Re: Drop the minor release number

2005-07-10 Thread Andreas Barth
* Eduard Bloch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050708 17:10]: Debian 4.0 for etch, 4.1 for etch stable release 1, 4.2 for etch stable release 2, 4.2a for etch stable release 2 with a minor CD mastering fix (for example), etc.pp. Well, Woody was 3.0, Sarge was 3.1, so the logical next number would be 3.11

Re: Drop the minor release number

2005-07-10 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, * Drew Parsons ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050710 15:15]: I think that's grossly unfair. There is nothing in debian-release's description to give any hint that it is not a discussion list. Thanks for your hint. This is fixed now. Cheers, Andi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Mass bug filing for packages that FTBFS because of changes to texi2html

2005-07-14 Thread Andreas Barth
* Matt Kraai ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050714 02:21]: texi2html's behavior changed recently: if it is invoked with -split=chapter, old versions place the HTML files in the same directory as the documentation source, whereas new versions place the generated files in a subdirectory. After I'd

Re: lsb-base

2005-07-18 Thread Andreas Barth
* Marco d'Itri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050718 20:17]: On Jul 18, Bernhard R. Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to configure this to not create masses of processes and confusing the user with colors? You can write your own package which conflicts+provides lsb-base and implements

Re: BTS version tracking

2005-07-18 Thread Andreas Barth
* Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050718 17:21]: The BTS records that bug #NN was fixed in 1.1-sarge1 and 1.3, and let's say the bug was found in version 1.1. Since it has the changelogs (it gets these from ftp-master), it can build up a tree of which package versions are based on which

Re: lsb-base

2005-07-19 Thread Andreas Barth
* Stig Sandbeck Mathisen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050719 09:31]: Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It would be better if there would be some configureable option in lsb-base. , | Angry Fruit Salad? | | [yes] [no] ` configuration option like in set style = plain in /etc

Re: Testing requirements stalled

2005-07-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Olaf van der Spek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050726 09:26]: On 7/26/05, Philipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 18:20 -0700, Shaun Jackman wrote: It's been saying that ncurses is only 3 days old for the past four days. Any idea what's up? Well, ftp-master is down, so

bugs2ldap gateway down - wnpp, bts.turmzimmer.net broken

2005-07-28 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, on request of Ryan Murray I stopped the bugs2ldap-gateway on bugs.debian.org. I'll move that gateway to some other host as soon as I have time. At least the following services are broken by that: - the wnpp bug list - bts.turmzimmer.net I am sorry for that. I'll follow up as soon as this

bugs2ldap running on master (was: bugs2ldap gateway down - wnpp, bts.turmzimmer.net broken)

2005-07-30 Thread Andreas Barth
* Andreas Barth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050728 22:39]: on request of Ryan Murray I stopped the bugs2ldap-gateway on bugs.debian.org. I'll move that gateway to some other host as soon as I have time. At least the following services are broken by that: - the wnpp bug list - bts.turmzimmer.net

about to remove libdb4.1

2005-07-31 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, libdb4.1 should be removed from Debian soon. The following packages still use it (but could move forward to the more recent db4.2 or db4.3 package): arla kerberos4kth-servers vacation libedataserver1.2-4 libroken16-kerberos4kth kerberos4kth-kdc libapache-mod-witch libotp0-kerberos4kth

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-01 Thread Andreas Barth
* Yaroslav Halchenko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 12:20]: I'm not sure if any additional AMs are necessary -- there is a sufficient quantity of them to cover all current DD applicants... We would need more good AMs, we have too few. Cheers, Andi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-01 Thread Andreas Barth
* Neil McGovern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 14:02]: On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 01:58:55PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: * Yaroslav Halchenko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 12:20]: I'm not sure if any additional AMs are necessary -- there is a sufficient quantity of them to cover all current DD

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-01 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, * Nico Golde ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 15:21]: * Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-08-01 15:16]: * Neil McGovern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 14:02]: On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 01:58:55PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: * Yaroslav Halchenko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 12:20]: I'm

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Andreas Barth
* Nigel Jones ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050802 05:31]: Also: say that if an AM/DAM does not process x applications a month (reasonably fair amount (say 5) and allow for vaccations/sickness etc) then they may face removal I don't know if you've every worked as AM, but if you have other duties in

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Andreas Barth
* Thijs Kinkhorst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050802 12:19]: And why is approval by DAM not equal to account creation? It seems to me that the account creation step could be fully automated: checking the box approved by DAM could trigger an insert into the LDAP database thereby creating the account.

