I'd prefer if such a tool could replace an existing one. Why not aim at
replacing dput if there's a reason for it?
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Quoting Lucas Nussbaum (lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net):
I think I agree with everybody, so here is a new version of the last step of
the proposed procedure:
I read the huge thread quickly during last days and I think your
text well summarizes what seems to be the best consensus.
That's great
Hi,
I am a bit confused on discrepancy between policy and Release Critical
Issues for Wheezy.
http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-main
http://release.debian.org/wheezy/rc_policy.txt
Is this discrepancy of requirements for main on Recommends: intended
one or some typo.
On 27/10/12 19:30, Michael Biebl wrote:
On 27.10.2012 12:25, Vincent Bernat wrote:
Hi!
Libraries with `-dbg` package are a pain to deal with when debugging
some problem. The solution to ask each user to rebuild the library
without stripping debug symbols[1] seem suboptimal. Asking each
Philip Ashmore cont...@philipashmore.com writes:
Debug packages also make back-traces more than useless, and
They also allow systemtap to probe userland binaries once
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=691167 is fixed.
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Paul Wise, le Sun 28 Oct 2012 11:34:33 +0800, a écrit :
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
When somebody implements it.
Someone already did:
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/tools/win32-loader/unstable/win32-loader.txt
Wubi is not only about installing from windows, but
Hi,
On 28.10.2012 08:03, Philipp Kern wrote:
I'd prefer if such a tool could replace an existing one. Why not aim at
replacing dput if there's a reason for it?
As for us, we'd welcome that. However, that's primarily left to the
current dput maintainer and his interest in that. Also note, we
* Philip Ashmore cont...@philipashmore.com [121028 09:12]:
Yeah, in (cough)Fedora, kdbg even offers to download and install
debug packages for you.
Debug packages also make back-traces more than useless, and
(cough)Ubuntu offers to download debug packages which it installs
and re-examines the
On 28.10.2012 07:17, Osamu Aoki wrote:
Policy states In addition, the packages in main must not require or
recommend a package outside of main for compilation or execution
(thus,
the package must not declare a Pre-Depends, Depends,
Recommends,
Build-Depends, or Build-Depends-Indep
* Arno Töll:
dput-ng features many enhancements over dput, such as more
comprehensive checks, an easy to use plugin system, and code
designed to handle the numerous archives that any Debian package
hacker will interact with.
Does it prevent uploading security updates to the main archive by
Hi,
On 28.10.2012 13:57, Florian Weimer wrote:
Does it prevent uploading security updates to the main archive by
default?
Adam, with his Release Team hat on, suggested us to prevent this for
t-p-u likewise. We have the infrastructure and possibilities to
implement a check like this, and it is
On 28.10.2012 13:06, Arno Töll wrote:
On 28.10.2012 13:57, Florian Weimer wrote:
Does it prevent uploading security updates to the main archive by
default?
Adam, with his Release Team hat on, suggested us to prevent this for
t-p-u likewise.
I think it was p-u, but more as a grumble about an
On 10/27/2012 04:47 AM, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
For example if package is not maintained for years we can certainly wait for a
month or two before orphaning even though there may be no need to wait that
long.
This unfortunately cannot be set as a rule. Sometimes, a package that was
left
Hi,
On 28.10.2012 14:15, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
On 28.10.2012 13:06, Arno Töll wrote:
On 28.10.2012 13:57, Florian Weimer wrote:
Does it prevent uploading security updates to the main archive by
default?
Adam, with his Release Team hat on, suggested us to prevent this for
t-p-u likewise.
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Michael Gilbert mgilb...@debian.org wrote:
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Charles Plessy wrote:
maybe we could simply allow anyone, including non-DDs, to submit O-bugs for
packages which seem abandoned by the maintainer, and to submit ITA-bugs for
packages
On Sun, 2012-10-28 at 11:35 +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
* Philip Ashmore cont...@philipashmore.com [121028 09:12]:
Yeah, in (cough)Fedora, kdbg even offers to download and install
debug packages for you.
