Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-06 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 13:03 +, Colin Watson wrote: On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 06:59:49PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: dpkg --add-architecture i386 apt-get update The installer doesn't AFAIK provide even the option to do this. (The i386/amd64 installer images might at least be

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 06:59:49PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: dpkg --add-architecture i386 apt-get update The installer doesn't AFAIK provide even the option to do this. (The i386/amd64 installer images might at least be usable as multiarch APT sources though.) So this is a

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2013-01-03 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: reassign -1 general Bug #697270 [kernel-image] PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64 Warning: Unknown package 'kernel-image' Bug reassigned from package 'kernel-image' to 'general'. No longer marked as found in versions 3.2.0. Ignoring request to alter fixed

Re: Processed: Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Gergely, if you take the effort to reassign to general, why dont you lower the severity as well? And, if you explain how this is a user error, why dont you close it straight away? cheers, Holger -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Processed: Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Gergelzz :-) On Donnerstag, 3. Januar 2013, Gergelzz Nagy wrote: Because I haven't slept this year yet, and I forgot to change the Cc: to -done@, and there's been about 5 minutes between the Control: header and the rest of my mail, during which I completely forgot about the

Re: Processed: Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Gergelzzzzzzzzzz Nagy
Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org writes: Hi Gergely, if you take the effort to reassign to general, why dont you lower the severity as well? And, if you explain how this is a user error, why dont you close it straight away? Because I haven't slept this year yet, and I forgot to

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Alexey Eromenko
User error? Huh ? No ! This is a Debian Bug ! Debian clearly says: File does not exist, while in fact it DOES EXIST. This is a 100% proof of Debian bug. -- -Alexey Eromenko Technologov -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Alexey Eromenko
Please keep in mind, that I have wasted 4 hours of my personal time on this Debian bug, and do you think this is reasonable ? -- -Alexey Eromenko Technologov -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 01/04/2013 01:02 AM, Alexey Eromenko wrote: Please keep in mind, that I have wasted 4 hours of my personal time on this Debian bug, and do you think this is reasonable ? It all depends. How did you even install Firefox 32 bits? We don't have such a package in Debian. It's rebranded as

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Alexey Eromenko
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: on a 64 bits arch Debian, when really, you'd better just do: apt-get install iceweasel and use your newly installed browser in 64 bits mode... Not, because my job requires the latest FireFox (latest-and-greatest). And the

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Alexey Eromenko al4...@gmail.com writes: User error? Huh ? No ! This is a Debian Bug ! Debian clearly says: File does not exist, while in fact it DOES EXIST. This is a 100% proof of Debian bug. That's the error message that you get when the dynamic loader for a binary doesn't exist. I

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Alexey Eromenko
But having 32-bit LSB compliance will help people a _LOT_. -- -Alexey Eromenko Technologov -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Aron Xu
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:31 AM, Alexey Eromenko al4...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: on a 64 bits arch Debian, when really, you'd better just do: apt-get install iceweasel and use your newly installed browser in 64 bits mode... Not,

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 01/04/2013 01:31 AM, Alexey Eromenko wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: on a 64 bits arch Debian, when really, you'd better just do: apt-get install iceweasel and use your newly installed browser in 64 bits mode... Not, because my job requires the

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Gergely Nagy
Alexey Eromenko al4...@gmail.com writes: User error? Huh ? It is, I'm afraid. No ! This is a Debian Bug ! No, it is not. Debian clearly says: File does not exist, while in fact it DOES EXIST. It does not. However, the file the message is referring to is not the file you think it refers

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Alexey Eromenko al4...@gmail.com writes: But having 32-bit LSB compliance will help people a _LOT_. Debian provides LSB compliance via the lsb set of packages. Not everyone wants to have all LSB packages installed or particularly cares about LSB compliance. If you do: aptitude install

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Aron Xu
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Alexey Eromenko al4...@gmail.com wrote: But having 32-bit LSB compliance will help people a _LOT_. This does not mean you can't run 32bit application under a 64bit Debian installation, it's because the support is not added into default installation as the feature

