On 2011-01-13, Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu wrote:
In short: The Debian maintainer is responsible that a bug will be
reported upstream. I don't see a problem if he delegates the actual
work to somebody else who is able and willing to do the job (but please
be nice to the user when asking
[Jesús M. Navarro]
Dear Jesus. Are you seriously saying that
- the kernel mainatiners should step down
- the xorg maintainers should step down
- the mozilla maintainers should step down
- the gnome maintainers should step down
- the kde maintainers should step down
- the xfce
[Jesús M. Navarro]
If any, bugs you (properly) pass to the upstream developer are bugs
that will cost you not a dime of your valuable time from them on.
You didn't read the rest of the thread, did you?
If you understand what I said, good; if you didn't, please, make me
the honour of
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 08:43:36AM +, Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2011-01-13, Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu wrote:
In short: The Debian maintainer is responsible that a bug will be
reported upstream. I don't see a problem if he delegates the actual
work to somebody else who is able and
Hi, Peter:
On Friday 14 January 2011 10:29:57 Peter Samuelson wrote:
[Jesús M. Navarro]
If any, bugs you (properly) pass to the upstream developer are bugs
that will cost you not a dime of your valuable time from them on.
You didn't read the rest of the thread, did you?
Yes I did. And I
As new (sponsored) mantainer i have a few things to say about this thread.
First of all. If i receive a bug report, i do my best to handle it in the
rigth way, i am in contact with upstream author and fortunately i have no
bugs in my package. I personally don't care to forward bugs to upstream.
On 2011-01-14, Iker Salmón San Millán sha...@esdebian.org wrote:
2011/1/14 Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk
Hi Andreas. Would you like to be delegated to help reporting bugs in
packages maintained by Qt/KDE team upstream?
/Sune
I would be glad if i could help you in that (or any) way sune.
Le mercredi 12 janvier 2011 à 20:58 +0200, Anssi Kolehmainen a écrit :
My workaround was to purge network-manager and I'm planning to fix this by
creating a package which Conflicts: network-manager. Maybe you could provide
this kind of package by default :)
Unless you have more useful
Le jeudi 13 janvier 2011 à 11:54 +0100, Olaf van der Spek a écrit :
Instead of stepping down, it might be better to ask for a co-maintainer.
I hereby request a new co-maintainer for the GNOME packages.
--
.''`.
: :' : “You would need to ask a lawyer if you don't know
`. `' that a
Hi!
Am 13.01.2011 11:54, schrieb Olaf van der Spek:
Now we just need to define what a proper job is.
Instead of stepping down, it might be better to ask for a co-maintainer.
You mean like this http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/help_requested?
Let's have a look:
# chromium-browser [..]
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
alexan...@schmehl.info wrote:
Hi!
Am 13.01.2011 11:54, schrieb Olaf van der Spek:
Now we just need to define what a proper job is.
Instead of stepping down, it might be better to ask for a co-maintainer.
You mean like this
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:29:58AM +, Sune Vuorela wrote:
We have written a bit about what's needed here:
http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/bugs.html
A while ago I've reviewed a little bit which kind of contributions
distros are looking for, from people who are willing to get involved
with
On 14.01.2011 12:30, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mercredi 12 janvier 2011 à 20:58 +0200, Anssi Kolehmainen a écrit :
My workaround was to purge network-manager and I'm planning to fix this by
creating a package which Conflicts: network-manager. Maybe you could provide
this kind of package by
Olaf van der Spek olafvds...@gmail.com (14/01/2011):
There are lots of packages with old bugs without any comments that
are not on that list.
Oh, indeed! Crap! I hereby request help for the 167 following
packages:
ccsm
compiz
compizconfig-backend-gconf
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 00:38:37 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
Felipe Sateler writes (Re: Forwarding bugs upstream):
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:56:56 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
I think it is always reasonable for the maintainer to forward the bug
upstream.
But what I think is bad is _demanding_ or
On Thursday 13 January 2011 22:27:02 Joey Hess wrote:
Thanks for your work, here are a few things I stumbled on.
Thanks for trying and reporting issues :-)
Worst problem: -save *removes* all Comment fields except for one
in the header section.
