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Hi,
Josh Triplett wrote (29 May 2013 18:50:23 GMT) :
As a user of sid who also maintains various systems running stable, I
rely on packages like xul-ext-adblock-plus to make it easier to install
specific addons systemwide.
FTR, packaged XUL extensions make it easier to build Debian Live
On Mi, 29 mai 13, 15:59:35, Russ Allbery wrote:
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes:
Exim is a listening daemon, even if it listens only on localhost in the
default configuration. I'd prefer dma instead.
It's better to have a listening daemon on localhost. There's no
On 30/05/2013 01:51, Scott Kitterman wrote:
Sylvestre Ledru sylves...@debian.org wrote:
Hello,
With the recent setup of the parallel build infrastructure using clang
instead of gcc [1], I would like to start to report
bugs on packages failing to build with clang (with patches if
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 09:10:41PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
This kind of madness is precisely described here:
http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-devel-list/2008-January/msg00861.html
[zillionth link to linux is not about choice mail]
Because it's a very good read, still years later. It
On Thu, 16 May 2013 16:58:13 +0200, Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org wrote:
On Tue, 2013-05-14 at 08:50:39 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Stéphane Glondu wrote:
Le 13/05/2013 15:51, Paul Wise a écrit :
[...] as long
as there is a way to build-depend on the
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 08:27:36PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
In addition to determining the MTA pulled in by default for packages
which require mail-transport-agent in order to function (the provider of
default-mta), I'd like to propose as a release goal that we not have any
MTA in standard
* Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us [130529 08:29]:
- Exim configuration is more human readable than Postifx's, IMHO.
Postfix configuration is concise but terse, and there are typically
blocks of options separated by commas that doesn't easily allow
commenting on specific
This is stockholm syndromish - because Debian is held behind times by
lack of decision making, we start finding good things in being behind.
Do you realize that fedora is the beta version for red hat? They use the
community to get free testing for their commercial product.
Personally as a
On 29/05/13 08:18, Chris Knadle wrote:
- Exim is more popular
http://www.securityspace.com/s_survey/data/man.201201/mxsurvey.html
This is actually quite interesting.
Given that Postfix is the default MTA on RHEL/CentOS, SLES (SUSE) and
Ubuntu; meanwhile Exim is only the default on
Le mercredi 29 mai 2013 à 21:43 +0200, Marc Haber a écrit :
That is one of my concerns: Once Debian GNU/Linux has systemd as
default, noone will an longer provide init scripts, let alone tested
init scripts, which will severely hurt non-Linux kernels in Debian.
While entirely true, I think it
On Wed, 29 May 2013 23:12:39 +0300, Andrei POPESCU
andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mi, 29 mai 13, 21:52:04, Marc Haber wrote:
Yes. And many systems have intermittent connectivity, which rules out
non-queueing mini-MTAs. Exim does the Job pretty well, and people who
know what an MTA is will
On Thu, 30 May 2013 10:18:07 +0300, Andrei POPESCU
andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe it makes sense to have virtual packages like mta-daemon,
mta-forwarder, etc.? (regardless of which, if any, is installed by
default)
Show code, or at least an explanation about how you intend to do that.
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:16:38PM +0200, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote:
On 29/05/13 08:18, Chris Knadle wrote:
- Exim is more popular
http://www.securityspace.com/s_survey/data/man.201201/mxsurvey.html
This is actually quite interesting.
Given that Postfix is the default MTA
On Thu, 30 May 2013 04:04:14 +0800, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org
wrote:
On 05/29/2013 11:32 PM, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino wrote:
On 29 May 2013 17:11, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
Le mercredi 29 mai 2013 à 16:31 +0200, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino a
écrit :
He will see a
On Thursday, May 30, 2013 12:16:38 PM Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote:
On 29/05/13 08:18, Chris Knadle wrote:
- Exim is more popular
http://www.securityspace.com/s_survey/data/man.201201/mxsurvey.html
This is actually quite interesting.
