Re: Handling Japanese new era "令和 (Reiwa)"

2019-04-13 Thread Hideki Yamane
On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:37:15 +0200 Rene Engelhard wrote: > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=926892 > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=926891 Great! :) I hope it'll reach to buster/stretch. -- Hideki Yamane

Re: Handling Japanese new era "令和 (Reiwa)"

2019-04-13 Thread Hideki Yamane
On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 10:32:54 +0100 Alastair McKinstry wrote: > unicode-data in Buster is currently at 11.0.0; there being a major > release upstream 12.0.0 just after Buster freeze. > > I've uploaded 12.0.0 to unstable; 12.1 is not officially released yet. > unicode-data itself is small and e

Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells"

2019-04-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 13, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > TL;DR: see https://trends.debian.net and Nice. I suggest to add a graph detailing: - packages with at least one init script - packages with at least one systemd unit - packages with at least one init script and one systemd unit Also, did I miss the memo about

Re: Bug#926951: ITP: python3-git-archive-all -- Archive repository with all its submodules

2019-04-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, April 13, 2019 10:03:23 PM Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 4/12/19 7:31 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Friday, April 12, 2019 01:08:26 PM Mark A. Hershberger wrote: > >> Package: wnpp > >> Owner: Mark A. Hershberger > >> Severity: wishlist > >> > >> Package name: python3-git-archi

Re: Bug#926951: ITP: python3-git-archive-all -- Archive repository with all its submodules

2019-04-13 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 4/12/19 7:31 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Friday, April 12, 2019 01:08:26 PM Mark A. Hershberger wrote: >> Package: wnpp >> Owner: Mark A. Hershberger >> Severity: wishlist >> >> Package name: python3-git-archive-all >> Version : 1.19.4 >> Upstream Author : Ilya Kulakov >> U

Re: PPAs (Re: [Idea] Debian User Repository? (Not simply mimicing AUR))

2019-04-13 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 4/8/19 7:16 PM, Shengjing Zhu wrote: >> from PPA (source+binary-based). > > If people just want a PPA which supports Debian, please just take a > look at OBS[1]. > > I've seen many upstreams provide packages with OBS, and most > distributions are supported. > Not only deb, but also rpm, from D

Song Submission - "Lonely"

2019-04-13 Thread Nathan Wagner
I wanted to submit my song "Lonely". The response I've gotten thus far has been so absolutely humbling. I can't even believe it. I've heard from several people who were ready to take their lives that somehow, this song came on, and gave them strength to keep moving forward. Absolutely blows my mind

Re: pbuilder: create: how to set specific UID for some system user (e.g., _apt)

2019-04-13 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 11:29:47AM +0400, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > on my box I put special access for _apt. Now I would like to create some > pbuilder ball. > But the creation process is getting stick because _apt is set with an > arbitrary UID. > What is the best way, if we can, to set this arbitr

Bug#927020: ITP: golang-github-jesseduffield-pty -- Go package for using Unix pseudo-terminals

2019-04-13 Thread Jongmin Kim
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jongmin Kim X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian...@lists.debian.org * Package name: golang-github-jesseduffield-pty Version : 1.1.3+git20181218.02db52c-1 Upstream Author : Jesse Duffield * URL : https://github.co

Bug#927018: ITP: golang-github-jesseduffield-termbox-go -- pure Go implementation of termbox library

2019-04-13 Thread Jongmin Kim
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jongmin Kim X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian...@lists.debian.org * Package name: golang-github-jesseduffield-termbox-go Version : 0.0~git20180919.1e272ff-1 Upstream Author : Jesse Duffield * URL : https://gith

Bug#927019: ITP: golang-github-jesseduffield-gocui -- minimalist console user interfaces Go library

2019-04-13 Thread Jongmin Kim
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jongmin Kim X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian...@lists.debian.org * Package name: golang-github-jesseduffield-gocui Version : 0.3.0+git20190409.1b91467-1 Upstream Author : Jesse Duffield * URL : https://github.

Re: Golang >= 1.12 in Buster?

2019-04-13 Thread Eric Cooper
On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 09:54:18PM +0800, Shengjing Zhu wrote: > FWIW, golang-1.12 was removed from buster, because the RT think > there're too many golang for buster[1]. > At first we have golang-1.{10,11,12} in testing. > > [1] https://tracker.debian.org/news/1024215/golang-112-removed-from-testi

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello! Just as a heads-up: Sending mail to debian-ports@l.d.o ends up sending the mail to debian-alpha@, debian-hppa@, debian-ia64@, ... simultaneously, so it would be better to avoid using this address in the discussion. Thanks, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Develo

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 15371 March 1977, Aurelien Jarno wrote: How is the move to debian-ports supposed to happen? I won't have the time to do anything about it within the 2 weeks. The process to inject all packages to debian-ports is to get all the deb, udeb and buildinfo files from the archives (main and debug

Re: Golang >= 1.12 in Buster?