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-02 Thread Andreas Barth
* Thijs Kinkhorst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050802 13:41]: And even then, appearently the DAM works like this: I approve person X, let's check his box, but I'll add the account at some point later on (this takes weeks on average). When you check the box you might add the account aswell when you're

Re: mass bug filing on packages that are blocking use of cdebconf

2005-08-04 Thread Andreas Barth
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050803 12:51]: On Wed, 03 Aug 2005, Julien BLACHE wrote: I'll drop the dependency on debconf on these two packages, as it's only used to purge some old debconf questions from the database. You can do that only if those old debconf

Re: Bruce Perens hosts party at OSCON Wednesday night

2005-08-04 Thread Andreas Barth
* Anthony DeRobertis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050804 11:55]: Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: It was an advertisement for a recruiting party. That's commercial by any definition. Which is wholy irrelevant, because Debian's mailing list policy prohibits UBE, not UCE. See:

Re: Bruce Perens hosts party at OSCON Wednesday night

2005-08-04 Thread Andreas Barth
* Miles Bader ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050804 13:54]: Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which is wholy irrelevant, because Debian's mailing list policy prohibits UBE, not UCE. See: In that case, the description needs to be fixed. Why? Because the intent is obviously to forbid any

Re: Bruce Perens hosts party at OSCON Wednesday night

2005-08-04 Thread Andreas Barth
* Thomas Bushnell BSG ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050804 18:48]: Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Miles Bader ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050804 13:54]: Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which is wholy irrelevant, because Debian's mailing list policy prohibits UBE, not UCE. See

Re: experimental bugs preventing testing transition?

2005-08-12 Thread Andreas Barth
* Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050811 23:46]: Is this a bug in Björns script, or in the new versioned BTS, or in katie's code? Britney is version-tracking agnostic currently. (Though that's one of the issues I want to work on this weekend.) Cheers, Andi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: what happened to RunDinstallHourly proposal?

2005-08-12 Thread Andreas Barth
* kamaraju kusumanchi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050811 23:46]: I was just wondering if there are any efforts currently undergoing to make this a reality? or has the idea been just dropped? What is preventing its implementation? Currently, even the daily dinstall is creating pain to us, as spohr

Re: package tracking system issues

2005-08-13 Thread Andreas Barth
* Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050813 13:40]: Le vendredi 12 août 2005 à 18:32 +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar a écrit : 1. The system warns that the bug tracking system contains patches, but there aren't any bugs with patches except one bug that has been closed for a

Re: package tracking system issues

2005-08-13 Thread Andreas Barth
* Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050813 19:08]: Looking at the file you indicated I see : dn: cn=258977,dc=current,dc=bugs,dc=debian,dc=org objectClass: debbugsBug debbugsID: 258977 debbugsSubmitter: Andreas Jochens [EMAIL PROTECTED] debbugsDate: 1089640983 debbugsPackage: icu

Re: package tracking system issues

2005-08-13 Thread Andreas Barth
* Andreas Barth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050813 20:30]: * Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050813 19:29]: Le samedi 13 août 2005 à 19:11 +0200, Andreas Barth a écrit : I see debbugsDone and yet all available versions have the bug. I'm lost as to what open/done means in any case

Re: package tracking system issues

2005-08-13 Thread Andreas Barth
* Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050813 19:29]: Le samedi 13 août 2005 à 19:11 +0200, Andreas Barth a écrit : I see debbugsDone and yet all available versions have the bug. I'm lost as to what open/done means in any case. :-) Hm, it could be that my logic has a flaw here. I