Given that Postfix is the default MTA
On 2013-05-30, Riku Voipio riku.voi...@iki.fi wrote:
By switching early we can affect how a piece of software will evolve.
Is there something you would like to change in systemd? Now it still
probably possible - 2 years from now it has shipped in RHEL, and books
will have been written about it
Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes:
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 09:06:59PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 05:11:35PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mercredi 29 mai 2013 à 16:31 +0200, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino a
écrit :
Take for example, smartmoontools [1].
On Wed, 29 May 2013 19:45:06 -0400, Chris Knadle
chris.kna...@coredump.us wrote:
I don't like the fact that the /etc/exim4/passwd.client
file is in a plaintext format, but there are usually several such files on
systems such that realistically we're only really safe as long as the
machines we
On Wed, 29 May 2013 13:10:57 -0700, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org
wrote:
Using an imperative language for a descriptive purpose is a bad mismatch
of tools and has been ever since the practical effect of init scripts has
become fairly standardized.
Some init scripts in Debian build dynamic
On Thursday, May 30, 2013 10:15:11 AM Sylvestre Ledru wrote:
On 30/05/2013 01:51, Scott Kitterman wrote:
Sylvestre Ledru sylves...@debian.org wrote:
Hello,
With the recent setup of the parallel build infrastructure using clang
instead of gcc [1], I would like to start to report
bugs
On Wed, 29 May 2013 21:10:41 +0200, Wouter Verhelst
wou...@debian.org wrote:
At Debian, traditionally we support more than one choice (at least for a
while), until the community at large decides that option X is the best
one (and then we drop support for all the other options). The downside
of
On Thu, 30 May 2013 11:46:51 +0300, Riku Voipio riku.voi...@iki.fi
wrote:
By switching early we can affect how a piece of software will evolve.
This is the case with software that has a cooperative upstream.
systemd's upstream is known not to be.
Greetings
Marc
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On Thu, 30 May 2013 11:11:06 +0200, Bernhard R. Link
brl...@debian.org wrote:
* Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us [130529 08:29]:
- Exim configuration is more human readable than Postifx's, IMHO.
Postfix configuration is concise but terse, and there are typically
blocks of
On Thu, 30 May 2013 12:06:17 +0300, Riku Voipio riku.voi...@iki.fi
wrote:
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 08:27:36PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
In addition to determining the MTA pulled in by default for packages
which require mail-transport-agent in order to function (the provider of
default-mta),
On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 05:11:35 PM Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mercredi 29 mai 2013 à 16:31 +0200, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino a
écrit :
Take for example, smartmoontools [1]. Currently, if an end-user
installs smartmoontools and a hard-disk fails (i.e. smartd detects a
problem with one
Eric Dorland eric at debian.org writes:
at the very beginning of the jessie release cycle I'd like to propose
a mass bug filing to remove all the current automake packages in
unstable (automake1.13 is in the NEW queue). Automake 1.4 in
Erm. How about you’d have checked with the maintainers of
On 26-05-13 20:02, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote:
Hi Dennis and everybody,
somewhat related to this, I would like to know if there is a package that
could
host Amazon's EC2 public certificate ? In Ubuntu it is added to the
On Thu, 30 May 2013 11:38:22 +0200, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
I have tried systemd, and I like the approach it has, and in a few years
I believe it has potential. But... using it to restart my computer i
need to do an hard reset (and think of how happy would I be if my
computer had been a server
On 30/05/13 12:27, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Thursday, May 30, 2013 12:16:38 PM Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote:
On 29/05/13 08:18, Chris Knadle wrote:
- Exim is more popular
http://www.securityspace.com/s_survey/data/man.201201/mxsurvey.html
This is actually quite interesting.
