Thread W. Borgert
On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 07:03:14AM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: borrowed from a nice minimalistic HOWTO http://workaround.org/moin/SvnBuildpackage That is indeed a very helpful HOWTO. Thanks! 3 and 5 just add them to --svn-postbuild as IT IS SAID IN THE MAN PAGE: :-) OK, thanks. One

Re: How to use svn(-buildpackage) with pbuilder?

2005-08-02 Thread Clément Stenac
Hello, If I have the complete upstream source in SVN, but not the .tar.gz, how do I create the .orig.tar.gz, when I have a new upstream version? Use svn export to create a dist of the svn tree, without the control folders. Regards, -- Clément -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Packages descriptions review

2005-08-02 Thread Clément Stenac
Hello, Sorry for not answering earlier. OK, I've summarized all (I think) of Policy's requirements on packages in the wiki page, together with a cite to the section it came from. Thanks Also, I've completed news, and would appreciate any feedback. Please see the webpage for comments ...

jigdo-search

2005-08-02 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
Hello. After last talk about searching for packages on CDs Gaëtan Frenoy wrote some shell script along with PHP script for such purposes and sent me it todays morning. I made some modifications to it (support for DVDs and get rid of some temporary files), and it's now at my people.d.o page[1].

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 8/2/05, Thijs Kinkhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently a report passes through FD, then to DAM-not-authorised, and finally to DAM-authorised. What if these groups would be melted into one, and each member could take an incoming application,

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 04:36:28PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Do you have any good arguments why it isn't the other way around, that some of the rejections get rid of people which could have done a great job as a debian developer? How about 'not second guessing people without cause'?

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Andrew Suffield] How about 'not second guessing people without cause'? Sounds like a good idea. I am not sure how this comment is connected to the message you replied to. I tried to avoid second guessing you, by asking the following question: You seem to assume that all rejections are

Re: jigdo-search

2005-08-02 Thread Jonas Meurer
On 02/08/2005 Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: After last talk about searching for packages on CDs Gaëtan Frenoy wrote some shell script along with PHP script for such purposes and sent me it todays morning. I made some modifications to it (support for DVDs and get rid of some temporary

Re: How to use svn(-buildpackage) with pbuilder?

2005-08-02 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
If I have the complete upstream source in SVN, but not the .tar.gz, how do I create the .orig.tar.gz, when I have a new upstream version? Look down the thread -- your question was answered: Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 16:03:03 +0200 From: Arjan Oosting [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Steve Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please check your Debian E-Mail.

2005-08-02 Thread Greg Folkert
I was finally able to acquire an SSP Build Host for you. If you are still interest. Please contact me. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] For technology that is Strong, Better, Faster: Linux signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Bug#321009: ITP: liblocale-ruby -- extension to the Ruby intepreter for supporting locales

2005-08-02 Thread Antonio S. de A. Terceiro
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Antonio S. de A. Terceiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: liblocale-ruby Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Rob Blackbourn [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/ruby-locale * License : GPL Description

Re: How to use svn(-buildpackage) with pbuilder?

2005-08-02 Thread Arjan Oosting
Op di, 02-08-2005 te 17:50 +, schreef W. Borgert: On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 07:03:14AM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: borrowed from a nice minimalistic HOWTO http://workaround.org/moin/SvnBuildpackage That is indeed a very helpful HOWTO. Thanks! 3 and 5 just add them to

RE: I need to know how to create and use Driver Update Disks

2005-08-02 Thread Allyn, MarkX A
-Original Message- From: Rob Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 10:13 AM To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: I need to know how to create and use Driver Update Disks The Debian package system does not really like packages (your driver update)

Re: RFC: allow new upstream into stable when it's the only way tofix security issues.

