Re: New ftp method for dselect

1995-12-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Dirk Eddelbuettel writes (supercite undone - iwj): [Ian Jackson writes:] Right. In order to avoid having to rename lots of packages or change their version numbers I propose the following naming scheme for files on the FTP site in the `binary' directory: package-name--version[-revision

Re: New ftp method for dselect

1995-12-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Bill Mitchell writes (Re: New ftp method for dselect): dchanges(1) seems to parse distribution filenames OK, though the parsing code is pretty ugly. If it's broken, please let me know. Seems to do it OK isn't good enough - we need something unambiguous and predictable. Ian.

Re: New ftp method for dselect

1995-12-19 Thread Ian Jackson
David Engel writes (Re: New ftp method for dselect): OK, so package file names don't parse easily. Why couldn't the cross reference be included in the Packages file? It's needed by dselect anyway. Also, what about packages like ld.so where the file name doesn't match the package name

Bug#1995: run-parts on laptops

1995-12-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Raul Miller writes (Re: Bug#1995: run-parts on laptops): I think there's a good answer to this question, but I doubt the above workaround to the current package implementation of cron will occur to very many people. How about taking cron out of rc*.d ? Ian.

Re: Incoming file permissions

1995-12-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Dale Miller writes (Incoming file permissions): I noticed that some but not all of the new packages that get uploaded to the Incoming directory don't have read permissions. Is there a reason for this? Are they uploaded that way? I like to install the latest and greatest as quick as possible.

Re: Bug#2048: Broken pipe from dpkg to head

1995-12-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Bill Mitchell writes (Bug#2048: Broken pipe from dpkg to head): root:work# dpkg --info less*deb | head -1 old debian package, version 0.939000. Broken pipe Richard Kettlewell writes (Bug#2048: Broken pipe from dpkg to head): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:richard$ ls -l | head -1 total 19792 Broken

Re: Package Verification

1995-12-19 Thread Ian Jackson
brian white writes (Re: Package Verification ): This is fine, but it doesn't help with verifying packages on non-Debian systems as is required by people who must do an actual FTP from another machine. As for the format, feel free to alter it. I figured I would be parsing this line out of

Re: psutils ELF package release

1995-12-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Dale Scheetz writes (psutils ELF package release): As I have not yet obtained the upstream source, I have been unable to create a diff file for this package (I had to fake out dchanges with a fraud .diff.gz file). Do not upload the package without a diff. It's incomplete. Please get the

Re: ncurses-1.9.8a ELF release

1995-12-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Let's say I have a package named foo-n with a shared library in it named libfoo.so.x.y that, at least for the time being, must always be available by that name, even while dpkg is moving things around. Now, at some point in the future, I know that libfoo.so.x.y whill no longer be

Re: Unanswered problem reports by maintainer

1996-01-02 Thread Ian Jackson
Carl Streeter writes (Re: Unanswered problem reports by maintainer): On Tue, 26 Dec 1995, Raul Miller wrote: URL: http://www.cps.cmich.edu/~streeter/debian-bugs/ http://www.debian.org/Bugs. Ian.. Could you update this? Done. (I've been away - I'll catch up with my email in the

Re: ncurses-1.9.8a ELF release

1996-01-04 Thread Ian Jackson
David Engel writes (Re: ncurses-1.9.8a ELF release): Slowly. I've been trying to better understand how dpkg works and find a way to do what I want with the current behaviour. The only way I've come up with is rather ugly and probably error prone so I haven't even bother to hash it all out.

Bug summaries by maintainer

1996-01-04 Thread Ian Jackson
These listings have been using out-of-date overrides file and Packages file information, because the cron job to update my local copy wasn't working. I think I've fixed that now, and the next summary should be correct. Please let me know of any further problems. Thanks, Ian. (BTW: I've just

Re: New ftp method for dselect

1996-01-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Robert Leslie writes (Re: New ftp method for dselect): Exceptions: (the ones I saw, anyway) stable/binary/net/bind-4.9.3-BETA24-1.deb debian-1.0/binary/net/bind-4.9.3-BETA26-2.deb If there are no objections I think I will rename the next version of the bind package to something

Re: Buglist

1996-01-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Sven Rudolph writes (Re: Buglist): Some suggestions for the bug reporting system: - It is possible to mark a message quiet in order to get it not echoed at debian-devel. Is there a way to make answers to it be not echoed too ? (e.g. by introducing a debian-bugs-quiet alias) That

