Re: Bits from the release team: full steam ahead towards buster

2018-04-17 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Hi, When all people can complain about are the codenames, it means we are doing things fairly well :) On 18/04/18 08:20, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > On Wed, 2018-04-18 at 11:16 +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: >> No, users and, I suspect, a large part of admins and developers cannot >> easily say whi

Re: Completed: lists.alioth.debian.org migration

2018-04-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 08:42:22 PM Holger Levsen wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:39:22PM +0200, Christoph Biedl wrote: > > Also, @lists.alioth.debian.org addresses that were *not* migrated now > > result in bounces as expected. Are there already plans for a MBF > > severity RC against all p

Re: Bits from the release team: full steam ahead towards buster

2018-04-17 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 09:20:11AM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > No, users and, I suspect, a large part of admins and developers cannot > > easily say which of two codenames is newer, and it doesn't matter what are > > those two codenames. Numeric versions are usually used to help with this, > >

Re: Bits from the release team: full steam ahead towards buster

2018-04-17 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Wed, 2018-04-18 at 11:16 +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > No, users and, I suspect, a large part of admins and developers cannot > easily say which of two codenames is newer, and it doesn't matter what are > those two codenames. Numeric versions are usually used to help with this, > but not so

Re: Bits from the release team: full steam ahead towards buster

2018-04-17 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:34:22PM +0200, Christoph Biedl wrote: > There are people who don't follow every single action in Debian, plain > stables users for example. For them it's helpful to tell the releases > apart easily as they might not have the precise names and their order in > mind. The fi

Re: Completed: lists.alioth.debian.org migration

2018-04-17 Thread Christoph Biedl
Holger Levsen wrote... > please file bugs, so that autoremovals can kick in. Thanks. Sheesh, it's not about removing package but keeping them. By making sure they are in good shape which, among many other things, means there is a working well-defined maintainer contact address.

Re: problems in gjots2 and Debian

2018-04-17 Thread Rolf Leggewie
On 18.04.2018 13:19, Rolf Leggewie wrote: > I get all this for maintaining a number of packages for 10+ years in > Debian BTW, one of the first packages if not THE first package was gjots2.  And I had to go through a lengthy and cumbersome MIA process to take over.  Seems like the rules do not app

problems in gjots2 and Debian

2018-04-17 Thread Rolf Leggewie
Wookey wrote: > > > I had had a look at the new upstream quite a while ago and found > > > several bugs so I reported them upstream and held off releasing > > > to Debian. > > > > > > https://sourceforge.net/p/gjots2/bugs/ > > Someone new to this can't tell from this message or that list of 20 bug

Re: Lucas Kanashiro and Athos Ribeiro fixed my package and i didnt like it

2018-04-17 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Tue, Apr 17 2018, Holger Levsen wrote: > I really don't get the fuzz about your upload. As I see it, you fixed > 4 problems and made 2 (easily fixable) mistakes, which could have been > fixed easily if pointed out nicely, eg. via a bug. And the upload was > definitly justified (even if

Re: salvaging packages, was Re: Lucas Kanashiro and Athos Ribeiro salvaged my package

2018-04-17 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Wed, Apr 18 2018, Paul Wise wrote: > I'm guessing you are referring to this file? Yes. > infinote://gobby.debian.org/debconf17/bof/if_you_love_a_package_let_it_go > https://gobby.debian.org/export/debconf17/bof/if_you_love_a_package_let_it_go I didn't know there existed URLs to parti

Re: salvaging packages, was Re: Lucas Kanashiro and Athos Ribeiro salvaged my package

2018-04-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:09 AM, Sean Whitton wrote: > Yes. Take a look on gobby (apt-get install gobby and connect to > gobby.debian.org). I'm guessing you are referring to this file? infinote://gobby.debian.org/debconf17/bof/if_you_love_a_package_let_it_go https://gobby.debian.org/export/deb

