Re: Debian 10 please update gimp to 2.10....

2018-06-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
DutchGigalo, le lun. 11 juin 2018 23:16:21 -0700, a ecrit: > Debian 10 (buster) please update gimp to 2.10 gimp 2.10 is in unstable already, please be patient. Samuel

Re: multiple ITPs - mbrola voices

2018-04-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Chris Lamb, le sam. 21 avril 2018 16:28:49 +0100, a ecrit: > Let me play devil's advocate for a second… Whilst I would agree > that uploading a package containing all the existing ones for an > addition might potentially be wasteful of mirror bandwidth, rsync & > friends would surely be clever eno

Re: multiple ITPs - mbrola voices

2018-04-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Chris Lamb, le sam. 21 avril 2018 09:02:44 +0100, a ecrit: > Anyway, did you consider using dpkg's support for multiple source > tarballs? Yes. The thing is: I don't expect many updates (if any) of the existing packages: since they basically ship a couple of files in well-established plac

multiple ITPs - mbrola voices

2018-04-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
: wishlist Owner: Samuel Thibault * Package name: mbrola-ar1 Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Faculte Polytechnique de Mons - mbrola team * URL : http://tcts.fpms.ac.be/synthesis * License : see the file readme.txt in the source zip: non-

Re: Hi, I am blind

2018-04-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Paul Wise, le mar. 17 avril 2018 11:20:15 +0800, a ecrit: > On Mon, 2018-04-16 at 10:15 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Well, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=855446 > > accessible-via seems different to what I propose. > > accessible-via references

Re: Hi, I am blind

2018-04-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Paul Wise, le lun. 16 avril 2018 10:05:52 +0800, a ecrit: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 6:20 AM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: > > For example, adding a tag to mention if some package is or not > > accessible would be a good idea. > > There is already an accessibility facet, but it covers tools

Re: Hi, I am blind

2018-04-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Clément Hermann, le sam. 14 avril 2018 16:14:57 +0200, a ecrit: > There are no backports available > currently (https://backports.debian.org/, that would get you 3.28), and > I'm not sure how feasible it would be to backport it without backporting > all of GNOME. Only the at-spi part needs

Re: Updated proposal for improving the FTP NEW process

2018-03-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Andreas Tille, on sam. 10 mars 2018 12:32:50 +0100, wrote: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 04:44:43PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 02:43:34PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > > >> If a package is maintained in git, then re-using a version number > > >> means force-pushing a git ta

Re: A proposal for improving transparency of the FTP NEW process

2018-03-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, This reminds me a discussion at debconf: it could be useful that anybody be able to submit issues with the NEW package, so that for obvious things ftpmaster doesn't even have to spend time, and ideally ftpmaster would only look at packages which have already been reviewed not only by the up

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

2018-02-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Raphael Hertzog, on lun. 19 févr. 2018 15:52:14 +0100, wrote: > On Mon, 19 Feb 2018, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > But what if that upstream website goes down? We don't have the source > > any more. Better at least keep a copy of the tarball. > > Sure. But as a packager,

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

2018-02-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Raphael Hertzog, on lun. 19 févr. 2018 15:19:59 +0100, wrote: > On Fri, 16 Feb 2018, Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) wrote: > > > - we could relax our requirements and have a way to document the > > > limitations of those packages (wrt our usual policies) > > > > Which requirements are you referri

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

2018-02-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Michael Meskes, on sam. 17 févr. 2018 13:57:53 +0100, wrote: > > Minification is quite comparable to compilation. I will give you some > > examples from my frustration with Drupal8 in this answer. This can no > > longer be seen as source code: > > ... > > I disagree, it is not maintainable source

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

2018-02-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
W. Martin Borgert, on ven. 16 févr. 2018 18:59:21 +0100, wrote: > If I understand Samuels idea correctly, he likes to I don't. I'm just saying what I'm noticing, not what I like. > This is very much a web application problem. Other software is > less affected in my experience. Sure. But the cur

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

2018-02-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Holger Levsen, on ven. 16 févr. 2018 17:25:06 +, wrote: > > Or we could try to embrace the multiple-library-versions-in-the-same-root > > issue like distributions such as NixOS and Guix do. > > you can use their package managers, and thus these features, on Debian > today. there's also docker

Re: What can Debian do to provide complex applications to its users?