Re: apache

1996-01-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Miquel van Smoorenburg writes (apache): Well, my views on this are: o a /var/httpd/htdocs for the documents Remember apache can be a server for multiple domains. That's why we need a 2-level directory structure; you might get /var/httpd/htdocs-customer2 /var/httpd/htdocs-customer3

Re: binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories

1996-01-05 Thread Ian Jackson
(Crosspost to -alpha and -sparc removed.) Bill Mitchell writes (Re: binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories): It seems that the Guidelines document needs updating to address issues falling out of this. One issue is whether binary packages are to be distinguished by distribution-specific

Bug#2060: dpkg and depends on version again

1996-01-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Erick Branderhorst writes (Bug#2060: dpkg and depends on version again): [...] The character is misleading and in practice it is interpretated by dpkg as =. I would suggest to change the syntax used in Depends/Conflict/Provides/Recommends/Suggest fields into a more intuitive way (Table 2).

Bug#2059: dpkg and depend on versions

1996-01-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Erick Branderhorst writes (Bug#2059: dpkg and depend on versions): Package: dpkg Version: 1.0.8 I installed the man package (2.3.10-6) succesfully. After that I tried to upgrade the libgdbm1 package (1.7.3-8). During installation of libgdbm1 dpkg reports about libgdbm1 conflicting with man

Re: binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories

1996-01-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Michael K. Johnson writes (Re: binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories ): Ian Murdock writes: [...] ther have to have separate Incoming directories for all supported architectures, or we'll have to have a naming scheme for all Incoming binary packages (prepending a dash and the architecture

Bug#2081: named does not start

1996-01-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Michael Alan Dorman writes (Bug#2081: named does not start): In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jean-Marc Bourguet w rites: PS=`ps -p $PID 2/dev/null| tail -1 | grep named` You might want to make this PS=`ps -p $PID 2/dev/null| tail -1 | grep named | grep -v grep` so that it doesn't pick up

Re: Too much information! (And what to do about it.)

1996-01-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Murdock writes (Too much information! (And what to do about it.)): With all of the new developers that are joining the Project and the number of new packages that are resulting from their involvement, it's becoming increasingly difficult, especially for newer users who aren't exactly sure

Re: Bug#2091: creating packages requires root privileges

1996-01-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Marek Michalkiewicz writes (Bug#2091: creating packages requires root privileges): To create a binary *.deb package, root privileges are required. This is because you must create a complete directory structure with proper ownerships and permissions first, and then use dpkg-deb to create a

Re: FTP site performance low

1996-01-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Matthew Bailey writes (Re: FTP site performance low): [...] Well netscape corp screwed me with politics and listed me in their mirror listings. Well there used to be more mirrors but it seems that we are one of three listed now. And until beta 5 or release version are out I can not get out

Re: binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories

1996-01-05 Thread Ian Jackson
(Gigantic crosspost trimmed.) Raul Miller writes (Re: binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories): It does look like dvips was superceeded by some other package, and that it did originally have some executables in it. [All I have on my system from dvips is a copyright statement and some .tex

Bug#2080: cern-httpd or dpkg leaves log files after purge.

1996-01-05 Thread Ian Jackson
David H. Silber writes (Bug#2080: cern-httpd or dpkg leaves log files after purge.): Package: cern-httpd -or- dpkg Version: ??? 1.0.7 After purging cern-httpd from my system, the log files remained. The logfiles will be created by the package, so dpkg doesn't know anything about

Bug#1995: run-parts on laptops

1996-01-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Raul Miller writes (Re: Bug#1995: run-parts on laptops): Ian Jackson: Perhaps savelog should be moved into another package, then ? This seems like a very good idea. miscutils is probably the right one. Ian.

dselect FTP method and dftp wrt FTP site organisation

1996-01-05 Thread Ian Jackson
While thinking about this problem over the Christmas break I have come to the conclusion that we do not have to change the filenames so that we can recover the package name and version information from them. Programs can use the Packages file to avoid downloading files that they know they don't

Re: dist-3.60-3 uploaded to ftp.debian.org

1996-01-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Manoj Srivastava writes (dist-3.60-3 uploaded to ftp.debian.org): * Use /etc/news/organization instead of /etc/organization Please note that people who installed mailagent-3.44-1 and/or dist-3.60-2 shall have to remove /etc/organization manually after

