Work-needing packages report for Mar 10, 2006

2006-03-09 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 228 (new: 1) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 90 (new: 3) Total number of packages requeste

"but ./configure makes it look so easy", or why cross compiling isn't always trivial

2006-03-09 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Peter Kourzanov] > For most of the packages, what is so different in cross-compilation > in comparison to native? Whether or not 'configure' believes it can use tests of the form "try compiling and running this little program to see what it does". If it is cross-compiling, it is forced to skip

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Christian Perrier
> If I were a crazier man I would say something like: > >"The end is neigh!" > > It is a dark, dark day for Debian, indeed. Death of Debian predicted. Film at 11. Believe it or not, but Joey's resign could actually be more a Good Thing than a bad thing. Seeing renewal and new blood come i

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] volunteers?

2006-03-09 Thread Fabian Fagerholm
On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 21:04 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > I am not sure that it will help, but it will probably not hurt either... > And it does not need to be official: just setup an email address and > start signing up voluntaries. Don't do this, please. A mediator or counsellor needs to be chose

Re: Adding dependencies to e2fsprogs: libdevmapperr, libselinux and libsepoll

2006-03-09 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Steve Langasek] > You could also do, e.g.: > > Build-Depends: [...] libselinux1-dev [alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k > mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc linux-any] Build-Depends: [...] libselinux1-dev [!hurd-i386 !kfreebsd-i386] When other non-linux ports run into a FTBFS, you add them. Si

Bug#356165: ITP: lsb-utils -- LSB development tools

2006-03-09 Thread Stuart Anderson
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stuart Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: lsb-* Version : x.y.z Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.linuxbase.org/ * License : GPL Description : LSB development tools This is actu

Re: Adding dependencies to e2fsprogs: libdevmapperr, libselinux and libsepoll

2006-03-09 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-09 18:46]: > Build-Depends: [...] libselinux1-dev [alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k > mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc linux-any] Yes, that's the way to go for now. But please add "armeb" too. -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNS

Re: Adding dependencies to e2fsprogs: libdevmapperr, libselinux and libsepoll

2006-03-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 09:39:22PM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 01:54:16PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > List the linux platforms. It is more likely some new non-linux > > > > platform shows up (like armeb, kfreebsd-amd64, ...) than a new linux > > > > one. > > > Th

Re: Adding dependencies to e2fsprogs: libdevmapperr, libselinux and libsepoll

2006-03-09 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 01:54:16PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > List the linux platforms. It is more likely some new non-linux > > > platform shows up (like armeb, kfreebsd-amd64, ...) than a new linux > > > one. > > > That's. unspeakably horrible. > > > What we really need is a separat

Re: cross-compiling Debian packages

2006-03-09 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
> I have devoted some time cross-compiling a number of essential packages, > with glibc-based, > uclibc-based and dietlibc-based ARM and MIPS toolchains and found all of > that not a huge > problem at all, given that "debian/rules" is provisioned with proper > calls to --host (as described > by the

Re: [Pbuilder-maint] A bit of experience after having updated some packages to use pbuilder-test testsuite engine.

2006-03-09 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, I've blogged about it, but I'll re-post to the list for easier commenting. http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/diary/daily/2006-Mar-4.html.en#2006-Mar-4-23:12:11 While I was reviewing Debian Weekly News translations, I noticed there was autopkgtest. Nice to see something that emerging to be ava

Re: Processed: block 322762 with 355341

2006-03-09 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006, Brian May wrote: > Two more questions. > > 1. according to the above, bug 355341 was added to the block list of > 322762. If I go to http://bugs.debian.org/322762>, there is a list of > blocking bugs at the top: > > --- cut --- > ix blocked by #189856: /usr/doc/libruby still

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 10:18:22PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > I haven't answered the question because it wasn't one. You are > implicitly answering it the line after, and I already know we disagree > on this matter. Let me rephrase: 'Who exactly are the candidates claiming there are no probl

