Re: basic income for debian developers

2009-07-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Thomas Koch wrote: > If this topic is not appropriate for this list, I beg your paddon. debian-devel is for technical discussions. I don't believe there is any debian list appropriate for your message. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNS

Re: Paid help for DDs and Debian infrastructure?

2009-07-28 Thread Paul Wise
This mail should have been posted to debian-project, debian-devel is for technical discussions. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-07-29 Thread Paul Wise
I note that you plan to modify the helper tools (debhelper/cdbs/yada/etc). I think that you will get better coverage by modifying dpkg-dev instead. Have you not considered that option or am I missing a disadvantage of it? Thanks for working on this, it is really great to see it happening finally.

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-07-29 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Michael Banck wrote: > AFAIK, dpkg-dev is only invoked at source-unpack and package-build time, > i.e. you need a full DEBIAN/ directory for dpkg-dev to act on. > > At that time, either you have thrown away the debugging information > already (via dh_strip, e.g.),

Re: Installation of packages in home directories.

2009-08-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:31 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:20:46PM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi a écrit : >> >> Anyway RH has support to install packages in own homes. This kind of >> abstraction could be nice to have. > > Hi all, > > I would really love to have such a functi

Re: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > It's been a while and I'm now really wondering what to do with > Blender. So that everyone can understand, I'm going to try and sum up > what I'm facing. Please note it's not intended to be a rant, rather a > summary of what I've to deal wi

Re: What is the best place for package meta-data ?

2009-08-02 Thread Paul Wise
I think tying such information to a source or binary package is a bad idea since it changes independently of the package. I have similar issues with the Homepage field and to a lesser extent, watch files. Do you think that apt needs to have access to this information? The Packages/Sources files a

Re: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 "Squeeze" release goals

2009-08-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I'm eager for more details, in particular: In addition: I seem to remember that some arch:all packages can only be built on some architectures due to being firmware for specific CPUs or similar. Will there be a Build-Arch field or a w

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-08-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Steve M. Robbins wrote: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 03:08:02AM +0200, Meike Reichle wrote: >> - >> The Debian Project                                 http://www.debian.org/ >> Debian adopts time-ba

Re: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:07 PM, martin f krafft wrote: > No, but maybe we can revive it? Would you write to the domain owner? It is now a spam site so that may be costly or impossible. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian

Re: Status of new source formats project

2009-08-04 Thread Paul Wise
Perhaps you could talk to upstream about switching to either using unified diffs for updates, tarballs for every release or a git/etc repository? -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tro

Re: Non-unified patches and dpkg source format ‘3. 0 (quilt)’.

2009-08-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Charles Plessy (06/08/2009): >>  4) The reason why they should adopt a new diff format is because it is new. > > It *was*. 20 years ago. Perhaps it is about time it was made the default :) -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -

Re: backward/forward binary compatibility checker

2009-08-06 Thread Paul Wise
[CCing you since I presume you are not subscribed to debian-devel] [CCing the Debian release team since they may be interested] On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: >    Colleagues, I'm software engineer from Institute for System > Programing of Russian Academy of Sciences an

Re: What is the best place for package meta-data ?

2009-08-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > I think that you asked the key question, and that the answer will help us to > sort out the metadata contents in Debian packages. > > Currently, debian/control contains: > >  - Informations for the package manager (dpkg). For instance, the p

Re: What is the best place for package meta-data ?