Packages files now contain `size' and `md5sum'

1996-01-05 Thread Ian Jackson
I've updated mkpackages so that it puts the size in bytes and MD5 checksum of the files in the Packages files. I didn't put them in the same field because it seemed silly for programs and humans to have to parse the contents of a field into two essentially unrelated pieces of information, and

Re: binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories

1996-01-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Bill Mitchell writes (Re: binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories): This seems shakey -- especially if we posit that the i386 maintainer is in the U.S., the Mac maintainer in Germany, and the PowerPC maintainer in Korea. Also, the upstream source maintainer might be in Romania, and might

Re: ftp method v2

1996-01-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Andy Guy writes (ftp method v2): eg, if: Filename: development/binary/text/a2gs-1.0-4.deb looks for a2gs-1.0-4.deb in the ls -lR listing (it will probably find it in text/ !). If it cannot find a Filename field it falls back on using pkgname-ver[-rev].deb. That's an improvement, but

Bug#2059: dpkg and depend on versions

1996-01-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Erick Branderhorst writes (Re: Bug#2059: dpkg and depend on versions): Yes, I'm sure, the transcription was in chronological order. I didn't understand the `5' either. Chronological order ? I was thinking that perhaps the was causing it? Is the conflicting version number calculated from

Re: binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories

1996-01-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Raul Miller writes (Re: binary-alpha and binary-sparc directories): How about the option of a better record of what has happened? For example, currently, if multiple packages supply the same file only the most recently installed package has the files listed in it's .list file. If we have

Bug#2060: dpkg and depends on version again

1996-01-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Erick Branderhorst writes (Re: Bug#2060: dpkg and depends on version again): How about = = for less/greater than or equal to Ok for strictly less/greater thani Ok for less/greater than or equal to (backwards compatibility, generates warning from dpkg-deb) Ok but an

Re: new syslogd

1996-06-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Dale Scheetz writes (Re: new syslogd): ... Well, sysklogd conflicts with syslogd. I assume this means that it conflicts with it's conffiles too? No. The thought was that this could be why dselect has problems with syslogd and sysklogd. Could you please elaborate on these problems ? Ian.

Bug#3327: cern-httpd postinst hangs if daemon configured for inetd

1996-06-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: cern-httpd Version: 3.0-6 The cern-httpd postinst tries to start the daemon, like this: start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --oknodo --exec /usr/sbin/cern-httpd If the server is configured to run out of inetd, as I have it, this (probably) runs cern-httpd and hangs. If you type an HTTP

Re: Porting and the bug reporting system

1996-06-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Martin Schulze writes (Re: Porting and the bug reporting system): ... But as Michael said, the bugtracking system has a long backlock. Your bugs won't reach the maintainer until Ian has repaired it. The bug tracking system is now working fine, and answering mail almost immediately. The only

Source packaging - alternatives

1996-06-30 Thread Ian Jackson
I've been reading the discussion ... Firstly, I'm glad to have disposed of the `byte-for-byte original source archive' idea (and that some of the people I thought were advocating this were merely advocating that we should be able to extract the original source files somehow from our source

buzz-fixed - it is essential; how do we make it ?

1996-06-30 Thread Ian Jackson
I'm absolutely convinced that we need a `buzz-fixed' directory, to which Debian-1.1.patchlevel and stable are made to point. I propose that we organise this as follows: * Packages that need to go into buzz-fixed have in the dchanges file `Distribution: unstable buzz-fixed' or perhaps just

Bug#3449: netpbm provides no way to make non-RAWBITS file

1996-06-30 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: netpbm Version: 1994.03.01p1-1 I tried to find a way to make the netpbm tools supplied in the package produce a file that was in the ASCII-only format described in pnm(5), rather than the binary format, but this didn't appear to be possible. I think it should be, perhaps as a new program

Re: kernel-source and kernel-headers packages

1996-06-30 Thread Ian Jackson
Brian Mays writes (Re: kernel-source and kernel-headers packages): Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can't these be retired ? ... Why not just ship the (debianised, obviously) source to the kernels we ship as .tar.gz and .diff.gz, just like any other binary package ? Here is one

Bug#3450: netpbm should replace/conflict with pbmplus ?