2018-02-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Raphael Hertzog, on ven. 16 févr. 2018 16:11:29 +0100, wrote: > it can break in many ways whenever one the > dozens of dependencies gets updated to some new upstream version To me, that's really the problem: people are writing and piling layers of free software without really caring a

Bug#886238: Please introduce official nosystemd build profile

2018-01-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Andrew Shadura, on mer. 03 janv. 2018 13:59:05 +0100, wrote: > On 3 January 2018 at 13:12, Hleb Valoshka <375...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Package: general > > Severity: wishlist > > > > Please introduce official nosystemd build profile so downstream > > distributions can send patches to package mainta

Re: Bug#884641: ITP: lwip -- small implementation of the TCP/IP protocol suite

2017-12-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Marc Haber, on mar. 19 déc. 2017 10:37:15 +0100, wrote: > The description should mention which version of IP is supported. While > IPv6 support has been mandatory for a decade, IPv6 not being mentioned > suggests (at least to me) that only the legacy IPv4 protocol is > supported. As you say, IPv6

Bug#884641: ITP: lwip -- small implementation of the TCP/IP protocol suite

2017-12-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Samuel Thibault * Package name: lwip Version : 2.0.3 Upstream Author : Adam Dunkels Leon Woestenberg * URL : http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/lwip/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C

Re: Unsustainable debian/rules as official build entry point?

2017-10-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Svante Signell, on mer. 18 oct. 2017 13:51:25 +0200, wrote: > On Wed, 2017-10-18 at 11:54 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 at 11:57:55 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > > > Building some packages for GNU/Hurd has been impossible in the > > > past, since also tests are run under fak

Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

2017-07-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Matt Zagrabelny, on mar. 11 juil. 2017 09:53:58 -0500, wrote: > Relatedly, network device name lengths are limited to the length of some > arbitrarily-sized struct field in the kernel ABI, > > Feature request to bump the size of of interface names struct? Any reason to > not do so? One re

Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

2017-07-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Simon McVittie, on mar. 11 juil. 2017 15:18:26 +0100, wrote: > Network devices are (as far as I know) the only class of device managed by > udev that is not backed by a device node, which means udev cannot provide > multiple equivalent names for the same device, Couldn't that be what should be fix

Re: P.S. Re: Debian 9 in a VM with Proxmox 5 system

2017-07-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Vincent Bernat, on lun. 10 juil. 2017 20:55:29 +0200, wrote: > but there is nothing difficult in identifying the right interface with > the new naming scheme. Errr, it may not look difficult to *you*, but to someone who is learning how to tinker Linux, things like enp0s25f1 looks really difficult

Bug#857882: ITP: fenrir -- userland console (TTY) screen reader written in python

2017-03-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Samuel Thibault * Package name: fenrir Version : 1.05 Upstream Author : chrys (chry...@web.de) * URL : https://linux-a11y.org/index.php?page=fenrir-screenreader * License : LGPLv3 Programming Lang: Python Description

Re: Bug#856033: ITP: brailleimg -- produce text images and graphs abusing Braille glyphs

2017-02-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Adam Borowski, on sam. 25 févr. 2017 23:21:55 +0100, wrote: > It's just that _some_ heretics read their mail in a buggy GUI client > or a web page, view commit messages on github rather than locally, and > so on. Right :/ Samuel

Re: Bug#856033: ITP: brailleimg -- produce text images and graphs abusing Braille glyphs

2017-02-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Adam Borowski, on sam. 25 févr. 2017 22:31:57 +0100, wrote: > On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 08:05:32PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Adam Borowski, on sam. 25 févr. 2017 18:24:33 +0100, wrote: > > > gnuplot relies on being able to place labels within the image, which works > &g

Re: Bug#856033: ITP: brailleimg -- produce text images and graphs abusing Braille glyphs

2017-02-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Adam Borowski, on sam. 25 févr. 2017 22:31:57 +0100, wrote: > On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 08:05:32PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > That's expected: some characters have double-width, others have > > zero-width. > > My test sheet accounts for that: it includes only wcwid

Re: Bug#856033: ITP: brailleimg -- produce text images and graphs abusing Braille glyphs

2017-02-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Adam Borowski, on sam. 25 févr. 2017 18:24:33 +0100, wrote: > Alas, it won't work: I see that, while alignment of the graph itself works > well, anything but terminals (which force a char-cell grid) fails to give > Braille and ASCII characters the same width, despite requesting fixed-width > displa