Re: Re: Re: Implicition declarations of functions and bugs

2006-03-09 Thread Samuel . Thibault
Hi, Ah, good. But your script misses some warnings: oss.c:83: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'strdu because of "incompatible" and "built-in". Please fix ;) Regards, Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: Processed: block 322762 with 355341

2006-03-09 Thread Brian May
> "Don" == Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > > # Automatically generated email from bts, devscripts >> version 2.9.15 > > block 322762 with 355341 > Bug#322762: >> /usr/doc still exists (transition tracking bug) > Was blocked >> by: 189856 190020 203278 254800 2549

Re: lists.d.o Spam (was: Marking BTS spam)

2006-03-09 Thread Cord Beermann
Hallo! Du (Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a) hast geschrieben: >Well. I have reported "through the button" in the past months spam for three >different mailing lists (debian-doc, debian-l10n-spanish, and >debian-devel-spanish) and I *still* see the reported spam there [1]. So I'm a >little bit skep

Re: ./configure in debian/rules

2006-03-09 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 9. März 2006 23:32 schrieb Steve Langasek: > Um, the native target for Debian systems is i486-linux-gnu, not > i686-linux-gnu -- the symlink i486-linux-gnu-gcc-4.0 *does* exist. If > you're using anything other than i486-linux-gnu as your host string for a > Debian package, then asi

Re: Adding dependencies to e2fsprogs: libdevmapperr, libselinux and libsepoll

2006-03-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 12:50:36PM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 04:38:27PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> > > Actually, because of the e2fsck-static package, e2fsprogs has to have >> > > a build-depends on libselinux. T

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 01:30:39PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > You should take irony supplements to replenish the irony lost to mailing > lists. I think it'd be better if you could replenish the lost irony with goldy or silvery. Looks much nicer... -- Fun will now commence -- Seven Of Nine

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 07:05:24PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 09 mars 2006 à 16:39 +0100, Amaya a écrit : > > > but when will we try to solve some of the real problems we have > > > > Hey! It's DPL election time! Lobby around. I really am biting my tongue, > > but you don't have to.

Re: ./configure in debian/rules

2006-03-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 07:14:58PM +0100, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 9. März 2006 03:12 schrieb Russ Allbery: > > Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I'm one of the people who actually helped design the GNU Makefile and > > > configure standards, and --host does not "

Re: Adding dependencies to e2fsprogs: libdevmapperr, libselinux and libsepoll

2006-03-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 04:38:27PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> List the linux platforms. It is more likely some new non-linux >> platform shows up (like armeb, > > Armeb isn't exactly a good example of that, it being based on a Big > Endian A

Re: For those who care about stable updates (update)

2006-03-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi! > > As you all probably already know, Martin 'Joey' Schulze stepped down as > Stable Release Manager[1]. At this point, we would like to thank him for > his hard work for the last five years. > > To continue the service of stable point releases

Re: Adding dependencies to e2fsprogs: libdevmapperr, libselinux and libsepoll

2006-03-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 12:50:36PM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 04:38:27PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > Actually, because of the e2fsck-static package, e2fsprogs has to have > > > a build-depends on libselinux. There doesn't seem to be a way to say, > > > "exce

Re: ./configure in debian/rules

2006-03-09 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 9. März 2006 22:26 schrieb Peter Kourzanov: > ship with symbolic links, e.g. > > >gcc -> gcc-4.0 -> i686-linux-gcc-4.0 > >   > > Which it already does:-) The other direction but your are right :) I looked for i686-linux-gcc when in fact it is i486-linux-gcc. HS -- Mein GPG-Key is

Re: ./configure in debian/rules

2006-03-09 Thread Peter Kourzanov
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Thu, 09 Mar 2006, Hendrik Sattler wrote: `--host=HOST-TYPE' the type of system on which the package will run. By default it is the same as the build machine. Specifying it enables the cross-compilation mode. That's insane. However, i

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Andreas Barth
* Lars Wirzenius ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060309 19:56]: > That reminds me of something I meant to propose some time ago: someone > with a bit of time on their hands could make a wiki page, > DplPromises2006 say, and list all the promises of all the candidates. > Then, during the next year, we can keep