2009-08-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > How to split up the Packages/Sources files into more granular pieces > would be nice, but which fields should go into which sets needs > defining, and which set of sets should be the default. For > compatability, it could continue

Re: backward/forward binary compatibility checker

2009-08-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:41 AM, Guillem Jover wrote: > How does this compare with projects like icheck or abicheck? icheck is fairly unmaintained, since upstream is a former Debian developer. No idea about abicheck, perhaps you could compare them Andrey? -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/P

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > I proposed [1] a GSoC project this spring which was accepted, and I'm thus > working on getting automatic debug packages into Debian. BTW, it would be nice if debug.debian.net were to continue to exist, but contain binaries and thei

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Neil Williams wrote: > On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:16:14 -0500 > Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> > What would you think of deprecating this header? >> >>         This would be bad, since when someone looks at the package, they >>  would not know easily what they have to l

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-12 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >        I too am wondering if we should defer the polivy change until >  the details get shaken out with a partial deployment of the scheme. Full deployment already happened (in Ubuntu). -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-12 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: > As .ddebs?  What's the policy about what can go in them and how are they > integrated with the packaging tools?  And could you point me at the Ubuntu > share for the debugging information so that I can see what protocols it's > using? > > Pri

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Romain Beauxis wrote: > What I mean is that we can use the information contained in the standards- > version tag and display at this place the list of changes that were done since > 3.7.0 > > That makes a difference in the sense that it helps to improve the workflo

Re: Situation of long threads in -devel

2009-08-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Christian Perrier writes: > >> I think that, in the very long threads that are currently cluttering up >> -devel, we would benefit from most participants to cool down and >> consider moving from the extreme positions I've seen when overreading

Re: Debian Policy 3.8.3.0 released: localized manpages

2009-08-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Christian Perrier wrote: > Before people "blindly" update their Standards-Version, I deeply > suggest looking at this item: > >>   * Localized man pages should either be kept up-to-date with the >>     original version or warn that they're not up-to-date, either wi

Re: Debian Policy 3.8.3.0 released: localized manpages

2009-08-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Neil Williams wrote: > po4a > > I did start such a guide via my blog during DebConf8 > > http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/serendipity/index.php?/archives/129-po4a-translation-support-from-any-format.html Would you (or anyone else) be willing to turn this into an a

Re: request for disks

2009-08-21 Thread Paul Wise
[CCing you since I presume you are not subscribed] On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Ashish Bista wrote: > I am Ashish Bista from Central Department of Computer Science and > Information Technology, Tribhuvan University, Nepal. I am currently > student of M.Sc. first semester. Although we are usi

Re: request for disks

2009-08-21 Thread Paul Wise
>> University, Nepal, was requesting for Debian CDs or DVDs) >> >> Quoting Paul Wise (p...@debian.org): >> >>> Unfortunately there don't appear to be any Debian CD/DVD vendors in >>> your country. You might want to try the vendors who distribute >

Re: Registry for cache directories (to save backup space)

2009-08-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Thomas Koch wrote: > while watching rsnapshot doing a backup of my laptop, I thought: Wouldn't it > be fine, to have a registry of cache directories that shouldn't be backed up? ... > So a debian package could register all the places, where it puts caches and a >

Re: Release goal: Getting rid of unneeded *.la / emptying dependency_libs

2009-08-24 Thread Paul Wise
I've just sent libtool upstream a mail referencing this thread and also my dependency_libs_shared idea: http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2009/08/msg00218.html Hopefully they will implement something useful so that static linking with libtool is still viable. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debi

Re: Release goal: Getting rid of unneeded *.la / emptying dependency_libs

2009-08-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Paul Wise wrote: > I've just sent libtool upstream a mail referencing this thread and > also my dependency_libs_shared idea: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2009/08/msg00218.html > > Hopefully they will implement something useful

Re: RFC round 5: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-08-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:14 AM, gregor herrmann wrote: > On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:13:58 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > >> On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, Ben Finney wrote: >> > I think that either of ‘Origin: vendor’ (for a patch created by the >> > package maintainer) or ‘Origin: other’ would be better than

Re: about device driver pgm.

2009-08-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Harsha s.v. Banavasi wrote: > I am Harsha, i have written device driver pgm(1553 communication device) in > redhat linux 2.4 kernel which is running fine.  Now My boss asked me to > change the OS to Debian 5.0  with 2.6 kernel. But now my device driver pgm Your p

Re: Python2.6 in unstable?

