Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-29 Thread Davide Truffa
Francesco wrote: Io sono piu' dell'idea di integrare i documenti esistenti e ottenere il consenso sul merge di informazioni non ancora presenti da altre fonti. Nessun meta manuale, l'idea è proprio quella che hai appena descritto: non reinventare la ruota e quindi integrare il più possibile

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-25 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 07:26:11AM +0200, Luca Brivio wrote: One of the biggest problems we experienced is that the existing documentation, albeit useful and rather rich, is not coherent. I think we need something more homogeneous, backed by an overall design. This would not be

Debian Packaging Handbook project mailing list

2007-08-25 Thread Luca Brivio
Hi all, A few days ago Davide Truffa and I opened a mailing list[1] on Alioth, which will be used for the purpose of coordinating the writing and proofreading (hence Cc:ing the l10n-english list) of the packaging handbook[2]. I'd invite anybody which may be interested to subscribe. I'm also

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-19 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Aug 19, 2007, at 2:24 AM, Luca Brivio wrote: Alle mer 15 agosto 2007, martin f krafft ha scritto: also sprach Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007.08.10.1746 +0200]: Martin Krafft and I jointly gave a talk at Debconf about use of distributed version control systems for

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-18 Thread Luca Brivio
Alle mer 15 agosto 2007, martin f krafft ha scritto: also sprach Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007.08.10.1746 +0200]: Martin Krafft and I jointly gave a talk at Debconf about use of distributed version control systems for Debian packages (this is the quilt/dpatch/other

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-18 Thread Ben Finney
Luca Brivio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW, does anybody have any concerns about the licensing? Yes. Please choose a license that is uncontroversially free within Debian. This excludes the GNU FDL and the Creative Commons licenses. My recommendation would be either the GNU GPL or the Expat

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007.08.10.1746 +0200]: Martin Krafft and I jointly gave a talk at Debconf about use of distributed version control systems for Debian packages (this is the quilt/dpatch/other dimension); I would be happy to help documenting that

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:50:53 +0200, Luca Brivio [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Indeed, it looks at me that one of most exciting and challenging goals would be to outline (and hence describe in a detailed manner) all of the different existing styles and compare them after several points of view, so

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-08 Thread Ben Finney
Luca Brivio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One of the biggest problems we experienced is that the existing documentation, albeit useful and rather rich, is not coherent. I think we need something more homogeneous, backed by an overall design. This would not be yet-another-document to read, instead

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-08 Thread François Févotte
Hello, On 8/8/07, Davide Truffa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we are a few wannabe-DD who think it would be really helpful to have a comprehensive packaging manual covering just all technical topics about making and maintaining Debian packages. On 8/8/07, Luca Brivio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 05:57:15AM +0200, Davide Truffa wrote: Hi all, Tutto molto bello, mi piace l'iniziativa!, ... ma perché il cross post su d-d-italian? :-) -- Stefano Zacchiroli -*- PhD in Computer Science ... now what? [EMAIL PROTECTED],debian.org,bononia.it} -%-

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-08 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, Davide Truffa wrote: Hi all, we are a few wannabe-DD who think it would be really helpful to have a comprehensive packaging manual covering just all technical topics about making and maintaining Debian packages. Since the beginning of July, I have started writing a book

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-08 Thread Lukasz Szybalski
On 8/8/07, François Févotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, On 8/8/07, Davide Truffa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we are a few wannabe-DD who think it would be really helpful to have a comprehensive packaging manual covering just all technical topics about making and maintaining Debian

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 07:26:11 +0200, Luca Brivio [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Alle mer 8 agosto 2007, Ben Finney ha scritto: Thanks for taking the initiative to do this work. Thanks for your attention. At this moment, we have the New Maintainers' Guide and a bunch of other more or less good

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-08 Thread François Févotte
Hello, On 8/8/07, Davide Truffa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we are a few wannabe-DD who think it would be really helpful to have a comprehensive packaging manual covering just all technical topics about making and maintaining Debian packages. On 8/8/07, Luca Brivio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-08 Thread Luca Capello
Hello! On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 07:27:14 +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: One step might be to convert the New Maintainer's Guide into the wiki format, then importing any missing information from the Debian Developers' Reference to it. Putting it all in the wiki is good, so that it is more easily