2005-08-02 Thread Joe Smith
How about if it meets the folowing critieria: 1. it has been in testing for 10 days (been in sid at least 20 days) 2. the version is sid is the same as in testing (the maintainer has not found problems in the ten days since it entered testing) 3. and has no RC bugs (no rc bugs reported in the

Re: net-tools maintenance status

2005-08-02 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 07:45:12PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: What's the maintenance status of the net-tools package? It is maintained. Patches are welcome. http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/net-tools.html Which patch are you talking about? Greetings Bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL

Bug#321022: ITP: msort -- utility for sorting records in complex ways

2005-08-02 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: msort Version : 8.4 Upstream Author : William J. Poser [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL :

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 09:35:24PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Andrew Suffield] How about 'not second guessing people without cause'? Sounds like a good idea. I am not sure how this comment is connected to the message you replied to. It was an answer to the quoted question. I

Re: I need to know how to create and use Driver Update Disks

2005-08-02 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 02 August 2005 23:03, Allyn, MarkX A wrote: Right now, I am doing tests to determine if the 2.6.11 kernel that I have found in Etch is capable of accessing the ICH7 devices in our equipment. If it doesn't, then I plan to come up with a patch for the 2.6.11 kernel in Etch for the

Re: net-tools maintenance status

2005-08-02 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 8/2/05, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 07:45:12PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: What's the maintenance status of the net-tools package? It is maintained. Patches are welcome. http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/net-tools.html Which patch are you

Bruce Perens hosts party at OSCON Wednesday night

2005-08-02 Thread Bruce Perens
For those of you who are at OSCON, Wednesday night I'm hosting a recruiting party for Sourcelabs. If you bring your resume I'll buy you drinks and some food. Date: Wednesday, August 3 Time: 8:30-10:30pm Place: Kells Irish Restaurant Pub, Ulster Room, 2nd Floor 112 SW 2nd Ave., Portland, Oregon

Re: RFC: allow new upstream into stable when it's the only way tofix security issues.

2005-08-02 Thread Philipp Kern
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 17:19 -0400, Joe Smith wrote: I think the no new upstream versions is stable rule needs to be more flexible anyway. I have seen times where EVERY SINGLE change except for the version number have been backported. That is often the case where the new release consists of

mass bug filing on packages that are blocking use of cdebconf

2005-08-02 Thread Joey Hess
I intend to eventually file bugs on packages in Debian which depend on debconf without an alternate of debconf-2.0, as all of these make it impossible to install cdebconf, which we would eventually like to replace debconf. debconf-2.0 was added to policy as a virtual package in 2002 and has been

Re: mass bug filing on packages that are blocking use of cdebconf

2005-08-02 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 06:46:20PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] apt-listchanges cricket flac I have no idea how or why flac ended up with a debconf dependency; it doesn't use it. I've removed it in CVS for my next upload; no bug is necessary. -- - mdz

Re: Bruce Perens hosts party at OSCON Wednesday night

2005-08-02 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Bruce Perens wrote: For those of you who are at OSCON, Wednesday night I'm hosting a recruiting party for Sourcelabs. If you bring your resume I'll buy you drinks and some food. Date: Wednesday, August 3 Time: 8:30-10:30pm Place: Kells Irish Restaurant Pub, Ulster

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 03:01:39PM +0200, Tomas Fasth wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Barth skrev: * Thijs Kinkhorst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050802 13:41]: And even then, appearently the DAM works like this: I approve person X, let's check his box, but I'll add

Re: Bruce Perens hosts party at OSCON Wednesday night

2005-08-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 06:32:44PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Bruce Perens wrote: For those of you who are at OSCON, Wednesday night I'm hosting a recruiting party for Sourcelabs. If you bring your resume I'll buy you drinks and some food. Date: Wednesday, August 3

Re: Bruce Perens hosts party at OSCON Wednesday night

2005-08-02 Thread Bruce Perens
Oh my goodness, Adam. If I wanted to advertise, I'd ask the DPL for some freebies. I must merit them by now. The fact is, some people there might really want to see me. Some of them are even my friends. And it happens that I have to be at this party for work, and my employer will pay for anyone

Re: Bruce Perens hosts party at OSCON Wednesday night

2005-08-02 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Bruce Perens wrote: Oh my goodness, Adam. If I wanted to advertise, I'd ask the DPL for some freebies. I must merit them by now. If you had just said that you were hosting a dinner, that'd be one thing. But you solicted resumes. That's what pushed it into UCE land. --

Re: Bruce Perens hosts party at OSCON Wednesday night

2005-08-02 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 06:32:44PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Bruce Perens wrote: For those of you who are at OSCON, Wednesday night I'm hosting a recruiting party for Sourcelabs. If you bring your resume I'll buy you drinks

