Re: locale problem with latest packages

1999-05-18 Thread Anders Arnholm
Raphael Hertzog wrote: Le Mon, May 17, 1999 at 06:08:01PM +0200, Michael Meskes écrivait: I just updated libc6 and locales to the latest packages and now my locale de_DE does not work anymore. Perl tells me it's falling back to default. Others like date just refuse to use it. What's

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-22 Thread Anders Arnholm
Joseph Carter wrote: And neither are very friendly to new users. ae doesn't work like you'd Editing configfiles isn't friendly to new users, even if they get a simple editor.

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-22 Thread Anders Arnholm
Steve Lamb wrote: Hmm, I don't know about this. An inexperienced user is unlikely to know how to recover their system anyway, so why bother putting an editor there that they can use by themselves? Who said recovery? We're talking the boot disks, system installation. Last time I looked

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was:

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
Steve Lamb wrote: domain of individuals who do not have a packaging system. Debian has a very strong packaging system so the separation is not needed. Then could you please show me a way to share /usr/bin over nfs? I see the need to install, the idea in /usr/share is that it should be

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
Steve Lamb wrote: Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 1:45:46 PM, Marek wrote: Which would be for what reason? When for example it is mounted on a cdrom as a live CD system. Enough? /usr/local, where you're going to keep local, custom builds of things, i That are hopefully located

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was:

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
Steve Lamb wrote: Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 12:32:19 PM, Jonathan wrote: I hate being FORCED to do an install when a copy is just as good and saves far more effort. I duplicate hundreds of FreeBSD disks every month. If only Linux was so easy. If you like FreeBSD... *USE

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
Steve Lamb wrote: Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 3:14:37 PM, Federico wrote: sysadmin) control, /opt is where third-party package builders (e.g., Corel, KDE, Cygnus, etc...) control. None of this describes one bit why it has to be a top level directory. You may not like it, but not

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
Steve Lamb wrote: Then why /home/ftp instead of /ftp? Because ~ftp is as short as /ftp. Why /var/htdocs instead of /www? Bacouase /var/htdocs is an error, the i.m.h.o. propper location is /home/www, a.k.a. ~www / Balp

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
Steve Lamb wrote: Considering one can install a fairly robust system (FreeBSD, Debian) over FTP/NFS in under an hour and it takes 2-3 to go through a gig of data I would much rather reinstall the programs and retrieve the relatively small data (/etc, btw, is data). As long at the

Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: Re: Deficiencies in Debian]

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 10:00:02PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: As another sometimes Solaris and HP user, hear hear. If the only way What, you don't like this? /ato/extern/gnu/bin:/usr/hp64000/bin:/usr/broadband/bin:/usr/broadband/util: :-) From my HP

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was:

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
Anthony Towns wrote: beacus some pepole in the Debian comunity does not have tha same problems... STOP WRITING TO -devel AND START **DOING** SOMETHING ABOUT IT * The day I get my key sigh by a developer and I get som exctra time. I can contribitute something. BUT STILL NOT IN

Re: Backups (was: /opt/ again)

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
Steve Lamb wrote: Depends on what you have on there. If it is stuff that is easily replaced from source, recompile. I'd backup the sources, not the programs themselves It's almost always faster to recreate everything (idenical) from back that from something else. (I suppost don't have any

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was:

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
Steve Lamb wrote: Sure I can. Now, *YOU* tell *ME* why you can't see the similarities between /usr/local and /usr/opt in the above scenerio. I mean, if /usr is If it wan't for that the rest of the Unix univere in about 20 years ago started to use the /opt mhiracy for this you should

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
Steve Lamb wrote: Nor is it the case with /opt. As long as you don't count the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. / Balp

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
Steve Lamb wrote: Now, *YOU* tell *ME* how that translates into reinstalling, configuring and restoring all data. Then can you tell me how your three steps are easyer and faster them our one step? Restoring everything from one tape in one moment usally gets done faster (as long as we

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-15 Thread Anders Arnholm
Steve Lamb wrote: Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 11:25:11 PM, Jakob wrote: software. FHS states that /usr must be sharable over a network - e.g. if I Thank you for finally providing a very good reason for a new top level

Re: Strange mail from Anders Arnholm (was Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...]))

1999-09-16 Thread Anders Arnholm
Paul Slootman wrote: especially strange there (besides the fact that he uses X-Face, which I thought had died out :-) I must have misse the first mail, and I have never seen amy problem exect that my filters for repying on some QP mails sometimes gets wrong and add nice looking Swedish chars

Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...])

1999-09-16 Thread Anders Arnholm
Steve Lamb wrote: How are you going to get the data on to the drive without a minimum installation on it in the first place? Booting in a way that lets you restore the data with out having to install the system. What you need depends on the kind backup you have. In the most simple tape

Re: ProFTPd being lame

1999-09-19 Thread Anders Arnholm
Robert Stone wrote: Virtualhosting in proftpd is far easier than with wu-ftpd. As it stands now, I don't believe any debian ftp server supports virtual anon ftp sites as provided besides proftpd. Roxen does, at least if you have different IP numbers, I can't get IP-less vistual

Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: Re: Deficiencies in Debian]

1999-09-20 Thread Anders Arnholm
Andrew Pimlott wrote: I suggest kindly pointing this out to those who start their scripts with #!/usr/local/bin/perl. Even thou the rest of the world may be wrong it till exist, and one sometimes has to make the best to interact even with an erratic world, that is the main reason why software