Re: Bug#886968: btrfs-progs-udeb: depends on non-udeb: libzstd1

2018-04-17 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi, Dimitri John Ledkov (2018-04-17): > First, I apologize for not responding to this email earlier, as I have > missed it in my mailbox. It's a mail from hours ago, so there's no apology needed. > Secondly, my work has been blocked by this NEW processing too for > btrfs-progs. I'm not aware as

Re: Lucas Kanashiro and Athos Ribeiro hijack my package

2018-04-17 Thread Sergio Durigan Junior
On Tuesday, April 17 2018, Athos Ribeiro wrote: > @debian-devel: > > I am sorry my past actions have been taking so much time of everyone > else, which could be put into something more productive for the > community. No need to apologize, mistakes happen and they provide a way to learn more about

Re: alioth deprecation - next steps

2018-04-17 Thread James Clarke
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:37:40PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:31:58PM +0100, James Clarke wrote: > > Even the wiki page you linked there states that GitLab "allows extra > > files to be attached to the tag". > > But it does not say how. > Research shows that while git

Re: alioth deprecation - next steps

2018-04-17 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:31:58PM +0100, James Clarke wrote: > > Even the wiki page you linked there states that GitLab "allows extra > > files to be attached to the tag". > > But it does not say how. > Research shows that while gitlab has plan to imp

Re: libzstd_1.3.3+dfsg-2_multi.changes REJECTED

2018-04-17 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
Hi, On 17 April 2018 at 20:00, Thorsten Alteholz wrote: > > as requested by waldi ... > With all due respect to yourself, waldi, and ftp-team (masters & assistants & wizards), I find this reject comment inappropriate, and not at all informative enough. As far as I can tell, the package uploaded

Re: Bug#886968: btrfs-progs-udeb: depends on non-udeb: libzstd1

2018-04-17 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 17 April 2018 at 19:01, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Dimitri John Ledkov (2018-01-15): >> On 15 January 2018 at 00:27, Cyril Brulebois wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Cyril Brulebois (2018-01-12): >> >> Your package is no longer installable (along with its rev-dep >> >> partman-btrfs) because it now d

Re: alioth deprecation - next steps

2018-04-17 Thread James Clarke
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:10:56PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Bill Allombert wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 01:00:56PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > as you should be aware, alioth.debian.org will be decommissioned with > > > the EOL of wheezy, whi

Re: alioth deprecation - next steps

2018-04-17 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:10:56PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Bill Allombert wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 01:00:56PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > as you should be aware, alioth.debian.

Re: alioth deprecation - next steps

2018-04-17 Thread Bill Allombert
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:31:58PM +0100, James Clarke wrote: > Even the wiki page you linked there states that GitLab "allows extra > files to be attached to the tag". But it does not say how. Research shows that while gitlab has plan to implement the feature, it is not actually implemented yet.

Re: alioth deprecation - next steps

2018-04-17 Thread Bill Allombert
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:10:56PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Bill Allombert wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 01:00:56PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > as you should be aware, alioth.debian.org will be decommissioned with > > > the EOL of wheezy, w

Re: Lucas Kanashiro and Athos Ribeiro hijack my package

2018-04-17 Thread Athos Ribeiro
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 08:28:08AM +0800, Rolf Leggewie wrote: > Dear fellow maintainers, dear Lucas and Atheros, Hi Rolf, > I'd like to use this opportunity to relay my experiences with Lucas > Kanashiro (kanash...@debian.org) and Athos Ribeiro > (athoscribe...@gmail.com). TL;DR Going purely by

"my package" vs "a package I maintain"

2018-04-17 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, On 16/04/18 at 08:28 +0800, Rolf Leggewie wrote: > Lucas and Atheros hijacked my package [...] I know I'm late to the thread, but I wanted to make another point. You write "my package". I think that as Debian maintainers, we should try to avoid talking about "*my* package", but rather use e.