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le jeudi, 3 janvier 2013 18.44:59, Alexey Eromenko a écrit : But having 32-bit LSB compliance will help people a _LOT_. By the way: * Debian is not LSB-certified * ... but the lsb-* packages try to provide a working implementation. No work has been attempted to provide Multi-Arch lsb packages

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Alexey Eromenko
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud o...@debian.org wrote: release and lsb-base being Architecture: foreign). Patches are welcome to make Wheezy+1 more suitable to your needs. How about changing it from a kernel bug to tasksel feature ? I recommend: tasksel to install 32-bit

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Timo Weingärtner
clone 697270 -1 retitle -1 misleading error message when ELF interpreter does not exist reassign -1 bash severity -1 normal merge -1 609882 retitle 697270 i386 multiarch not enabled and ia32-libs not installed by default on amd64 severity 697270 minor tags 697270 +wontfix thanks Hi Alexey,

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2013-01-03 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: clone 697270 -1 Bug #697270 {Done: Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org} [general] PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64 Bug 697270 cloned as bug 697299 retitle -1 misleading error message when ELF interpreter does not exist Bug #697299 {Done

Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Timo Weingärtner t...@tiwe.de writes: 2013-01-03 um 18:32:28 schrieb Russ Allbery: Alexey Eromenko al4...@gmail.com writes: User error? Huh ? No ! This is a Debian Bug ! Debian clearly says: File does not exist, while in fact it DOES EXIST. This is a 100% proof of Debian bug. I guess it

Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Timo Weingärtner
Hallo Russ Allbery, 2013-01-03 um 19:26:46 schriebst Du: Timo Weingärtner t...@tiwe.de writes: 2013-01-03 um 18:32:28 schrieb Russ Allbery: Alexey Eromenko al4...@gmail.com writes: User error? Huh ? No ! This is a Debian Bug ! Debian clearly says: File does not exist, while in fact

Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Timo Weingärtner t...@tiwe.de writes: Hallo Russ Allbery, I think that's asking quite a lot of bash. Wouldn't it have to open the binary and parse the ELF headers, extracting the INTERP header, in order to verify that? Does it really make sense to encode understanding of ELF binary layout

Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 10:26:46AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: That's the error message that you get when the dynamic loader for a binary doesn't exist. I think that's been the case for as long as Linux has existed. That's already reported as bug #609882. I think that's asking quite a

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 01/03/2013 02:16 PM, Alexey Eromenko wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud o...@debian.org wrote: release and lsb-base being Architecture: foreign). Patches are welcome to make Wheezy+1 more suitable to your needs. How about changing it from a kernel bug to

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 02:01:26AM +0800, Aron Xu wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Alexey Eromenko al4...@gmail.com wrote: But having 32-bit LSB compliance will help people a _LOT_. This does not mean you can't run 32bit application under a 64bit Debian installation, it's because

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 03 Jan 2013, Alexey Eromenko wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud o...@debian.org wrote: release and lsb-base being Architecture: foreign). Patches are welcome to make Wheezy+1 more suitable to your needs. How about changing it from a kernel bug to

Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 10:26:46AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Debian clearly says: File does not exist, while in fact it DOES EXIST. This is a 100% proof of Debian bug. I guess it is bash telling you that. That's the error message that you get when the dynamic loader for a binary

Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 06:59:02PM +0100, Gergely Nagy wrote: You installed a 32-bit application on a 64-bit system. That will only work if you also install the 32-bit supporting libraries, including the dynamic linker. This is not a bug in Debian. And no, installing 32-bit libraries by

Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 10:35:43PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 06:59:02PM +0100, Gergely Nagy wrote: You installed a 32-bit application on a 64-bit system. That will only work if you also install the 32-bit supporting libraries, including the dynamic linker. This is

Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 12:43:56AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: The problem to be solved is that ISVs provide binaries for Linux i386 and our users want to run them on amd64. LSB, x32 and ARM are completely irrelevant - the important thing is to make it easy to install whatever libraries those