Re: Bug#856033: ITP: brailleimg -- produce text images and graphs abusing Braille glyphs

2017-02-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Adam Borowski, on ven. 24 févr. 2017 15:44:38 +0100, wrote: > Yeah, it is. There is one problem, though -- even if you install the extra > docs, > zgrep -i ubrl `dpkg -L imagemagick-6{.q16,-common,-doc}` > shows a wee bit too little for my taste. Indeed, apparently I forgot to add docum

Re: Bug#856033: ITP: brailleimg -- produce text images and graphs abusing Braille glyphs

2017-02-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Adam Borowski, on ven. 24 févr. 2017 14:35:36 +0100, wrote: > This tool takes an image and converts it to a dot matrix text > representation using the Unicode range U+2800..28FF. This allows > to hold an image at a resolution of 2×4 pixels per character used. Mmm, isn't that what conv

Re: mining system information of bugs

2017-02-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Adam Borowski, on jeu. 23 févr. 2017 13:37:36 +0100, wrote: > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 03:05:31PM +0800, gustavo panizzo wrote: > > > I've done some data mining on bug reports that include a "System > > > Information" section that reportbug adds. > > > > hours during the day > > 2016+, X scale: 1

Re: IPv6 problem for one debian mirror

2017-02-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Vincent Danjean, on Wed 08 Feb 2017 01:57:02 +0100, wrote: > I had this problem at work this afternoon (ie with Renater routing, > 2001:660:5301:: prefix) No problem from 2001:660:6101::/48 Samuel

Re: IPv6 problem for one debian mirror

2017-02-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Vincent Danjean, on Wed 08 Feb 2017 01:05:51 +0100, wrote: > However, the machine answers to IPv4 connections but not to IPv6 > $ time wget -6 ftp.fr.debian.org > --2017-02-08 00:53:58-- http://ftp.fr.debian.org/ > Résolution de ftp.fr.debian.org (ftp.fr.debian.org)… 2a01:e0c:1:1598::2 > C

Re: Request for help - scilab segfaults with TSX

2017-01-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Gilles Filippini, on Wed 04 Jan 2017 19:31:28 +0100, wrote: > On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 02:23:24 +0200 Adrian Bunk wrote: > > This looks like a threading bug in Scilab exposed by TSX. > > I've just noticed this RC bug [1] against scilab. FYI, glibc is about to just disable TSX entirely in vers

Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

2016-12-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Russ Allbery, on Thu 29 Dec 2016 12:24:28 -0800, wrote: > >> specifically "192.168.0.195/24", which is notation (IIRC) invented by this > >> command, > > It's possible that some other tool has abused CIDR notation in this way, > but ip is still the only place I ever see it. It's definitely not co

Re: HEADSUP: mails sent to n...@bugs.debian.org are NOT sent to the submitter

2016-12-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Ian Jackson, on Wed 28 Dec 2016 20:03:11 +, wrote: > Even with auto-subscription by default, maintainers would still have > to mail NNN-submitter to ask for moreinfo, Yes. The only way to really fix the issue starting the thread is to change nnn@'s behavior, and possibly change bots to

Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

2016-12-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Marc Haber, on Wed 28 Dec 2016 11:33:13 +0100, wrote: > On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 14:50:50 +0100, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote: > >With this post I want to encourage fellow maintainers to stop depending > >on net-tools, which is obsolete software and has been replaced long ago > >by iproute. > >

Re: unattended-upgrades by default?

2016-12-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
Ian Jackson, on Sun 25 Dec 2016 23:45:37 +, wrote: > Samuel Thibault writes ("Re: unattended-upgrades by default?"): > > SZALAY Attila, on Sun 25 Dec 2016 20:54:26 +0100, wrote: > > > If we replace postgresql with postfix, that is much more closer to the >

HEADSUP: mails sent to n...@bugs.debian.org are NOT sent to the submitter

2016-12-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
This happens again and again... Quite a few maintainers don't seem to realize that mails sent to n...@bugs.debian.org are not sent to the bug submitter, and the bug tracking thus halts down completely when the maintainer asks for information only to the bot, and not to the human. I don't know how

Re: unattended-upgrades by default?