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Andreas Barth
* Daniel Stone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060309 19:53]: > Please point me to a candidate who is claiming that 'there is no problem > and that we should all be friends'. krooger. Sorry, couldn't resist. :) Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PRO

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 07:21:20PM +0100, Amaya wrote: > Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Who are you going to lobby? The candidates who are playing an active > > role in "the problem", or the ones who are just claiming there is no > > problem and that we should all be friends? > This year the candidat

Re: ./configure in debian/rules

2006-03-09 Thread Russ Allbery
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> That's the old way. Autoconf changed this in the current releases. >> Now, specifying --host signals that you're cross-compiling, whether it >> disagrees or not. >> Yes, this was not a backward compatib

Re: ./configure in debian/rules

2006-03-09 Thread Peter Kourzanov
Hendrik Sattler wrote: Am Donnerstag, 9. März 2006 03:12 schrieb Russ Allbery: Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I'm one of the people who actually helped design the GNU Makefile and configure standards, and --host does not "signal that you're cross-compiling." What sign

cross-compiling Debian packages

2006-03-09 Thread Peter Kourzanov
Hi everyone! To continue the "./configure in debian/rules" thread... Can anyone tell me what is the factual difference between a cross- and a native-build? I am aware only of an obvious limitation that a cross package build system can not rely on the cross-compiled binaries generated in the pr

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 09 mars 2006 à 22:44 +0200, Daniel Stone a écrit : > On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 08:06:33PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le jeudi 09 mars 2006 à 20:49 +0200, Daniel Stone a écrit : > > > I think you'll find what they're saying is, 'don't be an idiot on > > > mailing lists'. And here you

Re: ./configure in debian/rules

2006-03-09 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I'm one of the people who actually helped design the GNU Makefile and >> configure standards, and --host does not "signal that you're >> cross-compiling." What signals that you are cross-compiling is a

Re: Adding dependencies to e2fsprogs: libdevmapperr, libselinux and libsepoll

2006-03-09 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 04:38:27PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Theodore Ts'o <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 11:07:24PM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: > >> > >> [Michael Banck] > >> > Please take into consideration that libselinux is not available on > >> > Debia

Re: Adding dependencies to e2fsprogs: libdevmapperr, libselinux and libsepoll

2006-03-09 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 12:50:36PM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 04:38:27PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > List the linux platforms. It is more likely some new non-linux > > platform shows up (like armeb, kfreebsd-amd64, ...) than a new linux > > one. > > That's

Re: ./configure in debian/rules

2006-03-09 Thread Peter Kourzanov
Russ Allbery wrote: Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I'm one of the people who actually helped design the GNU Makefile and configure standards, and --host does not "signal that you're cross-compiling." What signals that you are cross-compiling is a disagreement between --hos

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 08:06:33PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 09 mars 2006 à 20:49 +0200, Daniel Stone a écrit : > > I think you'll find what they're saying is, 'don't be an idiot on > > mailing lists'. And here you are, being an idiot on a mailing list, > > which is pretty fitting,

Re: white listing spam en/on debian devel

2006-03-09 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 9. März 2006 19:51 schrieb Jason Clinton: > Por favor, quiero que paré mandando mensajes para confirmação a los > gentes que estan mandando a la lista. > - > Hi, > > Please, I would appreciate it if you would stop

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Jason Clinton may or may not have written... > On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 19:05 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: >> Who are you going to lobby? The candidates who are playing an active role >> in "the problem", or the ones who are just claiming there is no problem >> and that we should all

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Andreas Tille may or may not have written... > On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, Gustavo Franco wrote: >> What's wrong with us ? > It is wrong that somebody who would like to work is stopped to do his work > by others. You mean "stopped from doing". (Common non-native mistake...) -- | Darren S

Re: ./configure in debian/rules

2006-03-09 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 9. März 2006 20:17 schrieb Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: > Or do you want to do this to avoid an ifeq..endif block in debian/rules > files that are currently required to detect if --host should be issued to > configure ? Personally just because I don't like the currently different na

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] volunteers?