Re: I need to know how to create and use Driver Update Disks

2005-08-02 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tuesday 02 August 2005 09:03 am, Frans Pop wrote: The Debian package system does not really like packages (your driver update) replacing files that belong to another package (the official Debian kernel-image package). This means the best option would be to get the patches included in an

Re: Bruce Perens hosts party at OSCON Wednesday night

2005-08-02 Thread Miles Bader
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 06:32:44PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: Unsolicited Commercial Email. Please pay the standard $2000 fee for advertisments on Debian mailing lists. claiming that a message that isn't selling anything is UCE, and attempting to

Re: Bruce Perens hosts party at OSCON Wednesday night

2005-08-02 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Tuesday 02 August 2005 18:13, Bruce Perens wrote: Oh my goodness, Adam. If I wanted to advertise, I'd ask the DPL for some freebies. I must merit them by now. The fact is, some people there might really want to see me. Some of them are even my friends. And it happens that I have to be at

Re: Bruce Perens hosts party at OSCON Wednesday night

2005-08-02 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 8/2/05, Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unsolicited Commercial Email. Please pay the standard $2000 fee for advertisments on Debian mailing lists. Adam, I'm kind of curious what you mean by that. What, if any, actual or proposed statutory standard for UCE did you have in mind when you

Re: Usability: Technical details in package descriptions?

2005-08-02 Thread Dustin Harriman
Hi all, Debtags shows great promise in covering the technical aspect of describing Debian packages. Debtags do a better job than Package Descriptions when it comes to precisely describing a package in a highly-technical, highly-searchable format (that is fully geek compliant). Wouldn't it

Accepted aptitude 0.2.15.9-5 (source all i386)

2005-08-02 Thread Daniel Burrows
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 18:17:18 -0700 Source: aptitude Binary: aptitude-doc-cs aptitude-doc-fr aptitude-doc-en aptitude Architecture: source all i386 Version: 0.2.15.9-5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Daniel Burrows [EMAIL

Accepted aspell 0.60.3-5 (source all i386)

2005-08-02 Thread Brian Nelson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 23:56:49 -0700 Source: aspell Binary: libpspell-dev libaspell15c2 libaspell15 aspell libaspell-dev aspell-doc Architecture: source all i386 Version: 0.60.3-5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Brian

Accepted synaesthesia 2.3-2 (source i386)

2005-08-02 Thread Devin Carraway
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 00:01:01 -0700 Source: synaesthesia Binary: synaesthesia Architecture: source i386 Version: 2.3-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Devin Carraway [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Devin Carraway [EMAIL

Accepted mozilla-thunderbird 1.0.6-3 (source i386)

2005-08-02 Thread Alexander Sack
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2005 17:00:00 +0100 Source: mozilla-thunderbird Binary: mozilla-thunderbird-dev mozilla-thunderbird-inspector mozilla-thunderbird mozilla-thunderbird-typeaheadfind mozilla-thunderbird-offline Architecture: source i386

Accepted efax-gtk 3.0.3-1 (source i386)

2005-08-02 Thread Lior Kaplan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 00:01:20 +0300 Source: efax-gtk Binary: efax-gtk Architecture: source i386 Version: 3.0.3-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Lior Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Lior Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted baobab 1.0.1-3 (source i386)

2005-08-02 Thread Fabio Marzocca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2005 10:52:45 +0200 Source: baobab Binary: baobab Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.0.1-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Fabio Marzocca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Fabio Marzocca [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted adesklets 0.4.10-2 (source i386)

2005-08-02 Thread Bartosz Fenski
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 10:03:53 +0200 Source: adesklets Binary: adesklets Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.4.10-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Bartosz Fenski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Bartosz Fenski [EMAIL

Accepted glibmm2.4 2.6.1-1.2 (source i386)

2005-08-02 Thread Matthias Klose
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 10:04:58 +0200 Source: glibmm2.4 Binary: libglibmm-2.4-dev libglibmm-2.4-1c2 Architecture: source i386 Version: 2.6.1-1.2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Bradley Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By:

Accepted gtkmm2.0 2.2.12-1.3 (source all i386)

2005-08-02 Thread Matthias Klose
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 09:42:00 +0200 Source: gtkmm2.0 Binary: libgtkmm2.0-doc libgtkmm2.0-dev libgtkmm2.0-1c2 Architecture: source all i386 Version: 2.2.12-1.3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Bradley Bell [EMAIL