2016-12-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
SZALAY Attila, on Sun 25 Dec 2016 20:54:26 +0100, wrote: > Hi All, > > On Sun, 2016-12-25 at 08:18 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Scott Kitterman, on Sun 25 Dec 2016 01:27:58 -0500, wrote: > > > On Sunday, December 25, 2016 06:36:52 AM Samuel Thibault wrote: > >

Re: unattended-upgrades by default?

2016-12-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Scott Kitterman, on Sun 25 Dec 2016 01:27:58 -0500, wrote: > On Sunday, December 25, 2016 06:36:52 AM Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Paul van der Vlis, on Sun 25 Dec 2016 01:34:15 +0100, wrote: > > > I would like it when > > > desktop users could get a message that pr

Re: unattended-upgrades by default?

2016-12-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Paul van der Vlis, on Sun 25 Dec 2016 01:34:15 +0100, wrote: > I would like it when > desktop users could get a message that programms has to be restarted. > Not sure this is important for servers too, I would think so. In a mail server we have, the mysql upgrades are problematic: while the sql se

Bug#846340: ITP: mlv -- Simplified multimedia library in C for beginners

2016-11-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Samuel Thibault * Package name: mlv Version : 2.0.2 Upstream Author : Adrien Boussicault and Marc Zipstein * URL : http://www-igm.univ-mlv.fr/~boussica/mlv/index.html * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description

Re: More 5 november in the release schedule

2016-11-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, on Sun 13 Nov 2016 12:25:33 +0100, wrote: > Marc Haber, on Sun 13 Nov 2016 12:16:46 +0100, wrote: > > But we currently treat "does not build at all" or "eats my entire > > ~ on installation" the same way like "leaves an idle directory in

Re: More 5 november in the release schedule

2016-11-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Marc Haber, on Sun 13 Nov 2016 12:16:46 +0100, wrote: > But we currently treat "does not build at all" or "eats my entire > ~ on installation" the same way like "leaves an idle directory in > /var/lib after an > install-purge-reinstall-old-version-update-remove-reinstall-purge > cycle". Don't conf

Re: More 5 november in the release schedule

2016-11-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Marc Haber, on Sun 13 Nov 2016 11:48:06 +0100, wrote: > I'd rather have a badly maintained package than none. That's probably the real point where people differ. To me, releasing in Debian means some given level of quality. Samuel

Re: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 8 release

2016-11-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Marco d'Itri, on Sun 13 Nov 2016 12:04:07 +0100, wrote: > On Nov 13, Helmut Grohne wrote: > > Thus I think that debootstrap should revert to unmerged /usr until > > dpkg-shlibdeps has been fixed. Fixing is non-trivial and likely requires > > an archive rebuild on several architectures. > Not reall

Re: More 5 november in the release schedule

2016-11-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Marc Haber, on Sun 13 Nov 2016 11:56:09 +0100, wrote: > On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 11:46:36 +0100, Samuel Thibault > wrote: > >Marc Haber, on Sun 13 Nov 2016 11:37:54 +0100, wrote: > >> On Sun, 06 Nov 2016 11:51:36 +, Steve McIntyre > >> wrote: > >> >Releas

Re: More 5 november in the release schedule

2016-11-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Marc Haber, on Sun 13 Nov 2016 11:55:13 +0100, wrote: > On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 11:45:23 +0100, Samuel Thibault > wrote: > >Marc Haber, on Sun 13 Nov 2016 11:37:13 +0100, wrote: > >> On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 13:06:33 +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > >> >I'm even

Re: More 5 november in the release schedule

2016-11-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Marc Haber, on Sun 13 Nov 2016 11:37:54 +0100, wrote: > On Sun, 06 Nov 2016 11:51:36 +, Steve McIntyre > wrote: > >Releasing Debian is work for all of us, not just the Release Team... > > So you are actually suggesting that people who are neither on the > release team nor maintaining a key pa

Re: More 5 november in the release schedule

2016-11-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Marc Haber, on Sun 13 Nov 2016 11:37:13 +0100, wrote: > On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 13:06:33 +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > >I'm even willing to justify my opinion: Keeping testing in a state > >that can be released seems to be the only way in which we can make a > >release in a reasonable time frame. We'v

Re: More 5 november in the release schedule

2016-11-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Marc Haber, on Sun 13 Nov 2016 11:30:18 +0100, wrote: > On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 14:01:13 +, Ian Jackson > wrote: > >If it turns out to be a more common problem and there are many > >packages affected, then this would mean delays to the stretch release, > >indeed. > > One of my issues is that this

