Hi Goswin,
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 01:07:38AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
For example: Each repository puts its keyring into Release.keyring
(next to Release and Release.gpg). The Release.keyring could be listed
with checksum in Release so frontends know it is there and when it
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:49:08AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
FIXME: what if a line changes? Only allow certain changes?
... that's a rather large FIXME. Without fixing this, such an
implementation of declarative diversions would be
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 04:28:28PM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote:
I maintain a set of packages which depend openmpi which is missing on
certain architectures. To get around the latter problem, I use
I've frequently a similar issues: OCaml programs compiled in bytecode
depends on C stubs to
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:39:36AM +1000, Brian May wrote:
Luk Claes wrote:
apt-get install debian-backports-keyring
or
gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 16BA136C
gpg --export | apt-key add -
This involves 3 separate commands, and modifies files under
/root/.gnupg/
Patrick Schoenfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Goswin,
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 01:07:38AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
For example: Each repository puts its keyring into Release.keyring
(next to Release and Release.gpg). The Release.keyring could be listed
with checksum in Release so
Stefano Zacchiroli skrev:
Since apparently there are quite cases like that, what is the reason for
forbidding arch-specific dependencies in control? Can we reconsider
that?
What is the problem with arch-specific dependencies in control? I've
used them just fine (in wine, see libwine-dev) for
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Er, I've for the life of me never understood why --rename is even an
*option* to dpkg-divert. What does dpkg-divert do without it, and how is
that useful?
Only thing I can think of is something like this:
dpkg-divert --package my-libc6-wrapper --add
Stefano Zacchiroli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 04:28:28PM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote:
I maintain a set of packages which depend openmpi which is missing on
certain architectures. To get around the latter problem, I use
I've frequently a similar issues: OCaml
Hi,
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:20:33AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
The beauty of signatures is that you do not have to trust the source
of the key, only the signatures. It truely doesn't matter wher you get
the key from.
yes, you are right (given that you mean signatures on the key
Ove Kaaven wrote:
Stefano Zacchiroli skrev:
Since apparently there are quite cases like that, what is the reason for
forbidding arch-specific dependencies in control? Can we reconsider
that?
What is the problem with arch-specific dependencies in control? I've
used them just fine (in wine,
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:26:21AM +0200, Ove Kaaven wrote:
What is the problem with arch-specific dependencies in control? I've
used them just fine (in wine, see libwine-dev) for a while, no apparent
problems. I think they do only work for arch:any packages, though, as
they seem to be
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:34:35AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Different situation. The ocaml debs have the same depends on every
architecture for the individual deb. They might differ between debs
but not between archs for one arch:all deb.
Nope. I was talking about OCaml programs
On 11424 March 1977, Francesco Poli wrote:
Important disclaimers: IANAL, TINLA, IANADD, TINASOTODP.
Those are *totally* and absolutely unimportant and a waste to write.
Could people please stop always writing them, its fairly clear by itself
that debian-legal does NOT do any lawyers work (and
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 01:08:30PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote:
Certainly, the backports.org keyring is useful to some people, *but* it is,
1. not free software
I don't think there's a legal basis to claim copyright on a blob of random
bytes generated by a program. Who's the copyright
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 06:05:28PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 01:08:30PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote:
Certainly, the backports.org keyring is useful to some people, *but* it is,
1. not free software
I don't think there's a legal basis to claim copyright on a blob of
Stefano Zacchiroli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Interesting.
The problem with them is that policy does not allow them :-) Well, to be
precise, policy mentions that build-time relationships in debian/control
can be restricted to a certain set of architectures; it does not state
anything similar
On Sun, 22 Jun 2008, Francesco Poli wrote:
OK, that said, if you wanted to modify a public key (in order to obtain
something else), what form would you use for making modifications?
I think the preferred form would be the one in which the GPG public key
is distributed by keyservers or some
With our move to dash as sh we have to remove all bashisms from scripts
run by /bin/sh. However, checkbashism seems to moan about clauses that
work in dash as well. I don't know in which shells a trap with a signal number
is guaranteed to work, but it seems to work well in dash.
I just ran a
Terrific, I will give that a try, thanks very much!
-Adam
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Stefano Zacchiroli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:34:35AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Different situation. The ocaml debs have the same depends on every
architecture for the individual deb. They might differ between debs
but not between archs for one arch:all deb.
Michael Meskes wrote, 2008-06-23, 10:07:27 +0200:
With our move to dash as sh we have to remove all bashisms from
scripts run by /bin/sh. However, checkbashism seems to moan
about clauses that work in dash as well.
I don't know in which shells a trap with a signal number is
guaranteed to work,
brian m. carlson wrote:
I don't think there's a legal basis to claim copyright on a blob of random
bytes generated by a program. Who's the copyright holder? gpg? The authors
of gpg? The person who typed gpg in command-line? The entropy source?
Copyright (in the United States) requires an
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 10:07:27AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote:
With our move to dash as sh we have to remove all bashisms from scripts
run by /bin/sh. However, checkbashism seems to moan about clauses that
work in dash as well. I don't know in which shells a trap with a signal number
is
Hi there,
Because of the recent feedback I got in building debian package
using cmake, I decided to rewrite the current -broken- support.
As far as I understand :
1. dpkg-buildpackage *has* to be the entry point (nothing else, not
even 'cmake')
2. dpkg-buildpackage requires a 'debian'
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 07:04:09PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
3. I was suggested libopensync for cmake/debian package start.
I suggested it as a package which builds for different python versions.
