On Saturday 24 June 2006 14:35, Osamu Aoki wrote:
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For architecture: all *-doc packages, there is no technical and
practical reason to gzip *.pdf file. I agree. packages are gziped so
package size d nt change. We do it just because of policy and bcause
helper script is written such
* Preben Randhol [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-24 20:02]:
2. xpdf doesn't want to open gzipped pdfs by default which
makes this a pain in the **tt for people who want to read the
pdf.
There's zxpdf in the xpdf package, analogous to zless and zcat it
views gzipped files.
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:35:53 +0900
Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For architecture: all *-doc packages, there is no technical and
practical reason to gzip *.pdf file. I agree. packages are gziped so
package size d nt change. We do it just because of policy and bcause
helper script is
#include hallo.h
* Osamu Aoki [Sat, Jun 24 2006, 08:35:53PM]:
If one really really need to gzip, then make all applications in the
default Debian system able to handle gzipped files so there is no need
to unzip them to your local area and in fact use more space than
needed.
The point
#include hallo.h
* Martin Wuertele [Sun, Jun 25 2006, 08:09:57AM]:
Yes, but the problem is that many systems (firefox, rox-filer etc...)
file-roller does view pdf.gz and if e.g. firefox handels them incorrect
it should be fixed in there. We don't change policy when programs are
broken, we
* Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-25 10:18]:
* Martin Wuertele [Sun, Jun 25 2006, 08:09:57AM]:
file-roller does view pdf.gz and if e.g. firefox handels them incorrect
it should be fixed in there. We don't change policy when programs are
broken, we fix them.
What shitty kind of
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 05:30:59PM +0200, Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote:
Preben Randhol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My point is that if I choose to install a doc packages I intend to use
it frequently and would therefore like that it is user friendly rather
than that one has squeezed
* Quoting Graham Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 01:52:58PM +0200, Domenico Andreoli wrote:
I think the more important thing to realize is that the reason we have
-doc packages is because the documentation for a given program takes up
a fair amount of space. If a user
#include hallo.h
* Martin Wuertele [Sun, Jun 25 2006, 11:05:54AM]:
then it is incorrect? If Debian does not use RedHat Kickstart then it
is broken?
Do you have some arguements beside the rant? firefox definitely should
handle .txt.gz and other gzipped plaintext documentation. I'm not
Hi,
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 11:05:54AM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote:
* Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-25 10:18]:
* Martin Wuertele [Sun, Jun 25 2006, 08:09:57AM]:
file-roller does view pdf.gz and if e.g. firefox handels them incorrect
it should be fixed in there. We don't
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 12:08:17PM +0200, Rolf Kutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Quoting Graham Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 01:52:58PM +0200, Domenico Andreoli wrote:
I think the more important thing to realize is that the reason we have
-doc packages is because
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 08:30:34AM +0200, Preben Randhol wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:35:53 +0900
Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
* propose policy update proposal. (debian-policy)
Ok, I'll bring it up here.
Unless someone do the first work, nothing will change. It is
* Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-25 12:09]:
Is there any external tool to convert PDF with better internal
compression? I want to see ome PDF make file to use it to improve their
PDF. Some PDF can still be compressed 50%, as I posted, which is bad.
pdftk handels both uncompress and
* Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-25 12:06]:
#include hallo.h
* Martin Wuertele [Sun, Jun 25 2006, 11:05:54AM]:
then it is incorrect? If Debian does not use RedHat Kickstart then it
is broken?
Do you have some arguements beside the rant? firefox definitely should
handle
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Osamu Aoki wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 05:30:59PM +0200, Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote:
Preben Randhol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My point is that if I choose to install a doc packages I intend to use
it frequently and would therefore
On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 06:54:49PM +0200, Volker Grabsch wrote:
I propose to add more CPU types to dpkg-architecture. In particular,
I'd like to see the different i386 architectures there, i.e.
i586, i686, k6, ...
[...]
For instance, some programs with lots of calculations (e.g. mplayer)
are
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 12:20:28PM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote:
* Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-25 12:09]:
pdftk handels both uncompress and compress (see
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/05/msg01440.html).