Re: Build a sort-of-systemd-dependent package on kfreebsd

2016-11-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Thibaut Paumard, on Tue 08 Nov 2016 15:50:01 +0100, wrote: > Le 08/11/2016 à 15:13, Alec Leamas a écrit : > > Trying to understand the debhelper, dh-exec and dh-exec-subst > > manpages. However, I just don't get it. All these tools seems to > > be about changing the actual location of certain fil

Re: Build a sort-of-systemd-dependent package on kfreebsd

2016-11-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jens Reyer, on Tue 08 Nov 2016 15:31:00 +0100, wrote: > The dh-exec-filter manpage should help. I assume you want something like: > > debian/install: > #! /usr/bin/dh-exec > [!kfreebsd-any] debian/some-linux-only-file /usr/lib/my-package For linuxish things, please use [linux-any] debian/some-li

Re: More 5 november in the release schedule

2016-11-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christoph Biedl, on Mon 07 Nov 2016 19:02:17 +0100, wrote: > If I understood some remarks in IRC correctly: Filing an RC bug after > hard freeze may lead to immediate and thus irrevocable removal from > stretch[citation needed]. The removal is not immediate, you have time to downgrade the severity

Re: unattended-upgrades by default?

2016-11-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Roland Mas, on Fri 04 Nov 2016 13:29:02 +0100, wrote: > Guido Günther, 2016-11-04 12:26:51 +0100 : > > Please do. We should also enable needsrestart, whatmaps, checkrestart > > or similar to restart affected services after these upgrades otherwise > > the e.g. openssl update might go without effect

Re: Bug#835533: dasher: Please package Dasher 5.0 beta

2016-10-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
:29PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Maybe we should > > put in the ftp-master process that an RM request for any kind of > > accessibility-related package shouldn't be processed without an ACK from > > the debian-accessibility team? > > May be creating metapac

Re: Bug#835533: dasher: Please package Dasher 5.0 beta

2016-10-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Paul Wise, on Thu 06 Oct 2016 11:40:12 +0800, wrote: > On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 12:53 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > So if some of these packages is falling down, the debian-accessibility > > team *has* to be notified so we can find a solution. Maybe we should > > put in the ft

Re: Bug#835533: dasher: Please package Dasher 5.0 beta

2016-10-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Michael Biebl, on Wed 05 Oct 2016 14:54:19 +0200, wrote: > I'm not sure why you think there was fighing going on. > Mario was/is part of the pkg-gnome team and had SVN commit rights for a > very long time. > > It's not like he couldn't have just uploaded the package instead. So I > think i

Re: package builds crashing under fakeroot

2016-10-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jakub Wilk, on Tue 04 Oct 2016 10:55:36 +0200, wrote: > * Svante Signell , 2016-10-04, 08:54: > >From memory I think this is due to usage of the default rule: > >%: > >dh $@ > > > >with no override_dh_auto_build and override_dh_auto_test rules. By default > >the tests are run under fakeroot

Various ITPs for Mbrola voices

2016-09-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mbrola ITP: mbrola-mx1 -- Mexican Spanish male voice for Mbrola Samuel Subject: ITP: mbrola-br2 -- Brazilian Portuguese female voice for Mbrola Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2016-09-11 Severity: wishlist Owner: Samuel Thibault * Package name: mbrola-br2 Version : 2.021

Bug#837370: ITP: pcaudiolib -- C API to different audio devices

2016-09-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Samuel Thibault * Package name: pcaudiolib Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Reece Dunn * URL : https://github.com/espeak-ng/pcaudiolib * License : GPL 3+ Programming Lang: C Description : C API to different audio

Bug#836800: ITP: espeak-ng -- Multi-lingual software speech synthesizer

2016-09-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Samuel Thibault * Package name: espeak-ng Version : git snapshot Upstream Author : Reece H. Dunn * URL : https://github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : Multi-lingual

Re: Is missing SysV-init support a bug?

2016-09-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Adam Borowski, on Fri 02 Sep 2016 05:30:10 +0200, wrote: > Let's see, printf 'a\e[3mb\e[0mc\n' (b should be italic, a and c should not) Err, here: * aterm: - * Eterm: - * gnome-terminal: + * konsole: + * lxterm: + * lxterminal: - * mlterm: + * pterm: - * roxterm: + * rxvt-unicode: + * screen: tra

Re: Debian Hurd installer fixed since 2014?