On Thu, 30 May 2013 12:40:03 +0200
Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de wrote:
On Thu, 30 May 2013 12:06:17 +0300, Riku Voipio riku.voi...@iki.fi
wrote:
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 08:27:36PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
In addition to determining the MTA pulled in by default for packages
On Thursday, May 30, 2013 01:01:46 PM Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote:
On 30/05/13 12:27, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Thursday, May 30, 2013 12:16:38 PM Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote:
On 29/05/13 08:18, Chris Knadle wrote:
- Exim is more popular
On 30-05-13 12:27, Marc Haber wrote:
We should make local mail or other messages trivially and
automatically visible for people who have installed Debian in NNF[1]
compliant way, but if one has gone to length to use something
non-default, I think we can safely trust those people with taking
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Dennis van Dok denni...@nikhef.nl wrote:
On 26-05-13 20:02, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote:
Hi Dennis and everybody,
somewhat related to this, I would like to know if there is a package that
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Dennis van Dok denni...@nikhef.nl wrote:
On 26-05-13 20:02, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote:
Hi Dennis and everybody,
somewhat related to this, I would like to know if there is a package that
On 30-05-13 12:16, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote:
On 29/05/13 08:18, Chris Knadle wrote:
- Exim is more popular
http://www.securityspace.com/s_survey/data/man.201201/mxsurvey.html
This is actually quite interesting.
Given that Postfix is the default MTA on RHEL/CentOS, SLES
On 30/05/13 11:19, Marc Haber wrote:
On Wed, 29 May 2013 13:10:57 -0700, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org
wrote:
Using an imperative language for a descriptive purpose is a bad mismatch
of tools and has been ever since the practical effect of init scripts has
become fairly standardized.
Some
On Thu, 30 May 2013 06:46:46 -0400, Scott Kitterman
deb...@kitterman.com wrote:
Even if they are using a system
that allows them to go back and review their notification history when they
return to their system,
It just occurred to me that you are describing a mail client.
Greetings
Marc
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On Thursday, May 30, 2013 05:11:06, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
* Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us [130529 08:29]:
- Exim configuration is more human readable than Postifx's, IMHO.
Postfix configuration is concise but terse, and there are typically
blocks of options
On Thu, 30 May 2013 12:28:28 +0100, Neil Williams
codeh...@debian.org wrote:
What is the benefit of having a local email server installed on every
system compared to the space it takes up and the fact that it sits
there unconfigured, doing nothing useful?
It sits there with a well reasoned
Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de writes:
On Thu, 30 May 2013 11:46:51 +0300, Riku Voipio riku.voi...@iki.fi
wrote:
By switching early we can affect how a piece of software will evolve.
This is the case with software that has a cooperative upstream.
systemd's upstream is known not to
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:31:22PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
Btw, I fear that systemd's binary logs are going to import this method
of inefficient work in our world. I surely hope I am wrong on this
count.
journalctl gives pretty much exactly the same output as
/var/log/messages and so on. As a
Le jeudi, 30 mai 2013 00.10:11, Philip Hands a écrit :
Moritz Mühlenhoff j...@inutil.org writes:
Willi Mann foss...@wm1.at schrieb:
Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
As such, we'll switch to releasing the ESR releases of iceweasel
and icedove in stable-security.
wouldn't it be better to do
On 30-05-13 13:16, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
Using only one lib for crypto (libnss) will allow to use only one
trust certificate format
'Allow only one' doesn't immediately strike me as beneficial, but I see
what you mean. The discussion is similar to others (such as about which
init system to
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Apollon Oikonomopoulos apoi...@gmail.com
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Version : 0.4
Upstream Author : Jason Ferrara jason.ferr...@jacquette.com
* URL :
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 01:31:14PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
If we're making something GNOME-specific, we don't do that. If we make
an application that fits into any fdo-compliant notification area, we do.