2009-09-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Bastian Venthur wrote: > will python2.6 enter unstable and eventually next stable or was it > decided to skip 2.6 and go straight to 3.x some time? > > I'm just asking, since 2.6.2 and 3.1.1 seem to be the current production > versions according to http://python.or

Re: shared library in binary-package?

2009-09-06 Thread Paul Wise
Sounds like upstream should be persuaded to move the shared library code into the daemon since there is no reason for it to be in a library. Until then, install it as a private shared library and use rpath so the daemon/plugins can find the library. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

Re: RFC round 5: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-09-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 10:30:14PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >> Anyway, I'd rather wait some time until people have tried using this >> format before deciding if we must make some special case due to >> git format-patch. > > It's not a s

Re: debian php5-fpm deb package

2009-09-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Eduard Nemours wrote: > this is a feature request to integrate php5-fpm packages into. > It is currently in (final) development for Ubuntu 9.10. Please get the patch merged into PHP upstream and then file a wishlist bug on the php5 package to update it to the lates

Re: State of developers-reference

2009-09-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Mittwoch, 9. September 2009, Jon Dowland wrote: >> If this was a popular choice (which it doesn't appear to >> be); it would be blocked on sorting out the wiki.d.o >> content licensing. > > No. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > I'd like to remind maintainers that in order to reach bug reporters to > ask for tests etc. you _need_ to explicitely Cc the bug reporter, else > he won't receive the mail and of course not do the tests etc.  It's now > quite a few times t

Re: Cmap file are now free: List of package to move to main

2009-09-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: > The following package that depends on cmap (according to licence file) may be > moved to main: > cmap-adobe-cns1 > cmap-adobe-gb1 > cmap-adobe-japan1 > cmap-adobe-korea1 I already filed bugs on these. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.

Re: RC bug: symlinks in /etc

2009-09-24 Thread Paul Wise
Personally I'd prefer installing the package's patterns to /usr/share/l7-protocols. Patterns installed from source could go to /usr/local/share/l7-protocols. Patterns created by the sysadmin could be stored in /etc/l7-protocols/patterns.d (or similar) and the package shouldn't store any symlinks th

Re: DEP-3 update: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-09-26 Thread Paul Wise
Hmm, in the examples, I would expect that the Origin/Bug/Bug-Debian fields would be before the Subject field. If they aren't then I would have thought they were part of the long description. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.de

Re: GObject introspection mini-policy, take 2

2009-09-26 Thread Paul Wise
2009/9/26 Josselin Mouette : > 1. Directory layout > > GObject-introspection data is generally provided in two formats: >      * XML format in /usr/share/gir-1.0/Foo-X.Y.gir >      * binary format in /usr/lib/girepository-1.0/Foo-X.Y.typelib ... > 6. Example > > Suppose that libfoo-2.0 is an API b

Re: Fields used in packages

2009-09-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 3:26 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Bugs is sort of an interesting case since there's no reason to ever > include it in a Debian package, but it's part of the package format and > people making packages for non-Debian distributions should be aware of > it.  reportbug honors it

Re: DEP-3 update: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-09-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Did you read the changes about the structure ? I did not. > It explains that we can have two sets of fields. The intended scenario for > this change is precisely to respond to this use-case of having a second set > of fields after some d

Re: Copyright infringement on www.rossbeazley.co.uk

2009-09-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Obey Arthur Liu wrote: > There are like hundreds of these cloning scams. Maybe we could implement > some kind of watermarking to blacklist IPs that do the cloning ? It would be trivial for them to work around that due to the OPML and FOAF feeds: http://planet.de

Re: DEB_MAINTAINER_MODE=1 versus DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=network.

2009-09-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > in my first experimentations I used DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS, but this leads to the > possibility of clashing with flag names that can be reserved later with a > different behaviour. On the other hand, if there are enough packages made > using >

Re: Policy §10.4 as a divergence from usptream (ren amings to remove extensions like .pl and .sh).