2006-03-09 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Mar 09, Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We need a mediator - an official delegate who is responsible for finding > a solution for personal/communication problems. I know that we often map > our personal problems to technical problems, but there is also too much > pride and sometimes a

Re: New Webmaster Needed

2006-03-09 Thread David Skinner
Hello, I saw the job posting for www.debian.org And I am interested. Please let me know if the position is still open! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ./configure in debian/rules

2006-03-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 09 Mar 2006, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > > `--host=HOST-TYPE' > > the type of system on which the package will run. By default it > > is the same as the build machine. Specifying it enables the > > cross-compilation mode. > > That's insane. However, it doen't say anything abo

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 3/9/06, Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > to, 2006-03-09 kello 19:21 +0100, Amaya kirjoitti: > > 1 - lobby (all of them) > > 2 - get promises in exchange of votes > > That reminds me of something I meant to propose some time ago: someone > with a bit of time on their hands could make a

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 09 mars 2006 à 20:49 +0200, Daniel Stone a écrit : > I think you'll find what they're saying is, 'don't be an idiot on > mailing lists'. And here you are, being an idiot on a mailing list, > which is pretty fitting, I guess. (But it is a problem.) If pointing at problems is idiot, I pre

Re: Adding dependencies to e2fsprogs: libdevmapperr, libselinux and libsepoll

2006-03-09 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Theodore Ts'o <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Actually, because of the e2fsck-static package, e2fsprogs has to have > a build-depends on libselinux. There doesn't seem to be a way to say, > "except on non-Linux platforms" for a build-depends as far as I know, > unfortunately. Any suggested solutio

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Lars Wirzenius
to, 2006-03-09 kello 19:21 +0100, Amaya kirjoitti: > 1 - lobby (all of them) > 2 - get promises in exchange of votes That reminds me of something I meant to propose some time ago: someone with a bit of time on their hands could make a wiki page, DplPromises2006 say, and list all the promises of a

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Jason Clinton
On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 20:49 +0200, Daniel Stone wrote: > I think you'll find what they're saying is, 'don't be an idiot on > mailing lists'. And here you are, being an idiot on a mailing list, > which is pretty fitting, I guess. (But it is a problem.) -1 name calling -1 hyperbole +1 semi-on-topi

white listing spam en/on debian devel

2006-03-09 Thread Jason Clinton
Hola, Por favor, quiero que paré mandando mensajes para confirmação a los gentes que estan mandando a la lista. - Hi, Please, I would appreciate it if you would stop stop sending messages for confirmation to the people who are se

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 07:05:24PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 09 mars 2006 à 16:39 +0100, Amaya a écrit : > > > but when will we try to solve some of the real problems we have > > > > Hey! It's DPL election time! Lobby around. I really am biting my tongue, > > but you don't have to.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] volunteers?

2006-03-09 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Florian Haas [Thu, Mar 09 2006, 06:31:42PM]: > That is fine and dandy, but how do you want to adress the underlying > problem of the work ? I may have watched too much Startrek in my youth since I this morning I have spontaneously got an idea while trying to understand the root of anot

Re: ./configure in debian/rules

2006-03-09 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 9. März 2006 03:12 schrieb Russ Allbery: > Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I'm one of the people who actually helped design the GNU Makefile and > > configure standards, and --host does not "signal that you're > > cross-compiling." What signals that you are cross

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 3/9/06, Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gustavo Franco wrote: > > hehe, i think you missed my joke first. > > Maybe, I just saw a GnR quote. > That's what i mean with the civil war thing, not a real war against anyone or a project. :-) -- stratus

Re: For those who care about stable updates (update)

2006-03-09 Thread Amaya
Florian Haas wrote: > Joey did not quit because he woke up this morning and didn't feel like > doing the work. Yes, that is an issue that really has to be discussed in a civil manner and in more depth. The issue I am refering to is, again, the fragile equilibrium between meritocracy and elected de