Re: vancouver revisited

2005-08-21 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, * Peter 'p2' De Schrijver ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050821 22:39]: Some comments : - must include basic UNIX functionality Whatever that may mean there are processes. there is dns name resolution. there is networking. there is chroot. etc. Just really basic things (and, of course, none of

Re: vancouver revisited

2005-08-22 Thread Andreas Barth
* Riku Voipio ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050822 00:07]: On Sun, Aug 21, 2005 at 10:54:43PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: * Peter 'p2' De Schrijver ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050821 22:39]: - must have a working, tested installer Trivial. debootstrap does that. How do you boot the system

Re: vancouver revisited

2005-08-22 Thread Andreas Barth
* Peter 'p2' De Schrijver ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050822 10:44]: How do you boot to a system to run debian-installer when there is no bios or bootloader on the system yet? Just take a look at the existing Debian ports, and you see that it's ok to use a bios that's part of the hardware.

Re: Will the amd64 port be rejected because of the 98% rule?

2005-08-22 Thread Andreas Barth
* Andreas Jochens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050822 11:36]: I understand that the amd64 port has to be recompiled for the final inclusion into the official archive because the current amd64 packages have not been built by DDs. But currently more than 10% of the unmodified source packages from

Re: Will the amd64 port be rejected because of the 98% rule?

2005-08-22 Thread Andreas Barth
* Andreas Jochens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050822 12:56]: On 05-Aug-22 11:48, Andreas Barth wrote: * Andreas Jochens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050822 11:36]: I understand that the amd64 port has to be recompiled for the final inclusion into the official archive because the current amd64

Re: Results of the meeting in Helsinki about the Vancouver proposal

2005-08-22 Thread Andreas Barth
* Olaf van der Spek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050822 12:35]: On 8/22/05, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In particular, we invariably run into arch-specific problems every time a new version of a toolchain package is uploaded to unstable. Some may remember that the new glibc/gcc blocked

Re: Results of the meeting in Helsinki about the Vancouver proposal

2005-08-22 Thread Andreas Barth
* Ingo Juergensmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050822 10:42]: On Sun, Aug 21, 2005 at 03:58:24AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: 4. The requirement that any port has to have 5 developers support it, and be able to demonstrate that there are (at least) 50 users. How should this demonstration

Re: Results of the meeting in Helsinki about the Vancouver proposal

2005-08-22 Thread Andreas Barth
* Olaf van der Spek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050822 17:01]: On 8/22/05, Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Olaf van der Spek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050822 12:35]: On 8/22/05, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In particular, we invariably run into arch-specific problems every time

Re: Results of the meeting in Helsinki about the Vancouver proposal

2005-08-22 Thread Andreas Barth
* Gunnar Wolf ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050822 18:01]: Huh? Would an off-the-shelf old 1.5GHz P4 lag behind a top-of-the-line m68k or ARM? If you manage to put enough ram in the current arm: Definitly yes. Last time when I was about to buy me a new machine, the only reason why I didn't buy an

Re: Will the amd64 port be rejected because of the 98% rule?

2005-08-23 Thread Andreas Barth
* Peter Samuelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050823 00:18]: [John Hasler] Make it 98% of the packages buildable on the accepted port with the highest build percentage. That's not fair either, unless you require all packages to be autobuilt (which is a thread we don't need to duplicate now).

Re: Will the amd64 port be rejected because of the 98% rule?

2005-08-23 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, * Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050823 03:32]: On the other hand I feel that a port with even 80% of all packages available can be very very usefull. Even a port without any X can be usefull if that lack of software is intentional and not just inability to build something.

Re: Will the amd64 port be rejected because of the 98% rule?

2005-08-23 Thread Andreas Barth
* Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050823 22:24]: Doing a count yourself you can get 10% divergence from the buildd.d.o stats depending what you count exactly. So before any line should be drawn someone should define a correct counting method and generate at least a month worth of

Re: Is dpkg --compare-versions canonical?