2016-09-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jonathan de Boyne Pollard, on Thu 01 Sep 2016 09:23:07 +0100, wrote: > The Debian installer dutifully hung partway through the install, > saying that it was configuring exim. How much memory did the box have? We do know there are still some issues with swapping. Installation does push a lot of d

Re: libsystemd

2016-09-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard, on Thu 01 Sep 2016 08:47:44 +0100, wrote: > >You have forgotten about the existence of Debian Hurd. (-: > > > >* https://jdebp.eu./FGA/hurd-daemons.html#proc > > >The Hurd precisely tries to expose things as files. > > > Not in this case. I pointed earlier to t

Re: libsystemd

2016-08-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jonathan de Boyne Pollard, on Tue 30 Aug 2016 08:55:26 +0100, wrote: > >Thanks history, we have pid files, not `libpid' to talk to `pidd'. > > > You have forgotten about the existence of Debian Hurd. (-: The Hurd precisely tries to expose things as files. Samuel

Re: Status of kbd console-data and console-setup

2016-08-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Felipe Sateler, on Fri 12 Aug 2016 17:44:20 +, wrote: > localed by itself does little more than updating /etc/default/keyboard et > al[1] (it can set XKBMODEL, XKBVARIANT, XKBLAYOUT and XKBOPTIONS in that > file). It then tries to invoke systemd-vconsole, which is the service > that

Re: Status of kbd console-data and console-setup

2016-08-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Cesare Leonardi, on Sun 31 Jul 2016 16:22:54 +0200, wrote: > Console-data package was last updated in 2014, was reported obsolete for a > long time and user reporting bug to it are sollecited to migrate to > console-setup. For example see the preistoric bug #626680 (still valid). And > upst

Re: use long keyid-format in gpg.conf (Re: Key collisions in the wild

2016-08-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Ian Jackson, on Wed 10 Aug 2016 19:06:28 +0100, wrote: > Samuel Thibault writes ("Re: use long keyid-format in gpg.conf (Re: Key > collisions in the wild"): > > Ian Jackson, on Wed 10 Aug 2016 18:56:52 +0100, wrote: > > > Did you miss that paragraph the first t

Re: use long keyid-format in gpg.conf (Re: Key collisions in the wild

2016-08-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Ian Jackson, on Wed 10 Aug 2016 18:56:52 +0100, wrote: > Samuel Thibault writes ("Re: use long keyid-format in gpg.conf (Re: Key > collisions in the wild"): > > Ian Jackson, on Wed 10 Aug 2016 13:45:05 +0100, wrote: > > > I don't know what side of this (

Re: use long keyid-format in gpg.conf (Re: Key collisions in the wild

2016-08-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian Seiler, on Wed 10 Aug 2016 15:37:43 +0200, wrote: > On 08/10/2016 03:19 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Ian Jackson, on Wed 10 Aug 2016 13:45:05 +0100, wrote: > >> Adam D. Barratt writes ("Re: use long keyid-format in gpg.conf (Re: Key > >> collisions i

Re: use long keyid-format in gpg.conf (Re: Key collisions in the wild

2016-08-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Ian Jackson, on Wed 10 Aug 2016 13:45:05 +0100, wrote: > Adam D. Barratt writes ("Re: use long keyid-format in gpg.conf (Re: Key > collisions in the wild"): > > [explanation] > > Thanks. > > I don't know what side of this (one) line such a proposed gpg change > falls. I still think it's unsatis

Re: use long keyid-format in gpg.conf (Re: Key collisions in the wild

2016-08-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, on Wed 10 Aug 2016 12:46:07 +0200, wrote: > Holger Levsen, on Wed 10 Aug 2016 10:26:09 +, wrote: > > I'm somewhat surprised by this mail… or rather by you appearantly > > knowing about the issue but still you seem to not have acted as advised, > > s

Re: use long keyid-format in gpg.conf (Re: Key collisions in the wild

2016-08-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Holger Levsen, on Wed 10 Aug 2016 10:26:09 +, wrote: > I'm somewhat surprised by this mail… or rather by you appearantly > knowing about the issue but still you seem to not have acted as advised, > so let me repeat: everybody, please put "keyid-format long" into your > ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf! Well,