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 07:05:24PM +0100, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le jeudi 09 mars 2006 ? 16:39 +0100, Amaya a ?crit : > > > but when will we try to solve some of the real problems we have > > > > Hey! It's DPL election time! Lobby around. I really am biting my tongue, > > b

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Jason Clinton
On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 19:05 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Who are you going to lobby? The candidates who are playing an active > role in "the problem", or the ones who are just claiming there is no > problem and that we should all be friends? If I were a crazier man I would say something like:

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Amaya
Josselin Mouette wrote: > Who are you going to lobby? The candidates who are playing an active > role in "the problem", or the ones who are just claiming there is no > problem and that we should all be friends? This year the candidates are acting more like RL politicians than ever (IMVHO). So you.

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Amaya
Gustavo Franco wrote: > hehe, i think you missed my joke first. Maybe, I just saw a GnR quote. -- .''`. I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think : :' : I have ended up where I needed to be -- Douglas Adams `. `' Proudly running unstable Debian GNU/Linux `-

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 3/9/06, Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gustavo Franco wrote: > > Sure Amaya, "what we've got here is failure to communicate...". Btw, i > > hope we don't end in a civil war. :-) > > > Civil? Not as long as we focus on attacking Ubuntu > > hehe, i think you missed my joke first. -- stratu

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 09 mars 2006 à 16:39 +0100, Amaya a écrit : > > but when will we try to solve some of the real problems we have > > Hey! It's DPL election time! Lobby around. I really am biting my tongue, > but you don't have to. Who are you going to lobby? The candidates who are playing an active role

Re: For those who care about stable updates (update)

2006-03-09 Thread Otavio Salvador
Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > To continue the service of stable point releases to our users, Andreas > Barth and I took over the Stable Release Management. We will try to add > other people to our team, improving responsiveness and quality. What will the process to someone who

Re: Adding dependencies to e2fsprogs: libdevmapperr, libselinux and libsepoll

2006-03-09 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 04:38:27PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Actually, because of the e2fsck-static package, e2fsprogs has to have > > a build-depends on libselinux. There doesn't seem to be a way to say, > > "except on non-Linux platforms" for a build-depends as far as I know, > > un

Re: For those who care about stable updates (update)

2006-03-09 Thread Florian Haas
That is fine and dandy, but how do you want to adress the underlying problem of the work ? Joey did not quit because he woke up this morning and didn't feel like doing the work. On 3/9/06, Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi! > >

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Amaya
Gustavo Franco wrote: > Sure Amaya, "what we've got here is failure to communicate...". Btw, i > hope we don't end in a civil war. :-) Civil? Not as long as we focus on attacking Ubuntu -- .''`. I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think : :' : I have ended up where I needed

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 3/9/06, Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gustavo Franco wrote: > > I agree with you, i wasn't simple asking him to go back. My point was > > that if we just let somebody or a team take over that task the problem > > will still be there, maybe not all the problems but some of them. > > I am als

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Amaya
Gustavo Franco wrote: > I agree with you, i wasn't simple asking him to go back. My point was > that if we just let somebody or a team take over that task the problem > will still be there, maybe not all the problems but some of them. I am also worried that these issues continue to exist throughou

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 3/9/06, Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gustavo Franco wrote: > (...) > > Don't you care ? > > We do. But asking him to go back to doing something that was such a > source of pain? No way. > > (...) Hi Amaya, I agree with you, i wasn't simple asking him to go back. My point was that if we j

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Amaya
Andreas Tille wrote: > Ups, why are you biting your tongue? Because we all have our bit of fustration regarding this issue and I don't want to pour anger in email. For fear that I get expulsed :P No, seriously... This is being discussed in the debian-project mailing list right now, where it belon

Re: question for all candidates

2006-03-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 03:47:35PM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > Could these mails be required to have a valid GPG signature (either > for a key in a public keyserver or a DD key)? This would eliminate the > spam problem (almost) entirely. keyring-maint is the address for problems with your key --