2009-09-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > I know that there has already been much of talk about this, but I am am > getting > more and more uncomfortable removing .pl or .sh extensions from programs when > upstream does not. So get upstream to change their filenames before packa

Re: Policy §10.4 as a divergence from usptream (ren amings to remove extensions like .pl and .sh).

2009-09-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > Would you consider this a blocker to inclusion into Debian? Upstream may > either release very slowly or may just not care about Debian, which > would result in the package to never end up in Debian. I'd consider not fixing it in the .de

Re: Policy §10.4 as a divergence from usptream (ren amings to remove extensions like .pl and .sh).

2009-09-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > Having an uncooperative upstream would likely make me think twice > about putting it in Debian in the first place. Or regret having already done so (gravitation, passage, primrose etc). -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

embedded copies of Unicode data?

2009-10-14 Thread Paul Wise
There are several copies of the Unicode data files in the archive, examples: charmap.app: /usr/lib/GNUstep/Applications/Charmap.app/Resources/UnicodeData.txt charmap.app: /usr/share/doc/charmap.app/UnicodeData.txt.gz clisp: /usr/lib/clisp-2.44.1/data/UnicodeDataFull.txt gnulib: /usr/share/gnulib/t

Re: embedded copies of Unicode data?

2009-10-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:59 PM, wrote: > I'd like to point out we have a package unicode-data, which has the > up-to-date unicode data files in it. I think we should file wishlist > bugs against packages using their own copies of this data. I forgot to mention that I brought this up after the

Re: Bug#551386: Per-package link to upstreams bugtracker

2009-10-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 6:23 AM, gregor herrmann wrote: > On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:27:45 +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: > >> Implementation-wise, this is probably best implemented via a new >> control header, similar to Homepage, containing the URL. But of course >> I’m open for other ideas. > > In

Re: Proposed mass prototypejs bug filing for multiple security issues

2009-10-18 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Michael S Gilbert wrote: > Let me know if this is OK, and whether there is anything else I should > be aware of. Excellent, please go ahead. See also the lintian warning (you seem to miss a few): http://lintian.debian.org/tags/embedded-javascript-library.html

Re: Build logs from local builds

2009-10-21 Thread Paul Wise
I've long thought that would be a good idea. However, IIRC the plan is to drop the .debs built by developers and build each upload on the buildds. That will mean that the build logs are available for all architectures. In the meantime, or if this doesn't go ahead after all, it would be nice if ther

Re: Switch on compiler hardening defaults

2009-10-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > Ever thought about integrating PaX [0] per default in Debian? > I'm however not sure how much this actually breaks ;) Any idea if these patches will be merged upstream? -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNS

Re: Switch on compiler hardening defaults

2009-10-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On mar., 2009-10-27 at 09:32 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Christoph Anton Mitterer >> wrote: >> >> > Ever thought about integrating PaX [0] per default in Debian? >>

Re: transitioning from a single to split package

2009-11-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 3:56 AM, gregor herrmann wrote: > On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:15:35 +0100, Penny Leach wrote: > >> Well, that's logically equivalent to installing multiple versions of the >> same package.  At the moment,  there's one moodle installation, which has >> code that lives in /usr/shar

Re: DEP-5: binary package affected by license $foo

2009-11-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > I think that we are still far from producing copyright files specific to > binary > packages There are already copyright files in binary packages that are different to the source package debian/copyright; some of the source packages I've

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-09 Thread Paul Wise
Probably the best solution is to get all the web browsers out there (especially Firefox) to drop the User-Agent HTTP header and not send it to web servers. It is abused way too often by web applications and never really was a good idea in the first place. If someone is on the whatwg/w3c lists and w

Re: common, FHS-compliant, default document root for the various web servers

2009-11-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 6:50 AM, sean finney wrote: > personally, beyond the aesthetically displeasing name, i'm really > skeptical that this will accomplish anything useful. > > * most apps require extra config and splitting out of stuff into other >  directories for fhs compliance anyway, thus

