Re: Proposal regarding future packaging

2007-09-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 03:25:23 + (UTC), Oleg Verych (Gmane) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > 19-09-2007, Bruce Sass: [] >>> > I like this too. Finding what a package has just installed is one >>> > of the biggest holes in Debian right now, IMO. I have to use dpkg >>> > -L to figure this out, and th

Re: Proposal regarding future packaging

2007-09-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 03:46:26 -0600, Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sat September 22 2007 12:16:18 am Oleg Verych (Gmane) wrote: >> 21-09-2007, Bruce Sass: >> > On Thu September 20 2007 09:25:23 pm Oleg Verych (Gmane) wrote: >> >> 19-09-2007, Bruce Sass: >> >> > I'm hoping the dpkg "tri

Re: User-Agent strings, privacy and Debian browsers

2007-09-22 Thread Joey Hess
Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 11150 March 1977, Peter Eckersley wrote: > > I've seen reports from very large sites indicating that User-Agent > > strings are almost as useful as cookies for tracking their users. > > I cant believe this. Looking at the stats from packages.debian.org - U-A > is the wors

Re: User-Agent strings, privacy and Debian browsers

2007-09-22 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11150 March 1977, Peter Eckersley wrote: >> This is highly debateable. There may be tens or thousands of users of >> the same package visiting a web site. > I've seen reports from very large sites indicating that User-Agent > strings are almost as useful as cookies for tracking their users. I

Bug#443619: RFP: epdfview -- ePDFView is a free lightweight PDF document viewer

2007-09-22 Thread esters
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package name: epdfview Version: 0.1.6 Upstream Author: Jordi Fita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL: http://trac.emma-soft.com/epdfview/ License: GPL Description: ePDFView is a free lightweight P

Re: User-Agent strings, privacy and Debian browsers

2007-09-22 Thread Eduardo Trápani
Consider for a moment a typical User-Agent string sent by a Debian web browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070802 Iceape/1.1.4 (Debian-1.1.4-1) I agree that it is a bit too verbose and it might even be a security problem, but reaching consensus on what portion

Re: Rfh: test mdadm 2.6.3-1

2007-09-22 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 the mental interface of martin f krafft told: > Dear list, > > I am ready to upload mdadm 2.6.3-1, but when I installed it on my > home machine just before I left to Ireland, it failed to boot. I am > almost sure that this was due to #441211, but I can't be sure. > Unfortunate

Re: User-Agent strings, privacy and Debian browsers

2007-09-22 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 12:39:25PM -0700, Peter Eckersley wrote: > On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 11:36:41 +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > > > > This means, in practice, that many sites will be able to track > > > Debian users by their User-Agent, even if (say) the user is blocking > > > cookies or limitin

Re: User-Agent strings, privacy and Debian browsers

2007-09-22 Thread Peter Eckersley
On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 11:36:41 +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > > This means, in practice, that many sites will be able to track > > Debian users by their User-Agent, even if (say) the user is blocking > > cookies or limiting them to a single session and is changing IP > > address regularly. > > I

Re: User-Agent strings, privacy and Debian browsers

2007-09-22 Thread Peter Eckersley
On Sep 22, Marco D'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sep 22, Peter Eckersley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This means, in practice, that many sites will be able to track > > Debian users by their User-Agent, even if (say) the user is blocking > > cookies or limiting them to a single session

Re: User-Agent strings, privacy and Debian browsers

2007-09-22 Thread Peter Eckersley
Yes and no. Although IP addresses are a better tracking mechanism than User-Agent strings, each of them makes the other more effective. If you always browse from one IP, and all the other people at that IP use Windows, then this doesn't help you. But maybe you use open wifi networks, and other

Rfh: test mdadm 2.6.3-1

2007-09-22 Thread martin f krafft
Dear list, I am ready to upload mdadm 2.6.3-1, but when I installed it on my home machine just before I left to Ireland, it failed to boot. I am almost sure that this was due to #441211, but I can't be sure. Unfortunately, I also had to remove my vmware setup from the laptop due to lack of space,

Re: Bug#443528: ITP: xmms-pulse -- Pulseaudio Output plugin for xmms

2007-09-22 Thread Daniel Baumann
Thomas Goirand wrote: > Does it mean that I should try and make it work with xmms2 instead, > which means open an ITP for xmms2-pulse? Hi Thomas, please don't upload any xmms packages anymore; but go for xmm2 or audacious (unless you want to take over xmms itself). Regards, Daniel -- Address:

Re: modified email address in debian/copyright file

2007-09-22 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11150 March 1977, Marc Haber wrote: >>Same goes for those idiots with >>"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" addresses. > Using a plus sign in the mail address is a _very_ _very_ effective > spam filter. I dont care about the +. Thats not my point, im using such addresses myself. -- bye Joerg SCSI benötigt

Re: Some questions about Debian

2007-09-22 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Sat, 22 Sep 2007, martin f krafft wrote: > > How many "pieces of software" do you have in your distribution? Do you > > distinguish between "source packages" and "binary packages"? (if yes, > > give numbers for both). Are there subdivisions in the set of packages (by > > kind of support, by

Re: Some questions about Debian

2007-09-22 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.09.21.0619 +0100]: > I'm involved both in Debian and Ubuntu development, and I'm often > frustrated by how little I know about the other distributions. > After discussing this in a blog post[1], I got the impression that > I wasn't alone in that

Re: modified email address in debian/copyright file

2007-09-22 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:02:34 +0200, Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >You mean the foo at bar dot com value isnt parseable? I dont think it >has any value to encode an address like this, as any little spambot can >EASILY decode that. Agreed. >Same goes for those idiots with >"[EMAIL PROTE