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, Amaya wrote: Hey! It's DPL election time! Lobby around. I really am biting my tongue, but you don't have to. Ups, why are you biting your tongue? I say it loudly: I will vote highest for the candidate who seems to me most probable to solve this very problem. Kind regards

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Amaya
Gustavo Franco wrote: > it seems that the default reply is "ok Martin, see you, thanks.". Yes, we are very thankful for his time, dedication, and achievemnets. > It's volunteer work, he's free to do whatever he wants and spend his > time with more pleasant tasks, Exactly. > but when will we try

Re: Adding dependencies to e2fsprogs: libdevmapperr, libselinux and libsepoll

2006-03-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Theodore Ts'o <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 11:07:24PM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: >> >> [Michael Banck] >> > Please take into consideration that libselinux is not available on >> > Debian's non-Linux ports. >> >> It's not libselinux you should be worried about, but lib

Bug#356069: ITP: php-sqlite3 -- PHP bindings to SQLite version 3, a file-based SQL engine

2006-03-09 Thread Julien Danjou
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Julien Danjou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: php-sqlite3 Version : 0.4 Upstream Author : Bruno Fleisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://php-sqlite3.sourceforge.net * License : PHP Licence, version 3.0 Description

Re: Adding dependencies to e2fsprogs: libdevmapperr, libselinux and libsepoll

2006-03-09 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 11:07:24PM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [Michael Banck] > > Please take into consideration that libselinux is not available on > > Debian's non-Linux ports. > > It's not libselinux you should be worried about, but libdevmapper. > He's not depending on libselinux direc

[hardware-donation] Rackmountable 19" case(s) [Utrecht, NL]

2006-03-09 Thread Martin Michlmayr
Debian has been offered two 19" cases. They are located in Utrecht, NL. Does anyone have any use of them (that is Debian related)? > I've got two leftover 19" cases here including powersupply. One is 4U > and totally fine, the other is 2U and misses some part such that > PCI-cards can not be at

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, Gustavo Franco wrote: What's wrong with us ? It is wrong that somebody who would like to work is stopped to do his work by others. Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trou

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Christian Fromme
On 09.03. 10:38, Gustavo Franco wrote: > What's wrong with us ? I just read some messages with a "no Martin, > can we revert it?", it seems that the default reply is "ok Martin, see > you, thanks.". > > It's volunteer work, he's free to do whatever he wants and spend his > time with more pleasant

Re: question for all candidates

2006-03-09 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
[Moving this to -devel, please reply only there, this is not really voting related stuff. We are talking about things to improve keyring maintenance, for those not reading -vote.] Anthony Towns writes: > So first one was the spam problem, keyring-maint is a well-known address, > and mails that ar

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Daniel Leidert
Am Donnerstag, den 09.03.2006, 11:32 +0100 schrieb Martin Schulze: > I'm sorry to announce this but you'll have to find a new person who works > on updating Debian stable and who is willing to cope with black holes and > ftpmasters. It's a sad day for the Debian project and the situation must have

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Gustavo Franco
What's wrong with us ? I just read some messages with a "no Martin, can we revert it?", it seems that the default reply is "ok Martin, see you, thanks.". It's volunteer work, he's free to do whatever he wants and spend his time with more pleasant tasks, but when will we try to solve some of the re

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm sorry to announce this but you'll have to find a new person who works > on updating Debian stable and who is willing to cope with black holes and > ftpmasters. A black day for Debian. Thanks for all the work and time you've invested into this in t

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Otavio Salvador
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm sick of this entire situation. It makes me ill, angry and utterly > frustrated. It causes me being frustrated of Debian and unable to work on > other issues, needing a rest more often that planned. I should do better > with my limited life. Henc

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Christian Fromme
On 09.03. 12:21, Andreas Barth wrote: > > * Martin Schulze ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060309 11:37]: > > I'm sorry to announce this but you'll have to find a new person who works > > on updating Debian stable and who is willing to cope with black holes and > > ftpmasters. > > Martin, thank you very muc

Re: Fonts packages maintenance team (second) proposal

2006-03-09 Thread Christian Perrier
> > - a mailing list hosted on lists.debian.org > > where? I didn't see any... or is it in alioth? I didn't begin setting stuff up, except an Alioth project. I prefer seeing what directions the discussion about the proposal goes to, before setting things that could be misnamed/useless/whatever...