Within GNOME we usually create a freedesktop.org solution, then use that
within
On Thu, 30 May 2013 13:54:35 +0200
Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de wrote:
On Thu, 30 May 2013 12:28:28 +0100, Neil Williams
codeh...@debian.org wrote:
What is the benefit of having a local email server installed on every
system compared to the space it takes up and the fact that it
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 01:51:11PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
On Thu, 30 May 2013 06:46:46 -0400, Scott Kitterman
deb...@kitterman.com wrote:
Even if they are using a system
that allows them to go back and review their notification history when they
return to their system,
It just occurred
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:22:34PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
This is the case with software that has a cooperative upstream.
systemd's upstream is known not to be.
I've seen as well as attended various conferences where systemd was
explained. There have also been various systemd specific events.
On 30-05-13 13:56, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 01:31:14PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
If we're making something GNOME-specific, we don't do that. If we make
an application that fits into any fdo-compliant notification area, we do.
Within GNOME we usually create a
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Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de writes:
On Thu, 30 May 2013 06:46:46 -0400, Scott Kitterman
deb...@kitterman.com wrote:
Even if they are using a system
that allows them to go back and review their notification history when they
return to their system,
It just occurred to me that you
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:21:33PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
The init system case is special because supporting another init script
system will most probably mean that all packages delivering an init
script ($ ls /etc/init.d/ | wc -l = 116 on my small notebook system)
will have to adapt. This
On May 30, Gergely Nagy alger...@balabit.hu wrote:
I never quite understood why people seem to think systemd upstream is
uncooperative (well, apart from the whole non-linux porting deal, where
their stance is completely understandable too). My experience so far
There is also the kill features
* Didier Raboud:
If we can't handle the backporting of serious security issues on top
of our stable version (in order to maximise the avoidance of
regressions), then maybe said software shouldn't be shipped in
stable in the first place. Thoughts ?
Which web browsers would remain in stable if
Le jeudi, 30 mai 2013 14.53:44, Florian Weimer a écrit :
* Didier Raboud:
If we can't handle the backporting of serious security issues on top
of our stable version (in order to maximise the avoidance of
regressions), then maybe said software shouldn't be shipped in
stable in the first
(I'm afraid to feed the troll)
2013/5/30 Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it:
On May 30, Gergely Nagy alger...@balabit.hu wrote:
I never quite understood why people seem to think systemd upstream is
uncooperative (well, apart from the whole non-linux porting deal, where
their stance is completely
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 06:36:32AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
In that case, I'd say they aren't bugs at all. It may be that a FTBFS with
clang is a symptom of some underlying issue that should be addressed, but I
don't think non-wishlist bugs should be filed ONLY on the basis of that
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 03:20:29PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
Which web browsers would remain in stable if we applied this criterion
consistently?
Although that makes me very sad, if we (collectively) give up packaging
browser extensions (hence letting our users rely on
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On Thursday, May 30, 2013 09:34:06 AM Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 06:36:32AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
In that case, I'd say they aren't bugs at all. It may be that a FTBFS
with
clang is a symptom of some underlying issue that should be addressed, but
I
don't
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
Which web browsers would remain in stable if we applied this criterion
consistently?
The best browser ever; lynx.
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* Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de [130530 12:39]:
While I don't consider postfix as bad as you describe, I tend to
describe Postfix as the menu in a better restaurant: A relatively
small number of sophisticated dishes which you can choose from, and
if you like them, you will be
Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
I have tried systemd, and I like the approach it has, and in a few years I
believe it has potential. But... using it to restart my computer i need to do
an hard reset (and think of how happy would I be if my computer had been a
server in a rack on the other side of
On 2013-05-29 20:50, Josh Triplett wrote:
As a user of sid who also maintains various systems running stable, I
rely on packages like xul-ext-adblock-plus to make it easier to install
specific addons systemwide. I find it much easier to install those via
the Debian packaging system rather than
Mathieu Parent wrote:
2013/5/30 Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it:
and the invent a new a configuration files scheme because it better
suits RPM and Red Hat policies deal.
Do you have an example?
I think he's referring to the etc-overrides-lib semantics that systemd
uses for configuration files.