Re: Lucas Kanashiro and Athos Ribeiro fixed my package and i didnt like it

2018-04-17 Thread Holger Levsen
Dear Lucas, (it was really nice to meet you in Curitiba and I'm looking forward to meet you again in the next weeks in Sao Paulo!) Please relay my condolences to Athos, I wish this wouldnt have demotivated him, though I'd totally understand if he spents his time on more fun things to do in future

Re: alioth deprecation - next steps

2018-04-17 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 01:00:56PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > as you should be aware, alioth.debian.org will be decommissioned with > > the EOL of wheezy, which is at the end of May. The replacement for > > the main part of alioth, gi

Re: Completed: lists.alioth.debian.org migration

2018-04-17 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:39:22PM +0200, Christoph Biedl wrote: > A few questions, though (asking for a friend, of course). It might have > been mentioned before but I have missed it then. > > What is the long-term plan for this service? Indefinitely, or are users > kindly asked to move away from

Re: my package was fixed by someone else and i dont like that

2018-04-17 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 08:38:52PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > You could make the point that he should have posted to debian-private > instead of debian-devel. Rolf is a DM, so he cannot read debian-private and he might not even know it exists. > In any case naming the people who did this is requ

Re: alioth deprecation - next steps

2018-04-17 Thread Bill Allombert
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 01:00:56PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > Hi, > > as you should be aware, alioth.debian.org will be decommissioned with > the EOL of wheezy, which is at the end of May. The replacement for > the main part of alioth, git, is alive and out of beta, you know it > as salsa.debi

Re: hijack my thread

2018-04-17 Thread Wookey
On 2018-04-17 12:27 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 12:49:36PM +0100, Wookey wrote: > > On 2018-04-17 13:15 +0800, Rolf Leggewie wrote: > > > > the ticket now does > > > serve a purpose in documenting publicly why there was no upload to > > > gjots2 in unstable over many yea

Re: Bits from the release team: full steam ahead towards buster

2018-04-17 Thread Philipp Kern
On 17.04.2018 22:34, Christoph Biedl wrote: > Also, choosing the names in sorted order (modulo wraparound) would > create a list in historic order of the releases, easing some assessment > when talking about releases. That's what Ubuntu does, although using > consecutive letters is nice but not nec

Re: Completed: lists.alioth.debian.org migration

2018-04-17 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:39:22PM +0200, Christoph Biedl wrote: > Also, @lists.alioth.debian.org addresses that were *not* migrated now > result in bounces as expected. Are there already plans for a MBF > severity RC against all packages with a now-failing maintainer address? > This might become r

Re: hijack my thread

2018-04-17 Thread Geert Stappers
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 12:27:03PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > https://sourceforge.net/p/gjots2/bugs/ > > Someone new to this can't tell from this message or that list of 20 bugs > > (none of which obvisouly have your name on), what it is about the > > package which is so buggy that a new ve

Re: Completed: lists.alioth.debian.org migration

2018-04-17 Thread Christoph Biedl
Mathias Behrle wrote... > Big thanks to all involved also from my side, it is great to have the mailing > lists seamlessly running! Seconded. A few questions, though (asking for a friend, of course). It might have been mentioned before but I have missed it then. What is the long-term plan for

Re: Bits from the release team: full steam ahead towards buster

2018-04-17 Thread Christoph Biedl
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote... > We are about halfway through the buster development cycle, and a release > update was overdue. Thanks for all the updates, let's make this an exiting ride. But briefly bleating by boldly bringing balking bits ... > Future codenames > So we'll

Re: Usage of real m68k hardware

2018-04-17 Thread Ingo Jürgensmann
Am 17.04.2018 um 19:15 schrieb Thorsten Glaser : >> Yes, of course. But Andreas hit a nerve with this on me. This project >> has cost me lots of blood, tears and sweat and if someone is asking >> for it to be completely thrown out out of nothing, I'm getting a bit >> stressed out. > I completely a

hijack my thread

2018-04-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 12:49:36PM +0100, Wookey wrote: > On 2018-04-17 13:15 +0800, Rolf Leggewie wrote: > > the ticket now does > > serve a purpose in documenting publicly why there was no upload to > > gjots2 in unstable over many years.  The reason given is still valid, > > that hasn't changed