1996-06-30 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: netpbm Version: 1994.03.01p1-1 I got a huge number of file conflicts between pbmplus (10dec91-2) and netpbm, all for the manpages. Either the manpages should have the suffix .1netpbm instead of .1 (though as the binaries are in /usr/bin this is probably unnecessary) or netpbm should

Re: xterm_color with no colors

1996-06-30 Thread Ian Jackson
Mark Eichin writes (Re: xterm_color with no colors): Why does the colour xterm package not set TERM correctly by default ? because I didn't know that xterm-color *existed* as a terminfo entry. The entry is *not* part of the xterm-color package; I have no idea where it comes from. I'll put

Re: Bug#3422: termcap entry too long error

1996-06-30 Thread Ian Jackson
Dale Scheetz writes (Re: Bug#3422: termcap entry too long error): [...] However, it seems to me that if dpkg made some kind of running log entry of it's activities, or could time-stamp it's installations, debugging of these two problems could provide adequate answers to who did what to whom.

Bug#3989: `w' produces corrupted output

1996-08-02 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: procps Version: 1.01a-1 -chiark:~ w 2:13pm up 17 days, 12:23, 12 users, load average: 0.31, 0.20, 0.14 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT richard ttyp0mojave.elmail.co 9:24am 26.00s 0.65s 0.65s -bash pjb1008 ttyp2ash.eng:0.0

Documentation formats

1996-08-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Increasingly, documentation is in a generic markup format that can be processed into various output formats either by standard tools or ones that come with the package. For example: * GNU Texinfo can be converted to Info, DVI (and hence rather large PostScript) and HTML. * The Linux FAQ

Emacs per-package startup files

1996-08-05 Thread Ian Jackson
OK, so we've decided to have packages put their Emacs startup stuff in a directory, with one file per package. The directory obviously ought to go in /etc, and the files made conffiles, so that the sysadmin can reconfigure things. /etc/emacs/site-start.d ? Ian.

`experimental' as a Distribution value

1996-08-06 Thread Ian Jackson
I'm shortly going to release experimental versions of dpkg and hello. They'll use the new source package format, which hasn't settled down yet, so they ought to go in project/experimental. Unless someone tells me otherwise I'm going to ship them with `Distribution: experimental' in the .changes

dpkg 1.3.0, hello 1.3-7: new source package format

1996-08-06 Thread Ian Jackson
MESSAGE- Format: 1.5 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 02:31:52 +0100 Source: dpkg Binary: dpkg Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.3.0 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: dpkg - Package maintenance system for Debian Linux Changes: dpkg

dpkg-changelog-mode (dpkg-changelog.el)

1996-08-07 Thread Ian Jackson
a format that the latest dpkg supports (so that people don't need to find your home-grown parser to build your package). Ian. ;; dpkg-changelog.el --- change log maintenance for dpkg-style changelogs ;; Keywords: maint ;; Copyright (C) 1996 Ian Jackson ;; This file is part of dpkg

Draft manuals

1996-08-07 Thread Ian Jackson
I have finished draft versions of the programmers' and policy manuals. The PostScript conversion isn't working yet, but they are available for your perusal in HTML or plain text (with or without overstrikes). HTML via the Web: http://chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk/~ian/programmer.html/

sysv `news' package is unclear

1996-08-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: news Priority: extra Section: admin Description: System news tool. (System V) In addition the fact that this description is inadequate (which will have been reported automatically a few weeks ago), IMO the package name is very misleading - it will make people think the package has

Re: /usr/doc/copyright/package - /usr/doc/package/copyright ?

1996-08-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Dirk Eddelbuettel writes (Re: /usr/doc/copyright/package - /usr/doc/package/copyright ?): [Ian Jackson:] Should we move the copyright file (and the examples directory) into the per-package directory in /usr/doc ? Good idea. Can we also recommend/impose to include the Changelog [1] file

dpkg 1.3.1: source package tools' documentation improvements

1996-08-08 Thread Ian Jackson
The main new thing here is a manpage for dpkg-source and the related scripts. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.5 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 02:36:04 +0100 Source: dpkg Binary: dpkg Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.3.1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Ian Jackson

Re: /usr/doc/copyright/package - /usr/doc/package/copyright ?

1996-08-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Erick Branderhorst writes (Re: /usr/doc/copyright/package - /usr/doc/package/copyright ?): ... No, the /usr/doc/package dir is a dir which normally comes with all stuff in it gzipped and I think we should keep it like that. We can not gzip copyright files (this has been decided/mandated long

Re: /usr/doc/copyright/package - /usr/doc/package/copyright ?