I overlooked this discussion started by.
#include hallo.h
* Martin Wuertele [Sun, Jun 25 2006, 12:30:31PM]:
* Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-25 12:06]:
#include hallo.h
* Martin Wuertele [Sun, Jun 25 2006, 11:05:54AM]:
then it is incorrect? If Debian does not use RedHat Kickstart then it
is broken?
Do
Hi,
It has come to my attention that the gem package is currently built
using 'make -j 4', to have four compiler processes running at the same
time. This is a bit troublesome for the poor m68k buildd, which is now
suffering under High Load And Constant Swapping (HLACS).
I was going to file a
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 04:36:08PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
It has come to my attention that the gem package is currently built
using 'make -j 4', to have four compiler processes running at the same
time. This is a bit troublesome for the poor m68k buildd, which is now
suffering under
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Per Olofsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: xdg-utils
Version : 1.0beta1
Upstream Author : Portland Project [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://portland.freedesktop.org/
* License : MIT
Programming Lang: Shell
su, 2006-06-25 kello 16:36 +0200, Wouter Verhelst kirjoitti:
It has come to my attention that the gem package is currently built
using 'make -j 4', to have four compiler processes running at the same
time. This is a bit troublesome for the poor m68k buildd, which is now
suffering under High
Quoting Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Since most packages currently
do not do this, some of our infrastructure (in casu, buildd machines)
assume this is not being done. Doing it anyway then might upset those
machines -- not just on m68k; when there was talk of a 6-way SPARC
buildd
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 05:07:16PM +0200, Turbo Fredriksson wrote:
When the talk about the hijacking of Bacula was up, the consensus was
'who cares about the m68k? If they can't keep up, get more machines'.
You can also get the same from the other arches if you prefer.
Bastian
--
There are
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 10:27:37PM +1000, Brendan O'Dea wrote:
On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 06:54:49PM +0200, Volker Grabsch wrote:
I propose to add more CPU types to dpkg-architecture. In particular,
I'd like to see the different i386 architectures there, i.e.
i586, i686, k6, ...
[...]
For
Hello,
As Erich Schubert pointed out:
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debtags-devel/2006-June/001255.html
Flamenco:
http://flamenco.berkeley.edu
is now free software:
http://flamenco.berkeley.edu/download.html
Flamenco is a faceted metadata interface from SIMS, UC Berkeley. [...]
[Lars Wirzenius]
As far as I can see, using make's -j option is only useful if you
have multiple processors. Packages should not make such assumptions
of the build environment.
Actually, I've seem speedup with -j2 on a single CPU machine. I
suspect one process is compiling while the other
Am Sonntag, den 25.06.2006, 18:11 +0300 schrieb Lars Wirzenius:
I doubt we need a policy change for this. At some point, we need to stop
legislating and start assuming the package maintainers have common
sense.
Agreed. However, it might be a good idea to have *one* canonical
variable name for
First of all I'm sorry to cross-post this request. But I need urgent
reply to know if somebody wants to team up in a project making Debian
ready for the One Laptop per Child hardware. If there is somebody
interested applying for OLPC developer board to make things work,
please reply to [EMAIL
On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 16:56 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
DoS against the buildd?
There is none. But you may consider it as an attack against the
infrastructure.
You on the other hand, might consider that developers might not have the
malicious intent you infer, but perhaps just made an honest
Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It has come to my attention that the gem package is currently built
using 'make -j 4', to have four compiler processes running at the same
time. This is a bit troublesome for the poor m68k buildd, which is now
suffering under High Load And Constant
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 06:51:31PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
[Lars Wirzenius]
As far as I can see, using make's -j option is only useful if you
have multiple processors. Packages should not make such assumptions
of the build environment.