Bug#895948: ITP: detachtty -- Utility to connect to detached interactive programs

2018-04-17 Thread Giovanni Mascellani
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Giovanni Mascellani * Package name: detachtty Version : 11.0.0 Upstream Author : Massimiliano Ghilardi * URL : https://github.com/cosmos72/detachtty * License : GPL-2+ Programming Lang: C Description : Utility

Re: my package was fixed by someone else and i dont like that

2018-04-17 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 12:43:57PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > Rolf, > > first of all, you immediatly lost your argument by putting peoples name > in the subject of a mail to debian-devel. This is really bad style > (called fingerpointing) and I wish you hadn't done this. Based on this > behavio

Re: Usage of real m68k hardware

2018-04-17 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Adrian wrote: >Yes, of course. But Andreas hit a nerve with this on me. This project >has cost me lots of blood, tears and sweat and if someone is asking >for it to be completely thrown out out of nothing, I'm getting a bit >stressed out. I completely agree here. While I’m no longer involved with

Re: Bug#895928: ITP: python-base58 -- base58 encode/decode for Python

2018-04-17 Thread Daniele Nicolodi
On 4/17/18 8:57 AM, Joel Cross wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Joel Cross > > * Package name: python-base58 > Version : 0.2.5 > Upstream Author : David Keijser > * URL : https://github.com/keis/base58 > * License : MIT > Programming Lang

Re: alioth deprecation - next steps

2018-04-17 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi Holger, > Alexander, thanks for the update on the alioth migration! > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 01:00:56PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > 17.-20.05.18: During the Mini-DebConf Hamburg any existing cron jobs will > > be turned off, websites still o

Re: salvaging packages, was Re: Lucas Kanashiro and Athos Ribeiro salvaged my package

2018-04-17 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello gustavo, On Tue, Apr 17 2018, gustavo panizzo wrote: > Besides the thread, are you aware of anything written down somewhere? Yes. Take a look on gobby (apt-get install gobby and connect to gobby.debian.org). -- Sean Whitton signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: alioth deprecation - next steps

2018-04-17 Thread Holger Levsen
Alexander, thanks for the update on the alioth migration! On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 01:00:56PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > 17.-20.05.18: During the Mini-DebConf Hamburg any existing cron jobs will be > turned off, websites still on alioth will be disabled. we currently use https://reproducible.

Bug#895928: ITP: python-base58 -- base58 encode/decode for Python

2018-04-17 Thread Joel Cross
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Joel Cross * Package name: python-base58 Version : 0.2.5 Upstream Author : David Keijser * URL : https://github.com/keis/base58 * License : MIT Programming Lang: Python Description : base58 encode/decode for Pyth

Re: MBF proposal: python modules that fail to import

2018-04-17 Thread Herbert Fortes
Em 16-04-2018 17:16, Helmut Grohne escreveu: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 04:14:21PM -0300, Herbert Fortes wrote: >> Package python3-dj-static is on the dd-list. But I can import it. >> >> # on a bananapi >> >> $ python3 >> Python 3.5.3 (default, Jan 19 2017, 14:11:04) >> [GCC 6.3.0 20170124] on linu

Re: missing recommends are not RC severity

2018-04-17 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 09:21:31AM -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 9:16 AM, Holger Levsen wrote: > > (not sure this makes sense as the practical impact is a normal bug, but > > Since I was CC'd on this email and I've filed several Serious bugs for > this issue, here is what I

Re: missing recommends are not RC severity

2018-04-17 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 9:16 AM, Holger Levsen wrote: > (not sure this makes sense as the practical impact is a normal bug, but Since I was CC'd on this email and I've filed several Serious bugs for this issue, here is what I've been using lately: "It is my understanding that is a RC bug for pac