1996-08-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Guy Maor writes (Re: /usr/doc/copyright/package - /usr/doc/package/copyright ?): ... I don't think we should move the copyright file. Most people don't ever need to look at them, so it's simpler if they're out of the way. What about the changelog ? In general I'm not convinced that keeping

Draft manual updates PostScript version available

1996-08-08 Thread Ian Jackson
I've made a few minor edits and rearrangements. The PostScript (via Lout) formatting is now working. Updated versions are at: http://chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk/~ian/programmer.html/ http://chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk/~ian/policy.html/ ftp://chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk/users/ian/dpkg-doc/ So, what should I

Re: How do I compare unstable/source to unstable/binary-m68k

1996-08-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Guy Maor writes in private email - I hope he won't mind me posting: On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd like to see where we sit as far as catching up and was wondering if anyone has a nice little script that will compare the source directory

Bug#4075: Possible security problem with lrzsz

1996-08-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: lrzsz Version: 0.12a-5 I've not heard from the author wrt my query below. I'm filing this bug to make sure that this issue gets checked rather than forgotten. Thank you for your attention. Ian. Mike Neuffer writes (Re: lrzsz ? Re: forwarded message from CERT Bulletin): ... I'm not

Bug#4073: make pattern rules delete intermediate files

1996-08-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: make Version: 3.74-11 Given the Makefile below in an empty directory: chiark:d make clean rm -f t.* u.* chiark:d make echo bar t.bar echo foo t.foo echo wombat u.wombat echo spong u.spong rm t.bar chiark:d We see that the intermediate file used for the pattern rules (%.bar) is

Bug#4074: problems with 1.1 release

1996-08-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: dpkg Version: 1.3.1 Scott Barker writes (Re: problems with 1.1 release): ... ok. Although, I beg to differ about the *.conffiles: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.conffiles /var/lib/dpkg/info/adduser.conffiles /var/lib/dpkg/info/at.conffiles /var/lib/dpkg/info/base.conffiles [etc] Oops,

Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with it

1996-08-09 Thread Ian Jackson
David Engel writes (Re: Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with it): Ian Jackson writes: ... Hmm. Why is it necessary for gcc to know which version of cpp is available, or for it to have exactly the right one ? Would you want the front-end driver (gcc) to use different

Bug#4078: lynx should be in `contrib'

1996-08-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: lyx, ftp.debian.org Version: 0.9.28-1 This package depends on a non-free package (xforms). It should be in contrib, not in the distribution proper. Ian.

Bug#4079: compress-package should be in `contrib'

1996-08-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: compress-package, ftp.debian.org Version: 1.0.1-1 This package is only an installer for a non-free piece of software. It should be in contrib, not in the distribution proper. Ian.

Documentation formats

1996-08-09 Thread Ian Jackson
I've just added the subsection below to the draft policy manual. Bruce, tell me if you want me to say something different. I'd like to come up with some rather more formal way of distributing our different documentation formats. Perhaps we should create a new subdirectory of the FTP site for

Bug#4088: ghostview does not put filename in window title

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
(version, 1, nameprop); +} +if (nameprop.value XtIsRealized(toplevel)) { +XSetWMName(XtDisplay(toplevel), XtWindow(toplevel), nameprop); +} if (app_res.show_date) { if (doc doc-date) { label = doc-date; -- Ian Jackson, at home. [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: dpkg-changelog-mode (dpkg-changelog.el)

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
. * -mmaintainer synopsis changed in dpkg-genchanges usage. * debian/substvars may now contain blank lines. -- Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 8 Aug 1996 02:36:04 +0100

Caldera's lawsuit against Microsoft

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
I should think that you've all heard about this by now - if not go and look at comp.os.linux.announce. I'm just posting here on what's really an irrelevant topic to say that I think it's a very good thing that someone is challenging Microsoft. I mailed Lyle Ball at Caldera to tell him so, and he

Re: Alphas and libc dependencies

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Miquel van Smoorenburg writes (Re: Alphas and libc dependencies): You (Ian Jackson) wrote: ... 2a. Give the package containing our version of glibc version 0 the name libc5. 2b. Implement version numbers for virtual packages so that we can use one here. I think 2b should be done

Re: fileutils can now replace perforate...