Looks like I messed up the routine that
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:27:12 +, Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2011-01-13, Felipe Sateler fsate...@debian.org wrote:
We can't demand or require anyone to do anything. Yet we expect
I think this is mostly wrong.
We can demand or require people to step down. And we should if we don't
think
On Thursday 13 January 2011 22:48:48 Joey Hess wrote:
Also, it's missing BSD-2-clause etc.
ok. Fixed. Unless I remove all these license keyword check... Still thinking
...
The original format from the wiki page uses comma to separate
Files. Might be worth detecting and converting those?
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org wrote:
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:29:58AM +, Sune Vuorela wrote:
We have written a bit about what's needed here:
http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/bugs.html
A while ago I've reviewed a little bit which kind of
Michael Biebl dijo [Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 01:34:45PM +0100]:
My workaround was to purge network-manager and I'm planning to fix this by
creating a package which Conflicts: network-manager. Maybe you could
provide
this kind of package by default :)
Unless you have more useful
John Goerzen dijo [Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 05:08:26PM -0600]:
So let's run out your scenario a bit: upstream asks user to test with
upstream version X. Bug isn't reproducible by maintainer. Does the
maintainer now have to provide user with binaries? This gets
complicated when packaging
On 01/13/2011 06:19 PM, Jesús M. Navarro wrote:
Hi, Sune:
On Thursday 13 January 2011 00:12:06 Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2011-01-12, Jesús M. Navarrojesus.nava...@undominio.net wrote:
I have considered to take this one step further. Close bugs reported in
Debian BTS with a severity of important
Dominique Dumont wrote:
Also, note that Comment: foo is not flagged as a problem (despite
being apparently illegal -- DEP-5 puzzlingly does not allow a comment
to have a synopsis).
Now that I have finally understood this notion of synopsis, I can fix these
issues.
I probably misread
On Fri January 14 2011 03:51:48 Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
Am 13.01.2011 11:54, schrieb Olaf van der Spek:
Instead of stepping down, it might be better to ask for a co-maintainer.
You mean like this http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/help_requested?
Let's have a look:
#
Hi.
In the Debian Haskell Group we are with the following problem. When the
compiler (ghc) is updated, we binNMU all the stack of libraries to make them
compiled with the new compiler. Each library has the documentation in a -doc
package, which is Arch: all. This documentation is generated
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andrey Rahmatullin w...@wrar.name
* Package name: xboxdrv
Version : 0.6.4
Upstream Author : Ingo Ruhnke grum...@gmx.de
* URL : http://pingus.seul.org/~grumbel/xboxdrv/
* License : GPL3+
Programming Lang: C++
On ven., 2011-01-14 at 18:05 -0200, Marco Silva wrote:
This documentation is generated automatically
from the source code, using a documentation generator called haddock. Haddock
is part of the compiler and is also updated when the ghc is. It would be
good to regenerate the documentation for
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:11:51AM -0800, Mike Bird wrote:
On Fri January 14 2011 03:51:48 Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
Am 13.01.2011 11:54, schrieb Olaf van der Spek:
Instead of stepping down, it might be better to ask for a co-maintainer.
You mean like this
On Fri January 14 2011 13:44:12 Ben Hutchings wrote:
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:11:51AM -0800, Mike Bird wrote:
The impression I get of Debian is that in order to contribute
I need to spend a year or so humoring somebody with a tenth my
programming experience.
snip
(1) sysv-rc upgrade
This one time, at band camp, Ben Hutchings said:
Strange, I can't find your ITP for Trinity.
That's because he trolls without ever actually doing anything. Don't
feed the waste of time.
Cheers,
--
-
| ,''`.
Hi, John:
On Friday 14 January 2011 16:49:18 John Goerzen wrote:
[...]
I think it is a huge waste of time to expect DDs to go through 400 bugs
just to see if the problem is still there. Just close them outright.
Why the package(s) got 400 bugs to start with? If the problem is there, then
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 09:44:12PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:11:51AM -0800, Mike Bird wrote:
If that impression is wrong, I'd really like to fix at least
two major bugs in Squeeze:
(1) sysv-rc upgrade should not bring in insserv and wreck
startup on systems
Jesús M. Navarro jesus.nava...@undominio.net writes:
Why the package(s) got 400 bugs to start with? If the problem is there,
then it's there. If somebody opened the bug then there was a bug at
least on his opinion which nobody challenged. If there was a bug, then
it need to be supposed
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes:
I've yet to find a single system which upgraded to insserv cleanly.