Le 30 mai 2013 14:08, Dennis van Dok denni...@nikhef.nl a écrit :
On 30-05-13 13:16, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
Using only one lib for crypto (libnss) will allow to use only one
trust certificate format
'Allow only one' doesn't immediately strike me as beneficial, but I see
what you mean.
On Wed, 2013-05-29 at 12:19 +0200, Dennis van Dok wrote:
...which is included in mozilla. That discussion should be taken there
(indeed was[1]) as in Debian it was agreed we're not going to do better
than Mozilla at judging CAs[2].
Yeah... sure... I was just mentioning it...
Given that Mozilla
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 04:50:15PM +0300, Uoti Urpala wrote:
Do you have any reason at all to believe that these were problems with
systemd, rather than problems in Debian configuration or mostly
independent bugs in other software that happened to trigger under
systemd?
Whether or not systemd
Hi Moritz.
Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
In the future the majority of packages should thus rather be installed
through http://addons.mozilla.org instead of Debian packages.
Form a security POV, I think this is really quite dangerous... actually
tendency should go towards the direction that users
On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 07:53 -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
There's a reason it feels like this. Postfix was designed with security in
mind, but wasn't focused on being a general purpose MTA. It happens to
/work/
pretty well in that role in many cases, though.
On May 30, Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us wrote:
There's a reason it feels like this. Postfix was designed with security in
mind, but wasn't focused on being a general purpose MTA.
Says who? Because I was around at the time, and I remember pretty well
that the goal was to write a
Hello!
I am maintaining one of the gkrellm2 plugin packages, namely
gkrellm2-cpufreq. All of these gkrellm2 plugin packages install their
plugins into /usr/lib/gkrellm2/plugins, including mine.
However, I was wondering whether the plugins should actually
get installed into
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:02 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de wrote:
Hello!
I am maintaining one of the gkrellm2 plugin packages, namely
gkrellm2-cpufreq. All of these gkrellm2 plugin packages install their
plugins into /usr/lib/gkrellm2/plugins, including mine.
On May 30, Mathieu Parent math.par...@gmail.com wrote:
(I'm afraid to feed the troll)
Hint: before accusing somebody of trolling it is a good idea to find out
who he is.
There is also the kill features Red Hat does not care about deal,
Do you have an example?
Persistent naming of network
2013/5/30 Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it:
On May 30, Mathieu Parent math.par...@gmail.com wrote:
(I'm afraid to feed the troll)
Hint: before accusing somebody of trolling it is a good idea to find out
who he is.
I apologize.
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2013/5/30 Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it:
On May 30, Mathieu Parent math.par...@gmail.com wrote:
[···]
There is also the kill features Red Hat does not care about deal,
Do you have an example?
Persistent naming of network interfaces.
... is entirely optional, and can be disabled if someone
On 30/05/13 16:02, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
I am maintaining one of the gkrellm2 plugin packages, namely
gkrellm2-cpufreq. All of these gkrellm2 plugin packages install their
plugins into /usr/lib/gkrellm2/plugins, including mine.
This seems appropriate.
However, I was wondering
Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de writes:
Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us wrote:
I don't like the fact that the /etc/exim4/passwd.client file is in a
plaintext format, but there are usually several such files on systems
such that realistically we're only really safe as long as the
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+++ Simon McVittie [2013-05-30 16:27 +0100]:
The only plugins that do benefit from being Multi-Arch are those that
are loaded by more than one executable: glibc NSS modules, PAM modules,
ALSA plugins, that sort of thing.
Or plugins that are used in build-depends. I don't know if this ever
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 04:50:15PM +0300, Uoti Urpala wrote:
Do you have any reason at all to believe that these were problems with
systemd, rather than problems in Debian configuration or mostly
independent bugs in other software that happened to trigger under
Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de writes:
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
Using an imperative language for a descriptive purpose is a bad
mismatch of tools and has been ever since the practical effect of init
scripts has become fairly standardized.