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Mark Eichin writes (Re: fileutils can now replace perforate...): [Ian Jackson:] But --sparse=auto is impossible to implement correctly on many systems, and filesystem-dependent on others ! Depends on what you mean by sparse... the trick is that you can use stat() to determine if the file

Re: Alphas and libc dependencies

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Miquel van Smoorenburg writes (Re: Alphas and libc dependencies): ... In addition to my last message, here is an alternative I've just though of. Why don't we just provide dummy (eg empty) libc5, libdb1 etc packages, and let libc6 depend on them. Then libc5 etc _will_ be installed.. I think

Re: Emacs per-package startup files

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes (Re: Emacs per-package startup files): Umm, /usr/lib/emacs/site-lisp/ is already there, and already the right place for this sort of thing. Next question? Err, I don't think so. Files in /usr/lib/emacs/site-lisp aren't loaded automatically (and shouldn't be). As for

Re: Bug#3984: NIS writes error message to STDERR

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Miquel van Smoorenburg writes (Bug#3984: NIS writes error message to STDERR): ... This is a bug in the library; the library routines print this (they shouldn't ofcourse). Heeemmm can anybody tell me how to redirect a bug report to another package, libc5 in particular? Yes. [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Dale Scheetz writes (Re: New virtual package names. ): ... On another note, is there an editor virtual package? Is there any interest in adding one? It could be valuable to add Provides: editor to ae (and others as well). Sorry I'm coming into this so late (just over a week, in fact), but I

Re: Name clash in prospective package

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Lars Wirzenius writes (Re: Name clash in prospective package ): ... For instance, there's no guarantee that /usr/local/lib exists, or that the admin wants it to exist, or that it won't cause any trouble if it does exist. I can't think of anything that would break, but admins are allowed to do

Bug#3991: dselect has confusing and bizarre interface

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Daniel Quinlan writes (Bug#3991: dselect has confusing and bizarre interface): [ complaints about dselect's user interface ] I am merging this with Bug#1037. Offers of assistance are welcome. Ian.

Debian, Linux, the FSSTND, the FHS and BSD

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
(Note: this message is crossposted between two mailing lists - you should probably follow up on only one.) What used to be the FSSTND group has changed composition somewhat, and now includes a number of people from the BSD world. It set itself the goal of producing a joint filesystem layout

Re: epoch?? how to make squid-1.0.5 squid-1.0beta16

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Craig Sanders writes (epoch?? how to make squid-1.0.5 squid-1.0beta16): ... Was epoch implemented? How do I use it? Yes. See the draft programmers' manual. Ian.

Re: Replaces: and virtual packages?

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Yves Arrouye writes (Replaces: and virtual packages?): I thought having a package with Provides: compress Replaces: compress would be like Provides: compress Conflicts: compress except that the conflict will not appear and I hoped that when the package was

Re: Is it okay to download orig source once only?

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Yves Arrouye writes (Is it okay to download orig source once only?): ... I propose that we upload once somepackage_release.tar.gz which unpacks to somepackage-release.orig/ and then further uploads would be somepackage_release-deb.diff.gz

Re: gcc and binutils

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Bernd Eckenfels writes (gcc and binutils): ist it possile that on a fresh new install gcc is installed before binutils is installed, and therefore fail to configure? If I run configure afterwards everything is fine. Will dpkg install a package first if it sees that other ones depend on it?

Re: Draft manuals

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Raul Miller writes (Re: Draft manuals): Some thought about qmail should occur [in the section on mail processing]. qmail doesn't use a mail spool directory for security reasons, mail boxes are in the user's home directory by default. And, of course, there's the maildir format for people

Re: /usr/doc/copyright/package - /usr/doc/package/copyright ?

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Erick Branderhorst writes (Re: /usr/doc/copyright/package - /usr/doc/package/copyright ?): ... But a /usr/doc/copyright dir should remain. The only contents allowed in there would be generic copyright messages like GPL LGPL BSD and so on. Putting these generic files in

Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with it

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
David Engel writes (Re: Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with it): ... Because they're designed to work together. That's why the FSF includes cpp with gcc instead of packaging it separately. This doesn't much sense to me, at least not without more detail. Why do gcc and cpp

sgmlspm 1.03ii-1: initial experimental release

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
+0100 Source: sgmlspm Binary: sgmlspm Architecture: source all Version: 1.03ii-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: sgmlspm- Perl modules for processing SGML parser output Changes: sgmlspm (1.03ii-1) experimental; urgency=LOW