2019-04-13 Thread Shengjing Zhu
On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 8:12 PM Toni Mueller wrote: > > > Hello, > > I just figured that Buster is, from the current POV, going to ship with > Golang 1.11. While I am new to Go, I figured that we should probably > have a newer version of Golang in Buster, as they are now doing > versioned dependen

Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells"

2019-04-13 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 10:20:53 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > TL;DR: see https://trends.debian.net and > https://trends.debian.net/#smells Very nice, thank you. > [4] https://trends.debian.net/smells-dd-list.txt This list is slightly unhelpful (for my case / the Debian Perl Group) as it reports

Re: native packages? (Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells")

2019-04-13 Thread Alf Gaida
On 13.04.19 15:07, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 12:59:19PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: I see no point whatsoever in 3.0 (native). What's the point/advantage of native packages? No need to make a separate orig tarball. Can't agree more, there are places where 3.0 (quilt|git

Re: native packages? (Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells")

2019-04-13 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 12:59:19PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > > > I see no point whatsoever in 3.0 (native). > > The main advantage of 3.0 (native) is that it makes it explicit that > > the package is deliberately native [...] > > ok, sorry, I ment to say: I see no point whatsoever in native pa

Re: native packages? (Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells")

2019-04-13 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 01:48:01PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 at 10:04:10 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > > I see no point whatsoever in 3.0 (native). > The main advantage of 3.0 (native) is that it makes it explicit that > the package is deliberately native [...] ok, sorry,

Re: native packages? (Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells")

2019-04-13 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 at 10:04:10 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > I see no point whatsoever in 3.0 (native). The main advantage of 3.0 (native) is that it makes it explicit that the package is deliberately native, whereas a 1.0 native package is indistinguishable from a package that was intended to be

Golang >= 1.12 in Buster?

2019-04-13 Thread Toni Mueller
Hello, I just figured that Buster is, from the current POV, going to ship with Golang 1.11. While I am new to Go, I figured that we should probably have a newer version of Golang in Buster, as they are now doing versioned dependencies, but only starting with 1.12 or 1.13 (not quite sure about th

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On 2019-04-13 13:07, Philipp Kern wrote: > On 4/13/2019 12:49 PM, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > The process to inject all packages to debian-ports is to get all the > > deb, udeb and buildinfo files from the archives (main and debug) and > > associate them with the .changes files that are hosted on coc

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Philipp Kern
On 4/13/2019 12:49 PM, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > The process to inject all packages to debian-ports is to get all the > deb, udeb and buildinfo files from the archives (main and debug) and > associate them with the .changes files that are hosted on coccia. We'll > also need to fetch all the associate

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Carsten Schoenert, le sam. 13 avril 2019 12:41:25 +0200, a ecrit: > Am 13.04.19 um 12:06 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > >> Both architectures haven't seen any major development in the past years > > > > They have. > > O.k. need to be more specific, so the same as you mentioned further > down, ..."in

Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells"

2019-04-13 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 10:20:53AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > https://trends.debian.net/#smells there are two minor issues with the smells *graph*: not using salsa should only be graphed since salsa exists (and not since 2005), same for compat < 9. -- tschau, Holger ---

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On 2019-04-12 23:01, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hello, > > Joerg Jaspert, le ven. 12 avril 2019 22:48:42 +0200, a ecrit: > > back in August 2018 we discussed architecture inclusion into > > unstable/experimental. > > > > Today we had our regular FTPMaster meeting and discussed hurd and both > > kfr

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Svante Signell, le sam. 13 avril 2019 12:36:54 +0200, a ecrit: > On Sat, 2019-04-13 at 12:18 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > He rightfully means he does not want patches, but patches getting > > submitted upstream, so he does not have to maintain them. A Debian > > package maintainer is not suppo

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Carsten Schoenert
Samuel, Am 13.04.19 um 12:06 schrieb Samuel Thibault: >> I can't follow that style of discussion. > > Please don't, Svante is only trolling here, please don't feed him. yes, this is true. As you've answered in your other email, such emails bringing no real gain or progress. >> I haven't seen a

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Svante Signell
On Sat, 2019-04-13 at 12:18 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > He rightfully means he does not want patches, but patches getting > submitted upstream, so he does not have to maintain them. A Debian > package maintainer is not supposed to maintain patches long-term. Then the question of which respo

Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells"

2019-04-13 Thread Shengjing Zhu
On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 4:21 PM Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > TL;DR: see https://trends.debian.net and > https://trends.debian.net/#smells > These graphs look ambiguous... Shouldn't the x-axis be year? -- Shengjing Zhu

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Svante Signell, le sam. 13 avril 2019 12:13:41 +0200, a ecrit: > On Sat, 2019-04-13 at 11:51 +0200, Carsten Schoenert wrote: > > So I disagree on "One person is enough" as long this one person can > > not keep track on all the required main and corner cases so other > > maintainers get to do the wo

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Holger Levsen, le sam. 13 avril 2019 09:50:25 +, a ecrit: > On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 09:31:46AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Samuel Thibault, le sam. 13 avril 2019 00:11:15 +0200, a ecrit: > > > Joerg Jaspert, le ven. 12 avril 2019 23:30:31 +0200, a ecrit: > > > > It seems to exist there, s