Some init scripts in Debian
On Thu, 30 May 2013 13:31:14 +0200, Wouter Verhelst
wou...@debian.org wrote:
On 30-05-13 12:27, Marc Haber wrote:
We should make local mail or other messages trivially and
automatically visible for people who have installed Debian in NNF[1]
compliant way, but if one has gone to length to use
On Thu, 30 May 2013 13:56:02 +0200, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl
wrote:
Seems the solutions are very focussed on the assumption that things
cannot be changed. E.g. programs currently send email, so email it has
to be forever.
It is not a good idea to drop the way that 90 % of programs use to
Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it writes:
On May 30, Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us wrote:
There's a reason it feels like this. Postfix was designed with security in
mind, but wasn't focused on being a general purpose MTA.
Says who? Because I was around at the time, and I remember pretty
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Programming Lang: C
On Thu, 30 May 2013 16:42:28 +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer
cales...@scientia.net wrote:
Agreed,... but that also somehow indicates to me, that this would be the
more appropriate default MTA.
It will do quite securely what most people need, especially those end
user who have no clue about running
On Thu, 30 May 2013 16:53:56 +0200, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote:
I think that ease of configurability is a major plus for Postfix when
compared to Exim, since a common configurations is just a few lines long.
How many lines does an average update-exim4.conf.conf have?
Greetings
Marc
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On Thu, 30 May 2013 12:32:59 +0100, Simon McVittie s...@debian.org
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On 30/05/13 11:19, Marc Haber wrote:
On Wed, 29 May 2013 13:10:57 -0700, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org
wrote:
Using an imperative language for a descriptive purpose is a bad mismatch
of tools and has been ever since the
On Thu, 30 May 2013 17:07:08 +0200, Matthias Klumpp m...@debian.org
wrote:
So, this is not really RHEL specific, and some other non-RH software
also has this scheme of storing config files.
And it is still completely inferior even to dpkg-conffile handling,
which has huge wishes left open as
On Thu, 30 May 2013 14:16:53 +0200, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl
wrote:
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:21:33PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
The init system case is special because supporting another init script
system will most probably mean that all packages delivering an init
script ($ ls
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 04:35:07PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On May 30, Mathieu Parent math.par...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you have an example?
The /etc/ /lib/ /usr/lib/ split with files overriding each other,
invented because RPM systems do not prompt the user on package upgrades
and Red Hat
Matthias Klumpp wrote:
013/5/30 Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it:
On May 30, Mathieu Parent math.par...@gmail.com wrote:
[···]
There is also the kill features Red Hat does not care about deal,
Do you have an example?
Persistent naming of network interfaces.
... is entirely optional, and can
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 08:35:52PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
Please leave the FUD at the door. Writing upstart jobs is not difficult;
while there are some gotchas currently with process lifecycle (which will be
fixed soon), there is also very complete documentation (for these
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 04:27:43PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
Anyone knows how Multi-Arch is handled for other similar plugin
packages, other than gkrellm2 plugins?
telepathy-mission-control-5 specifically isn't Multi-Arch, because I
didn't want to do a small transition (Mission Control +
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:32:59PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
On 30/05/13 11:19, Marc Haber wrote:
On Wed, 29 May 2013 13:10:57 -0700, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org
wrote:
Using an imperative language for a descriptive purpose is a bad mismatch
of tools and has been ever since the
On 05/30/2013 09:29 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 03:20:29PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
Which web browsers would remain in stable if we applied this criterion
consistently?
Although that makes me very sad, if we (collectively) give up packaging
browser
On 30/05/13 13:19, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Dennis van Dok denni...@nikhef.nl wrote:
On 26-05-13 20:02, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote:
Hi Dennis and everybody,
somewhat related to this, I
On 30-05-13 19:29, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Maybe the best way forward is to have backports activated by default
No.
If we're going down that route, we might as well give up on doing a
stable release.
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