Gnome conflicts with etherconf (and d-i) configuring ethernet cards [?]

2006-03-09 Thread Paolo Pantaleo
So, this is my story: I installed a new Debian testing about a week ago. I have two network cards. I installed gdm and al the GNOME stuff. I configured the ethernet cards with etherconf and I had some problems (see 355425), but finally it seems that I configured the two ethernet cards (but the net

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Wolfgang Lonien
martin f krafft wrote: > LinuxTag won't ever be the same Seconded. > Debian's core infrastructure is in the hands > of very few people, who are often very busy. Right again. Joey is the first DD I met, and tho I saw (and heard) him on several occasions, I barely know him except from the excellen

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Niels Larsen
On Thursday 09 March 2006 11:32, Martin Schulze wrote: > I'm sorry to announce this but you'll have to find a new person who works > on updating Debian stable and who is willing to cope with black holes and > ftpmasters. > James Troup as ftpmaster rejected my recent request to become an.. Then

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.03.09.1132 +0100]: > I'm sick of being left in the void. I'm sick of ftpmasters not > answering mails from the stable release manager to negotiate > a timeline. I'm sick of ftpmasters suddenly creating arbitrary > preconditions for stable updat

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, * Martin Schulze ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060309 11:37]: > I'm sorry to announce this but you'll have to find a new person who works > on updating Debian stable and who is willing to cope with black holes and > ftpmasters. Martin, thank you very much for your great services you did as stable rele

Re: net-tools maintenance status

2006-03-09 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 1/6/06, Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thijs Kinkhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So I think you can tell pretty clearly that Bernd has no objection at all > > to NMU's. > > yes, but please not for wishlist bugs. Again: there are bugs open for > net-tools where help is requeste

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Mathieu Roy
Le Jeudi 9 Mars 2006 11:32, Martin Schulze a écrit : > I'm sorry to announce this but you'll have to find a new person who works > on updating Debian stable and who is willing to cope with black holes and > ftpmasters. > > I'm sick of being left in the void. I'm sick of ftpmasters not answering >

Re: debian version for kernel 2.6.0 ?

2006-03-09 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 03:45:07PM +0530, madhan raman wrote: > can i know which debian version released came with linux kernel 2.6.0... There was no release of Debian with kernel 2.6.0. Sarge has 2.6.8 kernel, etch have something much newer and it's not yet decided what will be released with it.

debian version for kernel 2.6.0 ?

2006-03-09 Thread madhan raman
hi,    can i know which debian version released came with linux kernel 2.6.0 also tell me where to obtain the release.. thanx. madhan

Re: Fonts packages maintenance team (second) proposal

2006-03-09 Thread Arne Götje (高盛華)
On Wednesday 08 March 2006 17:33, Christian Perrier wrote: > Improve communication > - > This team will, by the use of a mailing list, allow good > communication among font package maintainers. This can help all of us > to benefit from the experience of font experts, who are n

Re: ITH: silc-toolkit

2006-03-09 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 07:24:51PM -0500, Michael Schultheiss wrote: > I intend to hijack silc-toolkit. It has had three RC bugs open for 150+ > days and another RC bug open for almost a year and a half. > > On August 14, 2005 in > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, the current > maintainer, Tama

Re: Adding dependencies to e2fsprogs: libdevmapperr, libselinux and libsepoll

2006-03-09 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Theodore Ts'o] > Is there any objections to my uploading a new e2fsprogs package which > does this? I would say go for it. Are you aware of any problems with adding the dependency? Remember to make sure the priority of libdevmapper is increased. libselinux is already high enough, as several b