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Svante Signell
On Sat, 2019-04-13 at 11:51 +0200, Carsten Schoenert wrote: > Am 13.04.19 um 11:15 schrieb Svante Signell: > > > Please give up on Debian. They clearly have no interest in anything > > non-linux or non-systemd, that is fully clear. Let's make a joint > > effort to make a Guix release of Hurd (and

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Carsten Schoenert, le sam. 13 avril 2019 11:51:51 +0200, a ecrit: > > Please give up on Debian. They clearly have no interest in anything > > non-linux or non-systemd, that is fully clear. Let's make a joint > > effort to make a Guix release of Hurd (and kFreeBSD) happen. Or, if you > > still want

native packages? (Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells")

2019-04-13 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 11:42:38AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Well you could switch to 3.0 (native). I see no point whatsoever in 3.0 (native). IMO 3.0 (quilt) is sensible and 1.0 too, whether native or not. *If* native package in todays world are still sensible... > > But you don't conside

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le sam. 13 avril 2019 11:57:20 +0200, a ecrit: > That kind of mail is useless. I actually meant: it is also harmful. Samuel

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
That kind of mail is useless. Samuel

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Carsten Schoenert
Am 13.04.19 um 11:15 schrieb Svante Signell: > Please give up on Debian. They clearly have no interest in anything > non-linux or non-systemd, that is fully clear. Let's make a joint > effort to make a Guix release of Hurd (and kFreeBSD) happen. Or, if you > still want to continue using apt-style

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 09:31:46AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Samuel Thibault, le sam. 13 avril 2019 00:11:15 +0200, a ecrit: > > Joerg Jaspert, le ven. 12 avril 2019 23:30:31 +0200, a ecrit: > > > It seems to exist there, so probably someone who can upload there and > > > is interested in hur

Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells"

2019-04-13 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 13/04/19 at 09:28 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi Lucas, > > On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 10:20:53AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > TL;DR: see https://trends.debian.net and > > https://trends.debian.net/#smells > > that's beautiful! thank you! > > > [4] https://trends.debian.net/smells-dd-list.

Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells"

2019-04-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Lucas, On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 10:20:53AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > TL;DR: see https://trends.debian.net and > https://trends.debian.net/#smells that's beautiful! thank you! > [4] https://trends.debian.net/smells-dd-list.txt for me there are two smelly packages, src:tuxtype should use s

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Svante Signell
On Sat, 2019-04-13 at 10:58 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Joerg Jaspert, le sam. 13 avril 2019 10:24:53 +0200, a ecrit: > > On 15371 March 1977, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > Well, it's very odd that a team decision is suddenly made with a > two-week effect without asking whether the schedule

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Joerg Jaspert, le sam. 13 avril 2019 10:24:53 +0200, a ecrit: > On 15371 March 1977, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > > It seems to exist there, so probably someone who can upload there and > > > > is interested in hurd-i386 goes and uploads stuff. > > > Within a two-week timeframe only? > > (while

Re: Introducing Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells"

2019-04-13 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 13/04/19 at 10:24 +0200, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > On 4/13/19 10:20 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > Additionally (and much more controversially I guess :-) ) I also added > > an analysis of "package smells"[3], such as "not using dh", "not using a > > recent debhelper compat level", "not usin

Re: Flatpak apps from Debian packages

2019-04-13 Thread Simon McVittie
(Belatedly changing the subject line, sorry for the digression...) On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 at 09:34:54 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > I expected the Flatpak /app directory to also be entirely read-only, > are there parts of /app that are not read-only? /app is also (separately) read-only, and points into

Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells"

2019-04-13 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 4/13/19 10:20 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Additionally (and much more controversially I guess :-) ) I also added > an analysis of "package smells"[3], such as "not using dh", "not using a > recent debhelper compat level", "not using a 3.0 source format", etc. I > understand that in some cases th

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 15371 March 1977, Samuel Thibault wrote: > It seems to exist there, so probably someone who can upload there and > is interested in hurd-i386 goes and uploads stuff. Within a two-week timeframe only? (while everybody is supposed to be busy fixing RC bugs) I just jumped over old threads - i

Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells"

2019-04-13 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
TL;DR: see https://trends.debian.net and https://trends.debian.net/#smells Hi, Following this blog post[1] I did some work on setting up a proper framework to graph historical trends about Debian packaging practices. The result is now available at [2], and I'm confident that I will be able to upd

pbuilder: create: how to set specific UID for some system user (e.g., _apt)

2019-04-13 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello, on my box I put special access for _apt. Now I would like to create some pbuilder ball. But the creation process is getting stick because _apt is set with an arbitrary UID. What is the best way, if we can, to set this arbitrary UID for _apt to the one used in my firewall ? Thanks in adv

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le sam. 13 avril 2019 00:11:15 +0200, a ecrit: > Joerg Jaspert, le ven. 12 avril 2019 23:30:31 +0200, a ecrit: > > It seems to exist there, so probably someone who can upload there and > > is interested in hurd-i386 goes and uploads stuff. > > Within a two-week timeframe only? (w