2005-08-23 Thread Andreas Barth
* Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050823 22:58]: Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is out of date since it does not explain ~ yet. Maybe, if you have the time and since you just looked at the matter closely anyway, you could draw up a few lines and send a patch? I'm

Re: Results of the meeting in Helsinki about the Vancouver proposal

2005-08-24 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, * GOTO Masanori ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050824 10:38]: At Sun, 21 Aug 2005 03:58:24 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: - must be a developer-accessible debian.org machine for the architecture Does this part mean developer-accessible machine is always usable for all debian developers?

Re: Results of the meeting in Helsinki about the Vancouver proposal

2005-08-24 Thread Andreas Barth
* Olaf van der Spek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050824 15:52]: On 8/24/05, Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Wouldn't that at least catch the non-platform-specific bugs? They are usually caught fairly quickly. The problem here is what to do in the cases where nobody cares enough about

Re: Debian shared libs use far more memory than required

2005-08-25 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, [full cite left for d-ds usage] * Stephane Chauveau ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050825 01:16]: I was profiling the memory usage of libgtk when discovered something very strange. As you may know, shared memory are usually mapped in 2 different memory segments. The first segment containing

Re: Dogme05: Team Maintenance

2005-08-27 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, (that I answer to this mail is just pure Chance - it's meant at you both, and I might have answered to another mail equally well :) * Thijs Kinkhorst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050827 10:46]: On Sat, 2005-08-27 at 10:34 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: * Thijs Kinkhorst: unverifiable grave

Re: Version tracking in the BTS

2005-08-29 Thread Andreas Barth
* Florian Weimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050829 20:39]: Oh, this seems to imply that security bugs must be tagged sarge manually, otherwise the bug will soon disappear from the radar screen. 8-( Is it acceptable if this tag is set by non-maintainers? yes. Cheers, Andi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: how to make a patch

2005-09-07 Thread Andreas Barth
* Paolo Pantaleo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050907 13:55]: I have spent some time to write the bash completion for apt-file command. I have written a pair of email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and i didn't get any response. Now i want to submit a patch for bash_completion file that add the apt-file support.

Re: snmpkit stuck in unstable ?

2005-09-08 Thread Andreas Barth
* A Mennucc ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050908 13:39]: (maybe I do not properly understand how the transition unstable - testing goes , but...) my packages from source libprinterconf, see http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=libprinterconf are waiting for snmpkit to go into testing;

Re: snmpkit stuck in unstable ?

2005-09-09 Thread Andreas Barth
* A Mennucc ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050909 10:01]: On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 09:12:15AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: Looks like its entire chain is ready, so now you need a hint. Ask debian-release to do this: the page on excuses was speaking of an hint... what is it ? choice 1) a plain

Re: apt with index diff support

2005-09-20 Thread Andreas Barth
* Michael Vogt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050910 15:57]: I'm happy to tell you that apt is able to use those index files now. Robert Lemmen and I implmeneted the needed support. you might be interessted that secure-testing.debian.net has now native support for index diffs (even though only very

Re: architecture-specific release criteria - requalification needed

2005-09-21 Thread Andreas Barth
* Ingo Juergensmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050921 14:54]: On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:41:13PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: | * Developer availability: The architecture must have a |developer-available (i.e. debian.org) machine that contains the |usual development chroots (at least

Re: architecture-specific release criteria - requalification needed

2005-09-21 Thread Andreas Barth
* Josselin Mouette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050921 15:25]: Le mardi 20 septembre 2005 à 23:41 +0200, Andreas Barth a écrit : For that reason, we discussed in multiple meetings, together with porters, ftp-masters and other people more than once how the criteria should look. Also, there was more

Re: architecture-specific release criteria - requalification needed

2005-09-21 Thread Andreas Barth
* Ingo Juergensmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050921 15:28]: On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 03:19:16PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Ingo Juergensmann] Although it was discussed several times, I have still no idea how those users should be counted? Two ideas. - Get them to install