Re: missing recommends are not RC severity

2018-04-17 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 01:04:47PM +, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >if your package recommends a package which is not available, this is a > >normal bug, not one with RC severity (and neither an important one). > > Policy 2.2.1 pretty clearly says otherwise. wow, I stand corrected, thanks. (not

Re: missing recommends are not RC severity

2018-04-17 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 01:04:47PM +, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >if your package recommends a package which is not available, this is a > >normal bug, not one with RC severity (and neither an important one). > > Policy 2.2.1 pretty clearly says otherwise. Whlile the release policy says "Package

Re: missing recommends are not RC severity

2018-04-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On April 17, 2018 12:52:32 PM UTC, Holger Levsen wrote: >folks, > >if your package recommends a package which is not available, this is a >normal bug, not one with RC severity (and neither an important one). Policy 2.2.1 pretty clearly says otherwise. Scott K

missing recommends are not RC severity

2018-04-17 Thread Holger Levsen
folks, if your package recommends a package which is not available, this is a normal bug, not one with RC severity (and neither an important one). -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Lucas Kanashiro and Athos Ribeiro hijack my package

2018-04-17 Thread Wookey
On 2018-04-17 13:15 +0800, Rolf Leggewie wrote: > the ticket now does > serve a purpose in documenting publicly why there was no upload to > gjots2 in unstable over many years.  The reason given is still valid, > that hasn't changed, no update needed there. It sums up the state of > gjots2 pretty

Re: MBF proposal: python modules that fail to import

2018-04-17 Thread Herbert Fortes
> > In my initial mail there is a draft.gz that contains the proposed bug > reports. Searching for python3-dj-static yields: > > | After installing python3-dj-static importing the module dj_static > | into a python interpreter fails with the following error: > | > | Traceback (most recent call

Bug#895891: ITP: golang-github-vimeo-go-magic -- Go bindings for libmagic

2018-04-17 Thread Sascha Steinbiss
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sascha Steinbiss * Package name: golang-github-vimeo-go-magic Version : 0.0~git20180208.aff138d-1 Upstream Author : Vimeo, LLC. * URL : https://github.com/vimeo/go-magic * License : BSD-2-clause Programming Lang: Go D

Re: hijack of gjots2 package

2018-04-17 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 1:02 AM, Rolf Leggewie wrote: > I am happy you and Athos want to contribute to Debian. My beef is that > you need to do it the proper way (failure #1). And that you need to own > up to and correct in a reasonable time frame mistakes you make (failure > #2). So you gave L

salvaging packages, was Re: Lucas Kanashiro and Athos Ribeiro salvaged my package

2018-04-17 Thread gustavo panizzo
Hi On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 09:43:10AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: [snip] I remember that this discussion comes up quite regularly (no statistic but to my feeling once a year). I'd love if we could give fix rules to yes, yes, yes. I remember this conversation starting and fading every

Why I am (as of now) not using salsa

2018-04-17 Thread Rolf Leggewie
Hello, some people inquired why I am not using salsa for hosting debian packaging information in the "other" thread.  With alioth being decomissioned I had to decide where to move.  Some of my upstreams and co-maintainers are already doing their work in github.com, so it was a natural choice.  Fur

Re: Lucas Kanashiro and Athos Ribeiro hijack my package

2018-04-17 Thread Rolf Leggewie
On 17.04.2018 07:42, Clint Adams wrote: >> In fact, I have always taken my >> responsibilities seriously.  There are good reasons there was no >> upload.  If they had bothered to check the upstream bug tracker or the > Were there also good reasons why you don't respond to bug reports except > to ye

Re: Hi, I am blind

2018-04-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Paul Wise, le mar. 17 avril 2018 11:20:15 +0800, a ecrit: > On Mon, 2018-04-16 at 10:15 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Well, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=855446 > > accessible-via seems different to what I propose. > > accessible-via references software that makes each