Accepted kaffe 2:1.1.5-4 (source all powerpc)

2005-08-02 Thread Wolfgang Baer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 13:32:59 +0200 Source: kaffe Binary: kaffe-dev kaffe-common jikes-kaffe kaffe-pthreads-profile kaffe-pthreads kaffe kaffe-doc kaffe-jthreads Architecture: source all powerpc Version: 2:1.1.5-4 Distribution: unstable

Accepted openoffice.org 1.1.4-5 (source all i386)

2005-08-02 Thread Rene Engelhard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 11:48:00 +0200 Source: openoffice.org Binary: openoffice.org-l10n-el openoffice.org-l10n-en openoffice.org-l10n-ja openoffice.org-l10n-zu openoffice.org-l10n-fr openoffice.org-l10n-zh-cn openoffice.org-l10n-pt-br

Accepted sbcl 1:0.9.3.0-1 (source i386 all)

2005-08-02 Thread Peter Van Eynde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:36:30 +0200 Source: sbcl Binary: sbcl sbcl-common Architecture: source i386 all Version: 1:0.9.3.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Van Eynde

Accepted cmucl 19b-release-20050726-1 (source all i386)

2005-08-02 Thread Peter Van Eynde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 22:26:40 +0200 Source: cmucl Binary: cmucl cmucl-source cmucl-clm cmucl-docs Architecture: source all i386 Version: 19b-release-20050726-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL

Accepted cl-split-sequence 20050802-1 (source all)

2005-08-02 Thread Peter Van Eynde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 05:30:55 +0200 Source: cl-split-sequence Binary: cl-split-sequence Architecture: source all Version: 20050802-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Van

Accepted cl-salza 0.7.2-1 (source all)

2005-08-02 Thread Peter Van Eynde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 15:04:16 +0200 Source: cl-salza Binary: cl-salza Architecture: source all Version: 0.7.2-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL

Accepted cl-port 20050624-1 (source all)

2005-08-02 Thread Peter Van Eynde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 07:51:41 +0200 Source: cl-port Binary: cl-port Architecture: source all Version: 20050624-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL

Accepted cl-aima 20020509-1 (source all)

2005-08-02 Thread Peter Van Eynde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 07:51:15 +0200 Source: cl-aima Binary: cl-aima Architecture: source all Version: 20020509-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL

Accepted cl-cil 1:20050701-1 (source all)

2005-08-02 Thread Peter Van Eynde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 10:04:33 +0200 Source: cl-cil Binary: cl-cil Architecture: source all Version: 1:20050701-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL

Accepted cl-ansi-tests 20050704-1 (source all)

2005-08-02 Thread Peter Van Eynde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:45:09 +0200 Source: cl-ansi-tests Binary: cl-ansi-tests Architecture: source all Version: 20050704-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Van Eynde

Accepted cl-clue 20050523-1 (source all)

2005-08-02 Thread Peter Van Eynde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 07:51:18 +0200 Source: cl-clue Binary: cl-clue clue Architecture: source all Version: 20050523-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL

Accepted cl-csv 1.12-1 (source all)

2005-08-02 Thread Peter Van Eynde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 10:05:01 +0200 Source: cl-csv Binary: cl-csv Architecture: source all Version: 1.12-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted cl-environment 1.12 (source all)

2005-08-02 Thread Peter Van Eynde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:31:11 +0200 Source: cl-environment Binary: cl-environment Architecture: source all Version: 1.12 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL

Accepted cl-f2cl 20050619-1 (source all)

2005-08-02 Thread Peter Van Eynde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 08:54:23 +0200 Source: cl-f2cl Binary: cl-f2cl Architecture: source all Version: 20050619-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL

Accepted cl-defsystem3 3.5i+2005.07.01-1 (source all)

2005-08-02 Thread Peter Van Eynde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 23:43:23 +0200 Source: cl-defsystem3 Binary: cl-defsystem3 Architecture: source all Version: 3.5i+2005.07.01-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Van

Accepted cl-html-template 0.3.0-1 (source all)

2005-08-02 Thread Peter Van Eynde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 07:51:21 +0200 Source: cl-html-template Binary: cl-html-template Architecture: source all Version: 0.3.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Peter Van Eynde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Peter Van Eynde

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