Re: architecture-specific release criteria - requalification needed

2005-09-21 Thread Andreas Barth
* Ingo Juergensmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050921 16:53]: What about such ports like m32r? Some embedded devices might run that port, but the user doesn't even know about which arch he's using nor that he's using Debian and certainly not that he is intended to give a hey, i'm using that port

Re: architecture-specific release criteria - requalification needed

2005-09-23 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, * Debian-armeb Porting Team ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050922 14:26]: On 9/21/05, Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These criteria do _not_ control addition of an architecture to unstable, but rather apply to architectures which the ftp-masters have accepted into unstable

armeb (was: architecture-specific release criteria - requalification needed)

2005-09-25 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, * Lennert Buytenhek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050925 11:32]: So far we have (for sarge): - patches for apt, build-essential, cdrdao, dpkg, gcc, glibc, kaffe, libsdl, linux-kernel-headers, ltrace, makedev, mozilla, strace and util-linux to teach their config scripts/files et al. about the

Re: How to prevent a library transition

2005-09-28 Thread Andreas Barth
* Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050928 14:54]: Wouldn't it be possible to do the following: teTeX-3.0 is uploaded to unstable, including the libkpathsea4 and libkpathsea4-dev packages (it uses the library itself), but at the same time libkpathsea3 and libkpathsea-dev are still available as

Re: Would a still depends on libkpathsea3 bug be RC? (was: How to prevent a library transition)

2005-09-29 Thread Andreas Barth
* Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050929 10:07]: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Frank Küster wrote: If my second interpretation is right, we depend on maintainers' action for that. In order to make all dependencies on the old version

Re: What do you do if a package is built and not uploaded?

2005-10-01 Thread Andreas Barth
* Nathanael Nerode ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051001 22:42]: Thiemo Seufer wrote: Mailing {alpha,mips,[EMAIL PROTECTED] is my best guess. There is usually no reply, but from some cases I conclude the mailboxes are read. I don't know if those addresses are documented anywhere. They're not.

Re: Packages that need to be rebuilt agaisnt libssl0.9.8

2005-10-06 Thread Andreas Barth
* Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051006 17:13]: sean finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and furthermore, there are some of us who have been quietly waiting for things to settle down from the previous major transitions before doing our own, at the request of the release team. I'm only

Re: Packages that need to be rebuilt agaisnt libssl0.9.8

2005-10-07 Thread Andreas Barth
* Domenico Andreoli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051007 10:59]: is the run for openssl 0.9.8 started anyway? i have curl and libapache-mod-ssl ready for the upload. There is nothing one can stop anymore. It will be tied with the c++-abi-transition soon enough. Cheers, Andi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

tiffani now on ftp.debian.org / people.d.o/~aba/ turned off

2005-10-19 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, as some of you already know, Anthony turned on tiffani on ftp-master. As the tiffani on people is now longer needed (and also broken by this change), I disabled the cronjob. Please just use your normal debian mirror for support of partial lists. Thanks for all your help, support, debugging

Re: Bits from the release team: the plans for etch

2005-10-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* sean finney ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051026 14:20]: On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 02:15:41PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: If a package's postrm removes the user, and the next package's postinst just calls adduser, then the admin have no control over the reusing. If you want to allow automatic

Re: Bits from the release team: the plans for etch

2005-10-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Gabor Gombas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051026 18:03]: On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 05:39:45PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: i don't think removing and reusing users is a good idea in practice. what harm would there be in simply leaving the user account on the system permenantly, with maybe

Re: Bits from the release team: the plans for etch

2005-10-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051026 18:09]: We can provide a sensible default for system users' removals that copes with most situations and leave a door open (through debconf) to sysadmins that want to fiddle with system users. I really want to warn to try to be too

Re: Bits from the release team: the plans for etch

2005-10-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Humberto Massa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051026 18:28]: Andreas Barth wrote: * Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051026 18:09]: We can provide a sensible default for system users' removals that copes with most situations and leave a door open (through debconf) to sysadmins