This is mostly due to removed packages which need fully purging to
remove the last traces of old init scripts which break the process.
Huh. Every system I've upgraded had no problems.
On Fri January 14 2011 15:08:13 Stephen Gran wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Ben Hutchings said:
Strange, I can't find your ITP for Trinity.
That's because he trolls without ever actually doing anything. Don't
feed the waste of time.
The problem is not a lack of ITP. Lenny already has
On Fri January 14 2011 16:07:58 Russ Allbery wrote:
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes:
I've yet to find a single system which upgraded to insserv cleanly.
This is mostly due to removed packages which need fully purging to
remove the last traces of old init scripts which break the
Hi Yves-Alexis.
Excerpts from Yves-Alexis Perez's message of Sex Jan 14 19:22:31 -0200 2011:
On ven., 2011-01-14 at 18:05 -0200, Marco Silva wrote:
This documentation is generated automatically
from the source code, using a documentation generator called haddock.
Haddock
is part of the
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 04:07:58PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes:
I've yet to find a single system which upgraded to insserv cleanly.
This is mostly due to removed packages which need fully purging to
remove the last traces of old init scripts which
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes:
Yes, and this is what I did. It's just rather tedious to (IIRC)
repeatedly run dpkg-reconfigure sysv-rc and then find out which file
is offending, run dpkg -S $file, and then purge it.
I've not looked at the mechanism involved at all, but it does seem
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 04:52:13PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes:
Yes, and this is what I did. It's just rather tedious to (IIRC)
repeatedly run dpkg-reconfigure sysv-rc and then find out which file
is offending, run dpkg -S $file, and then purge it.
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011, Russ Allbery wrote:
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes:
I've yet to find a single system which upgraded to insserv cleanly.
This is mostly due to removed packages which need fully purging to
remove the last traces of old init scripts which break the process.
Quoting Mike Bird (mgb-deb...@yosemite.net):
You have no idea what configurations are in use on stable servers.
You have no idea how many stable servers you're going to break.
You're right. No Debian developer is involved in large institutions or
corporations where hundreds of such servers
]] Roger Leigh
| On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 04:07:58PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
| Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes:
|
| I've yet to find a single system which upgraded to insserv cleanly.
| This is mostly due to removed packages which need fully purging to
| remove the last traces
On Fri January 14 2011 22:06:21 Christian PERRIER wrote:
You're right. No Debian developer is involved in large institutions or
corporations where hundreds of such servers are in use. All Debian
developers are kids playing on their parents' computer to build a
distro, during hacking nights,
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Olá,
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:27:19 -0200, Anderson Goulart wrote
Olá,
O SESC Venda Nova possui pontos negativos e positivos. Acredito que
devam ser considerados nesta escolha:
Positivos:
- Preço mais atraente
Vocês já conseguiram algum orçamento ou indicação de preços?
- Local único
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:56:12 -0200, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote
Olá,
[...]
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:27:19 -0200, Anderson Goulart wrote
Olá,
O SESC Venda Nova possui pontos negativos e positivos. Acredito que
devam ser considerados nesta escolha:
Coloquei um mapa do SESC Venda Nova na
2011/1/14 Anderson Goulart glo...@goulart.info:
...
- Muito distante de belo horizonte e de pontos turísticos / bares
- A comida local não é das melhores e não há nada perto para se comer bem
- Os quartos são simples, quentes e com pernilongos. Alguns possuem
ventiladores o que ajuda, mas não
Otavio Salvador ota...@ossystems.com.br disse que disse:
2011/1/14 Anderson Goulart glo...@goulart.info:
...
- Muito distante de belo horizonte e de pontos turísticos / bares
- A comida local não é das melhores e não há nada perto para se comer bem
- Os quartos são simples, quentes e com
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 01:27:19PM -0200, Anderson Goulart wrote:
Negativos:
- Espaços muito distantes. Há lugares que você gasta uns 10 a 15 min de
caminhada para chegar no auditório/sala. Tudo lá é muito distante.
Ir ao SESC e verificar quais espacoes la usaremos talves
solucione isto, pois
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