Re: common, FHS-compliant, default document root for the various web servers

2009-11-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Jan Hauke Rahm wrote: >> Support for multiple independent instances configured to use arbitrary >> locations for data/configuration, arbitrary vhosts and arbitrary >> sub-paths of those vhosts. > > That means: as many files reusable by each instance as possible, t

Re: Build logs from local builds

2009-11-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Mike Hommey wrote: > I actually never experienced problems that were not due to my DSL > connection, which means they can happen at any time. In which case I'd > dcut the last file and continue the upload. But when that happens in the > middle of a file that takes

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Raphael Geissert wrote: > I can't think of a better way to stop this ridiculous UA mess. It has to > stop, this silliness has lasted too many years already. A better way would bring on the User-Agent flag day, where all the browser vendors turn off submitting us

add information on what was adopted to the WNPP report?

2009-11-12 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:28 AM, wrote: > Total number of orphaned packages: 683 (new: 20) > Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 147 (new: 0) > Total number of packages requested help for: 53 (new: 0) This is kinda depressing, it would be nice to see information on what was adopte

Re: Ridiculously large packages

2009-11-20 Thread Paul Wise
[dropping debian-cd for this subthread] On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Cyril Brulebois (20/11/2009): >> And you didn't see Urban Terror and its 700+ MB yet! Speaking of >> which, what's the status of data.debian.org? IIRC, it's been in the >> pipe for 2+ years at the v

Re: relocation error: ABI change?

2009-11-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Ludovico Cavedon wrote: > Kurt Roeckx wrote: >>> qutecom: relocation error: /usr/lib/qutecom/libphapi.so: symbol >>> CRYPTO_malloc_debug_init, version OPENSSL_0.9.8 not defined in file >>> libcrypto.so.0.9.8 with link time reference >>> >> >> It seems I missed that

Re: Advice regarding packages that can only be upgraded via dist-upgrade

2009-12-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:25 AM, أحمد المحمودي wrote: >  I am working on geda-gaf package [1]. It is almost ready except for a >  single issue: to upgrade the several geda-* packages, they can only >  upgrade using apt-get dist-upgrade, ie. an apt-get upgrade won't >  upgrade them, the reason is t

Re: dh_config_model_upgrade: package upgrade with Config::Model

2009-12-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > | As is adding a perl dependency to packages that have no previous need > | for perl. > > *shrug*, unless you're talking about embedded systems, which are of > course free to patch their way out of this some other way, most systems > will h

Re: New Menu category Applictions/Multimedia

2009-12-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Andreas Marschke wrote: > I'm hereby proposing an additional Category for this list of such applications > called Multimedia. This defines clearer what they are. Sounds reasonable to me, this would bring the Debian menu closer to the FreeDesktop menu, which has Au

Re: New Menu category Applictions/Multimedia

2009-12-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Andreas Marschke wrote: > I haven't had the freedesktop.org in mind at the time of writing it but yes it > is infact a reason to do this as well. > The bug is filed and should be open for broader discussion soon. You should have chosen wishlist severity for the b

Re: Bug#559761: ITP: release -- provides information about the current releases

2009-12-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Benjamin Drung wrote: > Am Montag, den 07.12.2009, 09:03 +0100 schrieb Frank Lin PIAT: >> On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 00:14 +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote: >> > For Debian I need some informations: Until when were following >> > releases supported: buzz, rex, bo, hamm, slink

Re: Bits from the kernel team

2009-12-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: >> > OSS >> > --- >> > >> > This has been a deprecated kernel interface for some time and will be >> > disabled for squeeze > > Done. > >> > with mechanisms put in place to deal with legacy users. > > Er, not sure. I guess oss4-dkms will be

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Carsten Hey wrote: > we should also think about marking transitional packages in some way. There was recently a proposal which would remove the need for transitional binary packages at all, apt would simply migrate the old package name to the new one. -- bye, p

Re: Where is "upstream" zlib 1.2.3.4 coming from?