Re: User-Agent strings, privacy and Debian browsers

2007-09-22 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 06:03:05PM -0700, Peter Eckersley wrote: > This means, in practice, that many sites will be able to track Debian > users by their User-Agent, even if (say) the user is blocking cookies or > limiting them to a single session and is changing IP address regularly. I would str

Re: Bug#443370: ITP: asmutils -- coreutils replacement written in i386 assembler

2007-09-22 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 09:44:04AM +1245, Andreas Fleckl wrote: > It features the smallest possible size and memory requirements, the fastest > speed, and offers fairly good functionality. Size and memory aside, I sort of doubt asmutils' sort is faster than coreutils' sort just because it's writte

Bug#443548: ITP: paperkey -- extract just the secret information out ouf OpenPGP secret keys

2007-09-22 Thread Peter Palfrader
Package: wnpp Owner: Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Severity: wishlist * Package name: paperkey Version : 0.5 Upstream Author : David Shaw * URL : http://www.jabberwocky.com/software/paperkey/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : extrac

Re: Proposal regarding future packaging

2007-09-22 Thread Bruce Sass
On Sat September 22 2007 12:16:18 am Oleg Verych (Gmane) wrote: > 21-09-2007, Bruce Sass: > > On Thu September 20 2007 09:25:23 pm Oleg Verych (Gmane) wrote: > >> 19-09-2007, Bruce Sass: > >> > I'm hoping the dpkg "triggers" functionality Ian Jackson has > >> > been working on will help solve that

Re: User-Agent strings, privacy and Debian browsers

2007-09-22 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, I think one technical solution which seems o be good to one person may not be good one for others. You must think realistic solution which do not affect others in any negative way and possibly give more benefits than just solving your own corner case problem. On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 06:03:05

Re: Bug#443528: ITP: xmms-pulse -- Pulseaudio Output plugin for xmms

2007-09-22 Thread Thomas Goirand
Thomas Viehmann wrote: > Hi, > > Thomas GOIRAND wrote: >> Description : Pulseaudio output plugin for xmms > > Last I heard the xmms maintainers asked for input on removing xmms and > how to deal with the plugins already in the archive... > > Kind regards > > T. Does it mean that I should

Re: [RFH] Implementing "Homepage:" field support in lintian/linda

2007-09-22 Thread Faidon Liambotis
Christian Perrier wrote: > The latter should probably be quite conservative and only detect > something like: > > "^ +[Hh]ome *[Pp]age:.*" > > in the package description. /^\s+(web|home)\s*(site|page)\s*(:| at| is).*/i seems to catch more (5087 hits) with few false positives. Also, matching http

Re: [RFH] Implementing "Homepage:" field support in lintian/linda

2007-09-22 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Faidon Liambotis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Christian Perrier wrote: > > The latter should probably be quite conservative and only detect > > something like: > > > > "^ +[Hh]ome *[Pp]age:.*" > > > > in the package description. > /^ (web|home)( *)?(site|page) *(:| at| is).*/i > seems to catch

Re: [RFH] Implementing "Homepage:" field support in lintian/linda

2007-09-22 Thread Faidon Liambotis
Christian Perrier wrote: > The latter should probably be quite conservative and only detect > something like: > > "^ +[Hh]ome *[Pp]age:.*" > > in the package description. /^ (web|home)( *)?(site|page) *(:| at| is).*/i seems to catch more (1905 hits) Regards, Faidon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Bug#443528: ITP: xmms-pulse -- Pulseaudio Output plugin for xmms

2007-09-22 Thread Sjoerd Simons
On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 10:13:17AM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > Hi, > > Thomas GOIRAND wrote: > > Description : Pulseaudio output plugin for xmms > > Last I heard the xmms maintainers asked for input on removing xmms and > how to deal with the plugins already in the archive... We alread

using "Breaks:", or how to replace it?

2007-09-22 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, I maintain two packages: T, in Debian with version 3.2.5-1 K, in Debian with version 1.0.2-1 The upstream developer for both apps recently released T 3.3 and K 1.1. Problem is: K 1.1 requires T 3.3 T 3.3 breaks K << 1.1 Avoiding the case where K 1.1 gets installed with T 3.2.5 is easy (using

Re: [RFH] Implementing "Homepage:" field support in lintian/linda

2007-09-22 Thread Paul Wise
On 9/22/07, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could some knowledgeable people propose some possible patches? I can > coordinate that stuff, but proposing patches is better left to Those > Who Know... I offered to update the lintian patch I submitted years ago for checking for a prope

Re: Bug#443528: ITP: xmms-pulse -- Pulseaudio Output plugin for xmms

2007-09-22 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi, Thomas GOIRAND wrote: > Description : Pulseaudio output plugin for xmms Last I heard the xmms maintainers asked for input on removing xmms and how to deal with the plugins already in the archive... Kind regards T. -- Thomas Viehmann, http://thomas.viehmann.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

[RFH] Implementing "Homepage:" field support in lintian/linda

2007-09-22 Thread Christian Perrier
Changes to lintian/linda are often mentioned in that discussion. Roughly speaking, we need these tools to: - no longer complain about "Homepage:" being an unknown field - warn people currently using the trick of mentioning the Home Page in the package's description and suggest them to move this t

Re: [RFC] Promoting the use of "Homepage:" field in debian/control

2007-09-22 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Right. These are staid, old, boring, unchanging fields; and > maintainers need not expect these to change; and putting them in policy > means that even dpkg can't change the fields drastically fro under the > developers. > > Howe

Re: [RFC] Promoting the use of "Homepage:" field in debian/control

2007-09-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 08:56:29 +0200, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Quoting Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): >> Actually, policy is usually the last thing that you want to do, in >> the general case. Policy is usually stable (well, not quite as >> stable as it has been this ye