By that time, I didn't realize you were doing something like
deb-creation support in cmake.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 09:33:14PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
On a hunch I checked the Packages.gz files on my system and found the
following example:
Package: libgnomevfs2-dev
Architecture: amd64
Source: gnome-vfs
Version: 1:2.22.0-4
Depends: libgnomevfs2-0 (= 1:2.22.0-4),
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 05:39:07PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
It's not guaranteed to work in any shell implementing POSIX without
extensions, which is what Policy says you're allowed to rely on (well,
plus a few extensions, but not including trap and kill with signal
numbers).
Right.
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:16:28 +0200 Joerg Jaspert wrote:
On 11424 March 1977, Francesco Poli wrote:
Important disclaimers: IANAL, TINLA, IANADD, TINASOTODP.
Those are *totally* and absolutely unimportant and a waste to write.
Could people please stop always writing them, its fairly clear
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 07:28:36PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote:
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 05:39:07PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
It's safe for use with dash, but using it is technically a violation of
Policy (albeit a widespread one). There is a Policy bug open requesting
that the XSI
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008, Russ Allbery wrote:
I've found no similar text for run-time relationships.
Should the policy be updated on this?
It probably should if all of the software or at least most (plus all of
the package installation software) supports them properly. Does it?
No. The only
On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 19:28 +0200, Michael Meskes wrote:
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 05:39:07PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
It's not guaranteed to work in any shell implementing POSIX without
extensions, which is what Policy says you're allowed to rely on (well,
plus a few extensions, but
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 01:33:21PM -0400, James Vega wrote:
From this I'd say for Lenny using trap with a signal number is fine.
Also they same question comes up with the local keyword. Dash seems to
support this, while it is not POSIX.
The local keyword is an explicitly supported
Hi,
On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 19:34 +0200, Francesco Poli wrote:
I *used* to think that those disclaimers are implicit in most cases.
But then, I was harshly accused of not making it clear enough that
I am neither a lawyer, nor a Debian developer, that I'm not providing
legal advice, and that I
On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 09:00 -0700, Ken Arromdee wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jun 2008, Francesco Poli wrote:
OK, that said, if you wanted to modify a public key (in order to obtain
something else), what form would you use for making modifications?
I think the preferred form would be the one in which
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:15:16 +0200 Arnoud Engelfriet wrote:
Ken Arromdee wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jun 2008, Francesco Poli wrote:
OK, that said, if you wanted to modify a public key (in order to obtain
something else), what form would you use for making modifications?
I think the preferred
Peter Samuelson wrote:
A few days ago upstream released Subversion 1.5.0, a fairly major
improvement over 1.4.x. Last night I finally fixed enough build and
testsuite bugs to be able to upload it to experimental.
For those of you who _haven't_ been caught up in the git craze yet, and
are still
On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 19:45 +0200, Michael Meskes wrote:
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 01:33:21PM -0400, James Vega wrote:
From this I'd say for Lenny using trap with a signal number is fine.
Also they same question comes up with the local keyword. Dash seems to
support this, while it is
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 07:59:01PM +0200, Daniel Widenfalk wrote:
If you update your svn client to 1.5.x it will automatically
upgrade your working copies (I guess on first use) so that
they become incompatible with earlier clients!
This was already the case with 1.4, so what?
For merge info
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Walter Landry wrote:
Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
But then, I was harshly accused of not making it clear enough that
I am neither a lawyer, nor a Debian developer, that I'm not providing
legal advice, and that I don't speak on
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:31:02 +0200 Arnoud Engelfriet wrote:
Francesco Poli wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:15:16 +0200 Arnoud Engelfriet wrote:
I don't think that modifying has any reasonable meaning when talking
about cryptographic keys.
Why not?
Because it implies that you'd
Hi,
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 12:54:09PM -0600, Wesley J. Landaker wrote:
Actually, how are debian-keyring and debian-archive-keyring free-software,
anyway?
Next time you have a similar question about these things, please
consider dropping -devel from the list of CCs.
thanks,
Michael
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On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Le lundi 23 juin 2008 à 22:11 +0200, Mathieu Malaterre a écrit :
That's just rude. Even if you are a super star in the debian-world
and a fantastic hacker, your comment can not possibly be coming from a
grown up
This one time, at band camp, Francesco Poli said:
There were some other people who seemed to more or less agree with
Anthony Towns. But he was certainly the loudest one complaining about
this.
I think it's quite likely I objected to you appearing to speak
authoritatively on behalf of the
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 00:20 +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
Stop. Don't even try to go further. This is NOT the right way. Your
brand new wheels are going to drive you straight into a wall after way
too much effort.
Please give such real world examples of failure (if they are
documented
On 2008-06-23, Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
for months, looking at you drowning in your brain-dead system, you
should try to write patches to make cdbs and/or debhelper 7 work
transparently with cmake. This is the right way, and it requires much
cdbs already works pretty well with
Adam D. Barratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Supporting local x would be relatively simple; suggestions for a
reliable regex to catch use of -a/-o welcome... :)
There was a fairly good one in Lintian that I took out once Policy blessed
it, or at least we didn't get a lot of false positive
brian m. carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As for the signal numbers, different architectures have different signal
numbers. See signal(7), but the most common ones *are* identical.
However, signals such as SIGUSR1 and SIGUSR2 are not, and using a number
for these will break on at least
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