Re: Key collisions in the wild

2016-08-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Reichel, on Wed 10 Aug 2016 07:14:09 +0200, wrote: > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:47:43AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > As a late follow-up of the gpg key collision thread from debian-private > > (but posted on debian-devel, there is nothing private here, I prefer

Re: Key collisions in the wild

2016-08-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, on Wed 10 Aug 2016 00:47:43 +0200, wrote: > € gpg --search-key samuel.thiba...@gnu.org > ... > (1) Samuel Thibault > 4096 bit RSA key 7D069EE6, created: 2014-06-16 And it has 55 signatures from 55 colliding keys... Samuel

Re: Key collisions in the wild

2016-08-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, As a late follow-up of the gpg key collision thread from debian-private (but posted on debian-devel, there is nothing private here, I prefer to see this information publicized actually): € gpg --search-key samuel.thiba...@gnu.org ... (1) Samuel Thibault 4096 bit RSA key 7D069EE6, created

Re: Bug#783876: Seriously, these binaries should be stripped by default

2016-04-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Matthias Klose, on Fri 22 Apr 2016 00:47:09 +0200, wrote: > >With separate -unstripped (or whatever) packages, they could be > >installed by admin choice in those situations. > > well, admin choice is usually not the default. So this would miss the buildds. Making the buildds install extra packag

Re: Time for a .changes file format 2.0?

2016-04-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Guillem Jover, on Mon 18 Apr 2016 10:50:54 +0200, wrote: > Samuel Thibault recently reported in #818618 that the Binary field in > the .changes files does not get filtered to only include the binary > packages that are being uploaded, Well, yes, but the original issue is only tha

Bug#816247: general: hardening distro is an afterthought

2016-02-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Richard Jasmin, on Sun 28 Feb 2016 22:42:00 -0600, wrote: >(With hardened by default config for source builds) Hardening does break some packages, you can't just go away with forcing it. Samuel

Re: New requirements for ITPs? (was: Bug#815675: ITP: ftpbackup -- Script to backups your data from a Debian system to a ftp space)

2016-02-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Lars Wirzenius, on Wed 24 Feb 2016 16:43:21 +0200, wrote: > Do we want to add requirements > on quality (however we want to define that), Well, to be in Debian you need a minimum quality, yes. > duplication of features with existing software, or other things? I've seen it often discussed for ITP

Re: debian/control: enhanced version dependencies?

2016-01-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Felipe Sateler, on Fri 15 Jan 2016 12:33:37 +, wrote: > On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 09:35:31 +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > For running a local set of meta packages I would like to express package > > dependencies depending upon other packages installed, e.g. > > > > Package: xy

Re: debian/control: enhanced version dependencies?

2016-01-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Andrey Rahmatullin, on Thu 14 Jan 2016 14:11:36 +0500, wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 09:35:31AM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > Package: xyz > > Version: all > > Depends: ${misc:Depends} > > , dbus (systemd >= 215) Perhaps something like this dbus | systemd (<< 215) | !systemd ? Samuel

Re: MBF Announcement: Transition libpng12 -> libpng16

2016-01-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Rene Engelhard, on Tue 05 Jan 2016 22:15:31 +0100, wrote: > On Tue, Jan 05, 2016 at 09:58:03PM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 05, 2016 at 09:50:58PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Rene Engelhard, on Tue 05 Jan 2016 21:43:33 +0100, wrote: > > > > So

Re: MBF Announcement: Transition libpng12 -> libpng16

2016-01-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Rene Engelhard, on Tue 05 Jan 2016 21:43:33 +0100, wrote: > So that it will immediately fail when something eventually picks > up the experimental packages (as experimental buildds right now do in some > situations)? ? No, experimental buildds only pick from experimental what is not available from

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Eduard Bloch, on Sun 03 Jan 2016 14:06:22 +0100, wrote: > OTOH UsrMerge breaks some habits, i.e. going to /share/doc/foo feels UsrMerge proposed by Marco is the converse. It is *not* putting a /usr -> / symlink. Samuel

Bug#809370: ITP: lios -- Linux intelligent OCR solution

2015-12-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Samuel Thibault * Package name: lios Version : 2.0 Upstream Author : Nalin.x.Linux * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/lios * License : GPL-3 Programming Lang: Python Description : Linux intelligent OCR

Re: Can I suppress automatic creation of -dbgsym packages?