2009-12-27 Thread Paul Wise
2009/12/28 Török Edwin : > So where does Debian get these new zlib releases from? Please address your question to the Debian zlib maintainer instead of debian-devel. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: quilt 3.0 source format and dpkg-source/dpkg-buildpackage

2009-12-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > The source format versions 3.0 (quilt) solves much of the issues in the above > paragraph, but comes with its own patch management system. How about > introducing > a new 3.0 variant that has the following features: > >  - no patch manage

Re: co-mentor for a GSoC proposal wanted: debbugs web submission

2007-03-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 11:52 +0100, Rafael Laboissiere wrote: > Instead of a GUI or a web interface, what I would love to have is a > curses-capable version of reportbug. As someone mentioned elsewhere in this > thread, browsing wnpp bug report titles in reportbug is a real pain. A > curses scrol

Re: co-mentor for a GSoC proposal wanted: debbugs web submission

2007-03-18 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, 2007-03-17 at 23:38 +0100, Rafael Laboissiere wrote: > > I still would like to have a search mechanism on the bug titles list. > > Okay, after searching through the list of bugs open against reportbug, I > found that this feature has been already requested twice: #358472 and > #358760. O

Bug#415700: ITP: chmdeco -- Compiled HTML Help (CHM) decompiler

2007-03-21 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Paul Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: chmdeco Version : 0.3.2 (to be released soon) Upstream Author : Paul Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (yes, me) * URL : http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/chmdeco/ * License

Re: Ethernet interface numbering in etch

2007-03-26 Thread Paul Wise
On 3/27/07, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Which means that your network interface wouldn't come up automatically when you changed hardware either, so that's not exactly better than the udev solution in that respect. :) Seems to me udev is only tangentially related to this discussio

Re: packages newer in Ubuntu than in Debian (reduced false positives)

2007-05-10 Thread Paul Wise
On 5/10/07, Bart Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Should be better now. http://people.debian.org/~bartm/borg/outdated.html Excellent. For even more usefulness points, this could be integrated into qa.d.o/developer.php - perhaps as extra columns in the watch area that would be initially hidde

Re: packages newer in Ubuntu than in Debian (reduced false positives)

2007-05-11 Thread Paul Wise
On 5/11/07, Bart Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Good idea. That might make my reports obsolete, and that would be OK for me. Integrating it into the newly ressurected dehs might be useful too. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] w

Re: Is Ron Lee MIA? (was Re: wxwidgets2.8)

2007-05-24 Thread Paul Wise
On 5/25/07, Aaron M. Ucko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Likewise, bitpim has moved to 2.8 upstream, forcing me to hold back or backport various GUI-related changes on their part, so I'd also greatly appreciate seeing wxWidgets 2.8 in Debian. However, I am concerned that its maintainer (Ron Lee) ma

Re: removing 'printtool' from archives

2007-05-28 Thread Paul Wise
On 5/27/07, A Mennucc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But I think that 'printtool' has outlived its usefullness: its database of printers (that is actually contained in the package 'printfilters-ppd', for some strange reason) is outdated; Have all of the printer files (especially the older ones) in

Re: arch-all-package shown with two versions on p.d.o

2007-06-10 Thread Paul Wise
On 6/10/07, Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Who is responsible for p.d.o? djpig & Joey and some others: http://blog.djpig.de/en/devel/debian/packages-status-update.html http://blog.djpig.de/en/devel/debian/tabbed-packages.html -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

2007-06-13 Thread Paul Wise
On 6/13/07, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It would be easy to get the list of packages that haven't reached testing in the n months (and have been in debian for more than n months). Such a list exists: http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/oldest.html -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/Pa

Re: What happened to Agnula.org (DeMuDi)?