Re: Bits from the release team: the plans for etch

2005-10-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Humberto Massa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051026 18:34]: in my workstation I try out a new package (for scientfic computing, a game for Lucas, a new development package) at least once each two days, and a lot of times they come with their libs and their daemons -- and their users. So I see

Re: Bits from the release team: the plans for etch

2005-10-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Humberto Massa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051026 18:48]: Andreas Barth wrote: * Humberto Massa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051026 18:34]: in my workstation I try out a new package (for scientfic computing, a game for Lucas, a new development package) at least once each two days, and a lot of times

Re: Bits from the release team: the plans for etch

2005-10-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Stephen Frost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051026 20:13]: * Thomas Bushnell BSG ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Stephen Frost [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Same way you know that the system administrator hasn't modified a file in /usr/bin. Um, I know that by comparing the contents against a

Re: Bits from the release team: the plans for etch

2005-10-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Stephen Frost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051026 20:46]: Additionally, this is *not* a problem with the orphaning of the file, it's a problem with the reuse of a previously-used uid. I could see adding a system to track previously-used uids and not reusing them. I don't believe using passwd for

Re: Bits from the release team: the plans for etch

2005-10-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Stephen Frost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051026 20:58]: Leaving around unused accounts is plainly wrong too, and also a potential security risk. I'm certain you can proof this. If we're going to try to push for a broad change in how this is handled then let's do it the *right* way by creating

Re: Transition time: KDE, JACK, arts, sablotron, unixodbc, net-snmp, php, ...

2005-10-31 Thread Andreas Barth
* Aurelien Jarno ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051031 14:31]: So it seems that unstable is again, as before the release, half-frozen. Maybe we could change its name? Seriously, I begin to consider that as a real problem. I am not blaming you, release maintainers, you are doing your job. From my

Re: Transition time: KDE, JACK, arts, sablotron, unixodbc, net-snmp, php, ...

2005-11-01 Thread Andreas Barth
* Anthony Towns (aj@azure.humbug.org.au) [051101 17:23]: On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 12:41:09PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: So, would anybody object if I set up a cronjob that emails the PTS whenever a (source) package propagates to, or is removed from, testing? I won't so nobody'd object;

Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program

2005-11-04 Thread Andreas Barth
* Glenn Maynard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051104 14:40]: On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 02:05:43PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: * Wouter Verhelst: Lets assume you have GPL-ed project dpkg. Any change to foo.c must be contributed back to the community. No, that's not true. Any

bts2ldap-gateway: new host bts2ldap.debian.net

2005-11-08 Thread Andreas Barth
for this. The index-files are still available as files on merkel and master. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread Andreas Barth
*. You could send them e.g. a DMCA Takedown Notice. Especially as they didn't listen before. Of course only if you're the author of one of the relevant programms. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe

RFC: drop kerberos4-support?

2005-11-11 Thread Andreas Barth
to be changed. As usual, the maintainers have a special say in everything (that's why I Cced them). :) Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: RFC: drop kerberos4-support?

2005-11-11 Thread Andreas Barth
* Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [05 21:47]: Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, my question is simple: should I push packages to go away from kerberos-4-support? Unless there is a good reason to do not, I would start to push into that direction. And of course, feel free

Re: RFC: drop kerberos4-support?

2005-11-11 Thread Andreas Barth
* Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [05 23:26]: Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You think that December 2006 (the expected release time of etch) is too early to drop Kerberos 4? I'm not sure. I think it's going to be tight for some people, but on the other hand not shipping

Re: apply to NM? ha!

2005-01-25 Thread Andreas Barth
.html... Huh, and here was me thinking those were perfect examples of the sort of idiocy that just sucks the fun right out of Debian. Agreed. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: NM queue and groups

2005-01-27 Thread Andreas Barth
of the interpretation of the SC. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: apply to NM? ha!