2015-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Dirk Eddelbuettel, on Sun 20 Dec 2015 13:43:38 -0600, wrote: > That may not be such a good idea for the several hundred r-cran-* packages. Why not? Samuel

Bug#807615: ITP: printer-driver-indexbraille -- CUPS printing to Index Braille printers

2015-12-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Samuel Thibault * Package name: printer-driver-indexbraille Version : 1.2.2 Upstream Author : Index Braille AB. * URL : http://indexbraille.com * License : GPLv2 Programming Lang: C, shell Description : CUPS

Re: Fwd: [Patch] Shall we update CUDA to 7.0.28 ? (#783770)

2015-11-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, My few cents about it: lumin, on Fri 13 Nov 2015 13:55:52 +, wrote: > Debian's CUDA/experimental is QUITE OUT OF DATE so that > it fails to work with GCC-5. It's cuda 6.5. Cuda 7.0 is not *that* new. AIUI, it was officially released by Nvidia in March 2015. Yes, the push to gcc-5 p

Re: [HEADSUP] dropping xconsole support from default rsyslog configuration

2015-11-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Marco d'Itri, on Mon 09 Nov 2015 03:38:40 +0100, wrote: > I really doubt that many people still use it anymore. I do use it. Not mentioning the change in NEWS is fine however, people using it probably know where to look at when it stops working. Samuel

Re: Defaulting to i686 for the Debian i386 architecture

2015-10-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Matthias Klose, le Thu 01 Oct 2015 19:15:54 +0200, a écrit : > question to the Hurd and KFreeBSD maintainers ... change that on these > platforms too? I don't see a reason not to. i686 libc works fine on hurd-i386 at least. I haven't tried on kfreebsd. Samuel

Re: is the whole unstable still broken by gcc-5?

2015-09-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Svante Signell, le Sun 13 Sep 2015 11:33:31 +0200, a écrit : > > That's what Sid/Unstable is used for. You'll have to live with that :) > > This transition was IMHO a monster compared to the usual transitions > > and it might happen again. Se at the end we probably should discuss, > > what to impro

Re: Security concerns with minified javascript code

2015-09-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Vincent Bernat, le Wed 02 Sep 2015 11:20:32 +0200, a écrit : > ❦ 2 septembre 2015 10:18 +0200, Samuel Thibault  : > >> Or maybe you propose to just ship the whole "node_modules" directory > >> (which has all the dependencies) with jQuery sources? > > &g

Re: Security concerns with minified javascript code

2015-09-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Vincent Bernat, le Wed 02 Sep 2015 10:10:55 +0200, a écrit : > ❦ 2 septembre 2015 09:54 +0200, Samuel Thibault  : > > >> If you talk about Grunt, > > > > That's what I'm talking about. > > > >> Grunt comes with a lot of plugins (and does almos

Re: Security concerns with minified javascript code

2015-09-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Vincent Bernat, le Wed 02 Sep 2015 09:47:23 +0200, a écrit : > If you talk about Grunt, That's what I'm talking about. > Grunt comes with a lot of plugins (and does almost nothing without > those) and each upstream will require different plugins with different > versions (Grunt plugin versions ar

Re: Security concerns with minified javascript code

2015-09-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Russ Allbery, le Tue 01 Sep 2015 18:05:09 -0700, a écrit : > Healthy language communities have their own metadata systems and > standardized build systems that allow Debian packaging to be nearly > automated, *provided* that we use the same unit of distribution as > upstream. I understand that usi

Re: Pacakging small package (was Re: Security concerns with minified javascript code)

2015-08-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Bastien ROUCARIÈS, le Sun 30 Aug 2015 23:15:39 +0200, a écrit : > What could be done in order to improve the whole system performance in order > to package really small package ? Is it not possible to group them like X.org does? Samuel

Re: Summary of the DebConf firmware discussion

2015-08-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Paul Wise, le Sat 29 Aug 2015 13:15:21 +0200, a écrit : > > But: what's a good level of split? > > One per use-case probably? I can think of at least these possibilities > based on a couple of my old blog posts: > > non-free/docs > non-free/firmware > non-free/drivers > non-free/web > non-free/co

Re: Security concerns with minified javascript code

2015-08-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Neil Williams, le Fri 28 Aug 2015 10:32:52 +0100, a écrit : > On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 10:45:16 +0200 > Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Vincent Bernat, le Fri 28 Aug 2015 10:06:17 +0200, a écrit : > > > Maybe it can be trimmed a bit more, but that's still 239 unique >

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