2007-06-17 Thread Paul Wise
On 6/16/07, Joseph Neal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Piping in as a user, I can say this has caused me a bit of confusion on more than one occasion. Given that there are versions of the same packages which are alternately hosted by debian-multimedia.org and maintained by Christian Marillat and ho

Re: Looking for new FTP assistants

2007-07-10 Thread Paul Wise
On 7/10/07, Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - reporting illegal dependencies [5] (Anthony said last year that no one was looking at these; it seems to remain true) [5] http://ftp-master.debian.org/unmet-deps/ Looks like those are outdated. There is also http://edos.debian.net/

Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-07-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (Just for example, I recently orphaned xgalaga, so its new maintainers > decided to do something about #432398, which I had been sitting on for > some time as this issue was not resolved. Now I check my gnome machine > and it h

Re: Bug#489836: ITP: maq -- Mapping and Assembly with Quality

2008-07-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Description : Mapping and Assembly with Quality Please add "genetic" to the short description and no need to capitalise the words. Also, is "with Quality" needed, perhaps it needs to be "with probabilistic quality"?

Re: Bug#489836: ITP: maq -- Mapping and Assembly with Quality

2008-07-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This short description is actually the expansion of the `Maq' acronym. I > usually like to expand acronyms in the short description, but if it is > not appropriate, I will change it. Ah. My post was because I was concerne

Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-07-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:12 AM, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Second: XDG has less features than debian-menu currently does. For > instance, unless I'm mistaken it's not possible to specify in an XDG > .desktop file that a particular application is a curses or similar > application

Bug#490135: RFP: fdmf -- find duplicate music files

2008-07-09 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: fdmf Version : 0.0.9r Upstream Author : Kurt Rosenfeld * URL : http://w140.com/audio/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C, Perl Description :

Re: Debian release versioning

2008-07-12 Thread Paul Wise
I think that the versioning scheme needs to take into account the possible implementation of Joey Hess' CUT (Constantly Usable Testing) idea. I'd suggest 6.X would be CUT releases of lenny+1 and 6.0rY would be stable updates. Anyway, lets leave it up to the RMs to paint names and numbers on the bi

Re: RFC: Java (JAR) desktop integration/admin tool

2008-07-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 10:31 PM, RalfGesellensetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - place all jar files to /usr/share/java or /usr/lib/jar Locally installed and built stuff should go to /usr/local or /opt rather than there. > - register desktop relevant jar files in /etc/debian-desktop-jar.conf

Re: RFC: Java (JAR) desktop integration/admin tool

2008-07-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:17 AM, RalfGesellensetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what's the difference between /usr/share/menu/ & /etc/xdg/menus/ ? The former is for menu files for the Debian-specific menu (that isn't available in Debian GNOME by default). The latter lists FreeDesktop menus for d

Re: Bug#490857: ITP: watermelons -- watermelon bouncing game

2008-07-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Peter De Wachter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * URL : http://www.imitationpickles.org/melons/index.html Source code contains a duplicated non-free font (HURRYUP.TTF from ttf-larabie-straight). -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UN

Re: Status of Emdebian {ARM}

2008-07-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Work is ongoing to fold uClibc into Emdebian to reduce installation sizes > further. FYI, uclibc is no longer available in Debian sid/lenny. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Pls help me

2008-07-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Jithesh Chandran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My acer aspire 5310 notebook doesn't perform good with the debian os.. You have emailed the Debian development list, if you are looking for support, please read this page: http://www.debian.org/support In short,

Re: Intel Atom Processor

2008-07-21 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:31 AM, Kushal Koolwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And therefore I was thinking if Debian Project is planning to natively > support these? I noticed this page being created on the wiki recently: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAcerOne Looks like at least one person plans

Re: Intel Atom Processor

2008-07-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Kushal Koolwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For example, Ubuntu started the netbook-remix program to port applications > for Intel Atom processors based on the Intel's moblin project > (http://www.moblin.org/). > https://edge.launchpad.net/netbook-remix None of

Re: Screenshots of GUI applications (again)

2008-07-22 Thread Paul Wise
A note: the games team has implemented goplay (debtags based game browser that uses games-thumbnails) and games-thumbnails (a big .deb of small screenshots). -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Co

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