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-08 Thread Luca Brivio
Alle mer 8 agosto 2007, Manoj Srivastava ha scritto: The goal is from my POV to produce something much more complete and with a different scope: while the NMG etc. are (roughly) tutorials targeted to people who want to make their first packages etc., the DPH would be a rich manual for all

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-08 Thread Luca Brivio
Alle mer 8 agosto 2007, Luca Capello ha scritto: Hello! On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 07:27:14 +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: One step might be to convert the New Maintainer's Guide into the wiki format, then importing any missing information from the Debian Developers' Reference to it. Putting it

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-08 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, Davide Truffa wrote: Hi all, we are a few wannabe-DD who think it would be really helpful to have a comprehensive packaging manual covering just all technical topics about making and maintaining Debian packages. Since the beginning of July, I have started writing a book

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-08 Thread Luca Brivio
Alle mer 8 agosto 2007, Lars Wirzenius ha scritto: On ke, 2007-08-08 at 14:12 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: Without that structure, and a strict policy of being *only* an index to existing documents, I don't see how this project would avoid creating yet-another-document to read, compounding the

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-08 Thread Davide Truffa
François Févotte ha scritto: Thanks for the initiative. I entirely agree with you: I also use to spend some time switching back and forth between the different available documents, and I would definitely use such a unified, comprehensive packaging manual. We think this is exactly the problem

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-08 Thread Lukasz Szybalski
On 8/8/07, François Févotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, On 8/8/07, Davide Truffa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we are a few wannabe-DD who think it would be really helpful to have a comprehensive packaging manual covering just all technical topics about making and maintaining Debian

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-08 Thread Davide Truffa
Nico Golde ha scritto: I don't want to run down this idea but wouldn't the result be nearly the same as the new maintainers guide + developers reference + things you think are missing from the current documentation but can be added? Our intention is to create an exhaustive documentation

Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-07 Thread Davide Truffa
Hi all, we are a few wannabe-DD who think it would be really helpful to have a comprehensive packaging manual covering just all technical topics about making and maintaining Debian packages. At this moment, we have the New Maintainers' Guide and a bunch of other more or less good tutorials,

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-07 Thread Ben Finney
Davide Truffa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: we are a few wannabe-DD who think it would be really helpful to have a comprehensive packaging manual covering just all technical topics about making and maintaining Debian packages. Thanks for taking the initiative to do this work. At this moment, we

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-07 Thread Luca Brivio
Alle mer 8 agosto 2007, Ben Finney ha scritto: Thanks for taking the initiative to do this work. Thanks for your attention. At this moment, we have the New Maintainers' Guide and a bunch of other more or less good tutorials, anyway when one wants to make an even simple package she/he

Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-07 Thread Davide Truffa
Hi all, we are a few wannabe-DD who think it would be really helpful to have a comprehensive packaging manual covering just all technical topics about making and maintaining Debian packages. At this moment, we have the New Maintainers' Guide and a bunch of other more or less good tutorials,

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-07 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Davide Truffa [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-08-08 06:00]: we are a few wannabe-DD who think it would be really helpful to have a comprehensive packaging manual covering just all technical topics about making and maintaining Debian packages. At this moment, we have the New Maintainers' Guide

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-07 Thread Ben Finney
Davide Truffa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: we are a few wannabe-DD who think it would be really helpful to have a comprehensive packaging manual covering just all technical topics about making and maintaining Debian packages. Thanks for taking the initiative to do this work. At this moment, we

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-07 Thread Luca Brivio
Alle mer 8 agosto 2007, Ben Finney ha scritto: Thanks for taking the initiative to do this work. Thanks for your attention. At this moment, we have the New Maintainers' Guide and a bunch of other more or less good tutorials, anyway when one wants to make an even simple package she/he

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-07 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ke, 2007-08-08 at 14:12 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: Without that structure, and a strict policy of being *only* an index to existing documents, I don't see how this project would avoid creating yet-another-document to read, compounding the problem you initially described. I think it makes

Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-07 Thread Ben Finney
Luca Brivio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One of the biggest problems we experienced is that the existing documentation, albeit useful and rather rich, is not coherent. I think we need something more homogeneous, backed by an overall design. This would not be yet-another-document to read, instead