Re: Emacs per-package startup files

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Mark Eichin writes (Re: Emacs per-package startup files): ... [it would make it easier to fix the /etc/passwd problem that mhpower mentioned], but in those cases we can't really change the database because of existing use, whereas with emacs we are free to do that.) Right, that was my line

Re: CC's on this mailing list

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Miquel van Smoorenburg writes (Re: CC's on this mailing list): ... I've noticed on some other lists that everything that is posted on the list has From: set to the original sender, Reply-To: to the list address and Cc: deleted. This is actually very nice. Would it be hard (or just a bad

Releases other than by the package maintainer

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
There are a couple of circumstances when a new version of a package needs to be released by someone other than the usual maintainer: * Architecture-specific patches which need to be integrated. * Maintainer is away or can't do it for some other reason. * Urgent security and other fixes. I

Conversion procedure for new source packages DRAFT

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
the binary package(s) and test extract the source package(s). * Sign the release: either re-run dpkg-buildpackage (this will rebuild the package entirely), or PGP-sign the .dsc, rebuild the .changes using dpkg-genchanges, and then PGP-sign the .changes. -- Ian Jackson, at home. [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: New package standards - LAST CALL

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Miquel van Smoorenburg writes (Re: New package standards - LAST CALL): ... I also think that when you make the new source package official, we should warn all maintainers of the base packages and ask them to convert their packages to the new standard. If they don't react in say 2 weeks,

Re: Name clash in prospective package

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Lars Wirzenius writes (Re: Name clash in prospective package ): Ian Jackson: The point of not putting things in /usr/local isn't, as I see it, so Well, I'm not in full agreement, but it's not important enough. Fair enough. I propose the following resolution: I can live with the what you

Re: Qmail, smail and sendmail

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Yves Arrouye writes (Re: Qmail, smail and sendmail): ... That's what I do. I even run sendmail -bi if newaliases is not found. But I wanted to be sure that all mail packages do provide the same user way of defining aliases, even if they manage them differently after that. I'll specify in the

Re: CC's on this mailing list

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Yves Arrouye writes (CC's on this mailing list): Ian Jackson writes: I'm considering adding a paragraph to the policy manual telling people not to CC each other when replying to messages on debian-devel. Is it the consensus of the list that this would be a good idea ? It would

Re: Pb: gdb cannot read core from 2.0.8 (is it a gdb or kernel problem)?

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Yves Arrouye writes (Re: Pb: gdb cannot read core from 2.0.8 (is it a gdb or kernel problem)?): ... But the message is really misleading... It would ne nice if Gdb checked wether the prog arg was a core first, and in this case tell that's the case and remind usage. (Not that I ask that it does

Bug#4093: start-stop-daemon fails to kill process

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Yves Arrouye writes (Bug#4093: start-stop-daemon fails to kill process): Maybe should it kill the process whose pid is in the pidfile, even if it does not think the executable is running? Here is an example of the problem: marin66# /etc/init.d/apache stop no /usr/sbin/apache found; none

debiandoc-sgml: SGML-based formatting for Debian/dpkg manuals

1996-08-11 Thread Ian Jackson
: Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: debiandoc-sgml - Documentation formatting for Debian manuals Changes: debiandoc-sgml (1.0) experimental; urgency=LOW . * Initial release. Files: 734bc16c3554423a36972a2a3f2b5413 551 text optional debiandoc-sgml_1.0.dsc

dpkg 1.3.3: manuals included, source packaging improvements

1996-08-11 Thread Ian Jackson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.5 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 23:05:41 +0100 Source: dpkg Binary: dpkg Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.3.3 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: dpkg - Package maintenance system

dpkg 1.3.3: manuals included, source pkg improvements - really

1996-08-11 Thread Ian Jackson
, 10 Aug 1996 23:35:51 +0100 Source: dpkg Binary: dpkg Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.3.3 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: dpkg - Package maintenance system for Debian Linux Changes: dpkg (1.3.3) experimental; urgency=low

hello 1.3-9: extra comment in debian/rules

1996-08-11 Thread Ian Jackson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.5 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 22:23:39 +0100 Source: hello Binary: hello Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.3-9 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: hello - The classic greeting, and a good

debiandoc-sgml 1.0.1: bugfix

1996-08-11 Thread Ian Jackson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.5 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 13:26:27 +0100 Source: debiandoc-sgml Binary: debiandoc-sgml Architecture: source all Version: 1.0.1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: debiandoc-sgml

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