Debug packages also make back-traces more than useless, and
(cough)Ubuntu offers
Andrew Starr-Bochicchio a.star...@gmail.com writes:
Michael Gilbert mgilb...@debian.org wrote:
If, as Bart has found, such mistakes are quite rare, then why worry so
much? We don't need new formal processes for rarely occurring social
problems. We need more people willing to help those that
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 08:03:25AM +, Philip Ashmore wrote:
Having the sources installed in /usr/src and referenced there rather
than /buildd would be an improvement too.
That's why there is the 'substitute-path' feature in gdb to fix that. Also see
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 11:15:47AM +0100, Arno Töll wrote:
Hi,
On 28.10.2012 08:03, Philipp Kern wrote:
I'd prefer if such a tool could replace an existing one. Why not aim at
replacing dput if there's a reason for it?
As for us, we'd welcome that. However, that's primarily left to the
* Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk [121028 17:02]:
There are plenty of bugs that involve 'undefined behaviour' that in
practice depends on whether optimisation is enabled. Unless you have a
good idea what's going wrong, how do you know that 'noopt' won't hide
the bug?
If the bug still
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 05:25:20PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 11:15:47AM +0100, Arno Töll wrote:
Hi,
On 28.10.2012 08:03, Philipp Kern wrote:
I'd prefer if such a tool could replace an existing one. Why not aim at
replacing dput if there's a reason for it?
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
If not, why are you claiming to replace their code? It's fine to be
writing something else to replace older code; but it's fairly rude to
be claiming that whatever you're writing is the next generation of
that older code
Any rewrite
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 02:40:53PM +0100, Arno Töll wrote:
Yes, I know it still lacks code name aliases, but that's something we
are aware of. Also, the user prompting interface is not very clean yet :)
Please make sure that it can be overridden on the commandline, thanks.
Kind regards
Philipp
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:37:38PM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote:
ax25-apps, fabric, firmware-crystalhd, icewm-themes, ilisp, inguma,
lustre, mingw-ocaml, noflushd, openvas-plugins-dfsg, php-crypt-gpg,
phpgacl, python-django-piston, smbind, sorl-thumbnail, spatialite-gui,
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
If, as Bart has found, such mistakes are quite rare, then why worry so
much? We don't need new formal processes for rarely occurring social
problems. We need more people willing to help those that make social
mistakes to learn and improve
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 06:24:24PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
Similarly, Steve: can you comment on the criticism of voting on
packages, why don't you see it as a problem?
[…]
*I am not proposing a new process*. This was the process that was
used for *years* via debian-qa. But, evidently
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 11:36:15AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
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4. When/if consensus has been reached, or if no objections have been raised,
the package can be orphaned by retitling and reassigning the ITO bug
accordingly. Here are some example
Hi folks,
sorry, I hadn't found time yet to let you know about the prospective
plans for beta 4. I also haven't found time to read most of the last ~
200 mails on -boot@ but baring regressions in beta 3 (privext handling
for netcfg/NM comes to mind, which got worked around already), I'm
tempted
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 00:21:41 Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 10/27/2012 04:47 AM, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
For example if package is not maintained for years we can certainly wait
for a month or two before orphaning even though there may be no need to
wait that long.
This unfortunately cannot be
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 03:07:16 Russ Allbery wrote:
Andrew Starr-Bochicchio a.star...@gmail.com writes:
It's not that too many people are making mistakes. It's that too many
people don't take any action out of fear of making the mistake in the
first place. That's why we need a well defined
Hi THere!
Just trying to avoid people wasting effort on bind9 NMU work.
I am working with LaMont Jones on an update for wheezy to bind9 9.8.4,
rebased on the ISC 9.8.4 code, which will definitely close #690569,
#690142, and may be #689755. (The rest of the Important bugs appear to
be with old
On 28/10/12 16:09, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 08:03:25AM +, Philip Ashmore wrote:
Having the sources installed in /usr/src and referenced there rather
than /buildd would be an improvement too.
That's why there is the 'substitute-path' feature in gdb to fix that. Also
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Philip Ashmore wrote:
While this feature allows gdb to know the correct source locations, using it
implies that packages requiring the feature contain incorrect source paths -
wouldn't it be better for these packages to contain correct source paths in
the
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