2005-01-30 Thread Andreas Barth
- realistically, we'll never fully reach it. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Vancouver meeting - clarifications

2005-03-14 Thread Andreas Barth
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Re: Vancouver meeting - clarifications

2005-03-15 Thread Andreas Barth
* Tollef Fog Heen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050315 10:50]: * Andreas Barth | For example, the more architectures are included the longer the migration | testing script takes. We are already at the limit currently (and also | have out-of-memory issues from time to time). For example, currently we

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-15 Thread Andreas Barth
* Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050315 00:00]: Colin mentioned the possibility of adding an Architecture: field instead. That seems better than an etch-ignore tag anyway, for what you want to achieve here. Yes, that sounds well. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-15 Thread Andreas Barth
to make some synchronize runs outside of current britney, as that might be better in terms of speed and memory usage. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Vancouver meeting - clarifications

2005-03-15 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, * Tollef Fog Heen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050315 12:40]: * Andreas Barth | (And, BTW, newraff is a quite mature box. Of course, there is always | more and better hardware available, but newraff is already a very good | machine. And, we want to give the testing migration script more tasks

Re: Vancouver meeting - clarifications

2005-03-15 Thread Andreas Barth
always improve them, regardless of how many usage they get. I believe there is sufficient algorithm knowhow in the debian developer community to solve the scalability problems. Anyone who provides better scalability for britney is welcome. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-15 Thread Andreas Barth
of another build queue... Is there an underlying reason why the wanna-build management for all architectures needs to happen on ftp-master? For any architecture that builds directly from accepted, having wanna-build on ftp-master has some improvements. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas

Re: Vancouver meeting - clarifications

2005-03-15 Thread Andreas Barth
* Thomas Bushnell BSG ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050315 20:15]: Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | - the release architecture must have N+1 buildds where N is the number | required to keep up with the volume of uploaded packages The reason for this proposal should be instantly clear

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-16 Thread Andreas Barth
to become a release assistent. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

2005-03-17 Thread Andreas Barth
* Mike Fedyk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050316 20:55]: Andreas Barth wrote: If that happens for a too long period, we might consider such an architecture to be too slow to keep up, and will eventually discuss about kicking it out of the architectures we wait for testing migration at all, or even

Re: .d.o machines which are down (Re: Questions for the DPL candidates)

2005-03-17 Thread Andreas Barth
the number of sparc buildds down to one, when two are required for RC archtectures under the new proposal. That's ok because two buildd's can run on the one machine. It has 6 cpu's. That still doesn't suffice the N+1-requirement. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024

Re: .d.o machines which are down (Re: Questions for the DPL candidates)

2005-03-17 Thread Andreas Barth
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Re: .d.o machines which are down (Re: Questions for the DPL candidates)

2005-03-17 Thread Andreas Barth
* Andreas Barth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050317 10:54]: Ah, so why is vore down now for some time now? If it's so easy to that should read as auric of course. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5

Re: Relaxing testing requirements (was: summarising answers to Vancouver critique)

2005-03-17 Thread Andreas Barth
actually release) instead of 1. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Do not make gratuitous source uploads just to provoke the buildds!

2005-03-17 Thread Andreas Barth
* Mike Fedyk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050317 19:30]: Andreas Barth wrote: If we don't wait for an arch, it gets out-of-sync quite soon, and due to e.g. legal requirements, we can't release that arch. (In other words, if an arch is too long ignored for testing, we should remove it, as we can't

Re: The 98% and N=2 criteria

2005-03-20 Thread Andreas Barth
architecture-specific bugs are _most_ likely to turn up, so would we actually have gained anything then? Well, the toolchain is perhaps not the part where they turn up most likely, but it's the part that creates most of the workload and delays. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth

Re: [Proposal] $arch release assistants

2005-03-20 Thread Andreas Barth
already working on it). Also, anybody is free to e.g. subscribe to the debian-release mailing list. We usually notice people who are doing a great job. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-20 Thread Andreas Barth
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Re: The 98% and N=2 criteria (was: Vancouver meeting - clarifications)

2005-03-20 Thread Andreas Barth
to be in sync with others in testing - and, noauto_weak on the individual buildds is the correct way for that. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: Buildd redundancy (was Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver...)

2005-03-20 Thread Andreas Barth
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