Actually, I've seem speedup with -j2 on a
su, 2006-06-25 kello 10:41 -0700, Tyler MacDonald kirjoitti:
kernel-package uses the CONCURRENCY_LEVEL envrionment variable for
this. And if I do a CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=4 on my single-CPU system, it does
actually go quite a bit faster. :)
Sure, even on a single CPU -jX (X 1) can be faster,
El dom, 25-06-2006 a las 19:10 +0200, Knut Yrvin escribió:
First of all I'm sorry to cross-post this request. But I need urgent
reply to know if somebody wants to team up in a project making Debian
ready for the One Laptop per Child hardware. If there is somebody
interested applying for OLPC
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
Sure, even on a single CPU -jX (X 1) can be faster, but it depends on
various factors, such as available memory, and other load on the
machine. Using -j is not something that should be on by default, but it
would be *really* nice if it were easy to
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 06:11:24PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
su, 2006-06-25 kello 16:36 +0200, Wouter Verhelst kirjoitti:
It has come to my attention that the gem package is currently built
using 'make -j 4', to have four compiler processes running at the same
time. This is a bit
(I forgot to Cc: d-d in my first reply)
On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 01:12:23AM +0300, Martin-Éric Racine wrote:
[...]
I would gladly welcome co-maintainance with Debian's i10n/i18n team.
What are his benefits over convmv?
convmv is good at doing recursive batch conversions from command
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Yves-Alexis Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: epdfview
Version : 0.1.5
Upstream Author : Jordi Fita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.emma-soft.com/projects/epdfview/
* License : GPLv2
Programming Lang: C++
Preben Randhol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If anyone wants this to be fixed following should happen.
* Write a patch to the debhelper gzip text/pdf/ps file logic
- do not compress if the package is *-doc and file extension is
pdf.
I
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Nicolas Boullis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: vdr-plugin-dxr3
Version : 0.2.6
Upstream Author : Kai Moeller [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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Christian Gmeiner christian at
Yves-Alexis Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
epdfview is a pdf viewer based on poppler libs, like evince but without
all gnome libs dependencies, it only uses gtk libs.
So I'd expect a smaller memory footprint and faster startup. What
would I be losing? The ability to drag a PDF file and
On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 17:05 -0400, James R. Van Zandt wrote:
So I'd expect a smaller memory footprint and faster startup. What
would I be losing? The ability to drag a PDF file and drop it on the
application's icon on the desktop? Printer integration? Gnome style
documentation?
I don't
Hello,
I've been looking at bug #343620 where /etc/init.d/procps.sh should
not exit out. I can see why this could cause problems.
However, while I can see that bug #52228 asks for procps to be sourced,
I can see no good reason for doing so.
Isn't the whole point of the /etc/init.d/whatever.sh
Hello everyone,
Scott James Remnant dropped me an email recently, interested in
improving the automake situation in Ubuntu and Debian[0]. Right now the
automake packages looks like this:
automake1.4: This is the old school package, that's been completely
unsupported for a number of years (since
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 09:07:40PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
It's not a question of legislating; it's more a question of picking a
good option and writing the specification in policy.
I fully agree with Wouter on this. Although the specification doesn't
necessarily have to be in policy
Hi Eric,
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 07:11:14PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
automake1.4: This is the old school package, that's been completely
unsupported for a number of years (since 2002). It certainly not used
with any new software and any software still using it should be
migrated away from
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Franz Pletz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: python-stemmer
Version : 1.0.1
Upstream Author : Richard Boulton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://snowball.tartarus.org/
* License : BSD, MIT
Programming Lang: C, Python
* Artur R. Czechowski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Hi Eric,
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 07:11:14PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
automake1.4: This is the old school package, that's been completely
unsupported for a number of years (since 2002). It certainly not used
with any new software and any
On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 16:51 -0400, James R. Van Zandt wrote:
I have no idea how debhelper works. Are there anybody out there that
can help with getting it to stop gzipping files in -doc?
dh_compress already has a list of file extensions where (re-)compressing
doesn't make sense. I've
* Eric Dorland wrote:
Norbert Tretkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lcd4linux
Upstream just switched to a newer version of automake in cvs last
weekend, a new upload is pending.
Norbert
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